[Biofuel] Old Peugeots
Hi all, I have just acquired an old 1991 Peugeot 405 turbodiesel. Does anyone have any experience of how long the fuel lines and pump sealsmay last if I run B100 ? Also anyone know of a UK supplier for viton seal kits? Cheers, Bob ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] These dam greenies are everywhere......
Howdy folks, if you read the analysis at Snopes, you'll discover the the Michigan authorities are not quite as stupid as seems, nor the land owner so innocent. I would be pi**ed off too if an adjacent land owner started messing with my land. The letter concerned an enforcement action directed to a tenant on property surrounding Spring Pond, which is located in Pierson Township, Montcalm County, Michigan. The tenant was observed by the downstream complainant, and has since admitted to the complainant, that he artificially built up, and maintained two abandoned beaver dams on the discharge end of the natural pond. Such an activity falls under the jurisdiction of Part 301, Inland Lakes and Streams, of the Natural Resources and Environmental Protection Act, 1194 PA 451, as amended. It is the Department's position that in the absence of any threat to public welfare, beaver dams should be left in their natural state, that being either actively maintained or abandoned by beaver. Keith Addison wrote: Hello Bob Hi All, This can't be an urban myth, because it didn't take place in the city. Right? Decide for yourself. Not at all, just check snopes:: http://www.snopes.com/humor/letters/dammed.htm Urban Legends Reference Pages: Humor (Dammed Beavers!) Nice piece, been doing the rounds for eight years. Dammed Beavers, it says, not dam greenies, no mention of greenies. Where did your Check your backyard, these dam greenies are everywhere headline come from, if I might ask? It's quite often been used by libertarian etc people as a sneer at Big Government, but they often attack greenies too (econazis). Best Keith Bob. Check your backyard, these dam greenies are everywhere. SUBJECT: DEQ File No.97-59-0023; T11N; R10W, Sec. 20; Lycoming County Dear Mr. DeVries: It has come to the attention of the Department of Environmental Quality that there has been recent unauthorized activity on the above referenced parcel of property. You have been certified as the legal landowner and/or contractor who did the following unauthorized activity: Construction and maintenance of two wood debris dams across the outlet stream of Spring Pond. A permit must be issued prior to the start of this type of activity. A review of the Department's files shows that no permits have been issued. Therefore, the Department has determined that this activity is in violation of Part 301, Inland Lakes and Streams, of the Natural Resource and Environmental Protection Act, Act 451 of the Public Acts of 1994, being sections 324.30101 to 324.30113 of the Pennsylvania Compiled Laws, annotated.! The Department has been informed that one or both of the dams partially failed during a recent rain event, causing debris and flooding at downstream locations. We find that dams of this nature are inherently hazardous and cannot be permitted. The Department therefore orders you to cease and desist all activities at this location, and to restore the stream to a free-flow condition by removing all wood and brush forming the dams from the stream channel. All restoration work shall be completed no later than January 31, 2006. Please notify this office when the restoration has been completed so that a follow-up site inspection may be scheduled by our staff. Failure to comply with this request or any further unauthorized activity on the site may result in this case being referred for elevated enforcement action.. We anticipate and would appreciate your full cooperation in this matter. Please feel free to contact me at this office if you have any questions. Sincerely, David L. Price District Representative and Water Management Division. Ryan's response: Re: DEQ File No. 97-59-0023; T11N; R10W, Sec. 20; Lycoming County Dear Mr. Price, Your certified letter dated 5/17/06 has been handed to me to respond to. I am the legal landowner but not the Contractor at 2088 Dagget Lane, Trout Run, Pennsylvania. A couple of beavers are in the (State unauthorized) process of constructing and maintaining two wood debris dams across the outlet stream of my Spring Pond. While I did not pay for, authorize, nor supervise their dam project, I think they would be highly offended that you call their skillful use of natures building materials debris. I would like to challenge your department to attempt to emulate their dam project any time and/or any place you choose. I believe I can safely state there is no way you could ever match their dam skills, their dam resourcefulness, their dam ingenuity, their dam persistence, their dam determination and/or their dam work ethic. As to your request, I do not think the beavers are aware that they must first fill out a dam permit prior to the start of this type of dam activity. My first dam question to you is: (1) Are you trying to discriminate against my Spring Pond Beavers.
