[biofuels-biz] Energy Scandals and Climate Tragedies
http://www.alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=13450 AlterNet -- Energy Scandals and Climate Tragedies Michel Gelobter, AlterNet June 24, 2002 The controversy over the recent release of the 2002 Climate Action Report by the Environmental Protection Agency is just the latest in a series of environmental controversies to hit the Bush Administration. Before people were left to try solving the riddle of President Bush's actual climate change position, they witnessed a series of energy-related scandals that dogged Washington. Whether it was Enron, the California energy crisis, or the deliberations into the Bush-Cheney Energy Plan, troubling signals emanate from the White House with disturbing frequency. Take, for example, the release of documents tying Energy Secretary Spencer Abraham to meetings with donors, whose campaign contributions to both parties since 1999 topped $29 million. The payoff from those meetings was almost a thousandfold: legislation embodying $27 billion in subsidies. Believe it or not, this rich harvest is dwarfed by a decision the Bush Administration has already implemented: the U.S. withdrawal from the Kyoto Protocol on Climate Change. Had the U.S. respected our commitment to action on this critical issue, recent studies, including our own, have shown that the net cost to American fossil fuel industries could have been more than $45 billion a year. By contrast, estimates of the benefits of good climate policy to the economy as a whole range as high as $120 billion a year by 2020. While our economy took the hit, the energy industry walked away from the President's policy with its biggest payday ever. So while the fossil fuel industry cashes in on our climate reversal, who pays? First, the vast majority of American businesses. If the U.S. adopted a policy to internalize the climate-related costs of energy use, it would spawn a vast double dividend. Redirected investments would spur employment and send new investments where they belong, in companies fueled by workers and innovation instead of dependence on foreign oil. Furthermore, the reversal of American climate policy devalues other industry groups relative to fossil fuel. Because fossil fuel use is subsidized by bad climate policy, we use more of it than we should. Energy industries artificially appear to be better investments than they really are and attract capital investment that could be used more productively in the rest of the economy. A second victim of the energy industry's climate subsidy is our national security. Adopting the Kyoto Protocol could reduce by 2020 our dependence on oil by over 25%. There may not be a linear relationship between this number and the geo-political risks created by our dependence on oil-producing states, but we sorely need the flexibility that independence would allow. Because global warming is, after all, global, its effects threaten our security in the long-run as well. The U.S., which represents 4% of the world population, emits 25% of the carbon dioxide from fossil fuel, and we are historically responsible for over 35% of greenhouse gasses presently trapped in the atmosphere. As the impacts of our emissions become more clear with time, our reputation may grow from pariah on climate policy to responsible party for the natural disasters that climate change will entrain. Barring rapid action on our part, events like the submersion of 57% of Bangladesh in 1998 or last month's rapid breakup of Antarctic ice may increasingly be linked to American energy policy, whether or not these events are directly connected to climate change. Global warming is happening right here, right now, and there is no shortage of impacts on our own people. The elderly trapped in unprecedented urban heat waves, America's arctic populations facing dwindling fish catches, and farmers in the South and Southwest dependent on an increasingly volatile climate are all paying the price of our delay and inaction. All told, the United Nations Environment Program calculates the worldwide cost of inaction at $300 billion per year, as coastal property disappears, buildings are damaged, and species' habitats are irrevocably altered. These are costs we will now pass on to our children, our children's children, and the world for generations to come. The President's reversal on climate is the gift to the fossil fuel industry that keeps on taking from the rest of us. It is a testament to our democracy that, despite their millions in contributions, the energy industry still faces significant legal and political hurdles to getting their way on many other fronts. With its inaction on climate change the Bush administration has scored a windfall for an industry with enormous clout. Unfortunately, it has also laid the groundwork for a human and environmental tragedy of unprecedented proportion. Michel Gelobter is the Executive Director of Redefining Progress, an Oakland,
[biofuels-biz] Engine makers, refiners can meet US diesel rule - EPA
