Re: [biofuel] Michigan Biodiesel makers?

In a message dated 01/17/2004 12:16:34 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: was it red devil lye? Yes it was Red Devil lye that I used. Is that a problem? Rick M Brownstown, Mi. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Biofuel at Journey to Forever:

Re: [biofuel] What are you playing at the pump for dino?

I just filled up last night and paid $1.45 for a U.S. gallon in Flatrock, Michigan. Marathon fuel stop. Rick M Brownstown, Mi. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives:

Re: [biofuel] First Batch

In a message dated 01/17/2004 4:25:04 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well I made my first blender batch of Biodiesel last night. I am proud to say that I made a great batch of GLOP I am not sure what I did wrong. I think maybe the Lye and Methanol did not get mixed

[biofuel] 4TH Batch

Hi again, Well it took 4 trys but I think I got it this time. It has been blended for about 3 hrs so far and I have seperation at the bottom. I have it in a glass jar that just holds my 1 liter plus Methonal and it has about 1/2 inch on the bottom that is different than the rest so far. I

[biofuel] Methanol and Lye mixing.

Hi, I have a question in regards to mixing the Methanol and Lye. I am just doing small test batches. I was wondering how far in advance can you mix it. Can it be made ahead of time or does it have to be made and used right away. I am mixing it in a sealed container and I don't open it

[biofuel] Isopropyl Alcohol

Hi, A little while back there was talk about 70% Isopropyl Alcohol verses 95%. I didn't see the answer as to if the 70% would work or not. I haven't been able to find anything more than the 70% in Rubbing alcohol. I want to do a Titration and need to know if it will work or not. Thanks

Re: [biofuel] Washing info

Keith, instead of using bubbles on the washing can you circulate the water from the bottom of the wash tank up into like a sprinkler head and let it spray or drip back down on top of the biofuel? Not a lot of pressure just flow. Rick M [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Re: [biofuel] Washing info

Cool Deal, That all makes sense to me. I will use the bubble washing process. I have made what I think is 3 one litre batches of biodiesel. 2 from new oil and 1 from used oil. All 3 have seperated very clearly. I am going to try to wash the 3 and see what happens. Thanks Rick M

Re: [biofuel] Question from a newbie

Hi Todd I am also a newbie to the Biodiesel. I am washing my first little bit of fuel as I write this post. In reading your post I assume that the biodiesel will not work in a kerosene lamp. That is what I was going to try after I got it washed. I kinda figured it wouldn't but I was

Re: [biofuel] Question from a newbie

In a message dated 01/30/2004 11:43:53 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Rick, I was told several months ago on this group that biodiesel will work in a petromax lantern. If you have one, you might try it. -BRAH What is a petromax lantern? I only have the old antique

[biofuel] FIRST WASHED BATCH

Hi all, Got my first washed batch done. (I think) The ph level is about 5.4 I don't think that is right. What do I do? It looks great a nice golden brown kinda like honey. Very clear. I think it looks good. But then it is my first batch. What is the thoughts of the list? Rick M

Re: [biofuel] FIRST WASHED BATCH

In a message dated 02/03/2004 9:46:26 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Rick Hi all, Got my first washed batch done. (I think) The ph level is about 5.4 I don't think that is right. What did you measure the pH of, the biodiesel or the final wash-water? I measured the

[biofuel] Solar Panel Advice

Hi all, I want to thank all of those that have responded to my cry for help in making my first Biodiesel. I am now in the process of making a processor for larger batches to see if I can make it on a larger scale. I am very excited about doing this. I want to power my Diesel gen set for my

Re: [biofuel] Glycerol Disposal

In a message dated 02/16/2004 11:47:33 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Burning glycerine If I understand this correctly, I can take the by product from the biodiesel. That nasty looking stuff from the bottom of the processor and burn it in my waste oil burner with no

Re: [biofuel] Glycerol Disposal

In a message dated 02/16/2004 2:18:55 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It should work. EPA-approved waste crankcase oil heaters burn at high temps. Does it have a pre-heater and a pumped injection system that vaporises the fuel? Yes it does. I burns all types of oil. I

Re: [biofuel] Glycerol Disposal

In a message dated 02/16/2004 4:17:18 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It'll be a lot easier if you use KOH, potassium hydroxide, instead of NaOH, sodium hydroxide. With KOH the by-product won't solidify, makes it a lot easier to work with. We run it through a 1/8 valve

Re: [biofuel] Biodiesel Quality?

Hi again, Another dumb question. Is this heating a needed step and if it is how long should it be heated for? There's no need to heat the finished fuel to this high of a temp to dry it. Approximately 120*F (~46*C) is more than sufficient to get any microscopic water to settle out before

Re: [biofuel] Biodiesel Quality?