Re: [Biofuel] Sweden how they do it
Hello Lugano et al. As a Swedish native I can provide a more detailed and personal picture of the possibilities of oil independence of this country. There are a number of buts: - The power companies are not allowed to increase the share of electricity coming from hydropower sources, because thereis environmental, nature-protecting legislation. So, in order to become more independent of oil, we just have to trust that the 11 nuclear power plants running, will keep on to do so without serious accidents or other side effects. - Biodiesel has never been a popular product within any administration in this country. This is probably because biodiesel production can be performed in small scale. The administrative favourite product, ethanol, is a typical large scale product, which complies more with the industrial traditions of this country. One can even suspect that there is an attitude proclaiming that it is bad enough letting the farmers be in control of the food production. Things would get even worse if the farmers were in control of the energy production as well. - The petroleum supplies to this country have mainly been coming from the North Sea for a number of decades now, provided nominally by Norwegian and British companies. But the northernAtlantic production has already passed its peak, making changes necessary in order not to be totally depending upon oil from Russia and the middle east, which can be considered asa tooadventurous project. - The result of next election can very well over-throw the ambition of oil independence, since the right-liberal-centre coalition aiming for office, doesn´t have this target on the agenda. - The automotive industry, not only the Swedish, has to acknowledge and accept the goal. So far nothing along this line has been proclaimed from the industry. In such a small export-depending country as Sweden, the automotive industry is very power-ful, and used to havingits way. Jan Warnqvist + 46 554 201 89+46 70 499 38 45 - Original Message - From: Lugano Wilson To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2006 1:52 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Sweden how they do it Yes, Sweden is well commited to renewabel energy as part of energy security and environmental considerations. it is projected that in 2010 about 51% of of its electricity will be produced from renewable sources. this is supported by existing huge hydropower sources and strong commitment to bioenergy. renewable electricity like bioenergy, wind, solar, etc. are currently growing in sharing the supply scheme due to existing legislation on certification scheme. further to this, the transport sector has been targetted for increased efficiency and utilization of renewable energy like ethanol and biodiesel through taxation that based on annual vehicle pollution (emitted CO2) and not the conventional taxation that based on either weight, size, utilization, etc. the whole of this development is guided by strong policies that are spearheading research, development and utilization. follow the following links for: 1: electricity for renewable sources http://ec.europa.eu/energy/res/publications/index_en.htm 2: green vehicles http://www.gronabilister.se/public/dokument.php?art=272 have a nice week end. Lugano Mark` Cookson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hellow every one I was listening to the radio this afternoon here int the UK and a programme come on called Costing the Earth. Its subject was how Sweden are changing away from fossil fuels.I found it very interesting as you may.Follow the link here then go down the left of the page to [Listen to the latest programme link] hey presto!!!http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/science/costingtheearth.shtmlGood luckMark___Biofuel mailing listBiofuel@sustainablelists.orghttp://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.orgBiofuel at Journey to Forever:http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.htmlSearch the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages):http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/..Division of Energy and Furnace Technology,Department of Materials Science and Engineering,Royal Institute of Technology (KTH),Brinellvägen 23,SE 100 44 Stockholm,Sweden.[EMAIL PROTECTED]Tel. 0046 8 205 204Fax: 0046 8 207 681.. Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. MailScanner has detected a possible fraud attempt from "us.rd.yahoo.com" claiming to be Great rates starting at 1¢/min. ___Biofuel mailing listBiofuel@sustainablelists.orghttp://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.orgBiofuel at Journey to
Re: [Biofuel] Sweden how they do it