http://www.planetark.org/dailynewsstory.cfm/newsid/16585/story.htm Planet Ark : Engine makers, refiners can meet US diesel rule - EPA USA: June 26, 2002 WASHINGTON - U.S. diesel engine manufacturers and petroleum refiners should have no problem in meeting new federal standards to reduce the amount of sulfur in diesel fuel, according to a new Environmental Protection Agency report. The report was a blow to the U.S. oil industry, which complained it would have a tough time complying with the EPA's goal of cutting the sulfur level in diesel fuel by 97 percent to just 15 parts per million (ppm). Refiners must begin producing the cleaner diesel by 2006. Large trucks, buses and other heavy duty vehicles must be on the market by 2007 with engines that can process the fuel. The EPA's report, which was released on Friday and is now being reviewed by an advisory panel this week, found that both industries are making significant progress in meeting the lower sulfur requirements. Some refiners are ahead of schedule and will be capable of producing the diesel fuel with the low sulfur levels as early as next year, it said. We are very encouraged by the actions some refiners have already taken in terms of announcing specific plan for low sulfur diesel fuel production, the EPA said. Nonetheless, small refiners will be given up to four additional years to meet the new standards. In addition, refiners that supply fuel to western states and Alaska will have until 2008 to produce the low-sulfur fuel. Separately, the EPA said engine makers plan to use technology that already exists to build engines with special filters that could process the cleaner diesel fuel. Although it is still early in the process, every major engine manufacturer that we visited told us that they expect to have emission-compliant products in 2007, EPA said. The oil industry and other business groups had sued the EPA in an effort to block the sulfur guidelines. Oil companies said the EPA requirements would cause them to close refiners instead of making expensive modifications to their facilities, resulting in fuel supply shortages and higher diesel prices. However, a federal court ruled last month in favor of the agency's rule making, saying technology was available to make diesel fuel that emitted fewer sulfur emissions. Story by Tom Doggett REUTERS NEWS SERVICE Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Free $5 Love Reading Risk Free! http://us.click.yahoo.com/3PCXaC/PfREAA/Ey.GAA/9bTolB/TM -~- Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel at WebConX http://www.webconx.com/2000/biofuel/biofuel.htm List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: http://archive.nnytech.net/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuels-biz] No more French fry WVO?
http://www.planetark.org/dailynewsstory.cfm/newsid/16556/story.htm Experts to examine safety of crisps, French fries SWITZERLAND: June 25, 2002 GENEVA - World Health Organisation (WHO) food safety experts start three days of meetings yesterday to probe reports that potato crisps, French fries and other carbohydrate-rich foods contain a cancer-causing substance. http://enn.com/news/wire-stories/2002/06/06252002/ap_47645.asp - 6/25/2002 WHO hosts urgent meeting on acrylamide in food http://enn.com/news/wire-stories/2002/06/06282002/ap_47695.asp - 6/28/2002 Scientists cite real concern about acrylamide in food Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Free $5 Love Reading Risk Free! http://us.click.yahoo.com/3PCXaC/PfREAA/Ey.GAA/9bTolB/TM -~- Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel at WebConX http://www.webconx.com/2000/biofuel/biofuel.htm List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: http://archive.nnytech.net/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuels-biz] Re: [biofuel] No more French fry WVO?
I can't see this as having any impact on peoples love for deep fry. Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter: http://www.webconx.com/subscribe.htm Renewable Energy Pages - http://www.webconx.dns2go.com/ Human powered devices, equipment, and transport - http://www.webconx.dns2go.com/2000/humanpower.htm [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Cc: biofuels-biz@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2002 1:20 PM Subject: [biofuel] No more French fry WVO? http://www.planetark.org/dailynewsstory.cfm/newsid/16556/story.htm Experts to examine safety of crisps, French fries SWITZERLAND: June 25, 2002 GENEVA - World Health Organisation (WHO) food safety experts start three days of meetings yesterday to probe reports that potato crisps, French fries and other carbohydrate-rich foods contain a cancer-causing substance. http://enn.com/news/wire-stories/2002/06/06252002/ap_47645.asp - 6/25/2002 WHO hosts urgent meeting on acrylamide in food http://enn.com/news/wire-stories/2002/06/06282002/ap_47695.asp - 6/28/2002 Scientists cite real concern about acrylamide in food Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send quot;unsubscribequot; messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Free $5 Love Reading Risk Free! http://us.click.yahoo.com/3PCXaC/PfREAA/Ey.GAA/9bTolB/TM -~- Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel at WebConX http://www.webconx.com/2000/biofuel/biofuel.htm List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: http://archive.nnytech.net/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuels-biz] No more French fry WVO?
