[biofuels-biz] Fwd: EU Biofuels Directive
Forward from Martin Steele: Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2002 11:11 AM Subject: EU Biofuels Directive For information, a common position has now been achieved and will be formally adopted on 18 November. In very brief, provisions include - 1. 2% proportion by 31.12.2005 2. 5.75% proportion by 31.12.2010 3. Target of 20% proportion by 2020 4. Priority to be given by member states to promotion of those biofuels showing a very good cost-effective environmental balance, while taking into account competitiveness and security of supply. 5. Member States shall ensure that information is given to the public on the availability of biofuels. For percentages ... exceeding ... 5%, a specific labelling at the sales points shall be imposed. 6. Laws to be introduced by 31.12.2004. Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel at WebConX http://webconx.green-trust.org/2000/biofuel/biofuel.htm List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: http://archive.nnytech.net/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuels-biz] Biodiesel Calculator
Where can we find the actual subsidies for american biodiesel production? A significant cash credit is available to US producers from the USDA if they are registered with the EPA. This is assuming that the EPA will allow you to register as a commercial producer. I tried to do this last October, 2001 and the EPA got back to me in February 2002 saying that not only would they not let me register as a commercial biodiesel producer, but that the fine for being in production without registering is up to $25,000 per day and that I should never have started to produce biodiesel in the first place and the fine could be retroactive to the day that I filed for registration. Nevertheless, there are USDA subsidies for the commercial production of biodiesel. Just a few weeks ago, World Energy Corp., the largest producer of biodiesel in this country, asked for help from this website and from many others in asking for petitions to the government, USDA, to stop a republican effort to reduce existing subsidies to the producers of biodiesel. This subsidy is called a producer price support, among other names, and must be very substantial. World Energy Corp. reported that the realignment of subsidies would cause their company to have to raise prices by about 90¢ per gallon. That means that retail biodiesel would increase by more than $1 per gallon. I believe there are two types of subsidies. First is a large payment, over $1 per gallon, as a one time payment for bringing on new production facilities to make biodiesel. That is measured on an annual basis. For example, if you start a new processing line of, say, 100,000 gallons per year, the check from the government would be in excess of $100,000. The second type of subsidy, at much less than $1 per gallon, is a subsidy for each gallon of biodiesel produced. I'm told that the subsidy for the production of biodiesel from virgin soybean oil is far larger than the subsidy for biodiesel made from recycled yellow grease, or any other source. What kind of sense does that make? Just shows you who has the biggest lobby in the area, ADM. Perhaps some of the realignment of subsidies recently decided upon by the republicans was to readjust the money for all biodiesel sources being more in align with each other. Maybe not. So, where is this subsidy information available? Its public policy, afterall, and must be accessible. Anyone know? Tom Leue Yellow Biodiesel www.yellowbiodiesel.com In a message dated 11/13/02 7:17:56 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Useful tool to calculate subsidy payments for oilseeds: http://www.ncga.com/farmbill/calculator/calculator.htm Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Share the magic of Harry Potter with Yahoo! Messenger http://us.click.yahoo.com/4Q_cgB/JmBFAA/46VHAA/9bTolB/TM -~- Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel at WebConX http://webconx.green-trust.org/2000/biofuel/biofuel.htm List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: http://archive.nnytech.net/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuels-biz] Biodiesel Calculator
Hello Tom Interesting questions about subsidies. There should be answers available, if nobody here knows already and a thorough web search doesn't turn it up then badgering the USDA should help. I'm told that the subsidy for the production of biodiesel from virgin soybean oil is far larger than the subsidy for biodiesel made from recycled yellow grease, or any other source. What kind of sense does that make? I much agree with you - it's not about Big Soy, or certainly shouldn't be, and not solely about agriculture either. There's surely more to renewable energy than just the same old handouts for agribiz at everyone else's expense. And if not, then that requires some pressure. You'd think the big enviro groups would be alive to such issues. They've certainly got the resources, far more so than we have. But they don't like biodiesel, because biodiesel makes diesels look good, and we couldn't possibly have that, now could we? Might weaken our knee-jerk diesel-bashing campaigns. (Sorry!) Where can we find the