Thought his legacy was already established well within the family? How can
so many be wrong? No body takes voting seriously, the majority it would
appear sleeps on.
www.conspiracyplanet.com
http://educate-yourself.org/cn/criminalsinaction29jun04.shtml
Doug.
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I think your caution is well-founded. Tyres were discussed on one of
the organic lists a while back and rejected because of cadmium
leaching. I'll try to find the details, but maybe I won't get that
far. Maybe they're okay for flowers, but do you want to have to
segregate bits of
I'm glad so see discussions about WVO (supply, sustainability and
big business) and methods for pressing your own oil. I always felt
that increasing competition for WVO in the future will make that
supply unsustainable. That along with the future availability of
methanol caused me to shift my
Mike, forget about tinkering with the voting system, it's not going to help.
Sometimes we win!! But if enough people are fed up with Bush and they vote
for the other people, all the gerrymandering in the world won't help them this
time.
WHAT other people? You mean the other Business Party?
I've been posting stuff on this here for months, so have a few
others, very few people have taken any notice.
It is utterly unbelievable that Americans, only now so belatedly
waking up with growing fury at how they were lied to and manipulated
on the road to the Iraq debacle are actually
A very quick check on the ground would dispel/raise thoughts.
1/ If more than 200 people that were regular workers in the towers and had
never had a day off sick etc for this particular day stayed home for any
reason. On past records they would never and had never had a day off etc?
2/ Was there
well Doug, at least you can spell if nothing else
Well, Terry, actually the list doesn't allow gratuitous insults.
Unless you can spell out just why you think Doug is not capable of
anything else you should apologise to him.
It seems that like most of us here he's able to figure it out for
If only we could get rid of
those blankety blank touchscreen machines made by Diebold, ESS, et.
al!
Or at least retrofit them with a voter
verifiable paper audit trail printed in non-disappearing ink.
Voters have to know that their vote won't
be switched over to someone else. Where I vote
Ya know, that does sound a
lot like Dubya. Wow.
Peace, D. Mindock
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Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2006 9:53
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professor's group accuses U.S.
I hear they are going to be reconvening the Warren Commission again. Spector is once again going to show that it was a single bullet that did the whole thing. They will have the theoretical physics to prove it too.On 10Apr, 2006, at 1:34 PM, D. Mindock wrote:Another unanswered question: why
Honestly, the only thing in Rock Island I ever really made a point of knowing about was a liquor store that had a good selection of imported beer.What really makes the QC special is that in 17 years of marriage, it's the only place I saw my wife really knock-down drunk. It was at a wine tasting
Guess there's always earthships:http://www.earthship.org/build/On 10Apr, 2006, at 2:13 PM, Keith Addison wrote:33 million tyres a year, which "tremendously outstrips" the demand for recycled rubber. ___
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This is not a good trend. It could lead to people's home being inspected for
all
sorts of things like illegal satellite receivers, drugs, eating organic meat
vs the
hormone and pesticide laden USDA meat, non-GMO food, etc. I've read that
sooner or later all cars will have black boxes which
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And slowly, oh ever so slowly they awake but awakening they are. Does time
give enough???
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From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 1:13 PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] [Fwd: [IP] Is
Cell phones can already be tracked by signal. Not sure it helps in a heart
attack but my phone tells where I am if asked. Cell phones can be used as
guidance to target.
Took an extra 2 or 3 years to get digital phones on the market as the boss
needed the ability to locate/listen before their
Keith,
Most (or enough) Americans are asleep or indifferent. If we had a real
mainstream media here, that
didn't screen out news unfavorable to the administration, especially the
bogus wars, things would never deteriorated to the low
level we have now. I hardly ever watch TV news and get my
Keith Addison wrote:
Hello Mike
Keith,
BIG SNIP
See what John Stauber has to say about the big enviro groups.
