Re: [Biofuel] The Age of Autism: Hot potato on the Hill

2006-04-04 Thread D. Mindock
Hi Zeke, Well, let's say your immune system has been tweaked via vaccinations for diseases D, P, T and along comes disease X. If your immune system is down due to illness, say influenza, disease X will have an open door. My point is that vaccinations give some help for the known major

Re: [Biofuel] PBS Green Building show

2006-04-04 Thread WM LUKE MATHISEN
We just finished a new (fire killed log) home off the grid with a photovolitaic system, it was a lot of fun putting it together. Love to help if you have any questions. I have a diesel backup generator so thats how I got involved in the BioDiesel. Life is good (especially off the grid)! Luke

Re: [Biofuel] [SPAM] Re: Recent PBS report Persons of Interest TALON program - US AirForce

2006-04-04 Thread Gary L. Green
Just picked up Confessions of an Economic Hit Man.  Lets you know who is really in control.]On 31 Mar 2006, at 15:02, Keith Addison wrote:People definitely seem to be waking up en masse. About time too. ___ Biofuel mailing list

Re: [Biofuel] The Age of Autism: Hot potato on the Hill

2006-04-04 Thread Gary L. Green
On 4 Apr 2006, at 08:54, robert luis rabello wrote: This may be true. But I also remember polio, whooping cough and other nasty, debilitating diseases for which there was no cure and no effective treatment before vaccination. Don't look now but Whooping Cough is still around. Polio

[Biofuel] Biodiesel course

2006-04-04 Thread Dietmar
Dear Sirs, is there anyone in Europe that teaches how to make biodiesel? I figured out how it ought to work in theory, but would very much appreciate someone expert to guide me through at least once. Best Regards Dietmar ___ Biofuel

Re: [Biofuel] [SPAM] Re: Recent PBS report Persons of Interest TALON program - US AirForce

2006-04-04 Thread lres1
The book makes for some disgusting thought processing, it should be titled "The Real World". I was of the thinking that "we the waste makers" was pretty bad till I read the later book. Doug - Original Message - From: Gary L. Green To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org

Re: [Biofuel] Biodiesel course

2006-04-04 Thread michael hicks
Try Low impact living initiative they run biodiesel courses in the uk i found their course good. Check out www.lililowimpact.orgCheers MykeDietmar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Sirs,is there anyone in Europe that teaches how to make biodiesel? I figured out how it ought

Re: [Biofuel] acids

2006-04-04 Thread Appal Energy
For those who can't acquire concentrated sulfuric locally, try Aqua Science, Columbus, Ohio. www.aquascience.com They don't distribute to individuals, so you'll need a tax ID number at hand. Todd Swearingen greg Kelly wrote: I believe pool acid is fuming hydrochloric acid. They may also

Re: [Biofuel] shockwaves

2006-04-04 Thread Joe Street
Hmmm interesting. I can easily send my recirculation pump into cavitation with a few inches of vacuum when there is methanol in the mixture. All I would need to do is add a refluxing column to the reactor to make sure the alcohol stays in there. Maybe this is an easier route to investigate

Re: [Biofuel] The Age of Autism: Hot potato on the Hill

2006-04-04 Thread Garth Kim Travis
Greetings, About polio, I do believe there is some research that has tied polio to organophosphate fertilizers. My father and grandfather both had polio, my grandfather was 49 when he go it. They had a farm although they lived in the city by then and had used the chemicals about 10 years

[Biofuel] New EPA Rules

2006-04-04 Thread robert luis rabello
It looks more like the Endangering Permission Agency . . . http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5321132 A leaked document from the Environmental Protection Agency suggests that the agency is considering a significant change in air-pollution rules. It would give chemical

Re: [Biofuel] Small oil press

2006-04-04 Thread Keith Addison
Hi all Jason sent me a nicely drawn graphic of how the PITEBA oilpress could work. It's here: http://journeytoforever.org/bflpics/oilpress.jpg Any comments? Best Keith Kieth, If you look carefully at one of the close-up pics ( http://www.piteba.com/eng/index_eng.htm about halfway down)

[Biofuel] Antarctic Air is Warming Faster Than Rest of World

2006-04-04 Thread Keith Addison
Also: http://enn.com/aff.html?id=1196 2005 Hottest Year On Record March 28, 2006 - By Earth Policy Institute -- http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,3-2111772,00.html Published on Friday, March 31, 2006 by the Times/UK Antarctic Air is Warming Faster Than Rest of World New finding could