actual subsidies for american biodiesel production? A significant cash credit is available to US producers from the USDA if they are registered with the EPA. This is assuming that the EPA will allow you to register as a commercial producer. I tried to do this last October, 2001 and the EPA got back to me in February 2002 saying that not only would they not let me register as a commercial biodiesel producer, but that the fine for being in production without registering is up to $25,000 per day and that I should never have started to produce biodiesel in the first place and the fine could be retroactive to the day that I filed for registration. You should try again. As a couple of previous messages have stated, they've changed their stance, after much to-ing and fro-ing. EPA now says small producers do qualify for the exemptions, both Tier I and Tier II, and can register as producers of on-road fuel, as long as the product meets ASTM standards. Speak to Joe Sopata. 202-564-9034 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Best Keith Nevertheless, there are USDA subsidies for the commercial production of biodiesel. Just a few weeks ago, World Energy Corp., the largest producer of biodiesel in this country, asked for help from this website and from many others in asking for petitions to the government, USDA, to stop a republican effort to reduce existing subsidies to the producers of biodiesel. This subsidy is called a producer price support, among other names, and must be very substantial. World Energy Corp. reported that the realignment of subsidies would cause their company to have to raise prices by about 90¢ per gallon. That means that retail biodiesel would increase by more than $1 per gallon. I believe there are two types of subsidies. First is a large payment, over $1 per gallon, as a one time payment for bringing on new production facilities to make biodiesel. That is measured on an annual basis. For example, if you start a new processing line of, say, 100,000 gallons per year, the check from the government would be in excess of $100,000. The second type of subsidy, at much less than $1 per gallon, is a subsidy for each gallon of biodiesel produced. I'm told that the subsidy for the production of biodiesel from virgin soybean oil is far larger than the subsidy for biodiesel made from recycled yellow grease, or any other source. What kind of sense does that make? Just shows you who has the biggest lobby in the area, ADM. Perhaps some of the realignment of subsidies recently decided upon by the republicans was to readjust the money for all biodiesel sources being more in align with each other. Maybe not. So, where is this subsidy information available? Its public policy, afterall, and must be accessible. Anyone know? Tom Leue Yellow Biodiesel www.yellowbiodiesel.com In a message dated 11/13/02 7:17:56 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Useful tool to calculate subsidy payments for oilseeds: http://www.ncga.com/farmbill/calculator/calculator.htm Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Share the magic of Harry Potter with Yahoo! Messenger http://us.click.yahoo.com/4Q_cgB/JmBFAA/46VHAA/9bTolB/TM -~- Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel at WebConX http://webconx.green-trust.org/2000/biofuel/biofuel.htm List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: http://archive.nnytech.net/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] Square Watermelons
I kid you not: all we need to do is apply selective breeding to obtain high-cellulose seaweed to get a huge feedstock of renewable ethanol fuel for transportation Farmers decorate square-shaped watermelons with ribbons before shipping them to an agricultural cooperative in Zentsuji, western Japan, on Monday June 17, 2002. The watermelons, developed to save space in refrigerators, are priced at a whopping 10,000 yen (US$80) each. Some 450 to 500 watermelons will be sent to department stores and other places in Tokyo and Osaka - for display rather than eating. http://www.strangecosmos.com/images/picturejokes/5376.jpg I wonder if they're seedless as well? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Share the magic of Harry Potter with Yahoo! Messenger http://us.click.yahoo.com/4Q_cgB/JmBFAA/46VHAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] Re: Square Watermelons
Ahem. Apparently they are not GM fruit. They are grown in glass boxes and they grow into that shape. I should have guessed since bonzai trees are similarly shaped with wire wrapped around their branches. --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], womplex_oo1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I kid you not: all we need to do is apply selective breeding to obtain high-cellulose seaweed to get a huge feedstock of renewable ethanol fuel for transportation Farmers decorate square-shaped watermelons with ribbons before shipping them to an agricultural cooperative in Zentsuji, western Japan, on Monday June 17, 2002. The watermelons, developed to save space in refrigerators, are priced at a whopping 10,000 yen (US$80) each. Some 450 to 500 watermelons will be sent to department stores and other places in Tokyo and Osaka - for display rather than eating. http://www.strangecosmos.com/images/picturejokes/5376.jpg I wonder if they're seedless as well? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Share the magic of Harry Potter with Yahoo! Messenger http://us.click.yahoo.com/4Q_cgB/JmBFAA/46VHAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] Re: Square Watermelons
