Re: AW: [biofuels-biz] WATER INJECTION and diesel

2002-06-08 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Craig I missed this post at Biofuels-biz at the time somehow, just seen it now. Tut tut... Thanks very much, very interesting. Still not sure about it, it's complex - a mist via injection with the air vs water in the fuel that gets misted anyway when it's injected with the rest of the

[biofuels-biz] BIOLOGICALLY MODIFIED VEGETABLE OILS FOR FUEL PERFORMANCE

2002-06-08 Thread goat industries
I've OCR'd the article of the above title and it may be viewed from the link below. Hope it is informative. http://www.goatindustries.fsnet.co.uk/articles/BIOLOGICALLY MODIFIED VEGETABLE OILS FOR FUEL PERFORMANCE.doc [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Biofuels at Journey

AW: [biofuels-biz] DOE Grant

2002-06-08 Thread Camillo Holecek
-UrsprŸngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet: Freitag, 07. Juni 2002 22:51 An: biofuels-biz@yahoogroups.com Betreff: [biofuels-biz] DOE Grant I got a reply from the US DOE yesterday saying they found no merit in my preliminary grant application.

AW: [biofuels-biz] DOE Grant

2002-06-08 Thread Camillo Holecek
Tom, please allow me one question: What is the potential amount of UVO, yellow grease, grease trap and other feedstock within let's say 100 miles around you? A 250,000 gallon per year initial production facility looks to small to be economic according to European experience, where fuel prices

Re: [biofuels-biz] DOE Grant

2002-06-08 Thread David Teal
Tom, Camillo reckons 250,000 gal/yr is too small to be economic based on European experience. Please bear in mind that Europeans enjoyed a lot of EU financial support and possibly illegal tax breaks in their home markets. Therefore they did not have to hone costs in anything like the way you

Re: [biofuels-biz] Chem Supplies

2002-06-08 Thread Appal Energy
Eric, If you're conducting the demo at the highschool, the chem department should have acid and probably the methanol and caustic available. If not, the caustic can be found at many groceries or hardware stores. Is the presumption correct that you intend to do a 2 stage acid/base reaction? If

Re: AW: [biofuels-biz] DOE Grant

2002-06-08 Thread Tilapia
Actually, the proposal is for 1,000,000 gpy plant. My estimate is that there is about 1 gallon available for recovery per person per year. Albany is in a 2,000,000 metro center, but the oil will come from beyond that area too. The situation in the US is that it is illegal for small producers

Re: [biofuel] Re: EPA Ruling Backfires, Spurs Sales of Diesel Trucks

2002-06-08 Thread Harmon Seaver
On Fri, Jun 07, 2002 at 10:22:34PM -, motie_d wrote: Because that is what consumers will buy. If no one was buying Harleys because of the noise, they would quiet them down. That's irrelevant -- the fact is that their exhaust system is illegal, and something needs to be done about it.

Re: [biofuel] Diesel Motorcycles ? the answer

2002-06-08 Thread Harmon Seaver
Did a google for that diesel NATO bike, guess what: http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_bikes.html gee, fancy that! -- Harmon Seaver CyberShamanix http://www.cybershamanix.com Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives:

Re: [biofuel] Energy from Snow / Ice fall

2002-06-08 Thread studio53
I don't think so. My days of going out anywhere on Geocities is over. Last time I went there I got blasted by three ads before I could even move the mouse. Then An ad came up of some actress that covered half the screen. I'm done with them. Jesse Parris | studio53 | graphics / web design |

Re: [biofuel] Diesel Motorcycles ? the answer

2002-06-08 Thread Terry Wilhelm
Royal Enfield has been producing diesel motorcycles for several years. They are produced by a British company and sold in India. Big market there. There is one distributor in the US that I have spoken with about this bike. I have priced the bikes several times when I was in India and then

Re: [biofuel] Diesel Motorcycles ? the answer

2002-06-08 Thread studio53
Terry, None of the links work with the pictures on your website. Jesse Parris | studio53 | graphics / web design | stamford, ct | 203.324.4371 www.jesseparris.com/Portfolio_Jesse_Parris/ - Original Message - From: Terry Wilhelm [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent:

[biofuel] Re: EPA Ruling Backfires, Spurs Sales of Diesel Trucks

2002-06-08 Thread motie_d
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Harmon Seaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's irrelevant -- the fact is that their exhaust system is illegal, and something needs to be done about it. It's irrelevant what the riders want or what the company wants, they have no right to inflict that noise on

Re: [biofuel] Equipment Information

2002-06-08 Thread David
Me thinks you need to take the time to read what is written on the pages .. then you will find what you went there for.. David At 04:32 PM 7/06/2002 -0400, you wrote: I don't know what Carlos is talking about. He's seeing something that I'm not. I goto this URL and all that's there are three

Re: [biofuel] Diesel Motorcycles ?

