Re: [Biofuel] Preheating heat source - BriteLyt? Petromax

2005-12-07 Thread Mike Weaver
IPA hard to get? I can't get rid of it! Joe Street wrote: I would say try kerosene or heating oil. Gasoline is too volatile and can create explosive atmospheres. Keep the IPA for titrations!! it is one of the more difficult items to get. Joe Mike Weaver wrote: I've done some initial

Re: [Biofuel] new subject line!!! was ... Overvaccinating Pets Kills and Injures

2005-12-07 Thread bob allen
good morning Todd Appal Energy wrote: Salute Bob, I don't think the way court proceeding are conducted is a good analogy for how science is done. I wasn't thinking of court precedings when I made mention of testimonials. If you'll note, a great number of medical studies rely in

Re: [Biofuel] new subject line!!! was ... Overvaccinating Pets Kills and Injures

2005-12-07 Thread bob allen
Marylynn Schmidt wrote: This needs to be highlighted If being vaccinated protected the individual it really wouldn't matter if others were vaccinated at all .. or even sick. vaccinations are a simple method by which society can lessen the injury to many, even though a few will be injured

Re: [Biofuel] concerning rabies vaccinations

2005-12-07 Thread Appal Energy
Mike, I'm aware of how you staged your point. But the crux of the matter is that you entreated the reader to a defrauding practice (the inflated treatment/billing by the medical profession) and then informed the readers that they were initially captivated by a story of fraud that was

Re: [Biofuel] new subject line!!! was ... Overvaccinating Pets Kills and Injures

2005-12-07 Thread Perry Jones
Actually, I thought the issue was science and what we know about vaccinations and its effects. Cost/benefit has nothing more to do with science than do testimonials. If you want to discuss cause and effect, kindly maintain the same standards throughout all your discussions. As Todd points

Re: [Biofuel] Bob Allen -Other Vaccines during WWI - THE 1918 INFLUENZA EPIDEMIC

2005-12-07 Thread David Miller
Zeke Yewdall wrote: Yet they are already being sued over drugs like vioxx. Are the threats of law suits any higher for vaccines than for other drugs released with insufficient testing? Vaccinations have their own special problems. For starters, they're all different and time-sensitive.

Re: [Biofuel] Seperating glycerine

2005-12-07 Thread Bioclaire Nederland
You just add the total amount of NaOH in both batches. Usualy you know how much NaOH you used, so it does not matter if that is in 1 batch of more. The total amount of NaOH counts. Indicator ? Well, the ideal situation would be if you could get it to pH neutral, which is 7 At chemistry

Re: [Biofuel] Marula (Scelerocarya birrea) was Jatropha Curcas

2005-12-07 Thread Chandan Haldar
The pulp of this fruit is also the main raw material for the Amarula Cream liquor (www.amarula.com) which is somewhat similar in taste to Bailey's Irish Cream (and priced about the same in retail), but with a distinct flavor of its own. Cheers. Chandan Duncan Mills wrote: Hi, I had an

Re: [Biofuel] Rabies Vaccine frequency. was: - name

2005-12-07 Thread Mike Weaver
Point to Bob! Paul S Cantrell wrote: Yeah Mike, but this is Bob's second go-round. 15 emails of fame! On 12/6/05, *Mike Weaver* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nuts. Bob Allen. And just a day or so it was all about me. Sigh. Andy Warhol was right.

Re: [Biofuel] Rabies Vaccine frequency. was: - name

2005-12-07 Thread Paul S Cantrell
Yeah Mike, but this is Bob's second go-round. 15 emails of fame!On 12/6/05, Mike Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Nuts.Bob Allen.And just a day or so it was all about me.Sigh.Andy Warhol was right. -MikeZeke Yewdall wrote:MaryQuit screwing up the JTF archives by putting irrelevant subject titleson

[Biofuel] Aarghhh!! - was Re: Bob Allen- Overvaccinating Pets Kills and Injures

2005-12-07 Thread Keith Addison
PLEASE don't do that to poor Bob, that's the second time it's happened to him. He's right: please stop- it adds nothing to the conversation and makes searches in the archives difficult. He's not the subject, it's a discussion *group* after all. It's surely doesn't accomplish anything, no

Re: [Biofuel] concerning rabies vaccinations

2005-12-07 Thread Mike Weaver
First off, your second sentance makes no sense - entreated the reader to a defrauding practice I'm not sure what you are trying to say. I never said that the articles or the vets were perpetuating fraud. I made the point that vet magazines often focus on ways to increase a practice's billing.

Re: [Biofuel] new subject line!!! was ... Overvaccinating Pets Kills and Injures

2005-12-07 Thread bob allen
Perry, you are mixing the issues. Careful observation with appropriate controls can tell one the cost, be it monetary, or in human suffering. Likewise the same procedure will afford information on the benefit- numbers of lives saved or money not spent on treating an infection. The societal

Re: [Biofuel] new subject line!!! was ... Overvaccinating Pets Kills and Injures

2005-12-07 Thread bob allen
ok so I need a little more rigor here, I got my costs and benefits reversed. Please substitute benefit/cost ratio below and it makes sense. bob allen wrote: Perry, you are mixing the issues. Careful observation with appropriate controls can tell one the cost, be it monetary, or in human

Re: [Biofuel] concerning rabies vaccinations

2005-12-07 Thread John Hayes
Mike Weaver wrote: With regards to making up the stories, yes, I said clearly that they we NOT TRUE in the original email. I never presented them as anything other than made up. There is a long history of using made up stories to illustrate a point. The Daily Show. The Onion. Modern