womplex_oo1 wrote: Ahem. Apparently they are not GM fruit. They are grown in glass boxes and they grow into that shape. I should have guessed since bonzai trees are similarly shaped with wire wrapped around their branches. I hope you know the difference between GM fruit (above) and selective breeding (below), I'm not sure if you're using them interchangeably here, it looks like you might be. They're altogether different. The second is how we've achieved virtually all our food supplies, over many generations, and the first is how we might lose it all again in only one or two, LOL! If you don't know the difference or are in any doubt about it, do yourself a favour and spend a bit of time prowling around here: http://www.ngin.org.uk Norfolk Genetic Information Network (ngin): http://www.organicconsumers.org/gelink.html Genetically Engineered Food: Biotech, Biotechnology, gmo, genetically modified http://www.i-sis.org.uk/ ISIS: http://www.thecampaign.org/ The Campaign to Label Genetically Engineered Foods Loading oceans with high-cellulose GM seaweed to get a huge feedstock of renewable ethanol fuel for transportation would not be the best idea of the week. Keith --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], womplex_oo1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I kid you not: all we need to do is apply selective breeding to obtain high-cellulose seaweed to get a huge feedstock of renewable ethanol fuel for transportation Farmers decorate square-shaped watermelons with ribbons before shipping them to an agricultural cooperative in Zentsuji, western Japan, on Monday June 17, 2002. The watermelons, developed to save space in refrigerators, are priced at a whopping 10,000 yen (US$80) each. Some 450 to 500 watermelons will be sent to department stores and other places in Tokyo and Osaka - for display rather than eating. http://www.strangecosmos.com/images/picturejokes/5376.jpg I wonder if they're seedless as well? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Share the magic of Harry Potter with Yahoo! Messenger http://us.click.yahoo.com/4Q_cgB/JmBFAA/46VHAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] on line.
Psicologia del CNR: Siglato l'accordo per la realizzazione di simulazioni ludico-didattiche basate su metodi sviluppati in campi di ricerca d'avanguardia quali l'intelligenza artificiale, le scienze cognitive, i sistemi neurali artificiali e gli algoritmi genetici. Tali simulazioni saranno utilizzate in previsione dello sviluppo di prodotti multimediali per le comunit virtuali, la formazione a distanza, l'intrattenimento, l'edutainment. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Re: Square Watermelons
They also grow square bamboo, which is far easier to build with. It is grown in a wooden frame. Bright Blessings, Kim womplex_oo1 wrote: Ahem. Apparently they are not GM fruit. They are grown in glass boxes and they grow into that shape. I should have guessed since bonzai trees are similarly shaped with wire wrapped around their branches. --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], womplex_oo1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I kid you not: all we need to do is apply selective breeding to obtain high-cellulose seaweed to get a huge feedstock of renewable ethanol fuel for transportation Farmers decorate square-shaped watermelons with ribbons before shipping them to an agricultural cooperative in Zentsuji, western Japan, on Monday June 17, 2002. The watermelons, developed to save space in refrigerators, are priced at a whopping 10,000 yen (US$80) each. Some 450 to 500 watermelons will be sent to department stores and other places in Tokyo and Osaka - for display rather than eating. http://www.strangecosmos.com/images/picturejokes/5376.jpg I wonder if they're seedless as well? Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Share the magic of Harry Potter with Yahoo! Messenger http://us.click.yahoo.com/4Q_cgB/JmBFAA/46VHAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] Fwd: EU Biofuels Directive
Forward from Martin Steele: Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2002 11:11 AM Subject: EU Biofuels Directive For information, a common position has now been achieved and will be formally adopted on 18 November. In very brief, provisions include - 1. 2% proportion by 31.12.2005 2. 5.75% proportion by 31.12.2010 3. Target of 20% proportion by 2020 4. Priority to be given by member states to promotion of those biofuels showing a very good cost-effective environmental balance, while taking into account competitiveness and security of supply. 5. Member States shall ensure that information is given to the public on the availability of biofuels. For percentages ... exceeding ... 5%, a specific labelling at the sales points shall be imposed. 6. Laws to be introduced by 31.12.2004. Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] veggie conversion on Jetta, whats involved?