http://www.ratical.org/ratville/PRcorrupt.html
WAR ON TRUTH, The Secret Battle for the American Mind
You know,
There is a reason some of us scream shenanigans or foul
upon
Thanks Jason, Katie and Keith.The reason for my post had mostly to do with soil degradation. I was researching what crops gave the best yield for ethanol production and began looking at sugar beets as a possibility. However, the research suggests that root crops can't be planted every year
People have also got to quit voting for who ever puts on the best dog and pony show at election time. Democraps Republickends and the same fat cat, just a different color. We need to get independents, greens and others in. As long as we keep voting for corporate dupes we're dead.Scary but
What about the Pentagon?I have not seen any footage of a plane, no witnesses who saw a plane, no debris from a passenger plane or a manifest of passengers for the flight that was supposed to have crashedinto the Pentagon.The Warren Commission was a joke. However, if you simply move the
ARE the same fat cat.On 10Apr, 2006, at 9:06 PM, Gary L. Green wrote:People have also got to quit voting for who ever puts on the best dog and pony show at election time. Democraps Republickends and the same fat cat, just a different color. We need to get independents, greens and others in.
Michael Redler wrote:
Thanks Jason, Katie and Keith.
The reason for my post had mostly to do with soil degradation. I was
researching what crops gave the best yield for ethanol production and
began looking at sugar beets as a possibility. However, the research
suggests that root crops
Another unanswered question: why were the massive steel beams quickly
gathered up and
ship off for scrap? Is it because the beams might've shown that they were
torn apart by
If you have been down to ground Zero you will notice there is no room to
store the debris from a fraction of one
If it didn't work in the 60's with the same families at the helm why will it
work in Iran or Iraq??? 50 + million people sleeping??? Wake UP.
How's about private organization like this setting up an extra to elections
where people can actually say and confirm on a separate network who they
voted
Bull pucky, mate.
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/sbt.htm
Have a look. When you figure in the angle of the supposed snipers
nest there is just no way.
That dog don't hunt.
I collected a variety of Kennedy assassination information from so
many sources. Most of it destroyed when my hard drive
Hi David,Going by memory, I misquoted my own post from last year.http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/msg51322.htmlSugar beets and ethanol production: According to a page on http://www.green-trust.org, the estimate is 1200 gallons per acre of land and that the 800
Okeedokee.I'm not into putting a lot of energy into this argument. Suffice to say that I haven't seen a compelling argument tochange my opinion - even after visiting http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/sbt.htm.Mike "Gary L. Green" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bull pucky,
What about the oceans? I know that's not the same as hydroponics, but
they are a sustainable ecosystem which do not depend on soil. The
organic matter just floats around in the water. Now, I admit that
trying to bring it onto land, and grow something like tomatoes instead
of kelp, is not the
Doug,
I suppose there could be
some benefits of cell phone tracking. But it always seem that
privacy
has to be forked over.
Making your cell phone trackable should be a user
option, not mandatory. The
same for the black boxes in cars that allow tracking.
Everything is being done to
Keith,
Most (or enough) Americans are asleep or indifferent.
Don't believe it! We were discussing it here about a week ago.
If we had a real
mainstream media here, that
didn't screen out news unfavorable to the administration, especially the
bogus wars, things would never deteriorated to the
Mike, if you do it the cheap and easy way you can have biofuel
feedstock coming out all over the place a few times a year.
If you're going to focus on biofuels crops production and yields,
that's when it gets messy, and the soil depletion problem is the one
you won't solve. If you farm instead
Keith Addison wrote:
Hello Mike
Keith,
BIG SNIP
See what John Stauber has to say about the big enviro groups.
http://www.ratical.org/ratville/PRcorrupt.html
WAR ON TRUTH, The Secret Battle for the American Mind
You know,
There is a reason some of us scream shenanigans or foul
upon
Mike, et al:
Could you irrigate with wash water, as well? Wouldn't that just be
another form of returning all the by-product to the soil?
-Sean
On Mon, 2006-04-10 at 08:06 -0700, Michael Redler wrote:
Hi David,
Going by memory, I misquoted my own post from last year.
Michael Redler wrote:
Thanks Jason, Katie and Keith.
The reason for my post had mostly to do with soil degradation. I was
researching what crops gave the best yield for ethanol production and
began looking at sugar beets as a possibility. However, the research
suggests that root crops
from: Deborah Howard (I'm on the list)
I've been reading all the messages and thought I would comment on this one.
I'm a massage therapist at the biggest casino in the world consequently I
see people all over the world on a regular basis. A few weeks ago I was in
conversation with a woman in
Actually the plane was more correctly a giant incendiary device.
