[Biofuel] MSDS for Biofuel

2005-09-19 Thread JJJN
Someone asked a few days ago... Here is one I found. http://www.biodiesel.com/images/Material%20Safety%20Sheet.pdf Wisdom to all, Jim ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org

Re: [Biofuel] Biodiesel in SC

2005-09-19 Thread Darryl West
Hi guys, I actually have a quick question for Darren, firstly where about in Aust are you? Secondly where is the best place to get NaOH and methanol from. I live in Brissy and am trying to find the best place to get these substances. Cheers Darryl -Original Message- From: [EMAIL

[Biofuel] Thanks Keith

2005-09-19 Thread JJJN
FuelMeister ? Ever heard of that one? I hit upon this site and curiosity made me search the archives for FuelMeister well that was a real interesting little read. Anyway thanks Keith for setting this all up and helping all us newbies out ! I have to wonder if all the crank rumors that I have

Re: [Biofuel] Can this man save the world? (Hydrogen injection)

2005-09-19 Thread Rexis Tree
Most internal combustion engines operate at about 35 per cent efficiency. This means that only 35 per cent of the fuel is fully burned. The rest either turns to carbon corroding the engine or goes out the exhaust pipe as greenhouse gases. Wow, according to this in theory if we make a 100%

Re: [Biofuel] Selling Biodiesel

2005-09-19 Thread rallstate
Not all off road fuel is died, Since I have live in Alaska I have not seen any Red Off Road Fuel. But do remember it from years ago back on the farm in Michigan. --- Appal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In the US, on-road fuel must be registered with the EPA. This theoretically shows that

[Biofuel] Noob still question

2005-09-19 Thread Aragorn
Hello I am looking into making fuel ethanol from waste fruit and other produce grown on my block which I intend togrow onusing permaculture. I am not in a position to do any welding etc. so I would like to buy a still that can distill to the required proof in one pass such as a good reflux or a

[Biofuel] biodiesel in the Philippines

2005-09-19 Thread tanuki
I noted a Franklin del Rosario cited in our web pages. How can we get in touch with him? I have been looking for someone to link up with here in the Philippines to look into doing bio-diesel. The Philippines is a strange situation. The government wants BIG biodiesel plants and is discouraging

Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Lavado

2005-09-19 Thread Andres Yver
On Sunday, September 18, 2005, at 03:01 PM, CLON S.A wrote:   - Original Message - From: Daniel To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2005 3:00 AM Subject: Lavado El lavado del biodiesel se debe de hacer con agua destilada o con agua del grifo (potable) 

Re: [Biofuel] SPACE HEATERS

2005-09-19 Thread JJJN
Thank You Sami I will check this out! Sami Vastela wrote: Check these http://www.wallas.fi/index_eng.php?page=31PHPSESSID=705777f49548a7102f6437a b5cf9e270 I have the smaller one in our summer cottage. I haven't yet tried BD, but it works great with normal heatingoil so BD should be just fine.

Re: [Biofuel] global warming tipping point

2005-09-19 Thread Terry Dyck
From: Alt.EnergyNetwork [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] global warming tipping point Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 07:33:18 + Hello, Why not discuss the story and implications right here. This list is full of

Re: [Biofuel] Can this man save the world? (Hydrogen injection)

2005-09-19 Thread Jan Warnqvist
Furthermore, when the energy efficiency of a combustion engine is 35% it means the relationship between added energy (fuel) and the power that comes as a result. The rest of the energy is heat energy, which becomestransported by the cooling system as well as creating hot exhaust fumes. If

Re: [Biofuel] Solar technique could lead to cleaner, cheaper hydrogen

2005-09-19 Thread des
I recall that chemistry experiment, (also works with potassium), both metals were kept under oil to prevent oxidation. They're very unstable metals, and not found on earth in their pure forms. Hence the question becomes: How much energy does it take to purify the metal, and once this is

Re: [Biofuel] Solar technique could lead to cleaner, cheaper hydrogen

2005-09-19 Thread Ken Chua
Hi all, Sodium in air will burn instantly and explosively. Wasn't this the reason Thomas Edison got fired and lost part of his hearing because he let dry a piece of sodium metal in the box car he was experimenting in. The box car burned to the ground too. Sodium metal is usually placed in oil

Re: [Biofuel] Thanks Keith

2005-09-19 Thread Mills, Duncan
And for good measure, in case anyone outside of the USA is looking at this: For the same 150l processor: 2995USD from Fuelmeister USD (http://www.fuelmeister.com/products/fuelmeister.asp) 6227USD (£3459) from Greenfuels (http://www.greenfuels.co.uk/small.htm) and 10867USD (R70 000) here in South