Re: [Biofuel] Biodiesel course

2006-04-04 Thread ricalls
what fun is that. i have found the instructions on the JTF web site to be fairly completeand i am having steady success. after producing 5 gal of BD from WVO i will be using the acid method soon. give it a go and good luck. -Original Message- From: michael hicks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:

[Biofuel] The Secret To Being As Radical As We Want To Be

2006-04-04 Thread Keith Addison
http://www.precaution.org/lib/06/prn_financing_activism_ourselves.060315.htm www.adbusters.org March 15, 2006 The Secret To Being As Radical As We Want To Be [Rachel's introduction: The secret to being as radical as we want to be is to finance the revolution ourselves.] By Michael Shuman and

Re: [Biofuel] acids

2006-04-04 Thread ricalls
thsi is true that pool dealers mostly deal in muratic acid and not sulphuric. in my youth as a pool boy i have never seen sulphuric acid used in a pool. so it gets back to my problem of purchasing concentrated sulphuric acid since i am an individual and have no tax i.d. number. -Original

[Biofuel] The dangers of being poor and nonwhite

2006-04-04 Thread Keith Addison
http://www.precaution.org/lib/06/prn_unequal_exposure.060323.htm Rachel's Democracy Health News #848 Thursday, March 30, 2006 The dangers of being poor and nonwhite [Rachel's introduction: The poor and communities of color are exposed to up to 10 times as much industrial pollution as their

[Biofuel] Pollution: Where have all the baby boys gone?

2006-04-04 Thread Keith Addison
http://news.independent.co.uk/environment/article355200.ece Independent Online Edition Environment Pollution: Where have all the baby boys gone? Every year, thousands of British babies who should be boys are born girls. The answer to this mystery could lie in a small town in Canada. Geoffrey

[Biofuel] Time to get serious about inequality and sustainability

2006-04-04 Thread Keith Addison
http://www.precaution.org/lib/06/prn_inequality_and_sustainability.051101.htm Synthesis/Regeneration (Fall 2005) November 1, 2005 Time to get serious about inequality and sustainability [Rachel's introduction: Strategies that tackle elite income and wealth, and thereby consumption, serve both

[Biofuel] Fw: Doctor Doom?!

2006-04-04 Thread Fritz Friesinger

Re: [Biofuel] The Age of Autism: Hot potato on the Hill

2006-04-04 Thread bob allen
Gary L. Green wrote: On 4 Apr 2006, at 08:54, robert luis rabello wrote: This may be true. But I also remember polio, whooping cough and other nasty, debilitating diseases for which there was no cure and no effective treatment before vaccination. Don't look now but Whooping Cough is

Re: [Biofuel] New EPA Rules

2006-04-04 Thread Zeke Yewdall
What is the logic in a 25 ton cap? Are all chemical factories the same size? 25 tons for large factory might actually very low, compared to the total throughput of chemicals, but for a small factory (say a homebrew biodiesel setup), a 25 ton allowance might be more than it could possibly

Re: [Biofuel] New EPA Rules

2006-04-04 Thread robert luis rabello
Zeke Yewdall wrote: What is the logic in a 25 ton cap? Are all chemical factories the same size? 25 tons for large factory might actually very low, compared to the total throughput of chemicals, but for a small factory (say a homebrew biodiesel setup), a 25 ton allowance might be more

Re: [Biofuel] The Age of Autism: Hot potato on the Hill

2006-04-04 Thread bob allen
Garth Kim Travis wrote: Greetings, About polio, I do believe there is some research that has tied polio to organophosphate fertilizers. organophosphates are insecticides, inorganic phosphates are fertilizers. And most the sites which claim that polio is not caused by a virus, but

Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Doctor Doom?!

2006-04-04 Thread Zeke Yewdall
Well, by not doing anything about our overpopulation and unsustainable practices, aren't we all implicitly accepting that eventually the ecosystem's immune system (probably via diseases such as ebola) will react to the cancer than humans have become, and bring us back under control. It's as if

Re: [Biofuel] The Age of Autism: Hot potato on the Hill

2006-04-04 Thread Zeke Yewdall
I agree with this -- vaccines protect against a particular disease, that has been a problem in the past -- such as polio, etc... I think it is folly to not protect ourselves from a known hazard with a known tool we have available. But like you said, a healthy immune system is the only thing to

