Re: [Biofuel] tirating a virgin oil

2006-08-21 Thread Tonomár András
Hi Rafal, If it is virgin oil from the supermarket, you should not worry about water. I had the same problem in my early batches, and I think it is the lye. do some additional test batches with more and more lye. This eay you have an idea and a feel for the process. What you should look for is a

Re: [Biofuel] sticker on diesel pumps

2006-08-21 Thread Logan Vilas
All new on road vehicles manufactured, for use in the US, in model year 2007 and up must have catalytic converts on them to help reduce exhaust emissions. That includes 18 wheelers. The high sulfur content will plug them; the ULSD will allow the use. Logan Vilas Bio-Fuel Enterprises,

Re: [Biofuel] What the bleep -was galloway

2006-08-21 Thread Joe Street
Yes and Jagadis Chandra Bose was experimenting with milimeter waves ( 60 GHZ radio waves) back in the 1890's before Marconi and Otto Lilienthal was flying under control hundreds of times in the 1890's before the Wright Brothers..but history remembers only certain ones eh? What's up with

Re: [Biofuel] tirating a virgin oil

2006-08-21 Thread Thomas Kelly
Rafal, 1 - 2L test batches w. virgin oil . Good 99% pure KOH V. Good (If you are concerned about the purity and have NaOH of known purity you can test the KOH) Temp and agitation also sound good. If there is water in the methanol you will make more soap

Re: [Biofuel] What the bleep -was galloway

2006-08-21 Thread Kirk McLoren
Political correctness is part of it I think. Tesla was a maverick and Edison a mainstream guy. When JP Morgan realized what Tesla was up to with his global wireless power scheme he pulled the rug out from under Tesla. Even though Tesla invented the induction motor he died poor and alone. I think

Re: [Biofuel] Blair feels let down by Bush [welcome to the club!]

2006-08-21 Thread Kirk McLoren
Damage control. Salvaging an untenable position. Twas ever thus.Kirk"D. Mindock" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:I think BlairCo itselfisn't too bright. To recognize nowthat Bush is of low intellect is just a tad tardy, huh?Peace, D. Mindock= Report: Blair feels

Re: [Biofuel] tirating a virgin oil

2006-08-21 Thread Jan Warnqvist
Hello Emre, Rafal et al. I have to say that I partially disagree with some of your statements. The limit of FFA for a flawless trans-esterification is drawn at 5mg KOH/g of oil. Any value above will demand pre-treatment of the oil. It is always important to check the water content, which should be

Re: [Biofuel] Reaction completion

2006-08-21 Thread Joe Street
Hi Scott; I notice my reactor drops a few degrees during the reaction too. I suspect this is due to that addition of methoxide which does warm a bit but is cooler than the reactor temperature for sure (but I have not bothered to do the heat calculations). Some reactions are endothermic

Re: [Biofuel] Blair feels let down by Bush [welcome to the club!]

2006-08-21 Thread dwoodard
Strange, isn't it? One possible explanation might be that the people in the Bush administration don't care about the thoughts of their allies, about the Palestinian problem, or about human suffering in any other area, or about the interests of the American people. Perhaps they are only

Re: [Biofuel] tirating a virgin oil

2006-08-21 Thread Thomas Kelly
Jan, With well-deserved respect to you Rafal's oil titrated to .925 - 1.0 mgKOH/g of oil. This is far below the 5mgKOH/L of oil that you mention as the limit of FFA for flawless a trans-esterification. It is, however, a significant enough amount that, if excluded, could contribute

Re: [Biofuel] tirating a virgin oil

2006-08-21 Thread Joe Street
Jan; Thank you very much for that tidbit of information. 0.5% is that by weight or volume? I use heat and vacuum to dry my oil prior to the process and I regulary can remove 1% v/v water from oil that looks very clear and has no liquid water at the bottom. On occasion I have been impatient

Re: [Biofuel] {Disarmed} Fw: Rural Oregon town feels pinch of poverty

2006-08-21 Thread pvpa selvam
This story is also true of Brazil where rich are becoming rich and poor becoming miserable and hence street violence is growing up , there is no place in the jail an d all the money is only in the hand of the 3 percent of the population and hence other cannot do anything If there is no local

Re: [Biofuel] Reaction completion

2006-08-21 Thread pvpa selvam
This is very interesting question as some ethanol based reaction are reported , not to need energy input ,and can go at lower temperature favourable but most of the reactor need energy , that is absorbing energy to release the products Pannirselvam P.VHi Scott;I notice my reactor drops a few

[Biofuel] Kind of... interesting?

2006-08-21 Thread DHAJOGLO
So I get this cyptic email from a collegue stating the Armada he had been waiting for has finally arived. So he proceeds to describe how he went to the Armada down at the river and had a tour of the raft, brought them some cookies, chocolate, and rope and was impressed. Needless to say, I was

Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Rural Oregon town feels pinch ofpoverty

2006-08-21 Thread D. Mindock
Hi Pannirselvam, This story is also true of Brazil where rich are becoming rich and poor becoming miserable and hence street violence is growing up , there is no place in the jail an d all the money is only in the hand of the 3 percent of the population and hence other cannot do

Re: [Biofuel] tirating a virgin oil

2006-08-21 Thread Rafal Szczesniak
On Mon, Aug 21, 2006 at 10:08:58AM -0400, Thomas Kelly wrote: Rafal, 1 - 2L test batches w. virgin oil . Good 99% pure KOH V. Good (If you are concerned about the purity and have NaOH of known purity you can test the KOH) I know that. However, KOH that I've

Re: [Biofuel] tirating a virgin oil

2006-08-21 Thread Rafal Szczesniak
On Mon, Aug 21, 2006 at 09:57:30AM +0200, Tonom?r Andr?s wrote: Hi Rafal, If it is virgin oil from the supermarket, you should not worry about water. Yes, that's exactly what it is. Cheap brand made for a supermarket by a known oil producer (n-th pressing of residues after they make their own

Re: [Biofuel] Blair feels let down by Bush [welcome to the club!]

