Gandhi I've only got a passing familiarity with, even though he seems to be referred to as the father of non-violent protest.Maybe he was perfect and maybe his followers were never incited to riot or to violence. If so, then in this case I'm wrong. I hope I'm wrong. I'd like to be wrong. I
On 14 Apr 2006, at 11:05, Appal Energy wrote:
Whenever MLK came to town you knew you either gave him what
he wanted or you would have violence on your hands.
Violence at who's initiation?
snip
Something about having a foot in the middle of your back just doesn't
cotton too well towards
Hi Gary,
Peaceful protests are seen by folks on the street. So there is a positive
effect. The media tends to downgrade the number of
protesters if it mentions them at all. If protests get really big, over
100,000 people, I can't see
how they can't be covered. If there is police action
Hi Gary,
Two Kennedys were killed. Bobby was a fiery politician who would've
shaken things up
too much. Some member(s) of the shadow gov decided he couldn't become
prez. He was well on his way when Sirhan Sirhan shot him in California. I
had seen Bobby
speak at the Univ of Washington,
Yo Gary,
I think your idea of totally
peaceful revolution is nice butunrealistic. Clashes of
people who have opposite strivings are
inevitable. Thoughtslead toemotion which in turn
action.. Opposite thinking leads to
oppossing emotions which easily can lead to fights.
Mobs can be incited to
Gary L. Green wrote:
Just to be sure you're That kind of person. I'm one too.
Never forget my introduction to Zappa. In my teen years listening to
the college radio station, someone had the cajones to play Dinah-Mo-
Hum. I was hooked.
The cover art will keep a stonie entertained for
Hallo,
Thank you. I am always up for good stuff I haven't heard. I had the
good fortune to be born into a family which loved music. I lived the
better part of my life with my grandparents (Opa born 1898 Oma 1904)
and I grew up listening to their oldies on cylinder records. Then I
got
On 14 Apr 2006, at 15:45, D. Mindock wrote:
We could make progress in the way of gettinga true representative
government if:
we had a true watchguard media.
When, I think it was during the Regan era, they pushed through
legislation that allowed the media to be owned by only a few
Okay, let's take this in chunks.
Not okay:
Why not answer the rest of the question Gary? It went like this:
snippetysnippetysnip...
Snipping's supposed to remove previous irrelevant matter to save
space. But you're a compulsive snipper, and not to save space. Then
the chunks you're left with
Hi Bruno
We've been sneering at them for years about this. A couple of years
ago I was told some people in US universities were beginning to
wonder if maybe there might be a possibility of using the corn oil to
make biodiesel instead of just wasting it. I suppose these things
take time.
Hi again Jesse
snip
(Off-topic??? Grrr!) Sure, just as long as you're blithe about it.
I see your Grrr! What, the care and future of the planet is not off-topic,
eh? Good point. I guess I was confining my thinking to the Title.
Well, that too.
snip
Balance of idealism and practicality
Some of my friends here in India (who know more about agriculture
than I do) would have me believe that traditionally castor oilseed
cakes are allowed to decompose by soaking in a little water for a
couple of weeks and then put back into the soil as fertilizer (same
as done with mustard
Greetings,
An interesting piece on democracy, slanted to say the least.
Bright Blessings,
Kim
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Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 7:52 PM
Subject: Life span of the republic
And for you purists
out there I included the snopes.com url, they have checked this same
email
Howdy Gustl
Hallo Jesse,
Hey dere! So how's by you, eh? Well, I know a fellow named Mark who
used to live in Manchester, Michigan.
Wednesday, 12 April, 2006, 18:00:11, you wrote:
mm Hi Gustl, Mike,
mm No one ever answers my posts (except Keith, our hero), so I can
mm blithely write on
related
Squeezing Every Drop of Ethanol From Corn
http://www.alternate-energy.net/N/news.php?detail=n1141936056.news
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From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Oil AND Ethanol out of Corn
Sent: 14 Apr '06 12:13
Hi Bruno
LOL!What will they do when they encounter the likes of you?People are products of their environment so, perhaps they'll develop a conscience, eh?Mike "Gary L. Green" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Damn! Be quiet man. That's my retirement strategy.On 13 Apr 2006, at 22:26, Michael Redler
I have to agreethat social change does not happen with peaceful protests. The people benefiting from the imbalance that causes peaceful protests won't let go so easily (especially when they pay someone to fight their battles).The fight ends up being between the only two forms of power that
Gary,
It sure would be appreciated if you would substantiate some of your
claims. You imply in an almost sweeping manner that the marchers are the
ones who provoke and instigate riotous behavior.