Re: [Biofuel] New EPA Rules

2006-04-04 Thread Zeke Yewdall
Ooops. My bad. I didn't realize that we were talking about faith based pollution... On 4/4/06, robert luis rabello [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Zeke Yewdall wrote: What is the logic in a 25 ton cap? Are all chemical factories the same size? 25 tons for large factory might actually very

Re: [Biofuel] New EPA Rules

2006-04-04 Thread Mike McGinness
Robert, The quotation below reported to be from "John Walke" contains some inaccurate information. Specifically the statement says: "Take an oil refinery that 10 years ago polluted 100 tons of toxic air pollution," Walke says. "Due to the Clean Air Act, that refinery today will emit only five

Re: [Biofuel] acids

2006-04-04 Thread Johnathan Corgan
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: thsi is true that pool dealers mostly deal in muratic acid and not sulphuric. in my youth as a pool boy i have never seen sulphuric acid used in a pool. so it gets back to my problem of purchasing concentrated sulphuric acid since i am an individual and have no tax

Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Doctor Doom?!

2006-04-04 Thread Keith Addison
The overpopulation myth: Re: [Biofuel] Overpopulation Off Limits? http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/msg57949.html Good analysis: Human Population - Global Issues http://www.globalissues.org/EnvIssues/Population.asp Best Keith Well, by not doing anything about our

Re: [Biofuel] New EPA Rules

2006-04-04 Thread Keith Addison
Hi Robert It looks more like the Endangering Permission Agency . . . It's the Environment Prevention Agency, they're there to enforce the protections accorded to industry in terms of the Endangered Polluters Act. New-age Monopoly in the rock'n'rollback era, do not stop at Go, do not go to

Re: [Biofuel] acids

2006-04-04 Thread David Miller
Johnathan Corgan wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: thsi is true that pool dealers mostly deal in muratic acid and not sulphuric. in my youth as a pool boy i have never seen sulphuric acid used in a pool. so it gets back to my problem of purchasing concentrated sulphuric acid since i am

[Biofuel] Nice energy usage breakdow for a car

2006-04-04 Thread Tomas Juknevicius
Hi folks, news entry at green car congress article @ http://www.greencarcongress.com/2006/04/national_academ.html has some nice pictures with percentages of where the energy from the fuel burned in the car engine is spent. Or, use direct link:

Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Doctor Doom?!

2006-04-04 Thread Hakan Falk
This is stupid, because it assumes that the use of the world resources have a linear relationship to the world population. The reality is that it would have the same effect if we only got rid of the Americans and only around 300 million of them. This mirror the extreme imbalance in use of

Re: [Biofuel] acids

2006-04-04 Thread bob allen
try http://sciencestuff.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: thsi is true that pool dealers mostly deal in muratic acid and not sulphuric. in my youth as a pool boy i have never seen sulphuric acid used in a pool. so it gets back to my problem of purchasing concentrated sulphuric acid since i

Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Doctor Doom?!

2006-04-04 Thread Zeke Yewdall
Reduce the over utilization by the 20% of world population, will have the same effect and without killing anyone. Given how fiercely we (americans) defend our rediculous lifestyle, I wonder how many of the Americans who use an inordinate amount of resources would consider reducing their

Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Doctor Doom?!

2006-04-04 Thread Paul S Cantrell
Dr. Pianka says he would never advocate genocide or extermination like some suggest he does. UT Professor Clearing The Record On Speech http://www.kxan.com/Global/story.asp?S=4720390 On 4/4/06, Zeke Yewdall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Reduce the over utilization by the 20% of world population,

Re: [Biofuel] New EPA Rules

2006-04-04 Thread Appal Energy
E.P.A. - Environmental Pretention Agency Keith Addison wrote: Hi Robert It looks more like the Endangering Permission Agency . . . It's the Environment Prevention Agency, they're there to enforce the protections accorded to industry in terms of the Endangered Polluters Act.

Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Doctor Doom?!

2006-04-04 Thread Hakan Falk
LOL Zeke, Maybe you are right. -)) I only wanted to put the numbers on this and the light on the fact that it is not an linear and equal world. With the real numbers, Dr. Pianka's whole argument falls apart and it becomes difficult to understand what he want to say. Why would he want to so many

[Biofuel] Haha

2006-04-04 Thread Mike Weaver
Earlier today, in parts of the world, there was a total eclipse of the sun. President Bush said that the eclipse of the sun proves the unreliability of solar power. --David Letterman President Bush is in Mexico this week and while he's there, he's going to visit the ancient Mayan ruins.