http://enn.com/news/wire-stories/2002/06/06252002/ap_47645.asp - 6/25/2002 WHO hosts urgent meeting on acrylamide in food Permit me to carry the thought process a wee tad further for us common laypersons. Anyone ever given much thought to the decay product of glycerin under conditions of inadequate combustion? Oddly enough it's call acrolein - rather toxic to living things, especially breathing things, at least according to every MSDS sheet I've read. So take that decay consideration, slap a bunch of potato shreds in a high temp tri-glyceride bath, or bake a grain product with a high oil content, and what might you think you'll get? Perhaps acrilomide? Glycerin, in the form of triglycerides, exposed to semi-high temps of frying and baking...~350* Fahrenheit. But then there is this statement: The Swedish researchers said that fried, oven-baked, and deep-fried potato and cereal products may contain high levels of acrylamide. The same results were not found in boiled products. A bit odd that water boils at 212* Fahrenheit, ~140* lower and a considerably less destructive temp range than baking or frying. Makes one wonder if there won't be a rush in the appliance and food processing markets for products that can cook foods in the temperature range of boiling, rather than frying and baking. Also makes one wonder if there won't be a rush for oils that are 100% FFAs, rather than a blend of tri-glycerides and FFAs. That would sure throw a kink in biodiesel manufacture when using waste restaurant oils. It would force every shadetree biodieseler to move towards high pressure esterification, rather than STP transesterification. It would also put some pressure on the animal feed and rendering industries to move away from using reprocessed WVOs as protein/energy additives to feed. Would be a shame to kill the AKC registered family pet simply by feeding it Puppy Chow. Todd Swearingen Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Free $5 Love Reading Risk Free! http://us.click.yahoo.com/3PCXaC/PfREAA/Ey.GAA/9bTolB/TM -~- Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel at WebConX http://www.webconx.com/2000/biofuel/biofuel.htm List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: http://archive.nnytech.net/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] gas filter (urgent question... I«ve got little time)
Hey everyone... I«m trying out my BD today, but I«m still one prefilter short. Does anyone know if an ordinary gasoline in line filter fill be OK (gasoline diesel have different viscosities molecule size, so I don«t know if this might represent some trouble). A combined water trap filter for diesel costs way too much, and anyway the car I«m planning to try the BD on has its own diesel filter. Is there anyone who thinks unsing the gasoline filter as a diesel prefilter will bring any problems? Thanks, (Please, I need an urgent answer... I«m leaving in 3 hours) Christian [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Free $5 Love Reading Risk Free! http://us.click.yahoo.com/3PCXaC/PfREAA/Ey.GAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send quot;unsubscribequot; messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] gas filter (urgent question... I«ve got little time)
Christian, Personally, I'd just use the existing filter system. I am presuming that you're filtering the fuel through at minimum a coffee filter before placing it in the tank or resevoir. Todd Swearingen - Original Message - From: Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2002 11:05 AM Subject: [biofuel] gas filter (urgent question... I«ve got little time) Hey everyone... I«m trying out my BD today, but I«m still one prefilter short. Does anyone know if an ordinary gasoline in line filter fill be OK (gasoline diesel have different viscosities molecule size, so I don«t know if this might represent some trouble). A combined water trap filter for diesel costs way too much, and anyway the car I«m planning to try the BD on has its own diesel filter. Is there anyone who thinks unsing the gasoline filter as a diesel prefilter will bring any problems? Thanks, (Please, I need an urgent answer... I«m leaving in 3 hours) Christian [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send quot;unsubscribequot; messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Free $5 Love Reading Risk Free! http://us.click.yahoo.com/3PCXaC/PfREAA/Ey.GAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send quot;unsubscribequot; messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] gas filter (urgent question... I«ve got little time)
the gasoline filter before the diesel filter will be the sacrificial one filtering out any stuff that might clog your good diesel filter. happy voyages. Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter: http://www.webconx.com/subscribe.htm Renewable Energy Pages - http://www.webconx.dns2go.com/ Human powered devices, equipment, and transport - http://www.webconx.dns2go.com/2000/humanpower.htm [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2002 11:05 AM Subject: [biofuel] gas filter (urgent question... I«ve got little time) Hey everyone... I«m trying out my BD today, but I«m still one prefilter short. Does anyone know if an ordinary gasoline in line filter fill be OK (gasoline diesel have different viscosities molecule size, so I don«t know if this might represent some trouble). A combined water trap filter for diesel costs way too much, and anyway the car I«m planning to try the BD on has its own diesel filter. Is there anyone who thinks unsing the gasoline filter as a diesel prefilter will bring any problems? Thanks, (Please, I need an urgent answer... I«m leaving in 3 hours) Christian [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send quot;unsubscribequot; messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Free $5 Love Reading Risk Free! http://us.click.yahoo.com/3PCXaC/PfREAA/Ey.GAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send quot;unsubscribequot; messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] gas filter (urgent question... I«ve got little time)