Hello Lugano et al. As a Swedish native I can provide a more detailed and personal picture of the possibilities of oil independence of this country. There are a number of buts: - The power companies are not allowed to increase the share of electricity coming from hydropower sources, because thereis environmental, nature-protecting legislation. So, in order to become more independent of oil, we just have to trust that the 11 nuclear power plants running, will keep on to do so without serious accidents or other side effects. - Biodiesel has never been a popular product within any administration in this country. This is probably because biodiesel production can be performed in small scale. The administrative favourite product, ethanol, is a typical large scale product, which complies more with the industrial traditions of this country. One can even suspect that there is an attitude proclaiming that it is bad enough letting the farmers be in control of the food production. Things would get even worse if the farmers were in control of the energy production as well. - The petroleum supplies to this country have mainly been coming from the North Sea for a number of decades now, provided nominally by Norwegian and British companies. But the northernAtlantic production has already passed its peak, making changes necessary in order not to be totally depending upon oil from Russia and the middle east, which can be considered asa tooadventurous project. - The result of next election can very well over-throw the ambition of oil independence, since the right-liberal-centre coalition aiming for office, doesn´t have this target on the agenda. - The automotive industry, not only the Swedish, has to acknowledge and accept the goal. So far nothing along this line has been proclaimed from the industry. In such a small export-depending country as Sweden, the automotive industry is very power-ful, and used to havingits way. Jan Warnqvist + 46 554 201 89+46 70 499 38 45 - Original Message - From: Lugano Wilson To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2006 1:52 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Sweden how they do it Yes, Sweden is well commited to renewabel energy as part of energy security and environmental considerations. it is projected that in 2010 about 51% of of its electricity will be produced from renewable sources. this is supported by existing huge hydropower sources and strong commitment to bioenergy. renewable electricity like bioenergy, wind, solar, etc. are currently growing in sharing the supply scheme due to existing legislation on certification scheme. further to this, the transport sector has been targetted for increased efficiency and utilization of renewable energy like ethanol and biodiesel through taxation that based on annual vehicle pollution (emitted CO2) and not the conventional taxation that based on either weight, size, utilization, etc. the whole of this development is guided by strong policies that are spearheading research, development and utilization. follow the following links for: 1: electricity for renewable sources http://ec.europa.eu/energy/res/publications/index_en.htm 2: green vehicles http://www.gronabilister.se/public/dokument.php?art=272 have a nice week end. Lugano Mark` Cookson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hellow every one I was listening to the radio this afternoon here int the UK and a programme come on called Costing the Earth. Its subject was how Sweden are changing away from fossil fuels.I found it very interesting as you may.Follow the link here then go down the left of the page to [Listen to the latest programme link] hey presto!!!http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/science/costingtheearth.shtmlGood luckMark___Biofuel mailing listBiofuel@sustainablelists.orghttp://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.orgBiofuel at Journey to Forever:http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.htmlSearch the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages):http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/..Division of Energy and Furnace Technology,Department of Materials Science and Engineering,Royal Institute of Technology (KTH),Brinellvägen 23,SE 100 44 Stockholm,Sweden.[EMAIL PROTECTED]Tel. 0046 8 205 204Fax: 0046 8 207 681.. Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. MailScanner has detected a possible fraud attempt from "us.rd.yahoo.com" claiming to be Great rates starting at 1¢/min. ___Biofuel mailing listBiofuel@sustainablelists.orghttp://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.orgBiofuel at Journey to
Re: [Biofuel] These dam greenies are everywhere......
