Re: [biofuel] splitting CO2 into carbon and oxygen
Hey Ty, whatever you do, don't give up playing around with electrolosis as you call it. There have been just as many great discoveries made this way as in full blown research. After being on this mail for some time, list I have come to the conclusion that a lot of people out there are trying to clog the system with useless, demoralising, cynical observations, just to discourage legitimate research that could benefit mankind. I ask, are their reasons financial or jealousy. Regards, Terry. tyson rearden wrote: Hey Dana, Thanks for trying to help. I guess I didn't realize till later the way the question was worded. I was playing around with electrolosis and water and was just curious of a similar way to do that with CO2. I wasn't thinking of anything specific. Just to know if it would be usefull. Ty __ Do You Yahoo!? Find the one for you at Yahoo! Personals http://personals.yahoo.com Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Universal Inkjet Refill Kit $29.95 Refill any ink cartridge for less! Includes black and color ink. http://us.click.yahoo.com/1_Y1qC/MkNDAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] splitting CO2 into carbon and oxygen
Terry Day [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Ty, whatever you do, don't give up playing around with electrolosis as you call it. There have been just as many great discoveries made this way as in full blown research. More, I should think. And a great deal of time wasted too, but what the hell, the more tinkerers the better. After being on this mail for some time, list I have come to the conclusion that a lot of people out there are trying to clog the system with useless, demoralising, cynical observations, just to discourage legitimate research that could benefit mankind. I ask, are their reasons financial or jealousy. Huh? You're casting nasturtiums at more than 900 people. In fact, the people on this list have helped to push things forward a great deal on many fronts in the biofuels world, certainly to the benefit of mankind, very much so. I don't know of any wilful system-cloggers here, of whatever ilk or for whatever reason. Care to be a bit more specific? Best Keith Addison Journey to Forever Handmade Projects Tokyo http://journeytoforever.org/ Regards, Terry. tyson rearden wrote: Hey Dana, Thanks for trying to help. I guess I didn't realize till later the way the question was worded. I was playing around with electrolosis and water and was just curious of a similar way to do that with CO2. I wasn't thinking of anything specific. Just to know if it would be usefull. Ty Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Universal Inkjet Refill Kit $29.95 Refill any ink cartridge for less! Includes black and color ink. http://us.click.yahoo.com/r9F0cB/MkNDAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] 55 degs
Hi, My name is Christian and I«m quite new to this group. I«m currently finishing Environmental Engineering and to graduate, I must prepare a sort of thesis (actually, it«s not a thesis... it«s more of a thorough project). Anyway, I was thinking of preparing biodiesel to run it on the lab«s diesel engine (a small boat outboard... not much HP) and eventually test NOx and CO emissions. So the question is, in the two stage process, are the 55 ¼C essential, or can the temperature be roughly a bit more. Actually, for my batch low-volume process, I was thinking of heating the stew with a closed circuit of water in copper pipes or something, heated by a fish-tank water heater and pumped by a small aquarium water pump. Does anyone think this is feasible? What are the ordinary home methods of heating the mixture at 55 degs for over an hour? Does the initial heating of the brew (until it reaches the 55 ¼C) count as time? Thanx. Christian [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Universal Inkjet Refill Kit $29.95 Refill any ink cartridge for less! Includes black and color ink. http://us.click.yahoo.com/bAmslD/MkNDAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] Breaking Gridlock
Book Excerpt BREAKING GRIDLOCK We Can't Go On Like This by Jim Motavalli Mass transit is making modest overall gains, though it can be hard to get excited about increases that give cities bus and rail systems comparable to those they had in 1910. http://www.tompaine.com/features/2001/11/06/index.html Jim Motavalli is editor of E: The Environmental Magazine, and author of Forward Drive: The Race to Build Clean Cars for the Future, and the forthcoming Breaking Gridlock. Editor's Note: This is part I in a IV part series of excerpts from Motavalli's upcoming book Breaking Gridlock. Here, Motavalli examines our relationship with automobiles and their impact on our lives. In the new millennium, when the futurists said we'd all be wafting to work in sky cars, we're decidedly earthbound. According to Katie Alvord's book, Divorce Your Car!, a third of the average city's land is devoted to serving the car, including roads, service stations, and parking lots. In 1970, Americans drove a trillion miles per year; it's been more than two trillion since the mid-1990s. There are well over 210 million registered automobiles in the United States alone, and their numbers will soon overtake the human population. There are already more cars than there are American adults to drive them. Automotive fuel economy doubled in the 1980s, but fuel use continued to climb because of the increasing number of cars on the road. As cities sprawl farther into distant suburbs, daily commutes also spiral upward. An hour a day in the car has become the national norm. The average family takes ten car trips a day, mostly for shopping, socializing, or recreation. For every ten travel miles, nine are taken in a car. Every year, we use up 100 billion gallons of oil, more than half of it (56 percent) imported. If present trends continue, we'll be importing two-thirds of our oil in twenty years. As Alvord puts it, this isn't love; it's addiction. [more] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Universal Inkjet Refill Kit $29.95 Refill any ink cartridge for less! Includes black and color ink. http://us.click.yahoo.com/bAmslD/MkNDAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] Fw: VITA Request: Rice husk fuel