Re: [Biofuel] Khaos Super Turbo Charger

2005-09-19 Thread bob allen
I seriously doubt it, the Khaos device does much of anything and I have yet to see any well controlled studies that show that adding small amounts of acetone impacts fuel efficiency. NBV wrote: The reference below claims to save 15%-50% gasoline fuel when installed; the principle is the

[Biofuel] Ontario alternate power: Bullfrog

2005-09-19 Thread mark manchester
Has anyone else seen this? I don't know about the reliability of the info. Jesse http://truthforce.ca/groupee/forums/a/tpc/f/4346090942/m/8781025931/r/347109 8931 ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org

[Biofuel] New Yahoo! Group - alcohol fuel

2005-09-19 Thread Michael Redler
FYI: I came across an ethanol fuel group. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/alcoholfuel/ It's pretty new (Sept 4). Despite that, they seem to have a lot of activity. Although JTF is still the most comprehensive source for alternative fuel production (IMO), I've never met someone from whom I

[Biofuel] Grass growing one month longer

2005-09-19 Thread Michael Redler
I was doing a search on something unrelated and found this article in The Free Republic (of all places)! They tried to make an example out of this and use it to make fun of those who recognize global warming. So, it only seems fair to post the original article (from thesource listed in the FR

Re: [Biofuel] turbo diesels

2005-09-19 Thread Purbo J. Wignjosajono
I have been using biodiesel on my intercooled turbo diesel for about 7.000 miles and ,, thank Gog, have not found any problem with it. PJW - Original Message - From: Darryl West To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 1:31 PM Subject:

Re: [Biofuel] Solar technique could lead to cleaner, cheaper hydrogen

2005-09-19 Thread Richard Littrell
This is truly an excellent way to generate cheap hydrogen on command. It eliminates the storage difficulty that hydrogen gas presents. The only problem is generating cheap pure sodium... Rick bmolloy wrote: Hi All, This thread intrigued, so much so that I posted it around among

Re: [Biofuel] Solar technique could lead to cleaner, cheaper hydrogen

2005-09-19 Thread Zeke Yewdall
Hmmm. Seems very similar to generating hydrogen on demand from water by electrolyzing it. Works great, but there is that pesky energy balance thing... I suspect the energy to refine sodium is much greater than what you ever get out of the hydrogen. Plus, what to do with the left over sodium

Re: [Biofuel] Solar technique could lead to cleaner, cheaper hydrogen

2005-09-19 Thread Richard Littrell
Dear Doug, No. Rick des wrote: I recall that chemistry experiment, (also works with potassium), both metals were kept under oil to prevent oxidation. They're very unstable metals, and not found on earth in their pure forms. Hence the question becomes: How much energy does it take

Re: [Biofuel] Ontario alternate power: Bullfrog

2005-09-19 Thread Zeke Yewdall
It says that they have met the Canadian federal government's Environmental Choice Program EcoLogo standards, which I guess is what Canada uses instead of the Green-e certification that the US uses? On 9/19/05, mark manchester [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone else seen this? I don't know

Re: [Biofuel] Solar Air Cleaner (was advancement of car technology for 1)

2005-09-19 Thread Joe Street
Kewl! Me and my hang gliding buddies have been talking about something like this for a while. We are interested in using the convective force not to drive air through filters but rather to trigger larger convective currents in the air. Yes I am talking about a thermal generator. It would

Re: [Biofuel] global warming tipping point

2005-09-19 Thread Zeke Yewdall
You know... I hate it when I'm right. I was right about Iraq, and more and more it appears I may have been right about global warming too IF we have reached the tipping point where catastrophic effects from global warming are unavoidable, even if we completely stopped CO2 emissions right

[Biofuel] Carnot -- was Can this man save the world? (Hydrogen injection)

2005-09-19 Thread Kirk McLoren
The 35% is 35% of the theoretical Carnot, not 35% of the potential energy of the fuel. And yes, the rest of the energy is in the exhaust pipe and water jacket although it is almost all heat as unburned hydrocarbons is usually not true any more. This little measurement twist is why most don't

Re: [Biofuel] Biofuel Morality Question

2005-09-19 Thread Zeke Yewdall
Are Cheney and Rove with him? I might actually save GW, but not the others... On 9/18/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i'd have to go for the high-contrast color. you can always digitize it later and convert to grey-scale. -chris b. In a message dated 9/17/05 6:17:17 PM,

[Biofuel] Fwd: war now

2005-09-19 Thread Kirk McLoren
Also see http://www.americas.org/item_19275 http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/12654463.htmKirk U.S. WAR PENDING AGAINST VENEZUELA?Sunday, September 18, 2005 - FreeMarketNews.comAmerican warships have assembled off the shores of Venezuela, and a war between the two countries seems to be fast