Uh oh, I have a 9' tall foot abandonded Osprey nest I've been maintaning for several years now - I wonder if it'll get me in trouble? bob allen wrote: Howdy folks, if you read the analysis at Snopes, you'll discover the the Michigan authorities are not quite as stupid as seems, nor the land owner so innocent. I would be pi**ed off too if an adjacent land owner started messing with my land. The letter concerned an enforcement action directed to a tenant on property surrounding Spring Pond, which is located in Pierson Township, Montcalm County, Michigan. The tenant was observed by the downstream complainant, and has since admitted to the complainant, that he artificially built up, and maintained two abandoned beaver dams on the discharge end of the natural pond. Such an activity falls under the jurisdiction of Part 301, Inland Lakes and Streams, of the Natural Resources and Environmental Protection Act, 1194 PA 451, as amended. It is the Department's position that in the absence of any threat to public welfare, beaver dams should be left in their natural state, that being either actively maintained or abandoned by beaver. Keith Addison wrote: Hello Bob Hi All, This can't be an urban myth, because it didn't take place in the city. Right? Decide for yourself. Not at all, just check snopes:: http://www.snopes.com/humor/letters/dammed.htm Urban Legends Reference Pages: Humor (Dammed Beavers!) Nice piece, been doing the rounds for eight years. Dammed Beavers, it says, not dam greenies, no mention of greenies. Where did your Check your backyard, these dam greenies are everywhere headline come from, if I might ask? It's quite often been used by libertarian etc people as a sneer at Big Government, but they often attack greenies too (econazis). Best Keith Bob. Check your backyard, these dam greenies are everywhere. SUBJECT: DEQ File No.97-59-0023; T11N; R10W, Sec. 20; Lycoming County Dear Mr. DeVries: It has come to the attention of the Department of Environmental Quality that there has been recent unauthorized activity on the above referenced parcel of property. You have been certified as the legal landowner and/or contractor who did the following unauthorized activity: Construction and maintenance of two wood debris dams across the outlet stream of Spring Pond. A permit must be issued prior to the start of this type of activity. A review of the Department's files shows that no permits have been issued. Therefore, the Department has determined that this activity is in violation of Part 301, Inland Lakes and Streams, of the Natural Resource and Environmental Protection Act, Act 451 of the Public Acts of 1994, being sections 324.30101 to 324.30113 of the Pennsylvania Compiled Laws, annotated.! The Department has been informed that one or both of the dams partially failed during a recent rain event, causing debris and flooding at downstream locations. We find that dams of this nature are inherently hazardous and cannot be permitted. The Department therefore orders you to cease and desist all activities at this location, and to restore the stream to a free-flow condition by removing all wood and brush forming the dams from the stream channel. All restoration work shall be completed no later than January 31, 2006. Please notify this office when the restoration has been completed so that a follow-up site inspection may be scheduled by our staff. Failure to comply with this request or any further unauthorized activity on the site may result in this case being referred for elevated enforcement action.. We anticipate and would appreciate your full cooperation in this matter. Please feel free to contact me at this office if you have any questions. Sincerely, David L. Price District Representative and Water Management Division. Ryan's response: Re: DEQ File No. 97-59-0023; T11N; R10W, Sec. 20; Lycoming County Dear Mr. Price, Your certified letter dated 5/17/06 has been handed to me to respond to. I am the legal landowner but not the Contractor at 2088 Dagget Lane, Trout Run, Pennsylvania. A couple of beavers are in the (State unauthorized) process of constructing and maintaining two wood debris dams across the outlet stream of my Spring Pond. While I did not pay for, authorize, nor supervise their dam project, I think they would be highly offended that you call their skillful use of natures building materials debris. I would like to challenge your department to attempt to emulate their dam project any time and/or any place you choose. I believe I can safely state there is no way you could ever match their dam skills, their dam resourcefulness, their dam ingenuity, their dam persistence, their dam determination and/or their dam work ethic. As to your request, I do not think the beavers are aware that they must first fill out a dam permit prior to the start of this type of dam activity. My
[Biofuel] Conference on Biofuels finance
I'm new to this list, but wanted to let you know there was a very small article in the Des Moines (Iowa) Register this morning announcing a Biofuels Financial Conference to be held in Des Moines this Thursday and Friday. Was curious if any list members would be in attendance? Briefly, it states this is the 2nd annual conference and will cover issues on securities regulations, compliance, computer networking and information technology administration, financial audit preparation, Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and firearms reporting and compliance, accounting, policies.and on and on. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Old Peugeots
Hey Bob, Why don't you cut just an inch or two of the fuel line and drop in B100 to see if it damages the mentioned parts or not. That way you might not need to change them. Emre ELMAS Mobile: +90 533 517 72 45 From: Bob Carr [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: [Biofuel] Old Peugeots Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2006 13:43:28 +0100 Hi all, I have just acquired an old 1991 Peugeot 405 turbodiesel. Does anyone have any experience of how long the fuel lines and pump seals may last if I run B100 ? Also anyone know of a UK supplier for viton seal kits? Cheers, Bob ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ _ Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee® Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Sweden how they do it