the '98 jetta works wonderfully well with biodiesel. Also with veggie oil conversions, of the 2 tank heated variety. never use cold oil. Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter Discussion Boards. Read about Sustainable Technology: http://www.green-trust.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2002 12:32 AM Subject: Re: [biofuel] veggie conversion on Jetta, whats involved? Hi Carl I recently puchased a 98 VW Jetta diesel and I understand some of the seals and fuel lines may not last with B100. I'm sure that's not true. All European cars made since the early 90s are biodiesel-resistant. If this is not correct and people are running these engines without any long term problems on B100, I'm all ears. My first thought though is to do a grease conversion and I could use feedback on that. TDI? http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_TDI.html The TDI-SVO controversy I wonder about things like where can I squeeze in a tank? What the best way to pre-heat the oil is, etc. I also have a Mitsubishi Fuso commercial truck that I want to convert. I'd heard the same issues with deteriation to seals being an issue to some extent and thought straight oil conversion would be easier for that vehicle than replacing crucial seals with synthetic ones. Carl What year is it? I don't think any vehicles have used rubber seals since the mid-90s at the latest. Check with Mitsubishi, but I'm sure you can use biodiesel, just put it in and go. Best Keith Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Share the magic of Harry Potter with Yahoo! Messenger http://us.click.yahoo.com/4Q_cgB/JmBFAA/46VHAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] veggie conversion on Jetta, whats involved?
Hi all My first message to the bio fuels group, so I hope my ettiquette is OK. I have a 1982 Peugeot 504 diesel which has had the seals replaced recently with modern materials. We had a switch to low sulphur diesel which resulted in claims for compensation which ended up as free rebuilds of the injector pump! I have a choice - make bio diesel (involves making a processing plant outside car) or - use staight oil with double tank and heat exchanger (works inside the car). It seem a bit unnecessary to preheat the tank with all the costs, risks of long piperuns and leaks. Why not just make an efficient heat exchanger to bring the oil up to engine coolant temperature in front of the firewall. It means you can have a large tank since the whole volume doesn't have to be preheated before you change to straight oil. My question - has anyone converted a Peugeot 504? to what system? and how has it been in terms of problems and reliability? Any other comments welcome. Richard Swinton Steve Spence [EMAIL PROTECTED] 15/11/2002 12:08 Please respond to biofuel To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com cc: Subject:Re: [biofuel] veggie conversion on Jetta, whats involved? the '98 jetta works wonderfully well with biodiesel. Also with veggie oil conversions, of the 2 tank heated variety. never use cold oil. Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter Discussion Boards. Read about Sustainable Technology: http://www.green-trust.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2002 12:32 AM Subject: Re: [biofuel] veggie conversion on Jetta, whats involved? Hi Carl I recently puchased a 98 VW Jetta diesel and I understand some of the seals and fuel lines may not last with B100. I'm sure that's not true. All European cars made since the early 90s are biodiesel-resistant. If this is not correct and people are running these engines without any long term problems on B100, I'm all ears. My first thought though is to do a grease conversion and I could use feedback on that. TDI? http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_TDI.html The TDI-SVO controversy I wonder about things like where can I squeeze in a tank? What the best way to pre-heat the oil is, etc. I also have a Mitsubishi Fuso commercial truck that I want to convert. I'd heard the same issues with deteriation to seals being an issue to some extent and thought straight oil conversion would be easier for that vehicle than replacing crucial seals with synthetic ones. Carl What year is it? I don't think any vehicles have used rubber seals since the mid-90s at the latest. Check with Mitsubishi, but I'm sure you can use biodiesel, just put it in and go. Best Keith Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient or received it in error, please delete the message and notify sender. Views expressed are those of the individual sender and are not necessarily the views of their organisation. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] veggie conversion on Jetta, whats involved?