In a message dated 02/24/2004 8:07:30 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Rick: washer. I wash it with 1/2 the amount of water for 6 to 7 hours and let it sit over night and repeat this 3 times. My last wash water is just about clear and the ph is about 6. No need

Re: [biofuel] The cost of BioFuel

I don't know about Soydiesel but my biodiesel from WVO cost about $.60 per gal to make. Not counting my time. Rick M Brownstown, Mi The Cost of BioFuel: Can anyone tell me what is the cost per gallon of homemade Biofuel? I understand that it would vary depending on the process but I am new to

Re: [biofuel] biodiesel mixing

Hi Keith, I want to set up a pump system like you have been talking about. Right now I am using the stir method. My tank in not completely sealed and I am slowly pouring the Methoxide (sp) in as it mixes then putting the lid back on while it stirs. I am making about 10 gal of finished

Re: [biofuel] Methanol Price correction

I just bought a drum of Methanol from my local oil dealer. I paid $126.50 plus $25.00 drum deposit. That probabaly won't help you because I am in Michigan but you should be able to find it cheaper than $300.00 Rick M Brownstown, Mi My quote for the Methanol price yesterday was wrong. A 55

[biofuel] Bubble washing

Hi again, I have a question. Can you over bubble your bubble wash? Can your bubbles be to big? How long should you wash say a 15 gallon wash? I have made my own air stone. I used a piece of 1/2 nylon tubing and made a circle with a tee fitting. Then I drilled a few tiny holes in it with

[biofuel] Batch Yields

Hi all, I was just wondering if my yields of Bio Diesel is normal or below. I just made a 48 Liter batch of Bio. After it settled out and I drained off the settling I ended up with about 41 liters of fuel before washing. Does that sound about right for a batch of that size? My oil

Re: [biofuel] Batch Yields

In a message dated 03/25/2004 11:37:36 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My oil titrated at 5.6 grams per liter. That was the titration result? - ie, you used 5.6 grams plus the basic amount (3.5) = 9.1 grams NaOH per litre? I mixed 40 liters of oil to 8 liters of Methanol.

Re: [biofuel] Methanol and Sodium Hydroxide efficiant mixing method

In a message dated 04/08/2004 3:23:44 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: mix 3.75 liters of methanol to the appropriate amount of sodium hydroxide in a 5 gallon carboy (with small hole drilled in cap) and let mix for 15 minutes. My problem is that the sodium hydroxide fails

[biofuel] Strange Batch

I need help again, I did another 40 liter batch of bio yesterday. I did a test batch first and it came out right with my seperation at the bottom and the bio on the top just like it is suppose to. The only thing a little different from any other batches is that it was a little darker in

Re: [biofuel] incomplete batch?

Hi Todd, I also had a batch do this. Am I correct in assuming that if the amounts of alcohol and lye are correct, that the problem lays in not enough mixing time? Or would something else cause it? Rick M Brownstown, Mi. The volume of glycerin cocktail that settled out should give you an

[biofuel] test batches

Greetings list, I have a question. If you do a test batch and you get a glob of what looks like hard grease or bad looking soap, wouldn't that mean that you probably used to much lye? Rick M Brownstown, Mi. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[biofuel] Test batch

I just did another test batch and there is something wrong. I am doing small test batches trying to make sure my measurements are correct. I have done 5 small batches and have had the same results with all. I don't understand what is wrong as I have made about 50 gallons of fuel that

Re: [biofuel] Test batch

In a message dated 06/04/2004 11:27:39 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Rick, Go to your kitchen and take some of the vegetable oil from your pantry and run a sample. Do everything the same as you did with the WVO. If the same thing happens you know it's not your oil

[biofuel] Michigan, USA Biodiesel makers

Hi, Is there any backyard Biodiesel makers in the Michigan area that can help me. I am having a problem that I just can't get figured out. I would like to talk or meet with you to see if you can tell me what I am doing wrong. I have made some fuel and had no problems doing it and all

[biofuel] Newbie looking for advice

Hi all, I have been following this list for a while know and am very interested in making Biodiesel for my own use. I am building a retirement home in northern Michigan that is a totally off grid. We have solar and wind power for our electric. I have installed a solar wall for some of my

Re: [biofuel] 75% vs 95% REAGENT GRADE isopropyl alcohol concentrations

I have some gas line anti- freeze that is Isopropyl but it doesn't say the % on it. It does have this on it. Does any one know what it means? Isopropyl Alcohol (CAS #67-63-0) I am also looking for the 95 to 99% Thanks Rick M Brownstown, Mi. [Non-text portions of this message have been

[biofuel] Michigan Biodiesel makers?

Hi again, I am a newbie to the Biodiesel and am about to try my first attempt to make some. I have new oil and about 10 gal of WVO. I am going to try some blender batches of the new oil first and then try my hand at the WVO. I was wondering if anyone in the Michigan area was doing any of

Re: [biofuel] Michigan Biodiesel makers?

Hi Johnny, I am just getting started. I made my first blender batch last night. I made a perfect batch of GLOP. I am using new oil right now untill I figure it out. I don't think my Lye and Methanol mixed right. I got 5 gal of Methanol from the internet. It was expensive but I just

[biofuel] First Batch

Well I made my first blender batch of Biodiesel last night. I am proud to say that I made a great batch of GLOP I am not sure what I did wrong. I think maybe the Lye and Methanol did not get mixed good enough. I used 1 liter of new oil, 200 ml of Methanol, and 3.5 grams of lye. What