If he's never used BD before, it's solvent abilities may very well clean the gook out of his tank and lines. He does not want to clog his diesel filter with that, so a clear inline cheapo filter can be the visual sacrificial lamb. Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter: http://www.webconx.com/subscribe.htm Renewable Energy Pages - http://www.webconx.dns2go.com/ Human powered devices, equipment, and transport - http://www.webconx.dns2go.com/2000/humanpower.htm [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Appal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2002 11:19 AM Subject: Re: [biofuel] gas filter (urgent question... I«ve got little time) Christian, Personally, I'd just use the existing filter system. I am presuming that you're filtering the fuel through at minimum a coffee filter before placing it in the tank or resevoir. Todd Swearingen - Original Message - From: Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2002 11:05 AM Subject: [biofuel] gas filter (urgent question... I«ve got little time) Hey everyone... I«m trying out my BD today, but I«m still one prefilter short. Does anyone know if an ordinary gasoline in line filter fill be OK (gasoline diesel have different viscosities molecule size, so I don«t know if this might represent some trouble). A combined water trap filter for diesel costs way too much, and anyway the car I«m planning to try the BD on has its own diesel filter. Is there anyone who thinks unsing the gasoline filter as a diesel prefilter will bring any problems? Thanks, (Please, I need an urgent answer... I«m leaving in 3 hours) Christian [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send quot;unsubscribequot; messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send quot;unsubscribequot; messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Free $5 Love Reading Risk Free! http://us.click.yahoo.com/3PCXaC/PfREAA/Ey.GAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send quot;unsubscribequot; messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] gas filter (urgent question... I«ve got little time)
Right. Anyhow, I think I«ll be bypassing the tank. I.e., directly plugging the hose that goes to the filter and pump into a HDPE container. Regards, Christian - Original Message - From: steve spence [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2002 12:30 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] gas filter (urgent question... I«ve got little time) If he's never used BD before, it's solvent abilities may very well clean the gook out of his tank and lines. He does not want to clog his diesel filter with that, so a clear inline cheapo filter can be the visual sacrificial lamb. Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter: http://www.webconx.com/subscribe.htm Renewable Energy Pages - http://www.webconx.dns2go.com/ Human powered devices, equipment, and transport - http://www.webconx.dns2go.com/2000/humanpower.htm [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Appal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2002 11:19 AM Subject: Re: [biofuel] gas filter (urgent question... I«ve got little time) Christian, Personally, I'd just use the existing filter system. I am presuming that you're filtering the fuel through at minimum a coffee filter before placing it in the tank or resevoir. Todd Swearingen - Original Message - From: Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2002 11:05 AM Subject: [biofuel] gas filter (urgent question... I«ve got little time) Hey everyone... I«m trying out my BD today, but I«m still one prefilter short. Does anyone know if an ordinary gasoline in line filter fill be OK (gasoline diesel have different viscosities molecule size, so I don«t know if this might represent some trouble). A combined water trap filter for diesel costs way too much, and anyway the car I«m planning to try the BD on has its own diesel filter. Is there anyone who thinks unsing the gasoline filter as a diesel prefilter will bring any problems? Thanks, (Please, I need an urgent answer... I«m leaving in 3 hours) Christian [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send quot;unsubscribequot; messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send quot;unsubscribequot; messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send quot;unsubscribequot; messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ __ mensaje enviado desde http://www.iespana.es emails (pop)-paginas web (espacio ilimitado)-agenda-favoritos (bookmarks)-foros -Chat Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Free $5 Love Reading Risk Free! http://us.click.yahoo.com/3PCXaC/PfREAA/Ey.GAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send quot;unsubscribequot; messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] gas filter (urgent question... I«ve got little time)
Yes... twice. But I«ve noticed 2 (two) specs floating about. Should I refilter for the third time? Regards, Christian - Original Message - From: Appal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2002 12:19 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] gas filter (urgent question... I«ve got little time) Christian, Personally, I'd just use the existing filter system. I am presuming that you're filtering the fuel through at minimum a coffee filter before placing it in the tank or resevoir. Todd Swearingen - Original Message - From: Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2002 11:05 AM Subject: [biofuel] gas filter (urgent question... I«ve got little time) Hey everyone... I«m trying out my BD today, but I«m still one prefilter short. Does anyone know if an ordinary gasoline in line filter fill be OK (gasoline diesel have different viscosities molecule size, so I don«t know if this might represent some trouble). A combined water trap filter for diesel costs way too much, and anyway the car I«m planning to try the BD on has its own diesel filter. Is there anyone who thinks unsing the gasoline filter as a diesel prefilter will bring any problems? Thanks, (Please, I need an urgent answer... I«m leaving in 3 hours) Christian [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send quot;unsubscribequot; messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send quot;unsubscribequot; messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ __ mensaje enviado desde http://www.iespana.es emails (pop)-paginas web (espacio ilimitado)-agenda-favoritos (bookmarks)-foros -Chat Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Free $5 Love Reading Risk Free! http://us.click.yahoo.com/3PCXaC/PfREAA/Ey.GAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send quot;unsubscribequot; messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] gas filter (urgent question... I «ve got little time)