-Original Message- From: Bienvenido Sarria [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 11:22 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: information request November 13, 2001 To Whom It May Concern: My name is Bienvenido Sarria, I am a professor and researcher at the Center of Energy and Environmental Studies, at the University of Cienfuegos, Cuba. Our center is responsible for the development and implementation of alternative technologies in the area of energy and management in rural areas of the country taking into consideration the characteristics of the area and its natural resources. In various parts of our country we have several kinds of biomass available to use as a energy source for different process and the communities. Recently, we were given a task to develop a Pilot Plant to burn rice husk using Fluidized Beds technology. The intention is to use the rice husk available in the area to reduce the consumption of conventional fuels in the drying process of the rice and to produce electrical energy for the community where the rice plantations are located. Besides reducing the environmental impact this will also increase the employment positions available and will improve the living conditions of the area. This technology could be introduced in several communities in Cuba and Latin America where the biomass from agricultural crops are widely available, e.g. wood chips, sugar cane bagasse, among others. During the literature review we found that your organization, VITA, is a non-profit organization that support people working on technical problems in developing countries called VITA. From VITA webpage we understand that it offers information and assistance aimed at helping individuals and groups to select and implement technologies appropriate to their situations. Since we work in the area of energy and management we would like to know: Is there a possibility to have access to some relevant information for this specific project? Is there a possibility to have some financial support to develop this technology? Should we refer to some other person and/or organizations? Sincerely, Bienvenido Sarria _ Dr. Bienvenido Sarria CEEMA, University of Cienfuegos CUBA, CP 59430 ___ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Messenger Comunicacin instantnea gratis con tu gente. http://messenger.yahoo.es --- Request Posted: vwww.vita.org/inquiry/ Volunteers in Technical Assistance Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Universal Inkjet Refill Kit $29.95 Refill any ink cartridge for less! Includes black and color ink. http://us.click.yahoo.com/Vv.L9D/MkNDAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Oil and Fuel filtration (was various questions)
waste vegetable oil and water don't separate quite as easily as milk and cream. Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter: http://www.webconx.com/subscribe.htm Renewable Energy Pages - http://www.webconx.dns2go.com/ Human powered devices, equipment, and transport - http://24.190.106.81:8383/2000/humanpower.htm [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Louie Pelletier [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 3:41 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Oil and Fuel filtration (was various questions) hi my name is louis pelletier quesnel bc canada. i'm new to this list and can't spell woth a damm. on filtering this wvo ect. how about using an old cream seperator. the water and solids would come out one spout and clean oil out the other spout. it should make a fool proof filter louis - Original Message - From: craig reece [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 10:47 AM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Oil and Fuel filtration (was various questions) Ken, I apologize for the confusion. I'm converting my vehicle to use SVO (straight vegetable oil) or WVO (waste veggie oil) and would simply pour the WVO through the Baja Filter instead of straight into the fuel tank. But it could also be used, I guess, in biodiesel production, but only for small batches, where the slow process of manual filtration wouldn't be a problem. Craig Ken Provost wrote: Craig wrote: It's www.westmarine.com , and it's the Baja Fuel filter. I've got one, and it's got three different screens, in series, one of which is supposed to filter out water (it's designed for boaters who are concerned about getting bad diesel in Mexico - diesel contaminated with water. Seems like it would be a good prefilter for WVO (frenchfry oil) which might have water, plus of course chunks o' food. I've thought about using commercial filters for my oil and biodiesel, but I've always wondered -- how do you force the oil through? Specifically, do you have a recommendation of a particular pump (electric? manual?) that's readily available, reasonably priced, easily adapted to standard tubing or pipe sizes, etc etc? Mfr. and part no. would be great! Thx, -K Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- StartMeUp jump starts your car's battery using only the cigarette lighter. $24.95 at Youcansave.com http://us.click.yahoo.com/20gskB/LTTDAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Oil and Fuel filtration (was various questions)
the basic initial filtering material (stocking) is gravity. once in the heated tank, a standard diesel filter is sufficient. Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter: http://www.webconx.com/subscribe.htm Renewable Energy Pages - http://www.webconx.dns2go.com/ Human powered devices, equipment, and transport - http://24.190.106.81:8383/2000/humanpower.htm [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Ken Provost [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 1:33 PM Subject: [biofuel] Oil and Fuel filtration (was various questions) Craig wrote: It's www.westmarine.com , and it's the Baja Fuel filter. I've got one, and it's got three different screens, in series, one of which is supposed to filter out water (it's designed for boaters who are concerned about getting bad diesel in Mexico - diesel contaminated with water. Seems like it would be a good prefilter for WVO (frenchfry oil) which might have water, plus of course chunks o' food. I've thought about using commercial filters for my oil and biodiesel, but I've always wondered -- how do you force the oil through? Specifically, do you have a recommendation of a particular pump (electric? manual?) that's readily available, reasonably priced, easily adapted to standard tubing or pipe sizes, etc etc? Mfr. and part no. would be great! Thx, -K Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- StartMeUp jump starts your car's battery using only the cigarette lighter. $24.95 at Youcansave.com http://us.click.yahoo.com/qbucSA/LTTDAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Converting a diesel engine to vegtable oil