Hi Jan (and List)...it's really great getting info from the horse's mouth...good to know Americans aren't the only fatheads on the planet as so many on this List like to continually proclaim. --Mike DuPree - Original Message - From: Jan Warnqvist To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2006 4:55 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Sweden how they do it Hello Lugano et al. As a Swedish native I can provide a more detailed and personal picture of the possibilities of oil independence of this country. There are a number of buts: - The power companies are not allowed to increase the share of electricity coming from hydropower sources, because thereis environmental, nature-protecting legislation. So, in order to become more independent of oil, we just have to trust that the 11 nuclear power plants running, will keep on to do so without serious accidents or other side effects. - Biodiesel has never been a popular product within any administration in this country. This is probably because biodiesel production can be performed in small scale. The administrative favourite product, ethanol, is a typical large scale product, which complies more with the industrial traditions of this country. One can even suspect that there is an attitude proclaiming that it is bad enough letting the farmers be in control of the food production. Things would get even worse if the farmers were in control of the energy production as well. - The petroleum supplies to this country have mainly been coming from the North Sea for a number of decades now, provided nominally by Norwegian and British companies. But the northernAtlantic production has already passed its peak, making changes necessary in order not to be totally depending upon oil from Russia and the middle east, which can be considered asa tooadventurous project. - The result of next election can very well over-throw the ambition of oil independence, since the right-liberal-centre coalition aiming for office, doesn´t have this target on the agenda. - The automotive industry, not only the Swedish, has to acknowledge and accept the goal. So far nothing along this line has been proclaimed from the industry. In such a small export-depending country as Sweden, the automotive industry is very power-ful, and used to havingits way. Jan Warnqvist + 46 554 201 89+46 70 499 38 45 - Original Message - From: Lugano Wilson To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2006 1:52 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Sweden how they do it Yes, Sweden is well commited to renewabel energy as part of energy security and environmental considerations. it is projected that in 2010 about 51% of of its electricity will be produced from renewable sources. this is supported by existing huge hydropower sources and strong commitment to bioenergy. renewable electricity like bioenergy, wind, solar, etc. are currently growing in sharing the supply scheme due to existing legislation on certification scheme. further to this, the transport sector has been targetted for increased efficiency and utilization of renewable energy like ethanol and biodiesel through taxation that based on annual vehicle pollution (emitted CO2) and not the conventional taxation that based on either weight, size, utilization, etc. the whole of this development is guided by strong policies that are spearheading research, development and utilization. follow the following links for: 1: electricity for renewable sources http://ec.europa.eu/energy/res/publications/index_en.htm 2: green vehicles http://www.gronabilister.se/public/dokument.php?art=272 have a nice week end. Lugano Mark` Cookson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hellow every one I was listening to the radio this afternoon here int the UK and a programme come on called Costing the Earth. Its subject was how Sweden are changing away from fossil fuels.I found it very interesting as you may.Follow the link here then go down the left of the page to [Listen to the latest programme link] hey presto!!!http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/science/costingtheearth.shtmlGood luckMark___Biofuel mailing listBiofuel@sustainablelists.orghttp://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.orgBiofuel at Journey to Forever:http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.htmlSearch the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages):http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/..Division of Energy and Furnace Technology,Department of Materials Science and
Re: [Biofuel] Old Peugeots
I tried that with a piece of fuel line, even heated the B100 to help accelerate the process... I let it sit for weeks. Nothing. I had been driving my '81 Datsun Diesel pickup for 14 months with the original rubber fuel lines, and then, it happened! There were 2 pin holes that started spraying B100 under the hood. Didn't notice it right away, and wasted quite a bit of that tankful, and some of it got to the brake rotor on the right, which I noticed the first time I stepped on the brake. It quickly changed lanes to the left. A moment of excitement... It was on the pressurized side of the pump, and even then, not tragic, I cut off the offending piece of fuel line, reconnected it, continued on my journey, and then replaced the fuel line as soon as possible. Took some doing to get the brake shoes cleaned, and the rotor cleaned, but even if it doesn't deteriorate after a short duration, I'd recommend having a spare length of fuel line handy. Dissection of the fuel line that showed damage indicates that the rubber on the inside turned to a soft sticky substance. Probably not good for the