So the aircraft was not a massive explosive device?? Had no effect on the
structure at all??
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Basically the planes were not enough to do the collapse alone. They
needed help. WRT having to have the planes hit at the exact level
where there would be charges, not necessary. The upper few stories
wouldn't need any but maybe
I thought he said 800 gallons of ethanol per acre. But I don't know if
either one can yeild that much. I'd be interested to know.
However, Michael, perhaps you need 4 acres and rotate around so you can
have everything. I know, wishful thinking.
Cheers,
John
On 4/10/2006, David Miller [EMAIL
one acre of PV will produce enough electricity to run an electric car
roughly 1.5 million miles per year... Or alternatively, you could run
it 12,000 miles or so with about 300 square feet of PV.
On 4/10/06, John Mullan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I thought he said 800 gallons of ethanol per acre.
What about the oceans? I know that's not the same as hydroponics, but
they are a sustainable ecosystem which do not depend on soil. The
organic matter just floats around in the water. Now, I admit that
trying to bring it onto land, and grow something like tomatoes instead
of kelp, is not the
Zeke Yewdall wrote:
one acre of PV will produce enough electricity to run an electric car
roughly 1.5 million miles per year... Or alternatively, you could run
it 12,000 miles or so with about 300 square feet of PV.
Yeah, *but*
How sustainable are PV arrays?
As much as I like PVs, and i
Here's a diagram of the soilfood web:
http://www.magicsoil.com/SoilFood.htm
Soil Food Web
For anyone interested in soil life and sustainable growing Dr. Elaine
Ingham's Soil Foodweb site is filled with interest:
http://www.soilfoodweb.com/
Soil Foodweb, Inc.
Along with these:
I think the problem is that driving 12,000 miles per year is not
sustainable, no matter if you use PV, biofuels, whatever
On 4/10/06, Chip Mefford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Zeke Yewdall wrote:
one acre of PV will produce enough electricity to run an electric car
roughly 1.5 million miles
Zeke Yewdall wrote:
I think the problem is that driving 12,000 miles per year is not
sustainable, no matter if you use PV, biofuels, whatever
Of that I am not so sure.
there are a *LOT* of internal combustion engines
around. I mean a *LOT* of them. And they
are pretty broadly deployed
According to our Commander in Thief., e hehhh he, I mean
Chief, It's all wild speculation. He used those words today when
referring to the article that ran some renowned rag this weekend.
Oddly enough, wild speculation doesn't mean something isn't true. A
lot of people have
ok, take ye auld oversimlification and use the 800 Gal/acre and then
consider taking 5 acres to farm by rotation. one for pasture, one for fuel
and the other three for restructuring (nitrogen, compost, hay, etc.) you
could have the four year rotation, and never have a dry year as far as fuel
Hello All,
I have many 4.5
gal (17.7L) cubies full ofthe glycerine coproduct. I've begun the
task ofsplitting it. I would appreciate comments on my initial
results.
The oil I use titrates between 1.0 and
1.5g/L. Rough calculations lead me to believe that I would need at least a Liter
of
I agree but isn't it a case where they are Green-er than a nuke plant or a coal fired power plant?Is there somewhere where someone had compared the pollutants from PV mfgr and say 10 years of pollution from an electric plant for one house?Thanks.On 11Apr, 2006, at 3:17 AM, Chip Mefford wrote:As
Well, I really appreciate all the responses to my post. However, I'm still at a loss as to what I can do, given only one acre of land and the need for a productive crop rotation from the same piece of land every year.So far, I saw one post that questioned whether you need crop rotation at all
I stumbled across this (for what it's worth):http://www.haywired.com/microfarm/My_Links_Pages/biomass_crops_01.htmlMikeKeith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Michael Redler wrote: Thanks Jason, Katie and Keith. The reason for my post had mostly to do with soil degradation. I was
On Apr 10, 2006, at 4:42 PM, Thomas Kelly wrote:The oil I use titrates between 1.0 and 1.5g/L. That's pretty clean oil -- should only have maybe11g of FFA per liter, which will need about 5g (3ml)of 85% H3PO4 (per liter oil) to separate. Sounds likeyou're using about 300X too much phosphoric
I recently scored 14 (!!!) 55g drums of new canola oil for free. I am
processing it into biodiesel and I'm running out of storage. Can I put
biodiesel back into a 55g drum that housed new canola oil? I emptied
the drums pretty well but there is still probably a pint to a quart of
oil in the bottom
I've recently acquired through inheritance about 20 acres of farm land
in rural Philippines. It's currently being used for rice and I think
some tobacco. My wife's extended family works the land and the
operation has now passed into our hands.
