Re: Fwd: [Biofuel] give up meat?

2005-07-11 Thread capt3d
not just grains, but *whole* grains. beans and *whole* grains. and even then only certain combinations. not all beans will complete the amino acid set when combined with brown rice. of course, there are still more grains that those beans might be combined with, but i personally don't know

Re: Fwd: [Biofuel] give up meat?

2005-07-11 Thread Mike Weaver
have expected it to fit the bill based on what i know. regards, -chris Subject: Re: Fwd: [Biofuel] give up meat? From: bob allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2005 13:25:36 -0500 To: Biofuel

Re: [Biofuel] give up meat?

2005-07-11 Thread capt3d
yo, i think you're over-reacting a bit. and you're dragging in something which is barely relevant. no one's talking about severe or extreme malnutrition. i wouldn't expect to ever meet someone here who suffered from K because there are very few people here who don't eat meat. there are a

Re: Fwd: [Biofuel] give up meat?

2005-07-11 Thread bob allen
howdy chris, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: not just grains, but *whole* grains. beans and *whole* grains. We could actually take the discussion further to stipulate _properly processed_ whole grains. Corn meal should be processed with alkali (masa harina) as I recall to to make the thiamin

Re: [Biofuel] give up meat?

2005-07-11 Thread Keith Addison
Hi all I think vegetarians have to ask the same question of vegetables I asked about meat: Which particular cow is that? How was it raised, what did it eat? Or chicken or pig or sheep. A single cabbage can contain more pesticide residues than an entire cow - there's stuff in it that

Re: [Biofuel] give up meat?

2005-07-11 Thread capt3d
In a message dated 7/11/05 11:49:14 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: We could actually take the discussion further to stipulate _properly processed_ whole grains. Corn meal should be processed with alkali (masa harina) as I recall to to make the thiamin more absorbable, as one example.

Re: [Biofuel] give up meat?

2005-07-11 Thread Mike Weaver
My point was more that it's not rocket science to live as a Vegan. I did it for about a year and a half- nothing bad happened and I made no effort to combine anything. I was perfectly healthy, but I do remember being pretty hungry all the time. Now I'm mostly ovo (not much lacto - I'm

Re: Fwd: [Biofuel] give up meat?

2005-07-10 Thread bob allen
Howdy Ken et al Ken Dunn - CountyEarth.com wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: if you want to eliminate meat from your diet, then you need to find another way of getting the protein meat provides. Actually, getting enough protein on a vegan diet is not at all a problem. However, you do

Re: Fwd: [Biofuel] give up meat?

2005-07-10 Thread Ken Dunn - CountyEarth.com
bob allen wrote: Howdy Ken et al Ken Dunn - CountyEarth.com wrote: I think you mean beans and grains here. There are several traditional dishes where beans and grains are present. My late fathers favorite- beans and corn bread (he wasn't a vegetarian, but grew up dirt poor where meat was

Re: Fwd: [Biofuel] give up meat?

2005-07-10 Thread Ken Dunn - CountyEarth.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: even so, a few years ago i started cutting way back on my meat intake on the recommendation of my doctor. i enjoy it just as much as ever, but have found that i am now eating a much greater amount of vegetables, and considerably less fat intake. this without any

Re: [Biofuel] give up meat?

2005-07-10 Thread capt3d
hi, ken. sorry, did it sound like i was suggesting that non-meat/non-animal protein sources are hard to find? that wasn't my intention. they are, in fact and as you say, plentiful. though it is best to make sure you're getting the full complement of amino acids. this requires a bit of

Re: [Biofuel] give up meat?

2005-07-10 Thread Ken Dunn - CountyEarth.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi, ken. sorry, did it sound like i was suggesting that non-meat/non-animal protein sources are hard to find? that wasn't my intention. Well that is what I got out of it but. they are, in fact and as you say, plentiful. though it is best to make sure you're

Re: [Biofuel] give up meat?

2005-07-09 Thread Chris
ng labeled a spineless pot smoking hippie. It's an uphill battle for sure. Chris N. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2005 12:54 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] give up meat? "Google" on &qu

Re: [Biofuel] give up meat?

2005-07-09 Thread Keith Addison
to generations of small, dying creatures. Chris N. - Original Message - From: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mailto:Biofuel@sustainablelists.orgBiofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2005 12:54 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] give up meat? Google on vegetarian and you'll

Re[2]: [Biofuel] give up meat?

2005-07-09 Thread Gustl Steiner-Zehender
Hallo Folks, Saturday, 09 July, 2005, 03:44:18, you wrote: When people find out you don't eat meat they automatically assume it's because you can't stand to have cute cuddly cows die. Its always good to intellegently set them straight. If there's one thing i constantly have to fight

Re: Fwd: [Biofuel] give up meat?

2005-07-09 Thread Ken Dunn - CountyEarth.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: if you want to eliminate meat from your diet, then you need to find another way of getting the protein meat provides. Actually, getting enough protein on a vegan diet is not at all a problem. However, you do have to eat legumes and carbohydrates to get a

Fwd: [Biofuel] give up meat?

2005-07-08 Thread capt3d
ryan, if you want to eliminate meat from your diet, then you need to find another way of getting the protein meat provides. there aren't many 'veggies' (at least, as i understand the word) which contain much protein. the primary non-animal protein sources are cereals/grains, potatoes, beans

Re: [Biofuel] give up meat?

2005-07-08 Thread RobertCVA
"Google" on "vegetarian" and you'll find numerous sources of information on how to get anhealthful diet. I've been "vegetarian" for two and a half years now, although I have to admit I occasionally eat fish (sustainable types), milk (organic) -- although I usually use "soy" milk, eggs (free

[Biofuel] give up meat?

2005-07-06 Thread Ryan Hall
Ken, I am curious, what do you eat if you don't eat meat. I have been attempting to give up beef. Mostly because a good friend of mine runs a testing lab at a beef plant in Colorado. The things he tells me makes me not want beef anymore. Especially when he talks about mad cow. I don't

Re: [Biofuel] give up meat?

2005-07-06 Thread Chris
ut my life at this particular time doesn't allow me to cook for myself very often or be super choosey about what I eat. Chris N. - Original Message - From: Ryan Hall To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 2:49 PM Subject: [Biofuel] gi

Re: [Biofuel] give up meat?

2005-07-06 Thread robert luis rabello
Sorry to butt in on your question, but I've eaten a (mostly) vegetarian diet since about 1970. The key to avoiding protein deficiency is to eat grains in combination with legumes. (Brown rice and black beans are a personal favorite.) Eating a wide variety of foods is essential, especially

Re: [Biofuel] give up meat?

2005-07-06 Thread Ken Dunn - CountyEarth.com
Ryan, As I mentioned, I gave up meat and dairy because of environmental reasons - as mentioned before not because meat is bad but, because the primary method by which it is raised in the U.S. is bad. I don't have a single ethical issue with eating meat. I actually like it quite a bit. Be