2002-06-08 Thread Keith Addison
I just had a thought, does anyone know of a motorcycle that uses diesel, instead of gas ? Greg H. Lots. http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_bikes.html Diesel motorbikes Keith Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives:

Re: [biofuel] Equipment Information

2002-06-08 Thread henning
The Tinytech oil expeller is not a very small one. I suggest that you regard the Sundhara expeller, which can be build even in small workshops. see: http://jatropha.org/expellers/sundhara-1.htm Regards Reinhard Henning Brawner [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: hello Keith: you can see a

Re: [biofuel] water

2002-06-08 Thread Ken
Christian, Is there a way to calculate how much catalyst would be needed for how much a reaction time. The reason for washing is to get rid of the catalyst in the newly reacted BD and lower the ph right? so if we can use lesser catalyst then washing might not be necessary. As for the excess

[biofuel] Energy from Land tidal force Snow/Ice fall

2002-06-08 Thread telewise
Hai All, Land tidal force is a promising energy source in the future! Please vist : http://www.geocities.com/newideasfromtelewise/tidalpowerplant.htm Energy from Snow/Ice fall Visit: http://www.geocities.com/newideasfromtelewise/energy_from_snow__ice_fall.htm [Non-text portions of

Re: [biofuel] Equipment Information

2002-06-08 Thread Keith Addison
Hi David Me thinks you need to take the time to read what is written on the pages .. then you will find what you went there for.. I don't think so, there is a 125kg/hr expeller there, but no small presses and no prices. It's just a mirror of the Indian manufacturer's site, there's a lot more

Re: [biofuel] water

2002-06-08 Thread Keith Addison
Hi Christian Well, it's interesting. Do those maximums for water content in the standards make any sense? Will water in the fuel damage the engine? First, this is what Camillo Holecek said about it recently: The Austrian Standard ONORM C 1191 said only: No water should settle out (i.e. about

Re: [biofuel] Equipment Information

2002-06-08 Thread henning
Hi, You are right. But laboratory size expellers (Komet) are also very expensive, especially the repair parts. Regard the Sundhara press. It has a capacity of about 60 - 70 kg seed per hour (15 l of oil) and costs about 2.000 US $. It is produced in Nepal, Tanzania and Mali. visit the

RE: [biofuel] Mistake

2002-06-08 Thread henning
Good comment Regards Reinhard Henning kirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: She should upgrade her computer to that new keyboard with the delete key. Must have struck a nerve somewhere in her psyche. Netetiquette Nanny. People that look a gift horse in the mouth. Contribute nothing and want

Re: [biofuel] Energy from Land tidal force Snow/Ice fall

2002-06-08 Thread Keith Addison
Hai All, Land tidal force is a promising energy source in the future! Please vist : http://www.geocities.com/newideasfromtelewise/tidalpowerplant.htm Energy from Snow/Ice fall Visit: http://www.geocities.com/newideasfromtelewise/energy_from_snow__ice_fall.htm Thanks, but you've told

Re: [biofuel] Re: EPA Ruling Backfires, Spurs Sales of Diesel Trucks

2002-06-08 Thread Larry Ruebush
European countries already have a hand in the US truck market. Freightliner and Sterling trucks are owned by Mercedes as well as Detroit Diesel. Volvo owns Volvo trucks and Mack. Volvo makes several diesel engines in Europe that are used in US trucks. New Holland-Case IH farm and construction

Re: [biofuel] Re: EPA Ruling Backfires, Spurs Sales of Diesel Trucks

2002-06-08 Thread Harmon Seaver
On Sat, Jun 08, 2002 at 06:43:09AM -, motie_d wrote: --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Harmon Seaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's irrelevant -- the fact is that their exhaust system is illegal, and something needs to be done about it. It's irrelevant what the riders want or what

Re: [biofuel] Re: EPA Ruling Backfires, Spurs Sales of Diesel Trucks

2002-06-08 Thread Harmon Seaver
On Sat, Jun 08, 2002 at 05:43:38PM +0900, Keith Addison wrote: Eric wrote: I think I should have to disagree about the loud pipes on bikes though. We know that 4 out of 5 motorcycle accidents are the cars fault. Cars notice bikes with loud pipes. ... Yes, and it probably annoys them

Re: [biofuel] Re: EPA Ruling Backfires, Spurs Sales of Diesel Trucks

2002-06-08 Thread Harmon Seaver
On Sat, Jun 08, 2002 at 06:56:20AM -0500, Larry Ruebush wrote: European countries already have a hand in the US truck market. Freightliner and Sterling trucks are owned by Mercedes as well as Detroit Diesel. Volvo owns Volvo trucks and Mack. Volvo makes several diesel engines in Europe that

Re: [biofuel] Diesel Motorcycles ? the answer

2002-06-08 Thread Brawner
It would be possible to adapt the new alluminium diesel engines 10HP/3600rpm, 40 kg weight, to existing motorcycles? Carlos - Original Message - From: Terry Wilhelm To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 08, 2002 2:33 AM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Diesel Motorcycles ?