2006-08-21 Thread D. Mindock
Strange, isn't it? One possible explanation might be that the people in the Bush administration don't care about the thoughts of their allies, about the Palestinian problem, or about human suffering in any other area, or about the interests of the American people. You are right on all

Re: [Biofuel] sticker on diesel pumps

2006-08-21 Thread Zeke Yewdall
What does biodiesel do to the catalytic converters? No sulfur, but how about all the polyaromatic hydrocarbons?ZOn 8/21/06, Logan Vilas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All new on road vehicles manufactured, for use in the US, in model year 2007 and up must have catalytic converts on

Re: [Biofuel] sticker on diesel pumps

2006-08-21 Thread Kirk McLoren
I assume air injection is incorporated. In that case they finish oxidising.Zeke Yewdall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What does biodiesel do to the catalytic converters? No sulfur, but how about all the polyaromatic hydrocarbons?Z On 8/21/06, Logan Vilas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All new on

Re: [Biofuel] plug in hybrid insight?

2006-08-21 Thread Zeke Yewdall
Yeah, researching the drive systems more, it seems that the Prius system, because it is capable of running from electric alone, could be used this way, whereas the Insight, having the motor just assisting the gasoline motor in accelerating and allowing a smaller engine, can't run on electric

Re: [Biofuel] sticker on diesel pumps

2006-08-21 Thread Logan vilas
I have no clue what the effects are or any other little secrets used to make it more efficient. I would guess that bio-diesel does not cause a problem, or that the converters for diesel are different. Logan Vilas -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On

Re: [Biofuel] tirating a virgin oil

2006-08-21 Thread Derick Giorchino
I have found if you use a 2 liter bottle for the test batch and put a sipping nipple as found on sports bottles turn the test batch bottle upside down let it settle for the 12 to 24 hours the glycerin will drain out into a jar very well. I don't stop at thee end of the glycerin. I get a few ounces

Re: [Biofuel] sticker on diesel pumps

2006-08-21 Thread Fred Enga
No, there is no need for additional air as diesel exhaust is oxidizing under all conditions. Most of the flow throughconverters are of the type that are extremely efficient at removing hydrocarbons, including the many hydrocarbons that are adsorbed onto the particulate. There is a

[Biofuel] {Disarmed} Corruption, insurgent attacks net fuel shortage

2006-08-21 Thread D. Mindock
Iraqis face energy crisis, despite oil riches Corruption, insurgent attacks net fuel shortage By RAWYA RAGEH, Associated Press August 14, 2006 BAGHDAD - Under a scorching sun, Baghdad taxi driver Sameer Abdul Razzaq wraps a wet towel around his head and waits for gasoline in a line

Re: [Biofuel] Blair feels let down by Bush [welcome to the club!]

2006-08-21 Thread Clive Marks
Of course they will do nothing, 90% of their senate is Jew. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever:

[Biofuel] Ethanol use

2006-08-21 Thread Charles List
Hi all It's slowly turning to spring down here in the southern hemisphere, and a young man's thoughts turn to what he's going to get up to in those long summer evenings. Me, I think only of biofuel! I am having good progress and results with methanol but my long term plan is to be

Re: [Biofuel] Blair feels let down by Bush [welcome to the club!]

2006-08-21 Thread Mike Weaver
Are your trying to say that The House of Lords is 90% Jewish? Clive Marks wrote: Of course they will do nothing, 90% of their senate is Jew. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org

[Biofuel] a climate repair manual

2006-08-21 Thread AltEnergyNetwork
A Climate Repair Manual Global warming is a reality. Innovation in energy technology and policy are sorely needed if we are to cope http://www.sciam.com/print_version.cfm?articleID=000EABE4-BDFF-14E5-BDFF83414B7F ___ Biofuel mailing

Re: [Biofuel] Kind of... interesting?

2006-08-21 Thread jason
ill have to keep an eye on these guys, they should be traipsing through my hometown in a few weeks...it ought to be interesting. On Mon, 2006-08-21 at 14:13 -0500, DHAJOGLO wrote: So I get this cyptic email from a collegue stating the Armada he had been waiting for has finally arived. So he

Re: [Biofuel] Kind of... interesting?

2006-08-21 Thread econogics
DHAJOGLO wrote: So I get this cyptic email from a collegue stating the Armada he had been waiting for has finally arived. So he proceeds to describe how he went to the Armada down at the river and had a tour of the raft, brought them some cookies, chocolate, and rope and was impressed.

Re: [Biofuel] Ethanol use

2006-08-21 Thread Ken Provost
On Aug 21, 2006, at 1:57 PM, Charles List wrote: I would like to know, however, if I can increase the temperature of the reaction mixture to cut down the time taken for the reaction as ethanol boils at 78C rather than 65C. You probably could, but the separation of glycerol takes such