Re: [Biofuel] Carnot -- was Can this man save the world? (Hydrogen injection)

2005-09-19 Thread Zeke Yewdall
H? How come I took two thermodynamics courses in college, and never heard this? Then again, I got an electrical engineering degree concentrating in power systems, and never heard of the existence of PV. On 9/19/05, Kirk McLoren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As for Carnot calculate the

Re: [Biofuel] Oil shale

2005-09-19 Thread DHAJOGLO
On Wednesday, September 14, 2005 4:40 PM, Ray J wrote: You must not have read the article ***sigh*** I did read the article. I guess my phrasing just wasn't good enough so I'll rephrase: If you drill into the ground and remove a finite amount of matter in a finite volume, you are left

Re: [Biofuel] Solar technique could lead to cleaner, cheaper hydrogen

2005-09-19 Thread bob allen
Actually, whereas potassium will react with moisture in the air, sodium won't react so rapidly. Chuck it water and it will, quite excitingly. Ken Chua wrote: Hi all, Sodium in air will burn instantly and explosively. Wasn't this the reason Thomas Edison got fired and lost part of his

Re: [Biofuel] Solar technique could lead to cleaner, cheaper hydrogen

2005-09-19 Thread bob allen
sure it works but it takes more energy to make the sodium than you get back in hydorgen. bmolloy wrote: Hi All, This thread intrigued, so much so that I posted it around among friends for comment. One said that sodium was the answer to generating cheap hydrogen. The exchange as

Re: [Biofuel] advancement of car technology for 1

2005-09-19 Thread Zeke Yewdall
Interesting idea, but I'd have to say I prefer PV myself. No moving parts. Solar got a bad rap in the US in the 80's due to alot of poorly installed solar thermal systems. Now everyone expects their PV system to leak I can't actually remember doing any maintenance on my PV system in the

Re: [Biofuel] U.S. market doesn't make it

2005-09-19 Thread Zeke Yewdall
Yeah. I want the 2.5l diesel D-max too. But instead I just bought a 21 year old Mitsubishi pickup because that was the last time they imported the diesel to the US. I can't justify spending any money on a car, new or old, that can't run on renewable fuels. I suspect the problems in importing

Re: [Biofuel] Carnot -- was Can this man save the world? (Hydrogeninjection)

2005-09-19 Thread Graeme Vagg
Kirk, Jan's comments are closest to the real situation. 35% would be the average thermal efficiency of Internal Combustion Engines determined by the amount of work done (power output) divided by ther amount of energy available in the fuel. Current petrol engines have a thermal efficiency

Re: [Biofuel] Solar Air Cleaner (was advancement of car technology for 1)

2005-09-19 Thread bob allen
here is a similar technology on a grand scale. http://edition.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/asiapcf/auspac/01/05/australia.tower/ turn the fans off and this baby would shoot you to the stratosphere in a jiffy. Joe Street wrote: Kewl! Me and my hang gliding buddies have been talking about something

Re: [Biofuel] Ontario alternate power: Bullfrog

2005-09-19 Thread mark manchester
Thanks Zeke, yeah, good point. I guess that makes them sort of legit. As much as anyone is, eh? Jesse From: Zeke Yewdall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2005 08:46:31 -0600 To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Ontario alternate

Re: [Biofuel] Solar technique could lead to cleaner, cheaper hydrogen

2005-09-19 Thread Richard Littrell
 Dear Ken, That was phosphorus. Rick Ken Chua wrote: Hi all, Sodium in air will burn instantly and explosively. Wasn't this the reason Thomas Edison got fired and lost part of his hearing because he let dry a piece of sodium metal in the box car he was experimenting in.

Re: [Biofuel] Carnot -- was Can this man save the world? (Hydrogeninjection)

2005-09-19 Thread Kirk McLoren
http://www.benwiens.com/energy4.html Fuel cells are analyzed theoretically using the carnot ratio which, it is explained, applies to both heat engines as well as fuel cells. A simple second law analysis shows where the loss of efficiency in different fuel cells occurs. Energy concepts are based on

Re: [Biofuel] Solar technique could lead to cleaner, cheaper hydrogen

2005-09-19 Thread bob allen
Howdy Rick and Ken, Potassium will burst into flame due to reaction with moist air, sodium will not. There are three allotropes of phosphorous. Red (amorphous) and Black (laminar) are not particularly reactive (think of the red of a match head- that's red phosphorous) Only white

Re: [Biofuel] Carnot -- was Can this man save the world? (Hydrogeninjection)

2005-09-19 Thread Zeke Yewdall
Internal combustion engines are rated at % of Carnot achieved and as I said before low temperature engines such as powered by flat plate collectors will not be even vaguely close to what Carnot would lead you to believe. That is why there are no successful ones. Use Charles law and tell me

Re: [Biofuel] ethanol method

2005-09-19 Thread bob allen
Howdy Tom, I am surprised that the method works at all. There is a fundamental problem with the pKa's of ethanol and methanol. the equilibrium KOH + EtOH -- KOEt + H2O favors the left side of the equasion whereas for methanol KOH + MeOH --- KOMe + H2O favors the right side.