Roger that. on 6/29/02 8:22 AM, steve spence at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the gasoline filter before the diesel filter will be the sacrificial one filtering out any stuff that might clog your good diesel filter. happy voyages. Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter: http://www.webconx.com/subscribe.htm Renewable Energy Pages - http://www.webconx.dns2go.com/ Human powered devices, equipment, and transport - http://www.webconx.dns2go.com/2000/humanpower.htm [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2002 11:05 AM Subject: [biofuel] gas filter (urgent question... I«ve got little time) Hey everyone... I«m trying out my BD today, but I«m still one prefilter short. Does anyone know if an ordinary gasoline in line filter fill be OK (gasoline diesel have different viscosities molecule size, so I don«t know if this might represent some trouble). A combined water trap filter for diesel costs way too much, and anyway the car I«m planning to try the BD on has its own diesel filter. Is there anyone who thinks unsing the gasoline filter as a diesel prefilter will bring any problems? Thanks, (Please, I need an urgent answer... I«m leaving in 3 hours) Christian [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send quot;unsubscribequot; messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send quot;unsubscribequot; messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Free $5 Love Reading Risk Free! http://us.click.yahoo.com/3PCXaC/PfREAA/Ey.GAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send quot;unsubscribequot; messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] gas filter (urgent question... I «ve got little time)
Gasoline inline filter is excellent for this purpose (prefilter). Our cones would filter it better than coffee filters. Regards, Edward Beggs, BES, MSc http://www.biofuels.ca on 6/29/02 8:44 AM, Christian at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes... twice. But I«ve noticed 2 (two) specs floating about. Should I refilter for the third time? Regards, Christian - Original Message - From: Appal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2002 12:19 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] gas filter (urgent question... I«ve got little time) Christian, Personally, I'd just use the existing filter system. I am presuming that you're filtering the fuel through at minimum a coffee filter before placing it in the tank or resevoir. Todd Swearingen - Original Message - From: Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2002 11:05 AM Subject: [biofuel] gas filter (urgent question... I«ve got little time) Hey everyone... I«m trying out my BD today, but I«m still one prefilter short. Does anyone know if an ordinary gasoline in line filter fill be OK (gasoline diesel have different viscosities molecule size, so I don«t know if this might represent some trouble). A combined water trap filter for diesel costs way too much, and anyway the car I«m planning to try the BD on has its own diesel filter. Is there anyone who thinks unsing the gasoline filter as a diesel prefilter will bring any problems? Thanks, (Please, I need an urgent answer... I«m leaving in 3 hours) Christian [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send quot;unsubscribequot; messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send quot;unsubscribequot; messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ __ mensaje enviado desde http://www.iespana.es emails (pop)-paginas web (espacio ilimitado)-agenda-favoritos (bookmarks)-foros -Chat Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send quot;unsubscribequot; messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Free $5 Love Reading Risk Free! http://us.click.yahoo.com/3PCXaC/PfREAA/Ey.GAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send quot;unsubscribequot; messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] gas filter (urgent question... I«ve got little time)
Christian, A third filtration using the same filter type (micron size) wouldn't accomplish much. If the receiving container was clean, two filtration passes prior to hitting the system filter should be ample. Dino-diesel users go to a lot less pains and suffer no seriously ill consequences. Matter of fact, let 5 gallons of freshly pumped dino-diesel settle for a couple of weeks and look at the gunk on the bottom of the carboy. Todd Swearingen - Original Message - From: Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2002 11:44 AM Subject: Re: [biofuel] gas filter (urgent question... I«ve got little time) Yes... twice. But I«ve noticed 2 (two) specs floating about. Should I refilter for the third time? Regards, Christian - Original Message - From: Appal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2002 12:19 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] gas filter (urgent question... I«ve got little time) Christian, Personally, I'd just use the existing filter system. I am presuming that you're filtering the fuel through at minimum a coffee filter before placing it in the tank or resevoir. Todd Swearingen - Original Message - From: Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2002 11:05 AM Subject: [biofuel] gas filter (urgent question... I«ve got little time) Hey everyone... I«m trying out my BD today, but I«m still one prefilter short. Does anyone know if an ordinary gasoline in line filter fill be OK (gasoline diesel have different viscosities molecule size, so I don«t know if this might represent some trouble). A combined water trap filter for diesel costs way too much, and anyway the car I«m planning to try the BD on has its own diesel filter. Is there anyone who thinks unsing the gasoline filter as a diesel prefilter will bring any problems? Thanks, (Please, I need an urgent answer... I«m leaving in 3 hours) Christian [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send quot;unsubscribequot; messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send quot;unsubscribequot; messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ _ _ mensaje enviado desde http://www.iespana.es emails (pop)-paginas web (espacio ilimitado)-agenda-favoritos (bookmarks)-foros -Chat Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send quot;unsubscribequot; messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Free $5 Love Reading Risk Free! http://us.click.yahoo.com/3PCXaC/PfREAA/Ey.GAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send quot;unsubscribequot; messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] Energy Scandals and Climate Tragedies