Being a professional engineer and California-based
in the foolproof method, as defined on the JTF web site, it is stated
to use 95% sulphuric acid. This is hard to get these days for an
individual and somewhat costly. however there is an old fashioned drain
cleaner whose MSDS reports is 93% sulphuric acid. oddly enough anybody
can buy gallons
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the drums should be fine, and I wouldn't sweat a pint or two of oil in 55
gallons of bio-D.
james demer wrote:
I recently scored 14 (!!!) 55g drums of new canola oil for free. I am
processing it into biodiesel and I'm running out of storage. Can I put
biodiesel back into a 55g drum that
Sticky/Glutinous rice from the fields makes real good ethanol. If used with
and injection of 15 to 20% water it produces much more energy in a tuned
engine to the fuel water mix than gas. Why the need to go to other
Bio-Fuels? The Ethanol with the water injection would be sufficient to run
It should. Hopefully the other 7% is only water. Worth a try.
Todd Swearingen
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in the foolproof method, as defined on the JTF web site, it is stated
to use 95% sulphuric acid. This is hard to get these days for an
individual and somewhat costly. however there is an
Forgot. You'll definitely want to pull off the liquid phase that settles
out of the esterification if using such an acid purity. You wouldn't be
sending much water over to the base side. But why include that variable
if you can avoid it?
Todd Swearingen
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in the
If you're really picky/concerned, rinse the drum out with a half-gallon
of biodiesel. Take the oil/biodiesel rinse from all fourteen drums and
mix that in with your last batch of oil to be turned into biodiesel.
Or don't. Your engine won't notice any difference between straight bio
and bio
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Thomas,
You shouldn't need but between 1.5 and 1.75 gallons of 85% phosphoric
for every 50 gallons of glyc cocktail that is derived from 1.5 gram
titrated oil.
That would work out to be approximately 0.135 to 0.157 gallons per cube,
or 510 to 595 mililiters per cube.
I guess the question is
I have my oil burner running on BD100. I would like to add the FFA from
the split ... probably 5 - 10%. Any problems anticipated w. this?
Will it
stay dissolved in the BD or separate out?
It will stay dissolved. You'll also find the FFAs are only slightly
more viscous than the
Michael,
Did you know a structure with wood support beams will maintain integrity
longer in a fire than one of steel? This is true due to steels complete
failure at a given temp where wood must be consumed to a failure point,
thus taking longer.
My bit of trivia, thanks for the posted site it
We made most of our ethanol out of rice. We added 20% water
and drove our car and truck on it with excellent results.
Marilyn
Biofuel@sustainablelists.org wrote:
Sticky/Glutinous rice from the fields makes real good ethanol. If
used with
and injection of 15 to 20% water it produces much more
Hi Keith,
I hope you are right about Americans. Are enough of them agitating
Congress
so that some action will be taken that will rid us of the Dumb-Duo? Geez,
it'd
be so nice. (Maybe you see things more clearly from Tokyo.) Or at least
take back the war making powers they so generously gave
Doug
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We made most of our ethanol out of rice. We added 20% water
and drove our car and truck on it with excellent results.
Try it, then you can tell us. Lol.
But seriously though, I would guess that the extra 2% is most likely either
water or a gelling agent to make it thicker and stickier. Water will give
you some extra soap in your wash, not sure what a gelling agent might do. I
would suggest investing your two
How's about all dropping shares/stocks in oil and related products/goods,
just dumping them and investing in gold?
1976 -1977 Gettie oil was in Nabalek/Ranger uranium mining/surveying in
Australia, now Iran has the stuff, all in the same basket them bods. Get rid
of the oil and shares go into
We made most of our ethanol out of rice. We added 20% water
and drove our car and truck on it with excellent results.
Marilyn
Ethanol makes a total change to emissions from the exhaust in
smell, like it is not too unpleasant to breath while the engine is
running. No real need to go to the
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