Re: [Biofuel] engine swapping /was Debatable statement?

2005-09-19 Thread bob allen
here is an engine swapping question for someone with more expertise than me (easily done); I can get a nicely redone 79 (?) mg midget without an engine. A guy apparently did a restoration job, then blew the engine. I had considered putting a vw diesel in it. My mechanic said he could

Re: [Biofuel] global warming tipping point

2005-09-19 Thread Ken Provost
On Sep 19, 2005, at 8:23 AM, Zeke Yewdall wrote: it could be argued that, if indeed we have reached a tipping point, that preventing global warming is moot, and we should do whatever we can to deal with the effects of global warming. We should do that anyway.. There are other

Re: [Biofuel] engine swapping /was Debatable statement?

2005-09-19 Thread Zeke Yewdall
The 1.6 liter VW diesel will rev to about 5,000. Now, it is quite loud at that point, and the fuel economy degrades (best at about 2,000), but it will do it. I think the new TDI VW diesels are redlined at 4,500 rpm (with peak fuel economy at 1800). There's a discussion forum vwdiesel.net that

Re: [Biofuel] Biofuel Morality Question

2005-09-19 Thread Jason
 Unless I had a digital camera. I'd save the film. Jason In a message dated 9/17/05 6:17:17 PM, dougwrites: We did? Looks like my vote got ignored yet again. I'd choose the black and white, color film leaves nothing for the imagination... ___

Re: [Biofuel] Solar Air Cleaner

2005-09-19 Thread Jason
Hi Joe, Nice idea :) ''I am talking about a thermal generator. It would be so nice to have a house thermal always reliable and present on the location of our airfield.'' The speed of the wind a solar tower creates is dependent on two main things. The size of the solar collection area, ie

[Biofuel] plans for gasifier cooking stove?

2005-09-19 Thread Erik Andelman
Hello all, I'd like to make a cookstove which burns a flame under the pot, the flame being from producer gas. Does anyone have plans for such a stove? Thanks, Erik ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org

Re: [Biofuel] engine swapping /was Debatable statement?

2005-09-19 Thread bob allen
Emissions testing, hey we don't need (do) no stinkin' emissions testing here in Arkansas! thanks Zeke. Zeke Yewdall wrote: The 1.6 liter VW diesel will rev to about 5,000. Now, it is quite loud at that point, and the fuel economy degrades (best at about 2,000), but it will do it. I think

Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: war now

2005-09-19 Thread Keith Addison
Also see http://www.americas.org/item_19275http://www.americas.org/item_19275 http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/12654463.htmhttp://www.miami.c om/mld/miamiherald/12654463.htm Kirk U.S. WAR PENDING AGAINST VENEZUELA? Sunday, September 18, 2005 - FreeMarketNews.com American warships have

[Biofuel] Rove to rebuilt New Orleans

2005-09-19 Thread Zeke Yewdall
So according to the New York Times, Carl Rove is in charge of rebuilding New Orleans?? I think I'm going to be sick. http://select.nytimes.com/2005/09/19/opinion/19herbert.html?hp ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org

Re: [Biofuel] engine swapping /was Debatable statement?

2005-09-19 Thread Zeke Yewdall
Besides, if you run it on biodiesel (I assume that's the plan) the emissions are much lower than for diesel anyway. My truck went from 48% smoke to 9% smoke when I switched fuels. Combination of the better fuel, and probably cleaning out the old gunked up injectors On 9/19/05, bob allen

Re: [Biofuel] engine swapping /was Debatable statement?

2005-09-19 Thread S. Chapin
Ooops, duh maybe because the TDI is front wheel drive? Sorry S. Chapin bob allen wrote: Emissions testing, hey we don't need (do) no stinkin' emissions testing here in Arkansas! thanks Zeke. Zeke Yewdall wrote: The 1.6 liter VW diesel will rev to about 5,000. Now, it is quite loud at

Re: [Biofuel] engine swapping /was Debatable statement?