kerosene ;-) Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter: http://www.webconx.com/subscribe.htm Renewable Energy Pages - http://www.webconx.dns2go.com/ Human powered devices, equipment, and transport - http://24.190.106.81:8383/2000/humanpower.htm [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: David Preskett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 10:08 AM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Converting a diesel engine to vegtable oil THERE IS AND ADDITIVE THAT YOU ADD TO THE FUEL SO THE FUEL WILL NOT GEL IN THE COLDER CLIMATE. So what is this fabled additive to prevent gelling? Any chemists out there know this one (clue - wax inhibitor) so what is the chemical compound - no trade names please. Mad Dave (same bloke, different server) -- Recycling - not a chore more a way of life Dave Preskett [EMAIL PROTECTED] The BioComposites Centre University of Wales, Bangor Deiniol Road Bangor Gwynedd LL57 2UW Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Universal Inkjet Refill Kit $29.95 Refill any ink cartridge for less! Includes black and color ink. http://us.click.yahoo.com/ltH6zA/MkNDAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Converting a diesel engine to vegtable oil
well, not quite. conversion to the vehicle needs to be done if you want to run straight veg oil. If you convert the oil to biodiesel, then you can run unmodified in many vehicles. older ones will need rubber/plastic fuel components updated with viton. Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter: http://www.webconx.com/subscribe.htm Renewable Energy Pages - http://www.webconx.dns2go.com/ Human powered devices, equipment, and transport - http://24.190.106.81:8383/2000/humanpower.htm [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 8:02 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Converting a diesel engine to vegtable oil THERE IS NO CONVERSION NEEDED TO CONVERT YOUR DIESEL ENGINE TO RUN ON VEG-OIL. YOU MUST HAVE THE PROPER RATIOS TO DO THIS AND HAVE THE RIGHT PROCESS ! THERE IS AND ADDITIVE THAT YOU ADD TO THE FUEL SO THE FUEL WILL NOT GEL IN THE COLDER CLIMATE. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Universal Inkjet Refill Kit $29.95 Refill any ink cartridge for less! Includes black and color ink. http://us.click.yahoo.com/Vv.L9D/MkNDAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Converting a diesel engine to vegtable oil
http://www.webconx.dns2go.com/2000/biofuel/yohn Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter: http://www.webconx.com/subscribe.htm Renewable Energy Pages - http://www.webconx.dns2go.com/ Human powered devices, equipment, and transport - http://24.190.106.81:8383/2000/humanpower.htm [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Steve Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 2:41 PM Subject: [biofuel] Converting a diesel engine to vegtable oil Could anyone send me details on how to convert my diesel engine to vegtable oil Thanks Steve Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- StartMeUp jump starts your car's battery using only the cigarette lighter. $24.95 at Youcansave.com http://us.click.yahoo.com/qbucSA/LTTDAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Fw: VITA Request: Rice husk fuel
See website of a company called BC International (www.bcintlcorp.com). Sounds like they might be able to help. - Original Message - From: steve spence [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2001 11:43 AM Subject: [biofuel] Fw: VITA Request: Rice husk fuel -Original Message- From: Bienvenido Sarria [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 11:22 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: information request November 13, 2001 To Whom It May Concern: My name is Bienvenido Sarria, I am a professor and researcher at the Center of Energy and Environmental Studies, at the University of Cienfuegos, Cuba. Our center is responsible for the development and implementation of alternative technologies in the area of energy and management in rural areas of the country taking into consideration the characteristics of the area and its natural resources. In various parts of our country we have several kinds of biomass available to use as a energy source for different process and the communities. Recently, we were given a task to develop a Pilot Plant to burn rice husk using Fluidized Beds technology. The intention is to use the rice husk available in the area to reduce the consumption of conventional fuels in the drying process of the rice and to produce electrical energy for the community where the rice plantations are located. Besides reducing the environmental impact this will also increase the employment positions available and will improve the living conditions of the area. This technology could be introduced in several communities in Cuba and Latin America where the biomass from agricultural crops are widely available, e.g. wood chips, sugar cane bagasse, among others. During the literature review we found that your organization, VITA, is a non-profit organization that support people working on technical problems in developing countries called VITA. From VITA webpage we understand that it offers information and assistance aimed at helping individuals and groups to select and implement technologies appropriate to their situations. Since we work in the area of energy and management we would like to know: Is there a possibility to have access to some relevant information for this specific project? Is there a possibility to have some financial support to develop this technology? Should we refer to some other person and/or organizations? Sincerely, Bienvenido Sarria _ Dr. Bienvenido Sarria CEEMA, University of Cienfuegos CUBA, CP 59430 ___ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Messenger Comunicacin instantnea gratis con tu gente. http://messenger.yahoo.es --- Request Posted: vwww.vita.org/inquiry/ Volunteers in Technical Assistance Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