Re: [biofuel] The Reality Principle: The consequences of oil shortages

2002-06-08 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
This will occur when the five large OPEC producers in the Middle East - Iran, Iraq, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia and the UAE - are no longer able and willing to pump their oil fast enough to meet the growth in world demand. All the other oil suppliers throughout the world (including the UK's North

Re: [biofuel] Energy from Snow / Ice fall

2002-06-08 Thread Greg and April
Far feched. Ice and snow does not move like the inventor envisions. Greg H. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 22:26 Subject: [biofuel] Energy from Snow / Ice fall Visit:

Re: [biofuel] RE (off topic) Cars+loud music,motorbikes

2002-06-08 Thread Harmon Seaver
On Sat, Jun 08, 2002 at 11:44:24PM +0900, Keith Addison wrote: Glad you're still with us Paul. I'm quite a good rider (I started when I was 14), but I don't think it makes any difference anymore. I was relieved to sell my last bike, sad but definitely relieved. It was a 250 Kwacker twin,

Re: [biofuel] RE (off topic) Cars+loud music,motorbikes

2002-06-08 Thread Keith Addison
Hi Paul - Original Message - From: Harmon Seaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] [snip] [Would you say safety would allow loud pipes on bikes?] Definitely not, in fact I think we should have open season, shoot on sight on loud bikes. Same with loud car stereos and boomboxes. Or at least

Re: [biofuel] RE (off topic) Cars+loud music,motorbikes

2002-06-08 Thread Greg and April
- Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 08, 2002 08:44 Subject: Re: [biofuel] RE (off topic) Cars+loud music,motorbikes Glad you're still with us Paul. I'm quite a good rider (I started when I was 14), but I don't

RE: [biofuel] Diesel Motorcycles ? the answer

2002-06-08 Thread Juan Boveda
Hi Carlos, Where can I find that kind of engine? Who is the manufacturer, do you have the address? Regards Juan --- Carlos wrote: It would be possible to adapt the new alluminium diesel engines 10HP/3600rpm, 40 kg weight, to existing

Re: [biofuel] Equipment Information

2002-06-08 Thread Ken Provost
Reinhard writes: You are right. But laboratory size expellers (Komet) are also very expensive, especially the repair parts. I'd prefer to think of the press I want as kitchen scale. There's no engineering reason I can see for a small oil press to cost any more than, say, an electric

[biofuel] FW: [distributed-generation] Re: challenge to ESC..

2002-06-08 Thread kirk
http://134.48.50.238/classwork/Lysonski/Mark140/MARKETING%20MYOPIA/MARKETING %20MYOPIA.pdf is well worth reading Kirk To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [distributed-generation] Re: challenge to ESC.. Right! 1960! Time flies when you'r having fun. I got the date from the 1975 reprint.

Re: [biofuel] Mistake

2002-06-08 Thread Appal Energy
For those who were curious, the razor wire remark from Ms. Musser below came via www.bridgingthegap.org , which appears to be something akin to a 501 C-3 offshoot of KAB - Keep America Beautiful - Kansas City, Kansas. KAB and all its affiliates in various states and communities is kind of a

RE: [biofuel] Re: EPA Ruling Backfires, Spurs Sales of Diesel Trucks

2002-06-08 Thread kirk
Build one of those EMP zappers and have fun with those car stereos. If they worked in a plant with that noise and damaged their ears(which most of these kids have already) you would pay out the nose. They do it willingly so oh well Should start a class action suit against the mfr and

Re: [biofuel] RE (off topic) Cars+loud music,motorbikes

2002-06-08 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
As for motorbikes my philosophy on staying safe was to be always moving ahead of other traffic. That way you have more control over traffic conditions and less threat from behind. Car users and motorbikes just don't mix. Lack of consideration for the totally different safety dynamics, failure to

[biofuel] ABCs of Biofuels, Biochemistry Biorefinery

2002-06-08 Thread MH
This is a follow up to Monsieur Beggs inspiration! Subject: Quotes from Developing Biobased Industries in Canada http://www.agr.gc.ca/misb/spcrops/framework_e.phtml = [MH: a very short Q card presentation timeline.] Moving Federal Biofuels Research and

Re: [biofuel] water

2002-06-08 Thread Christian
Dear Ken, I«m not quite sure if I can answer the first question. You should always use as little lye as necessary to neutralize FFA, plus a little extra to transesterify the WVO. And the Methanol is calculated by stoichiometry. But all this falls down in practice, «cause it«s an equilibrium

Re: [biofuel] Diesel Motorcycles ?

2002-06-08 Thread terrence william day
There is a diesel mbike made i think by Kawasaki for the US army 2000-2001 - Original Message - From: Greg and April [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 08, 2002 12:02 PM Subject: [biofuel] Diesel Motorcycles ? I just had a thought, does anyone know of a

Re: [biofuel] water

2002-06-08 Thread Christian
Hi Keith, I«m answering this letter separate from Ken«s answer. Regarding I'm really not sure at this stage whether that's good advice or not though., my intention is not to freak everyone out. I simply wouldn«t want anybody to ruin a 2,5lt Grand Cherokee motor by fooling around. Water, as