pump, but this old truck is still running. With the same pump. I know. I was told about the fuel lines way back when I started using (and making) biodiesel, but being the experimenter, I wanted to watch it happen. It's not instantaneous... doug swanson EMRE ELMAS wrote: Hey Bob, Why don't you cut just an inch or two of the fuel line and drop in B100 to see if it damages the mentioned parts or not. That way you might not need to change them. Emre ELMAS Mobile: +90 533 517 72 45 From: Bob Carr [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: [Biofuel] Old Peugeots Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2006 13:43:28 +0100 Hi all, I have just acquired an old 1991 Peugeot 405 turbodiesel. Does anyone have any experience of how long the fuel lines and pump seals may last if I run B100 ? Also anyone know of a UK supplier for viton seal kits? Cheers, Bob ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ _ Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee® Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ -- Contentment comes not from having more, but from wanting less. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * This email is constructed entirely with OpenSource Software. No Microsoft databits have been incorporated herein. All existing databits have been constructed from recycled databits. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Sweden how they do it
Hi Mike, If you look at the private transportation sector in Sweden, Jan is describing fairly correct the situation. This sector is heavily influenced by foreign companies, after the auto industry has been taken over by them and the export situation. An other sector that is the same or bigger size in a country like Sweden, is the energy use in buildings and Sweden is leading in this sector. On average a Swedish building uses 1/3 of an US and 1/4 of a Canadian, after climate corrections. The good thing is that this cannot be overthrown and it is nailed down in the building standard of 1978, which we were involved in. For the truck and buses, the situation is also more positive, than the private transportation. The Swedish truck and bus industry is known for its good over all fuel economy , cleanliness and reliability. I think that Jan is right, when he talk about private autos, but this is also dependent on that Sweden had to accept imports on this side. If Sweden set too stringent rules for private autos, it would be severe trade consequences. That truck and buses can excel, is mainly because Sweden is a leading manufacturer with large export and that it is driven by economics. Since I have been involved in building Forsmark I and II, I can say that, at this time Sweden was also far ahead in design and security demands of nuclear power. There are no single shielded power stations, as in many other parts of the world, and the design criteria was the hardest in the world. At the time ASEA (later ABB) had a very interesting low temperature neighborhood reactor, designed and ready to build, but the referendum stopped this development. Others are now working on similar designs and it is a very low risk reactor, compared to todays reactors. Knowing the design criteria and maintenance demands, Sweden would not be any of the first countries that worries me. I have much higher concerns about the former Soviet Union and US. Unfortunately, a major nuclear accident almost always goes global and can effect the whole world, that is why I am very worried about the situation on the general state of nuclear power. Hakan At 19:05 13/08/2006, you wrote: Hi Jan (and List)...it's really great getting info from the horse's mouth...good to know Americans aren't the only fatheads on the planet as so many on this List like to continually proclaim. -- Mike DuPree - Original Message - From: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Jan Warnqvist To: mailto:biofuel@sustainablelists.orgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2006 4:55 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Sweden how they do it Hello Lugano et al. As a Swedish native I can provide a more detailed and personal picture of the possibilities of oil independence of this country. There are a number of buts: - The power companies are not allowed to increase the share of electricity coming from hydropower sources, because there is environmental, nature-protecting legislation. So, in order to become more independent of oil, we just have to trust that the 11 nuclear power plants running, will keep on to do so without serious accidents or other side effects. - Biodiesel has never been a popular product within any administration in this country. This is probably because biodiesel production can be performed in small scale. The administrative favourite product, ethanol, is a typical large scale product, which complies more with the industrial traditions of this country. One can even suspect that there is an attitude proclaiming that it is bad enough letting the farmers be in control of the food production. Things would get even worse if the farmers were in control of the energy production as well. - The petroleum supplies to this country have mainly been coming from the North Sea for a number of decades now, provided nominally by Norwegian and British companies. But the northernAtlantic production has already passed its peak, making changes necessary in order not to be totally depending upon oil from Russia and the middle east, which can be considered as a too adventurous project. - The result of next election can very well over-throw the ambition of oil independence, since the right-liberal-centre coalition aiming for office, doesn´t have this target on the agenda. - The automotive industry, not only the Swedish, has to acknowledge and accept the goal. So far nothing along this line has been proclaimed from the industry. In such a small export-depending country as Sweden, the automotive industry is very power-ful, and used to having its way. Jan Warnqvist + 46 554 201 89 +46 70 499 38 45 - Original Message - From: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Lugano Wilson To: mailto:biofuel@sustainablelists.orgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2006 1:52 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Sweden how they do it Yes, Sweden is well commited to renewabel energy as part of energy security and