http://www.alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=13450 AlterNet -- Energy Scandals and Climate Tragedies Michel Gelobter, AlterNet June 24, 2002 The controversy over the recent release of the 2002 Climate Action Report by the Environmental Protection Agency is just the latest in a series of environmental controversies to hit the Bush Administration. Before people were left to try solving the riddle of President Bush's actual climate change position, they witnessed a series of energy-related scandals that dogged Washington. Whether it was Enron, the California energy crisis, or the deliberations into the Bush-Cheney Energy Plan, troubling signals emanate from the White House with disturbing frequency. Take, for example, the release of documents tying Energy Secretary Spencer Abraham to meetings with donors, whose campaign contributions to both parties since 1999 topped $29 million. The payoff from those meetings was almost a thousandfold: legislation embodying $27 billion in subsidies. Believe it or not, this rich harvest is dwarfed by a decision the Bush Administration has already implemented: the U.S. withdrawal from the Kyoto Protocol on Climate Change. Had the U.S. respected our commitment to action on this critical issue, recent studies, including our own, have shown that the net cost to American fossil fuel industries could have been more than $45 billion a year. By contrast, estimates of the benefits of good climate policy to the economy as a whole range as high as $120 billion a year by 2020. While our economy took the hit, the energy industry walked away from the President's policy with its biggest payday ever. So while the fossil fuel industry cashes in on our climate reversal, who pays? First, the vast majority of American businesses. If the U.S. adopted a policy to internalize the climate-related costs of energy use, it would spawn a vast double dividend. Redirected investments would spur employment and send new investments where they belong, in companies fueled by workers and innovation instead of dependence on foreign oil. Furthermore, the reversal of American climate policy devalues other industry groups relative to fossil fuel. Because fossil fuel use is subsidized by bad climate policy, we use more of it than we should. Energy industries artificially appear to be better investments than they really are and attract capital investment that could be used more productively in the rest of the economy. A second victim of the energy industry's climate subsidy is our national security. Adopting the Kyoto Protocol could reduce by 2020 our dependence on oil by over 25%. There may not be a linear relationship between this number and the geo-political risks created by our dependence on oil-producing states, but we sorely need the flexibility that independence would allow. Because global warming is, after all, global, its effects threaten our security in the long-run as well. The U.S., which represents 4% of the world population, emits 25% of the carbon dioxide from fossil fuel, and we are historically responsible for over 35% of greenhouse gasses presently trapped in the atmosphere. As the impacts of our emissions become more clear with time, our reputation may grow from pariah on climate policy to responsible party for the natural disasters that climate change will entrain. Barring rapid action on our part, events like the submersion of 57% of Bangladesh in 1998 or last month's rapid breakup of Antarctic ice may increasingly be linked to American energy policy, whether or not these events are directly connected to climate change. Global warming is happening right here, right now, and there is no shortage of impacts on our own people. The elderly trapped in unprecedented urban heat waves, America's arctic populations facing dwindling fish catches, and farmers in the South and Southwest dependent on an increasingly volatile climate are all paying the price of our delay and inaction. All told, the United Nations Environment Program calculates the worldwide cost of inaction at $300 billion per year, as coastal property disappears, buildings are damaged, and species' habitats are irrevocably altered. These are costs we will now pass on to our children, our children's children, and the world for generations to come. The President's reversal on climate is the gift to the fossil fuel industry that keeps on taking from the rest of us. It is a testament to our democracy that, despite their millions in contributions, the energy industry still faces significant legal and political hurdles to getting their way on many other fronts. With its inaction on climate change the Bush administration has scored a windfall for an industry with enormous clout. Unfortunately, it has also laid the groundwork for a human and environmental tragedy of unprecedented proportion. Michel Gelobter is the Executive Director of Redefining Progress, an Oakland,
[biofuel] Engine makers, refiners can meet US diesel rule - EPA
http://www.planetark.org/dailynewsstory.cfm/newsid/16585/story.htm Planet Ark : Engine makers, refiners can meet US diesel rule - EPA USA: June 26, 2002 WASHINGTON - U.S. diesel engine manufacturers and petroleum refiners should have no problem in meeting new federal standards to reduce the amount of sulfur in diesel fuel, according to a new Environmental Protection Agency report. The report was a blow to the U.S. oil industry, which complained it would have a tough time complying with the EPA's goal of cutting the sulfur level in diesel fuel by 97 percent to just 15 parts per million (ppm). Refiners must begin producing the cleaner diesel by 2006. Large trucks, buses and other heavy duty vehicles must be on the market by 2007 with engines that can process the fuel. The EPA's report, which was released on Friday and is now being reviewed by an advisory panel this week, found that both industries are making significant progress in meeting the lower sulfur requirements. Some refiners are ahead of schedule and will be capable of producing the diesel fuel with the low sulfur levels as early as next year, it said. We are very encouraged by the actions some refiners have already taken in terms of announcing specific plan for low sulfur diesel fuel production, the EPA said. Nonetheless, small refiners will be given up to four additional years to meet the new standards. In addition, refiners that supply fuel to western states and Alaska will have until 2008 to produce the low-sulfur fuel. Separately, the EPA said engine makers plan to use technology that already exists to build engines with special filters that could process the cleaner diesel fuel. Although it is still early in the process, every major engine manufacturer that we visited told us that they expect to have emission-compliant products in 2007, EPA said. The oil industry and other business groups had sued the EPA in an effort to block the sulfur guidelines. Oil companies said the EPA requirements would cause them to close refiners instead of making expensive modifications to their facilities, resulting in fuel supply shortages and higher diesel prices. However, a federal court ruled last month in favor of the agency's rule making, saying technology was available to make diesel fuel that emitted fewer sulfur emissions. Story by Tom Doggett REUTERS NEWS SERVICE Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Free $5 Love Reading Risk Free! http://us.click.yahoo.com/3PCXaC/PfREAA/Ey.GAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send quot;unsubscribequot; messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] No more French fry WVO?
