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From: Rachel's Democracy Health News #831, Dec. 1, 2005
The Emperor Of Risk Assessment Isn't Wearing Any Clothes
By Peter Montague
Some of my best friends still put their faith in numerical risk
assessments. For example, over in Jersey City, N.J., local people are
now
Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 19:00:47 EST
Reply-To: Sustainable Agriculture Network Discussion Group
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Subject: Free Range Birds and Avian Flu
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The problem of Avian Flu is an opportunity for us to stop and ask
some very basic
Keith:
The environmental problem is exactly as you describe, however it is a subset of
the profit Vs health picture and is compounded by globalization.
There are significant geographic alternatives for most manufacturers/
polluters. Cumulative pollution levels are not constrained by
Good Day to you Kim,
I am somewhat aware of the campaign against pesticide testing on
children thanks to Mike Weaver's recent post in which he wrote:
If you haven't already done so please learn more and send an instant
letter to the EPA here (public comment period expires Dec.12)
The aspen Times is carrying a story about problems with buses running on 5% bio diesel mixture.
Is it normal to have your fuel tank etc. clogged up with a green algae substance, or has it to do with the 5% mixture?
Does the fact that the Bio diesel was manufactured from Soybeans have any thing
Thanks Keith,
I caught them all on this end so no damage here. Seems this is the risk
we take to be a part of the information age. I wish to thank you for
all your efforts on that end. What a great list this is ! I thank you
for all your efforts.
Jim
Keith Addison wrote:
Dear all
I'm
It seems the worst thing mentioned in the article was changing fuel
filters. Probably gunk from the dino fuel.
BTW- the article mentions that we don't have enough acreage to grow
enough vegetable oil to replace just the diesel being currently consumed
in this country. Anyone know if that is a
I assumed that because they had attachments and you have said you never
send attachments, they were viruses so I deleted them. This is a correct
assumtion, isn't it?
Marilyn
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Keith Addison wrote:
Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 19:00:47 EST
Reply-To: Sustainable Agriculture Network Discussion Group
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Free Range Birds and Avian Flu
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[snip]
We need to even the playing field and get a true
It's not true; I made it up as an example of what we can expect instead
of any sort or reasoned debate about the actual problems facing the US.
It's a hoax.
-Mike
JJJN wrote:
LIBERAL PLAN TO REMOVE THE CHRIST FROM CHRISTMAS AND MAKE IT
X-MAS.
My fellow American, I have learned
Thanks Keith,
I caught them all on this end so no damage here. Seems this is the risk
we take to be a part of the information age. I wish to thank you for
all your efforts on that end. What a great list this is ! I thank you
for all your efforts.
You're most welcome Jim, thanks for saying
It seems the worst thing mentioned in the article was changing fuel
filters. Probably gunk from the dino fuel.
BTW- the article mentions that we don't have enough acreage to grow
enough vegetable oil to replace just the diesel being currently consumed
in this country. Anyone know if that is a
I assumed that because they had attachments and you have said you never
send attachments, they were viruses so I deleted them. This is a correct
assumtion, isn't it?
Marilyn
Yes. Delete all attachments unread, don't try to open them. But your
virus protection should be doing that for you,.
Helklo David
I think you don't know much about organics, eh?
Try this:
An Agricultural Testament by Sir Albert Howard, Oxford University Press, 1940.
11. The Retreat of the Crop and the Animal before the Parasite
Humus and Disease Resistance
The Mycorrhizal Association and Disease
The
We here in the US have been giving away our treasure for 3 years now,
not to mention spending billions abroad on oil.
Jason and Katie wrote:
We need a class struggle here in the bad old USA, i doubt it would do any
good to Venezuela, sapping the energy like that, but the class gap needs to
be
Moveon.org also solicits funding. My family has given them money.
Garth Kim Travis wrote:
Greetings,
If you are watching what is happening on the pesticide testing on children,
forum, yes, we are making a big difference. In Texas, we now have legal
raw milk, due to such campaignes. Move on
well.
Kind regards.
Isabel
Here's the offending article (you might at least provide a url next
time). Pioneering, LOL!
http://www.aspentimes.com/article/20051204/NEWS/112040022
Aspen Times News for Aspen Colorado - News
Bean-based biodiesel gives buses bellyache
By Chad Abraham
December 4
Hello Rad
Have you read any more of Peter Montague's writings? There's a lot of
it in the list archives if you don't feel like browsing Rachel's site.
http://snipurl.com/khaj
Search results for 'Rachel's'
I think it addresses a lot of your (very good!) points. Actually
there's a lot of other
And I think letting the other be the only voice framing the argument is
flat stupid. If there were a bill up to regulate BD; I would go to
Capital Hill and present facts to lawmakes. I don't pretend it's a fair
process, I've lived in the DC area my whole life - I know how it works.