Re: [Biofuel] Sweden how they do it
Hi Hakan...thanks for this additional info. A little bit of facetiousness in my last post...actually a lot of disappointment become sarcasm, which you are helping to rebalance. Jan's post sounded to me like things in Sweden weren't really as rosy as Logano's post might have suggested. I'm really hoping enough of the planet's population can keep it together while the USA goes down the tubes, so I was really disappointed by Jan's post. Somehow, however, I guess I really havelost hope in a meaningful turnaround, whatever that might be, especially with China and India coming online in a huge way. So I keep my eye on that cedar bush I see growing up through the asphalt and trust in something much bigger than "America" or "Russia" or even "Sweden." Nonetheless, it's always refreshingto hear of someone doing anything that looksat our demise in the eyeand takes another step. Mike DuPree - Original Message - From: "Hakan Falk" [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: biofuel@sustainablelists.orgSent: Sunday, August 13, 2006 1:18 PMSubject: Re: [Biofuel] Sweden how they do it Hi Mike, If you look at the private transportation sector in Sweden, Jan is describing fairly correct the situation. This sector is heavily influenced by foreign companies, after the auto industry has been taken over by them and the export situation. An other sector that is the same or bigger size in a country like Sweden, is the energy use in buildings and Sweden is leading in this sector. On average a Swedish building uses 1/3 of an US and 1/4 of a Canadian, after climate corrections. The good thing is that this cannot be overthrown and it is nailed down in the building standard of 1978, which we were involved in. For the truck and buses, the situation is also more positive, than the private transportation. The Swedish truck and bus industry is known for its good over all fuel economy , cleanliness and reliability. I think that Jan is right, when he talk about private autos, but this is also dependent on that Sweden had to accept imports on this side. If Sweden set too stringent rules for private autos, it would be severe trade consequences. That truck and buses can excel, is mainly because Sweden is a leading manufacturer with large export and that it is driven by economics. Since I have been involved in building Forsmark I and II, I can say that, at this time Sweden was also far ahead in design and security demands of nuclear power. There are no single shielded power stations, as in many other parts of the world, and the design criteria was the hardest in the world. At the time ASEA (later ABB) had a very interesting low temperature neighborhood reactor, designed and ready to build, but the referendum stopped this development. Others are now working on similar designs and it is a very low risk reactor, compared to todays reactors. Knowing the design criteria and maintenance demands, Sweden would not be any of the first countries that worries me. I have much higher concerns about the former Soviet Union and US. Unfortunately, a major nuclear accident almost always goes global and can effect the whole world, that is why I am very worried about the situation on the general state of nuclear power. Hakan At 19:05 13/08/2006, you wrote:Hi Jan (and List)...it's really great gettinginfo from the horse's mouth...good to knowAmericans aren't the only fatheads on the planetas so many on this List like to continually proclaim. -- Mike DuPree- Original Message -From: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Jan WarnqvistTo: mailto:biofuel@sustainablelists.orgbiofuel@sustainablelists.orgSent: Sunday, August 13, 2006 4:55 AMSubject: Re: [Biofuel] Sweden how they do itHello Lugano et al.As a Swedish native I can provide a moredetailed and personal picture of thepossibilities of oil independence of this country. There are a number of buts:- The power companies are not allowed toincrease the share of electricity coming fromhydropower sources, because there isenvironmental, nature-protecting legislation.So, in order to become more independent of oil,we just have to trust that the 11 nuclear powerplants running, will keep on to do so withoutserious accidents or other side effects.- Biodiesel has never been a popular productwithin any administration in this country. Thisis probably because biodiesel production can beperformed in small scale. The administrativefavourite product, ethanol, is a typical largescale product, which complies more with theindustrial traditions of this country. One caneven suspect that there is an attitudeproclaiming that it is bad enough letting thefarmers be in control of the food production.Things would get even worse if the farmers werein control of the energy production as well.- The petroleum supplies to this country havemainly been coming from the North Sea for anumber of decades now, provided nominally byNorwegian and British companies. But thenorthernAtlantic
Re: [Biofuel] What the bleep -was galloway
You're cuisin' now Weaver!Keep Mom out of it or else we'll have to settle things after school, behind the gym.Mike Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Pinkler,I never GPL's it, so it's mine.besides, you're on MY half of the seat! MOM!-WeaverMike Redler wrote:It doesn't matter Weaver! I'm sure it was invented so long ago that it's expired and in the public domain by now. So, there's nothing you can do about it!You're not the boss of me!Mike Weaver wrote: I invented it.So try not to piss me off.-Mike "Big Head" Weaver[snip]___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] These dam greenies are everywhere......