Re: [Biofuel] concerning rabies vaccinations

2005-12-07 Thread Mike Weaver
Hi John, You think you're pretty Swift, but I think your Modest Proposal is a fraud! I don't have two useless degrees in English for nothing! Ha - thanks for the laugh! Oops - I just noticed the attribution at the bottom. So much for showing off my erudition! -Mike John Hayes wrote:

Re: [Biofuel] concerning rabies vaccinations

2005-12-07 Thread Appal Energy
Mike, First off, your second sentance makes no sense - entreated the reader to a defrauding practice I'm not sure what you are trying to say. In the context of your mythical example, entreat is not so far out of reason. Your intent was to entice the reader to believe something false, even if

[Biofuel] vehicle tracking - pilot project now federally funded

2005-12-07 Thread Kirk McLoren
ZDNet.com is running a story about a runaway idea of a[0]tracking automobiles via GPS. Not to be confused with the Canadianproject geared towards [1]anti-speeding ideas, this one does in fact have the goal of tracking your vehicle. 'The U.S. Department of Transportation has been handing millions

Re: [Biofuel] concerning rabies vaccinations

2005-12-07 Thread Zeke Yewdall
Todd wrote: You don't think that padding a practice's income by pitching unnecessary services . isn't fraudulent or at least borderline so? Uh. Selling people unnecessary good and services is what the American economy is built on. I know we all want to change that, but right now its the

[Biofuel] Pump size

2005-12-07 Thread Joe Street
Hi all; I looked in the archives for info on pump size recommendations. I found a few messages relating to the clear water pump but what I am after is does anyone have a rule of thumb on pump throughput versus reactor size? I know variables such as reactor dimensions, tall vs short location

Re: [Biofuel] Pump size

2005-12-07 Thread Zeke Yewdall
What is the pressure that those gpm ratings are taken at? I suspect the 1/2 horse pump is rated at a much higher head than your 1/20th HP pump. Also, are you sure you are getting 5gpm through a 3/8 fitting? It seems a little high for that small of pipe. On 12/7/05, Joe Street [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[Biofuel] I'm not a veterinarian, but I play one on the Internet

2005-12-07 Thread Mike Weaver
Appalling Energy wrote: Mike, First off, your second sentance makes no sense - entreated the reader to a defrauding practice I'm not sure what you are trying to say. Nah, it was a contorted sentence. In the context of your mythical example, entreat is not so far out of reason.

Re: [Biofuel] new subject line!!! was ... Overvaccinating Pets Kills and Injures

2005-12-07 Thread Appal Energy
Bob, It's a speed bump at best, as are all vaccines. Some are more effective than others. We certainly haven't eradicated any maladies, despite many proclamations to the contrary over the decades. global small pox and almost global polio? Lest we forget, the claim was but a few years

[Biofuel] Public Citizen Press Release-REJECT BACKROOM DEAL SHIELDING DRUG INDUSTRY FROM LIABILITY

2005-12-07 Thread Marylynn Schmidt
strickly FYI - Mary Lynn Schmidt From: Sheri Nakken [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 07 Dec 2005 21:21:41 + Sheri-- This is interesting because of its rare comparison in the public sphere of the risks of the diseases vis-a-vis the risks of the vaccines,

Re: [Biofuel] I'm not a veterinarian, but I play one on the Internet was Concerning Rabies Vaccinations

2005-12-07 Thread Appal Energy
Young Master Weaver, Apparently my point has not eluded you. At the same time, you're experiencing some rather severe delusions if you think that cheap, smart alack responses, word play and picking grammatical snits in lieu of acknowledging your own errant understandings somehow make you

[Biofuel] Composting Glycerin by-product

2005-12-07 Thread Robert Carr
Hi all, I have decided to go the composting route to dispose of my glycerin by-product, but I want to combine this process with at least one other. I plan to dispose of garden waste, household compostibles and glycerin b-p together, but want to get another usable or saleable by product. Has

Re: [Biofuel] Pump size

2005-12-07 Thread ufdaland
I am thinking the clear pump is actually 330 GPM not GPH. Joe , I just bought a 3/4 HP submersable and the well driller says it will put out 10 GPM Jerry ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org

Re: [Biofuel] Composting Glycerin by-product

2005-12-07 Thread Lyle Estill
Bob,My understanding is that glycerin tends to suffocate worms--sticks to them and they "drown," making it a rotten feedstock for vermiculture.On Dec 7, 2005, at 4:01 PM, Robert Carr wrote:Hi all,I have decided to go the composting route to dispose of my glycerinby-product, but I want to combine

Re: [Biofuel] Composting Glycerin by-product

2005-12-07 Thread Appal Energy
Robert Carr, You'll have to clarify a bit more precisely what it is that you call glycerin by-product. If you're referring to what settles out of a transesterification (base) reaction, the first response would be to not try it, as you'd be poisoning your worms with methanol and soap. It might

Re: [Biofuel] vehicle tracking - pilot project now federally funded

2005-12-07 Thread Michael Redler
Thanks Kirk.I will distribute as widely as I can!"Dubya" still has some "political capital" (as he likes to say).All the work put into creating a culture of fear, leading todisturbing civil rights violations, makes me surprised that the "national security" card wasn't played.From the

[Biofuel] In French ?

2005-12-07 Thread Olivier Morf
I have some friends in the French side of Switzerland, Geneva, who are interested to try to make Biodiesel. They already have a car (a LandRover I beleive) running on SVO. But they do not speak (nor read) english. Do you know by any chance a good web site where they can find information on how