RE: patents, biotech and cellulosic ethanol was RE: [Biofuel] ethanol from wood

2005-01-21 Thread Peggy
Hello Greg, Easy sources of cellulosic material can be found in waste vegetable matter from their local supermarkets and produce terminals. Our local terminal throws away from 20,000 to 40,000 pounds a day of produce. If you check with a major super market, then you can have another great

Re: patents, biotech and cellulosic ethanol was RE: [Biofuel] ethanol from wood

2005-01-21 Thread Greg Harbican
Colorado, about an hour south of Denver.Summer or winter it's cool in the basement. Greg H. - Original Message - From: Peggy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005 17:03 Subject: RE: patents,biotech and cellulosic ethanol was RE: [Biofuel] ethanol

Re: patents, biotech and cellulosic ethanol was RE: [Biofuel] ethanol from wood

2005-01-21 Thread Legal Eagle
You are very (very) close to some people I know out there. Parker Co. Luc - Original Message - From: Greg Harbican [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 9:55 AM Subject: Re: patents,biotech and cellulosic ethanol was RE: [Biofuel] ethanol from wood

Re: patents, biotech and cellulosic ethanol was RE: [Biofuel] ethanol from wood

2005-01-21 Thread Greg Harbican
Nice place. Greg H. - Original Message - From: Legal Eagle [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 09:45 Subject: Re: patents,biotech and cellulosic ethanol was RE: [Biofuel] ethanol from wood G'day Greg; You are very (very) close to some people I

patents, biotech and cellulosic ethanol was RE: [Biofuel] ethanol from wood

2005-01-20 Thread Dave Shaw
Hello, Thanks for posting this. What do you think about the patenting of this technology? Seems to me that by patenting cellulosic ethanol, we run into the same problems as with many other renewable energy technology. That is, it may be controlled and owned by private corporations. So the

Re: patents, biotech and cellulosic ethanol was RE: [Biofuel] ethanol from wood

2005-01-20 Thread Andrew Cunningham
I think that if the people who came up with technology deserve to make money off of it. Compare the future for bioethanol with this technology vs if it were never disclosed. Patents requires disclosing how it works and they do expire. If anything will give people time to find a similar way of

Re: patents, biotech and cellulosic ethanol was RE: [Biofuel] ethanol from wood

2005-01-20 Thread aleksander . kac
Dave, snip As it has been explained to me, it is a matter of getting the enzymes cheap enough to make it cost effective--one cannot make the enzymes themselves, they are a product of biotech. Am I mistaken? What are the enzymes and where do they come from? snip Enzymes are a product of nature,

RE: patents, biotech and cellulosic ethanol was RE: [Biofuel] ethanol from wood

2005-01-20 Thread Peggy
of the processing plan. Best wishes, Peggy Peggy G Korth BioFuels Energy Corporation (830) 885-7409 Voice (830) 885-7416 Fax (210) 288-0999 Cell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Email Subject: Re: patents,biotech and cellulosic ethanol was RE: [Biofuel] ethanol from wood As it has been explained to me

Re: patents, biotech and cellulosic ethanol was RE: [Biofuel] ethanol from wood

2005-01-20 Thread Greg Harbican
, biotech and cellulosic ethanol was RE: [Biofuel] ethanol from wood Hello Dave. An application of cellulases is in the denim blue (jeans) laundery shop or factory to make the stone washed effect on denim with dimished amout or without stones, you might find global cheap providers of cellulases

RE: patents, biotech and cellulosic ethanol was RE: [Biofuel] ethanol from wood

2005-01-20 Thread Juan Boveda
, Paraguay -Mensaje original- De: Dave Shaw [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Enviado el: Jueves 20 de Enero de 2005 5:49 AM Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Asunto: patents,biotech and cellulosic ethanol was RE: [Biofuel] ethanol from wood Hello, Thanks for posting this. What do you think

RE: patents, biotech and cellulosic ethanol was RE: [Biofuel] ethanol from wood

2005-01-20 Thread Peggy
Hello Greg, The smallest volume in a mushroom complex can be the fruiting head. Mycelia (projections similar to our ideas of roots) can extend for miles and it is the mycelia that can be one of nature's greatest assets un filtration and healthy biomass: forest maintenance, and good soil. And

Re: patents, biotech and cellulosic ethanol was RE: [Biofuel] ethanol from wood

2005-01-20 Thread Greg Harbican
from the same cellulose biomass, would be ( as far as I'm concerned ), an economic home run if it works. Greg H. - Original Message - From: Peggy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005 09:43 Subject: RE: patents,biotech and cellulosic ethanol was RE

RE: patents, biotech and cellulosic ethanol was RE: [Biofuel] ethanol from wood

2005-01-20 Thread Juan Boveda
. Best Regards. Juan Boveda Pilar - Paraguay -Mensaje original- From: Greg Harbican [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005 11:20 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: patents,biotech and cellulosic ethanol was RE: [Biofuel] ethanol from wood Did I