Hi Keith, Ironic headline to attract attention; soubriquet for the the beavers. Certainly not intended as an attack on (big G) Greenies. Regards, Bob. - Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2006 2:22 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] These dam greenies are everywhere.. Hello Bob Hi All, This can't be an urban myth, because it didn't take place in the city. Right? Decide for yourself. Not at all, just check snopes:: http://www.snopes.com/humor/letters/dammed.htm Urban Legends Reference Pages: Humor (Dammed Beavers!) Nice piece, been doing the rounds for eight years. Dammed Beavers, it says, not dam greenies, no mention of greenies. Where did your Check your backyard, these dam greenies are everywhere headline come from, if I might ask? It's quite often been used by libertarian etc people as a sneer at Big Government, but they often attack greenies too (econazis). Best Keith ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] These dam greenies are everywhere......
If you plan to have any ospreytenants in the future, it might require some work to keep it up to code.You will have to contact the inspector and apply for a certificate of occupancy - even if it's used as a guest house.Depending on the state, you might also need to install a flushing toilet.By the way, 9' mightrequire a fire escape.I don't mean to be the bearer of bad news...just tryin' to help.- RedlerMike Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Uh oh,I have a 9' tall foot abandonded Osprey nest I've been maintaning for several years now - I wonder if it'll get me in trouble?bob allen wrote:Howdy folks, if you read the analysis at Snopes, you'll discover the the Michigan authorities are not quite as stupid as seems, nor the land owner so innocent. I would be pi**ed off too if an adjacent land owner started messing with my land. " The letter concerned an enforcement action directed to a tenant on property surrounding Spring Pond,which is located in Pierson Township, Montcalm County, Michigan. The tenant was observed by the downstreamcomplainant, and has since admitted to the complainant, that he artificially built up, and maintained twoabandoned beaver dams on the discharge end of the natural pond. Such an activity falls under the jurisdictionof Part 301, Inland Lakes and Streams, of the Natural Resources and Environmental Protection Act, 1194 PA 451,as amended. It is the Department's position that in the absence of any threat to public welfare, beaver damsshould be left in their natural state, that being either actively maintained or abandoned by beaver."[snip]___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Old Peugeots
Hi all, I have just acquired an old 1991 Peugeot 405 turbodiesel. Does anyone have any experience of how long the fuel lines and pump seals may last if I run B100 ? Also anyone know of a UK supplier for viton seal kits? Cheers, Bob Hi Bob For 1991 you're unlikely to have problems, especially not with the fuel lines. But that presumes you're using top-quality B100. Don't assume that commercially produced fuel is necessarily top-quality, there are too many cases in both Europe and the US of that not being the case. See what it says about quality here: http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_vehicle.html#qual1 Biodiesel and your vehicle Quality Anyway if you do have problems with seals it won't be sudden, you'll have enough warning, so just go ahead and do it, IMHO. Could be wrong, but I wouldn't bother to lay in a set of Viton seals for a 1991 Peugeot just in case. Best Keith ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