[Biofuel] off-topic [Hydroponic gardening]

2006-04-04 Thread Evergreen Solutions
Just wondering if anyone out there is into hydroponics. I'm getting more into it myself, hoping to find a mentor w/ a little more experience. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org

Re: [Biofuel] acids

2006-04-04 Thread JJJN
David, The only place you are going to find 98% Acid is either a lab supply or a Chemical supply. In the United States there is a Hazmat charge and a Homeland Security charge as well. (at least where I shop commercially) It also runs about $100.00 a gallon at that grade. The Crap at the

Re: [Biofuel] Small oil press

2006-04-04 Thread JJJN
Hmm, That looks very much like my fat grinder, I wonder if a hamburger grinder with very small holes 1/6 would work? I will try it, would flax seed have enough oil for a test? Jim Keith Addison wrote: Hi all Jason sent me a nicely drawn graphic of how the PITEBA oilpress could work. It's

[Biofuel] Big Biodiesel creating a shortage of oil for me.

2006-04-04 Thread JJJN
Hello every one, I have a slight problem, The waste oil fellow that operates here has begun a very crafty business and has isolated my entire supply of fry oil. he threatened all his customers to go on a 1 year contract or he will pull his barrels. He also places in the contract that they

Re: [Biofuel] Big Biodiesel creating a shortage of oil for me.

2006-04-04 Thread Appal Energy
he threatened all his customers to go on a 1 year contract or he will pull his barrels. The smarter customers will let him pull them, put their own barrels in and start working with people like you. And they'd be damned fools to sign a one year unbreakable contract in the first place. Todd

Re: [Biofuel] Antarctic Air is Warming Faster Than Rest of World

2006-04-04 Thread I. S.
For those interested in climate change (one of the best reasons to promote sustainable agriculture, biofuels, and renewable electricity) take a look at http://www.realclimate.org very up to date with great analysis I. Peter Solem --- Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also:

Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Doctor Doom?!

2006-04-04 Thread Garth Kim Travis
Greetings, Actually a high population has always resulted in new lands being opened up. I have always figured that the over-population of Earth meant we would colonize the stars. Each time we have opened a new area we have grown in human rights for a short time, I hope that the move to the stars

Re: [Biofuel] Big Biodiesel creating a shortage of oil for me.

2006-04-04 Thread JJJN
I was quite surprised myself, when they said what they had done, but then when one considers I am just me and new as well and he has been hauling for years, they were afraid of the threat that it could be hard to get rid of the oil if something happened to me. I have one that said they would

Re: [Biofuel] Antarctic Air is Warming Faster Than Rest of World

2006-04-04 Thread JJJN
Hello I.S. , Thanks for the site I have booked marked it, I very much enjoyed the rebuttal of the Kiosk (meteor) effect paper mentioned earlier. It gives one a very even perspective and I don't think that anyone wastes time in being a good steward of the Earth. jim I. S. wrote: For those

Re: [Biofuel] Big Biodiesel creating a shortage of oil for me.

2006-04-04 Thread Mike Weaver
where is this? Appal Energy wrote: he threatened all his customers to go on a 1 year contract or he will pull his barrels. The smarter customers will let him pull them, put their own barrels in and start working with people like you. And they'd be damned fools to sign a one year

Re: [Biofuel] Big Biodiesel creating a shortage of oil for me.

2006-04-04 Thread Mike Weaver
Where are you? JJJN wrote: Hello every one, I have a slight problem, The waste oil fellow that operates here has begun a very crafty business and has isolated my entire supply of fry oil. he threatened all his customers to go on a 1 year contract or he will pull his barrels. He also

Re: [Biofuel] acids

2006-04-04 Thread Jason Katie
again with the taxes garbage. it is still considered an experimental fuel so it is not taxed. the same with ethanol, i checked, fuel grade ethanol falls under no tax but sales tax - Original Message - From: JJJN [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Tuesday, April 04,

Re: [Biofuel] New EPA Rules

2006-04-04 Thread Mike McGinness
Robert, My replies are below but first, let me say I see nothing wrong with raising the alarms about these kinds of changes in the regulations as you and others have done. They do need to watched closely and when such changes are made the results need to be measured to determine if they worked:

Re: [Biofuel] acids

2006-04-04 Thread Mike McGinness
I must be in the wrong business. How about I sell it to you for $50/ gallon all day long. Just kiding. We buy it in 93% and 98% grades in 55 gallon drums for about $6.00 gallon for pH control of waste water. Somebody is getting rich fast and its not me. LOL. Let's see $94/gallon profit at