Maybe
choice? You didn't have a very positive
response when you raised it here before. In fact nobody thought it
was a good idea. Oh well.
Kind regards.
Isabel
Here's the offending article (you might at least provide a url next
time). Pioneering, LOL!
http://www.aspentimes.com/article/20051204/NEWS
My Macintosh doesn't delete them. Maybe if I tried to open them there would
be a warning, but I never opened any attachment that did not come from
someone I knew was sending one. Is there a Mac virus protection that
automatically deletes attachments? I wouldn't want it to delete the ones I know
Mike,
I've have read your posts
with interest and, at times with amusement. I don't think that anyone who has
followed your posts would question your integrity or your motivation for forming
a biodiesel advocacy group.
As for funding
... the advocacy sites I've been able to find, all
I've read some disgusting things before.
I've seen some even more disgusting things. Helped clean them up, too.
And I have rarely had a problem with my stomach churning nearly as much as it is now. That... apalling atrocity and the unforgiveable practices since then are just, just...
Thanks for the link Keith. I'm at least a few weeks away from recreational
reading, but I'm interested and will take it in.
Rad
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From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005
Greetings,
Thank you for a wonderful post. I am fortunate that I found a country vet
that treats my animals my way, and no vaccinations. [My cat is allergic to
them.] My animals eat raw and have recovered from all their diseases and
are now healthy. My vet actually learned from this and is
The NBB does do some of this advocacy, although we all know it is
basically a lobby for the soy industry.
I'm more inclined to put my $100 into forming a co-operative association.
It seems more practical and hands-on. It provides very real protection, as
an incorporation, yet offers an
Hi Keith
It seems as if you don't think it is a good idea to use Jatropha as a source to produce bio diesel from?
When I originally posed the question I only received a few messages and none of them was negative.
Maybe I missed something!
As I originally explained we know nothing about
Keith Addison wrote:
Helklo David
I think you don't know much about organics, eh?
Not as much as you or others on this list. More than most though.
Try this:
An Agricultural Testament by Sir Albert Howard, Oxford University Press, 1940.
11. The Retreat of the Crop and the Animal before
Greetings,
So does JTF, I have given money to them. There is a difference between a
voluntary donation and a manditory charge to be a member. I do support
many of the organizations that I work with but when I choose to.
Bright Blessings,
Kim
At 11:16 AM 12/4/2005, you wrote:
Moveon.org also
Dear Kurt;
I'm with you on the Bhopal atrocity -- and immediately
sent it on to everyone i know, including truthout.org
(an investigative story there could reach many
millions). The saddest part of it is just how clearly
it shows the absolute amorality and subsequent
immorality of the global
I wonder if someone on this forum could help me?
I have no biodiesel options around my home, and I'm concerned that running
the lower sulphur petroleum diesel fuel will damage my injection pump.
I'd like to add some SVO into the petro diesel to add lubricity to the fuel,
and I'm wondering if
Garth Kim Travis wrote:
The question I have is about the theory of tuna and cats. The theory is
that there is an excess amount of ash in tuna and that it can cause renal
failure in middle aged cats. It is not suppose to make any difference if
it was canned or fresh. Have you ever
Sheesh,
Ok jokes on me, (giggle) goodness sakes if it didn't just sound so much
like what Rush or Rove or one of those Preachers for hire would say
though. Should have read the whole thread closer.
Well any way Merry X-mas Mike.
Jim
Mike Weaver wrote:
It's not true; I made it up as an example
Hi Isabel
I heard today that castor beans are an excellent source of biodiesel. Does
anyone know if this is true?
Marilyn
Biofuel@sustainablelists.org wrote:
Note: Forwarded Email Message Below:
Hi Keith
It seems as if you don't think it is a good idea to use Jatropha as a source
to
The following was sent to me and seemed relevant to recent discussions on
this list about efforts to control the dissemination of news and information.
Marilyn
Dear Friend:
A host of recent developments have made it clear that the Bush White House
is doing battle with the journalistic
Hello Dana,
you will have full lubricity properties if adding 5% of SVO or BD to the
diesel oil. But, BD is preferrable due to the coking properties of the SVO.
I would suggest a BD with a high content of olelic acid e.g. from canola
,soybean or sunflower oil.
With best regards
AGERATEC AB
Jan
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