http://www.planetark.org/dailynewsstory.cfm/newsid/16556/story.htm Experts to examine safety of crisps, French fries SWITZERLAND: June 25, 2002 GENEVA - World Health Organisation (WHO) food safety experts start three days of meetings yesterday to probe reports that potato crisps, French fries and other carbohydrate-rich foods contain a cancer-causing substance. http://enn.com/news/wire-stories/2002/06/06252002/ap_47645.asp - 6/25/2002 WHO hosts urgent meeting on acrylamide in food http://enn.com/news/wire-stories/2002/06/06282002/ap_47695.asp - 6/28/2002 Scientists cite real concern about acrylamide in food Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Free $5 Love Reading Risk Free! http://us.click.yahoo.com/3PCXaC/PfREAA/Ey.GAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send quot;unsubscribequot; messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] Sun still rising on depleted North Sea oil wealth
http://www.planetark.org/dailynewsstory.cfm/newsid/16572/story.htm Planet Ark : FEATURE - Sun still rising on depleted North Sea oil wealth UK: June 26, 2002 ABERDEEN, Scotland - Stone-cold sober, probably male, aged over 40 and dressed in layer upon layer of protective clothing, the oil commuters of the North Sea set off to tap Britain's dwindling crude reserves. While the rest of us are downing coffee and toast, the men and handful of women of the rigs are already out there. They follow draconian safety drills, wriggle into survival suits and climb on board helicopters to begin work in the high risk, high reward environment of the British offshore oil sector. Since the oil wealth began to flow in the 1970s, the regular commute out to sea and weeks living in the ship-like atmosphere of an oil platform has become a way of life. I always think it's very normal. People just going about their business, said Bob Coull, who spent 18 years offshore, working for ExxonMobil. Conventional wisdom holds that the end may be drawing near for the oil workers of the North Sea rigs. The once-rich field and an aging workforce are hitting their limits. Around half of the reserves of the North Sea have already been tapped and the rest is more difficult and expensive to extract. Environmentalists worry about the impact of prolonging the drilling effort. But like its unusual working conditions, there is an unconventional logic among North Sea drillers. The local oil industry says that all the predictions so far have been too pessimistic, that safety and environmental standards are as strict in the North Sea as anywhere in the world and that alternative energy sources are not yet able to replace oil and gas. The logic seems to work. Some 195 miles out to sea, the first concrete platform, the Beryl Alpha, was given a life expectancy of 20 years when it was installed by Mobil, now part of ExxonMobil, on the Beryl oilfield in 1975. More than a quarter of a century on, there is no sign of it being decommissioned and the addition last year of facilities to process gas from the nearby Skene gas field has given it a new lease of life. At its peak in 1984, Beryl Alpha was producing some 120,000 barrels per day. It is still pumping an average of 90,000 to 100,000 barrels of Beryl - a high quality crude named after the wife of a former Mobil president. Gas production is around 450 million cubic feet per day, representing nearly five percent of total British gas demand or the needs of 3.2 million households. Daily oil production from Beryl would fill a fleet of 630 of the tanker trucks which deliver to gasoline stations. SUNRISE NOT SUNSET Tom Smith is managing director of Nessco communications, one of the Aberdeen-based oil service companies which in the past has worked under contract on Beryl Alpha and helped to make possible some of the free telephone calls home for the offshore staff. He argued: It's more a sunrise than a sunset industry. Every forecast has been wrong and it has been wrong in the right way. But, as the oil diminishes, he added: The future does not look like the past. There won't be any more Beryl Alphas. Equally, the industry hopes fervently that there won't be any more Piper Alphas. The explosion in 1988 on the platform operated by Occidental Petroleum (Caledonia) cost 167 lives, making it the worst accident in the history of the North Sea. Apart from rigorous safety drills, regulations include a blanket ban on alcohol and any other intoxicating substances which could impair concentration. Anyone caught boarding the helicopter to work smelling of alcohol would be breathalyzed. Offshore oil workers watched the World Cup football matches in a state of total sobriety. HIGH RISK, HIGH REWARD If life in the North Sea oil province carries a high price, it also yields a high reward. For