Two tank system with heating at the engine bay (and return fuel...heated...back to the tank) This is the way our system was designed. Also, we are pleased to advise that we have a dealer in your country, Mr. Steven Hobbs. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mr. Hobbs grows Canola, presses oil, makes biodiesel, and sells our system. He will also be selling our G3 Diesel Fuel Lubricity Additive, a Canola oil derivative, proven effective at treat rates as low as 0.1% to restore lubricity to low sulphur diesel, and with observed engine wear particle reductions of up to 40%, at 1% treat rate. (in testing done by the University of Saskatchewan - the link is on our web site) See: http://www.biofuels.ca Edward Beggs Neoteric Biofuels Inc. BC, Canada On Thursday, November 14, 2002, at 05:46 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all My first message to the bio fuels group, so I hope my ettiquette is OK. I have a 1982 Peugeot 504 diesel which has had the seals replaced recently with modern materials. We had a switch to low sulphur diesel which resulted in claims for compensation which ended up as free rebuilds of the injector pump! I have a choice - make bio diesel (involves making a processing plant outside car) or - use staight oil with double tank and heat exchanger (works inside the car). It seem a bit unnecessary to preheat the tank with all the costs, risks of long piperuns and leaks. Why not just make an efficient heat exchanger to bring the oil up to engine coolant temperature in front of the firewall. It means you can have a large tank since the whole volume doesn't have to be preheated before you change to straight oil. My question - has anyone converted a Peugeot 504? to what system? and how has it been in terms of problems and reliability? Any other comments welcome. Richard Swinton Steve Spence [EMAIL PROTECTED] 15/11/2002 12:08 Please respond to biofuel To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com cc: Subject:Re: [biofuel] veggie conversion on Jetta, whats involved? the '98 jetta works wonderfully well with biodiesel. Also with veggie oil conversions, of the 2 tank heated variety. never use cold oil. Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter Discussion Boards. Read about Sustainable Technology: http://www.green-trust.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2002 12:32 AM Subject: Re: [biofuel] veggie conversion on Jetta, whats involved? Hi Carl I recently puchased a 98 VW Jetta diesel and I understand some of the seals and fuel lines may not last with B100. I'm sure that's not true. All European cars made since the early 90s are biodiesel-resistant. If this is not correct and people are running these engines without any long term problems on B100, I'm all ears. My first thought though is to do a grease conversion and I could use feedback on that. TDI? http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_TDI.html The TDI-SVO controversy I wonder about things like where can I squeeze in a tank? What the best way to pre-heat the oil is, etc. I also have a Mitsubishi Fuso commercial truck that I want to convert. I'd heard the same issues with deteriation to seals being an issue to some extent and thought straight oil conversion would be easier for that vehicle than replacing crucial seals with synthetic ones. Carl What year is it? I don't think any vehicles have used rubber seals since the mid-90s at the latest. Check with Mitsubishi, but I'm sure you can use biodiesel, just put it in and go. Best Keith Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient or received it in error, please delete the message and notify sender. Views expressed are those of the individual sender and are not necessarily the views of their organisation.