Seems as if you're almost oblivious to the provocative actions of
constabularies and misfits of
I was in New York City on the second anniversary of the invasion in Iraq. There was a sea of people that stretched for as far as one could see. The estimates were around 80,000.80,000loud and angry protestors and it barely made the news!Mike"D. Mindock" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi
Gary Green,
All I can say is that you're one twisted puppy, or at least you're
dedicated to that direction.
A peaceful march that gets dogs, battans and boots set upon them is not
something that can be honestly be blamed as causal. But you choose to do
so, decidedly noting that the bee was
I tend to stay away from galvanized - stick it in the sun.
Andrew Leven wrote:
Hi ,
I just finished bubblewashing a 30L batch of bio but it is still cloudy.
I have a galvanized tank from an old jet pump setup that is ported
ideally for plumbing and adding a heating element. I want to use it
Whenever MLK came to town you knew you either gave him whathe wanted or you
would have violence on your hands.
Hogwash. MLK advocated non-violence. But, MLK was not in charge of every
element of the Civil Rights movement.
He was a leader to many, but not a commander to all. If some members of
Kim
Did you even look at the snopes reference yourself? It's hard to
believe you did and still posted this. Snopes doesn't confirm a lot
of it as Rick claims. It's not slanted, it's just a pack of lies,
and it's about five and a half years past its use-by date.
I have to agree that social change does not happen with peaceful protests.
Social change does not ONLY happen with peaceful protest. And
peaceful protest does most certainly happen.
The people benefiting from the imbalance that causes peaceful
protests won't let go so easily (especially when
Hello Keith,
I am having trouble to find pressure stove suitable
for BD.
I have browsed through the links from JTF with
little sucess.
The PETROMAX is quite expensive and is out of stock
anyway.
others I find come with wick which you say is not
working with BD
On JTF website you write
I have been keeping track of the BD I am burning in my car - it's not
much - does anyone know how to pay the sales tax due?
-Mike
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Hi Andrew
Hi ,
I just finished bubblewashing a 30L batch of bio but it is still cloudy.
If it doesn't clear on its own in a couple of days you'll have to
wash it more and it might indicate a completion problem.
Please see Bubble washing:
Hello Andrés
Hello Keith,
I am having trouble to find pressure stove suitable for BD.
I have browsed through the links from JTF with little sucess.
The PETROMAX is quite expensive and is out of stock anyway.
others I find come with wick which you say is not working with BD
Not as-is anyway.
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Subject:[just_biodiesel] California residents: SB1511 hearing on the
18th you can write to the committee
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 10:03:03 -0700 (PDT)
From: K Lemons [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Eric Bowen [EMAIL
I have a PetroMax and have had no luck w/ BD. I am not sure if it is
the stove or not - I cleaned it and tried petro diesel with no luck,
then ISO and got an ok flame.
I will try again now that things are warm.
FWIW, I never was able to get a flame at all w/ diesel BD or otherwise
w/o
Just wondering how many UK home brewers are on this mailing list.
Please make yourselves known, especially if you are interested in forming a
buyers cooperative to get bulk discounts on chemicals, plant, feedstock,
glycerol disposal etc. I am even volunteering to do most of the donkey work.
I understand that lubricity has to do with the ability of the oil to
maintain a lubricating film under pressure.
Viscosity has to do with how readily the oil flows.
They are not related.
An early detailed study of the properties of lubricants was done by
Ricardo Engineering for the British Air
Howdy Mike,
I once contacted the tax folks in Arkansas about this issue and they
basically said go away. They have no mechanism for collecting road
taxes in Arkansas for non-traditional fuels. And until there is
evidence for enough tax collection to justify the salary and benefits
for a
Thank you - I was wondering about federal taxes
bob allen wrote:
Howdy Mike,
I once contacted the tax folks in Arkansas about this issue and they
basically said go away. They have no mechanism for collecting road
taxes in Arkansas for non-traditional fuels. And until there is
SB1511 is a emergency bill being brought before the transportation
commitee on the 18th go here and read the amended text.
http://www.aroundthecapitol.com/Bills/SB_1511
This bill covers both ethanol and biodiesel. It is forcing the ARB
to act in relation to this bills passage. The ARB has
Should be noted that Petromax is now a generic name for that type
of lantern, with quite wide variations available, all called
Petromax. BriteLyt makes the original. Their stove is a newer
patented design, not generic.
I have a PetroMax and have had no luck w/ BD. I am not sure if it is
the
Keith Addison wrote:
Okay, let's take this in chunks.