2005-09-19 Thread S. Chapin
I'm not sure about midgets, or the later mgb, but some mgb's had an overdrive as did P1800 volvo and some healey's. I think they were all electric. I would look into mating the vw tdi with the volvo unit, but? Why not find a TDI trans to put in the midget? S. Chapin bob allen wrote:

Re: [Biofuel] Solar Air Cleaner

2005-09-19 Thread Joe Street
Hi Jason; Thanks for the response. Do you know if the device incorporates baffles so that the incoming air does not simply move radialy? In the northern hemisphere due to corriolis effect air rushing in to replace rising air is deflected to the right (as viewed from above) so that dust devils

Re: [Biofuel] engine swapping /was Debatable statement?

2005-09-19 Thread Zeke Yewdall
If you're doing a engine-to-bellhousing adaptor anyway, why not use a 5 speed tranny from a small rear wheel drive toyota pickup or such? On 9/19/05, S. Chapin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ooops, duh maybe because the TDI is front wheel drive? Sorry S. Chapin bob allen wrote: Emissions

Re: [Biofuel] plans for gasifier cooking stove?

2005-09-19 Thread Keith Addison
Hello all, I'd like to make a cookstove which burns a flame under the pot, the flame being from producer gas. Does anyone have plans for such a stove? Thanks, Erik See: Wood-gas stoves http://journeytoforever.org/at_woodfire.html#woodgasstoves Cookstoves for schools -- A wood-gas stove made

[Biofuel] Cindy Sheehan arrested in Manhattan

2005-09-19 Thread Michael Redler
FYI: ...Mike ___ From: MA PA [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: BREAKING: Cindy Sheehan arrested in ManhattanDate: Mon, 19 Sep 2005 16:26:05 -0400 (EDT)BREAKING: Cindy Sheehan arrested in Manhattanby Five of DiamondsMon Sep 19th, 2005

Re: [Biofuel] Cindy Sheehan arrested in Manhattan

2005-09-19 Thread Zeke Yewdall
http://villagevoice.com/news/0538,fergusonshee,67983,2.html Google is starting to find stories on it. Be interesting to see what the main stream media makes of it On 9/19/05, Michael Redler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FYI: ...Mike ___

Re: [Biofuel] Q to Prof. Bob Allen Re: Na2SO4

2005-09-19 Thread bob allen
I don't see why not. Chris wrote: Dear Prof.Allen: Good day! Can final drying of BD can be done with anhydrous Na2S04? We use it all the time in organic chem lab. Can Na2SO4 be regenerated, perhaps by heating, and then reused? Best regards, Chris

Re: [Biofuel] Q to Prof. Bob Allen Re: Na2SO4

2005-09-19 Thread Chris
Thank you, Sir. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of bob allen Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 3:01 PM To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Q to Prof. Bob Allen Re: Na2SO4 I don't see why not. Chris wrote: Dear

Re: [Biofuel] engine swapping /was Debatable statement?

2005-09-19 Thread capt3d
bob, be sure to check into this if you haven't already. illinois law, as in most states if i'm not mistaken, only exempts older vehicles if they are driven less than a set number of miles annually (in illinois, 5000 m/year). -chris b. Zeke Yewdall wrote: Being a 1979, you are probably exempt

Re: [Biofuel] engine swapping /was Debatable statement?

2005-09-19 Thread bob allen
not to worry, in Arkansas we have never had emissions testing, and and abandoned any vehicle inspection a few years ago. No insurance, no license plates, no headlights, broken windshields, no problem. By law you should have all the above, but in reality, unless something happens (a wreck)

[Biofuel] Flat Panel Solar Water Heater

2005-09-19 Thread Ken Dunn
Hi all, I'm trying to collect materials to build a solar hot water heater. I have a few questions for the initiated. I have been thinking that my most affordable way to go would be to use abandoned sliding glass doors (double pane of course) for my glazing. I can't imagine that there would be any

Re: [Biofuel] Rove to rebuild New Orleans

2005-09-19 Thread marilyn
Biofuel@sustainablelists.org wrote: So according to the New York Times, Carl Rove is in charge of rebuilding New Orleans?? I think I'm going to be sick. http://select.nytimes.com/2005/09/19/opinion/19herbert.html?hp; ..and equally mystifying, the same article says Pat Robertson's

[Biofuel] Engineers Without Borders

2005-09-19 Thread Michael Redler
Does anyone have information on this? Mike"Al-Masoud, Nidal (EngTech)" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Subject: RE: ASME - New Haven EventDate: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 19:05:36 -0400From: "Al-Masoud, Nidal \(EngTech\)" [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: "Michael Redler" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello Mike, Do you know the