an engineer, say, the salary is comparable with across the board engineering rates, but the time off is alluring. After two weeks working on a platform, staff are given about two weeks off. From an engineer's perspective, on Beryl Alpha there is the skill of working with the newly added state of the art Skene technology as well as the dense mass of pipes and cylinders of the original structure. As Mike McAdie, field superintendent on Beryl Alpha, put it: The challenge is the interface between technology 25 years old and new technology. When asked about the high point of his 18 years offshore, Bob Coull, who is now back on land working for ExxonMobil's Safety, Health and Environment team, declared: It's the camaraderie. Platform manager David Buckland said he feels a loyalty to the Beryl Alpha. Beryl has lived through some minor incidents, but she has come through them all well, he added. On the anecdotal level, some of the most painful incidents have been when the notorious fog, known in Aberdeen as the haar, descends just as two weeks on duty end, making
Re: [biofuel] No more French fry WVO?
I can't see this as having any impact on peoples love for deep fry. Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter: http://www.webconx.com/subscribe.htm Renewable Energy Pages - http://www.webconx.dns2go.com/ Human powered devices, equipment, and transport - http://www.webconx.dns2go.com/2000/humanpower.htm [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Cc: biofuels-biz@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2002 1:20 PM Subject: [biofuel] No more French fry WVO? http://www.planetark.org/dailynewsstory.cfm/newsid/16556/story.htm Experts to examine safety of crisps, French fries SWITZERLAND: June 25, 2002 GENEVA - World Health Organisation (WHO) food safety experts start three days of meetings yesterday to probe reports that potato crisps, French fries and other carbohydrate-rich foods contain a cancer-causing substance. http://enn.com/news/wire-stories/2002/06/06252002/ap_47645.asp - 6/25/2002 WHO hosts urgent meeting on acrylamide in food http://enn.com/news/wire-stories/2002/06/06282002/ap_47695.asp - 6/28/2002 Scientists cite real concern about acrylamide in food Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send quot;unsubscribequot; messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Free $5 Love Reading Risk Free! http://us.click.yahoo.com/3PCXaC/PfREAA/Ey.GAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send quot;unsubscribequot; messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] No more French fry WVO?
http://enn.com/news/wire-stories/2002/06/06252002/ap_47645.asp - 6/25/2002 WHO hosts urgent meeting on acrylamide in food Permit me to carry the thought process a wee tad further for us common laypersons. Anyone ever given much thought to the decay product of glycerin under conditions of inadequate combustion? Oddly enough it's call acrolein - rather toxic to living things, especially breathing things, at least according to every MSDS sheet I've read. So take that decay consideration, slap a bunch of potato shreds in a high temp tri-glyceride bath, or bake a grain product with a high oil content, and what might you think you'll get? Perhaps acrilomide? Glycerin, in the form of triglycerides, exposed to semi-high temps of frying and baking...~350* Fahrenheit. But then there is this statement: The Swedish researchers said that fried, oven-baked, and deep-fried potato and cereal products may contain high levels of acrylamide. The same results were not found in boiled products. A bit odd that water boils at 212* Fahrenheit, ~140* lower and a considerably less destructive temp range than baking or frying. Makes one wonder if there won't be a rush in the appliance and food processing markets for products that can cook foods in the temperature range of boiling, rather than frying and baking. Also makes one wonder if there won't be a rush for oils that are 100% FFAs, rather than a blend of tri-glycerides and FFAs. That would sure throw a kink in biodiesel manufacture when using waste restaurant oils. It would force every shadetree biodieseler to move towards high pressure esterification, rather than STP transesterification. It would also put some pressure on the animal feed and rendering industries to move away from using reprocessed WVOs as protein/energy additives to feed. Would be a shame to kill the AKC registered family pet simply by feeding it Puppy Chow. Todd Swearingen Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Free $5 Love Reading Risk Free! http://us.click.yahoo.com/3PCXaC/PfREAA/Ey.GAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send quot;unsubscribequot; messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