Not okay:
Why not answer the rest of the question Gary? It went like this:
snippetysnippetysnip...
Snipping's supposed to remove previous irrelevant matter to save
space. But you're a compulsive snipper, and not to save
Just wondering how many UK home brewers are on this mailing list.
Please make yourselves known, especially if you are interested in forming a
buyers cooperative to get bulk discounts on chemicals, plant, feedstock,
glycerol disposal etc. I am even volunteering to do most of the donkey work.
Cheers
Keith,Thanks for correcting my sentence, missing the word "only". Yep, peaceful protests do happen and I didn't articulate that very clearly. Kinda funny since I participate in them from time to time.MikeKeith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:I have to agree that social change does not
Gary
Okay, let's take this in chunks.
Okay, let's take this recent chunk then, from Peter Solem:
Today on the University of California, Santa Cruz campus, an
organized group of student protestors succeded in shutting down the
campus job fair until the military recruiters were forced to
Andrew,
I do know that the zinc (Galvanizing) will rapidly dissolve in mild
caustic or acid. It may be safe enough for clarifier use if the entire
solution is between a pH of about 6 to 9, but I would use extreme
caution as any unreacted acid or base will dissolve the zinc and
contaminate the
Since "peaceful demonstrations" have been a lively topic lately, here's what's happening in my neck of the woods.I'll let you know how it turns out.MikeNaveen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To: Chris T [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED], Al-Awda-CT [EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL
It's been here all along. They just changed the US name to the Golf
(just like it was from the beginning in europe) for a while.
Although I can see why the name turns people off -- I actually own one
that was sold as a golf, but I always call it a rabbit because I don't
like golf...
On
Hallo Mike,
Well, Toledo, Ohio is close enough to me to call it my neck of the
woods. Oddly enough so are Detroit, Ann Arbor and Lansing, Michigan.
The Nazis came to Toledo and applied for their permit and held their
rally and the people who didn't like the Nazis attacked them and gave
Another reactivity question; how about sweated
[lead free solder}copper piping and brass valves for plumbing on a processor
?
Thanks for all the info
Andrew Leven
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Senator Ducheny, the chairperson of the of the Senate Trans Committee, is an intelligent and caring person. I have worked with her on previous occasions trying to make meaningfull changes to the smog check program. My call to her is as yet unanswered, but I am sure she has home brewers interests
Speaking of peaceful protests we have just had nearly 2 weeks of massive
peaceful protests here in the USA by people protesting the proposed new
immigration laws in the US Congress that would have instantly made felons out of
over 10 million (based on current estimates) illegal US immigrants
Mike,
I would ask the state comptroller first for the state you live in. Here are 2
links for the state of Texas (where I live and know how to easily find the
answer):
http://www.window.state.tx.us/taxinfo/fuels/biodiesel.pdf
http://www.window.state.tx.us/
It seems from the first link above
There is an expression I love .. If you want more drugs on the street, by
all means, declare war on drugs
.. energy matches energy .. and in this case I would plan to not show up and
I would do everything in my power to let everyone know to not show up.
.. perhaps an idea would be to have a
Just read that all the US refiners are going to stop using MTBE as a gas
additive in 4 weeks, reportedly because the US Congress will not pass a
bill stopping, or mitigating MTBE ground water contamination law suits.
The only replacement for MTBE is ethanol and there is not and will not
be enough
Greetings Doug,
You said,
They are not related.
This may be true sometimes (1), but I think there is some kind of relationship
between the two, but it may not be easy, or simple to explain. I found an
excellent online reference on lubrication, friction and viscosity here:
I have secured a small bit of hydrogenated Canola Oil. It reminds me of
shortening but more liquid.
Would this be good stuff to make Bio out of ?
JIM
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Another reactivity question; how about sweated [lead free
solder}copper piping and brass valves for plumbing on a processor ?
Thanks for all the info
Andrew Leven
Copper and SVO: I'm not so worried about the copper but what the
copper does to the fuel. Did you ever check what happened to your
I have secured a small bit of hydrogenated Canola Oil. It reminds me of
shortening but more liquid.
Would this be good stuff to make Bio out of ?
JIM
Hydrogenated oil, shortening, margarine
http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_yield.html#short
Marilynn,
You are totally correct. That which we fear and dwell upon will come to
pass.
Hate groups know this and use it as a lever to increase their numbers.
The idea of a peaceful rally/party on the other side of town is right
on.
It won't get much coverage but the good vibes created
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