Re: [Biofuel] Soap formation

2006-12-29 Thread Ken Provost
On Dec 28, 2006, at 7:31 PM, Logan Vilas wrote: If you have a complete reaction to biodiesel will soap form from the biodiesel? I mean if you put lye and water into it would it form soap or would it be incapable of forming soap? Hmmm...no firsthand experience of that happening, but I

Re: [Biofuel] Water Powered Engine / Electrolysis

2006-12-29 Thread Jan Warnqvist
Hello Doug, Andrew et al. Hydrogen gas has a fine heat value, which makes it very interesting as an energy source. However, as Doug pointed out, it will be necessary to obtain the energy for the electrolysis from an outer source, why not from solar cells, to make the energy balance favourable.

Re: [Biofuel] Water Powered Engine / Electrolysis

2006-12-29 Thread Andrew Katerman
ok doug, thanks I think that makes a little more sense, I hadnt taken that into account. Andrew On 12/28/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What this amounts to is a really lousy, incompetent attempt at a perpetual motion machine. You have to put in the energy to separate the

Re: [Biofuel] Water Powered Engine / Electrolysis

2006-12-29 Thread Andrew Katerman
If that is the case, how do you explain a car that runs off of this? I have seen video, and from what I understand it runs off only the normal battery used to start the car and the hydrogen remove from sea water. I am not an expert on this at all, but it definately interests me. By the way, where

Re: [Biofuel] Water Powered Engine / Electrolysis

2006-12-29 Thread Bill Ellis
Hi Jan, Andrew and all If you go to solar, as doug pointed out, then you have lost that simple idea of just pumping water into the fuel tank and it turns to hydrogen/oxygen mix on demand. Now you would have to design and build a storage tank to store the hydrogen in when the sun was out.

Re: [Biofuel] Soap formation

2006-12-29 Thread JAMES PHELPS
This is, I believe, precisely why you do not want more lye than is required and why measurement of lye in proportion is fundamental. I find it is better to undershoot a reaction and add more to complete than end up with too much to start. Jim From: Logan Vilas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To:

Re: [Biofuel] Water Powered Engine / Electrolysis

2006-12-29 Thread Darryl McMahon
If you are talking about the water car - it can't work without breaking the 1st and 2nd laws of thermodynamics. Given the vague reference to gas/water hybrid, I'm not clear what they're talking about. Please take careful note of the caveats on the referenced Web site, e.g., So although we

Re: [Biofuel] The History of U.S.Torture

2006-12-29 Thread Keith Addison
It's past time to put a stop to the CIA and all its ugly sisters. They serve nobody's interests but their own, they're no good to anyone. It must surely be plain by now for all to see that they're totally useless at what they're supposed to be doing, and what they do instead is evil. They've

[Biofuel] Capitalism 3.0, Part 2

2006-12-29 Thread Keith Addison
From: Rachel's Democracy Health News #887, Dec. 28, 2006 http://www.precaution.org/lib/06/prn_capitalism_3.0_part2.061221.htm Capitalism 3.0, Part 2 By Peter Montague Peter Barnes describes our current economic system as capitalism 2.0 or surplus capitalism, because its main problem is

[Biofuel] was...Water Powered Engine / Electrolysis

2006-12-29 Thread AltEnergyNetwork
Hi, Oh the old running your car on hydrogen scam. Those plans have been floating around for a long time now. There is absolutely no way that you can run a car on this system, or any system for that matter that cracks hydrogen using the alternator and battery for power. There is no free

Re: [Biofuel] Water Powered Engine / Electrolysis

2006-12-29 Thread Kirk McLoren
The literature for industrial chemistry has process efficiency as part of the discussion. An important part if you are in business. As for video I can tell you and show you anything. You cant verify what is shown. Things that seem to be too good to be true usually are. If they had a

Re: [Biofuel] Water Powered Engine / Electrolysis

2006-12-29 Thread Kirk McLoren
Because you could go a minimum of 4 times further down the road if you put the electricity into a NiMH battery bank and drove the vehicle with an electric motor. Kirk Jan Warnqvist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Doug, Andrew et al. Hydrogen gas has a fine heat value, which makes it very

[Biofuel] Top scientists say man may need to dirty skies to shield against warming - CP Wire - 2006.11.16

2006-12-29 Thread Darryl McMahon
And now from the if your toe hurts, fix it by smashing your thumb with a hammer department ... Darryl = Byline: BY CHARLES J. HANLEY The ``shade'' would be a layer of pollution deliberately spewed into the atmosphere to help cool the planet. This over-the-top idea

Re: [Biofuel] Top scientists say man may need to dirty skies to shield against warming - CP Wire - 2006.11.16

2006-12-29 Thread Kirk McLoren
If all new and replaced roofs were white how much would that do? What if highways were white? What if the cars on them and so on. Kirk Darryl McMahon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And now from the if your toe hurts, fix it by smashing your thumb with a hammer department ... Darryl

Re: [Biofuel] Top scientists say man may need to dirty skies to shield against warming - CP Wire - 2006.11.16

2006-12-29 Thread dwoodard
There has been some experimentation with white roofs in the American south and they make a useful contribution to reducing the need for air conditioning. I found several internet sites which discussed this from a search a couple of years ago. Black asphalt roads are useful in clearing the ice

[Biofuel] The Winners of the Worst EU Lobby Awards 2006

2006-12-29 Thread frantz.desprez
•The Winners of the Worst EU Lobby Awards 2006• «The Worst EU Lobbying ExxonMobil For continuing to fund climate change sceptics 4080 votes (47%) more info mehr info plus d'info The Worst Privileged Access DG Internal Market For manipulating a consultation on EU patent policies 4936 votes (52%)

Re: [Biofuel] Water Powered Engine / Electrolysis

2006-12-29 Thread dwoodard
Hydrogen does indeed have an excellent heat value for its weight/mass, but not for its volume, and it is a gas down close to absolute zero. Hydrogen storage is a considerable problem. To my mind it remains to be seen whether hydrogen will ever be economic for the sole fuel of a vehicle. I think

Re: [Biofuel] Methanol Suppliers

2006-12-29 Thread CL IRV
Hey allhere is a good price! 1.80/gallon, here is the link http://www.methanex.com/products/methanolprice.html Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2006 22:41:05 -0500From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [Biofuel] Methanol SuppliersHi all,I need a better supply of methanol. My local supplier is

Re: [Biofuel] Top scientists say man may need to dirty skies to shield against warming - CP Wire - 2006.11.16

2006-12-29 Thread Frank Navarrete
The powers that be want the human race to be regurgitated from Earth as soon as possible. On 12/29/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There has been some experimentation with white roofs in the American south and they make a useful contribution to reducing the need for air

[Biofuel] Soap formation

2006-12-29 Thread Joe Neo
Hi guys, I just reprocessed a batch using 10% methanol and 5.79g of KOH per litre. After settling for 15 hrs, it turned out well, no more glycerine drops out, and the bididiesel was crystal clear.. So i took about 100ml of BD and added 100ml of fresh water for test wash. I shook it violently for

Re: [Biofuel] Capitalism 3.0, Part 2

2006-12-29 Thread Frank Navarrete
I think the common trust would fall subject to corruption like the rest of our well planned US government. The fore-fathers created preventative measures for our modern woes, which unfortunately have been used against their original intentions. The only thing that keeps a good government on