[biofuel] Re: Natural gas, hybrid models top 'green car' report

2001-02-10 Thread Keith Addison
Thanks to Jerry for agreeing with the hydrogen energy balance - now let's see whether I can talk him the same way regarding electric vehicles. Where does the electricity come from? It is again a secondary energy source and dependant on the initial generation. If from the grid, then it is a

[biofuel] Re: Natural gas, hybrid models top 'green car' report

2001-02-10 Thread physkid
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], biofuels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks to Jerry for agreeing with the hydrogen energy balance - now let's see whether I can talk him the same way regarding electric vehicles. Where does the electricity come from? It is again a secondary energy source

Re: [biofuel] Re: Natural gas, hybrid models top 'green car' report

2001-02-10 Thread NBT - E. Beggs
1. TDM 2. Efficient use after TDM 3. Biodiesel Cogen/APU (cogen when parked, APU when hooked up) - Original Message - From: jerry dycus [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 09, 2001 7:04 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Re: Natural gas, hybrid models top 'green

Re: [biofuel] Re: Natural gas, hybrid models top 'green car' report

2001-02-10 Thread jerry dycus
Hi All, --- NBT - E. Beggs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1. TDM 2. Efficient use after TDM What is TDM? 3. Biodiesel Cogen/APU (cogen when parked, APU when hooked up) An EV apu could be used in many ways. You could make money by selling electricity back to the power co during peak

[biofuel] Re: Natural gas, hybrid models top 'green car' report

2001-02-09 Thread Keith Addison
Heeheehee Where did the gas and petroleum come from? Non-sustainable and polluting. More spin! Terry Well, of course it's spin. Natural gas is cleaner at the tailpipe, but not anywhere else (except in the minds of Big Oil spin doctors). Hybrids are interesting though. A good hybrid running on

Re: [biofuel] Re: Natural gas, hybrid models top 'green car' report

2001-02-09 Thread jerry dycus
Hi Kieth and All, I agree with Terry on H2 for fuel for the same reasons. Above the ineff of producing the gas the problems of storing enough to go more than 100 miles in a vehicle have not been solved. Even if the storage problem is solved a vehicle that ineff will lose in the future

Re: [biofuel] Re: Natural gas, hybrid models top 'green car' report

2001-02-09 Thread biofuels
Thanks to Jerry for agreeing with the hydrogen energy balance - now let's see whether I can talk him the same way regarding electric vehicles. Where does the electricity come from? It is again a secondary energy source and dependant on the initial generation. If from the grid, then it is a