Re: [Biofuel] tirating a virgin oil

2006-08-22 Thread Thomas Kelly
@sustainablelists.org Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 10:39 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] tirating a virgin oil Hello Emre, Rafal et al. I have to say that I partially disagree with some of your statements. The limit of FFA for a flawless trans-esterification is drawn at 5mg KOH/g of oil. Any value above

Re: [Biofuel] tirating a virgin oil

2006-08-22 Thread Jan Warnqvist
- Original Message - From: Thomas Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 7:35 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] tirating a virgin oil Jan, You wrote: The limit of FFA for a flawless trans-esterification is drawn at 5mg KOH/g of oil. Any value above

Re: [Biofuel] tirating a virgin oil

2006-08-21 Thread Tonomár András
@sustainablelists.org Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2006 10:15 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] tirating a virgin oil Dear Rafal, First of all, as long as you use cheap oil you should always be prepared to deal with much more FFA and water than it should normally contain. I think your emulsion problem occurs as a result

Re: [Biofuel] tirating a virgin oil

2006-08-21 Thread Thomas Kelly
, August 20, 2006 7:22 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] tirating a virgin oil On Sun, Aug 20, 2006 at 06:29:51PM -0400, Thomas Kelly wrote: Rafal, I assume you are doing 1L test batches? Correct me if I'm wrong. Yes. Actually these are 1 or 2l test batches. For agitation I use a small water

Re: [Biofuel] tirating a virgin oil

2006-08-21 Thread Jan Warnqvist
] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2006 10:15 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] tirating a virgin oil Dear Rafal, First of all, as long as you use cheap oil you should always be prepared to deal with much more FFA and water than it should normally contain. I think your emulsion

Re: [Biofuel] tirating a virgin oil

2006-08-21 Thread Thomas Kelly
the process to produce quality fuel. Tom - Original Message - From: Jan Warnqvist [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 10:39 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] tirating a virgin oil Hello Emre, Rafal et al. I

Re: [Biofuel] tirating a virgin oil

2006-08-21 Thread Joe Street
ay, August 20, 2006 10:15 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] tirating a virgin oil Dear Rafal, First of all, as long as you use cheap oil you should always be prepared to deal with much more FFA and water than it should normally contain. I think your emulsion problem occurs a

Re: [Biofuel] tirating a virgin oil

2006-08-21 Thread Rafal Szczesniak
On Mon, Aug 21, 2006 at 10:08:58AM -0400, Thomas Kelly wrote: Rafal, 1 - 2L test batches w. virgin oil . Good 99% pure KOH V. Good (If you are concerned about the purity and have NaOH of known purity you can test the KOH) I know that. However, KOH that I've

Re: [Biofuel] tirating a virgin oil

2006-08-21 Thread Rafal Szczesniak
On Mon, Aug 21, 2006 at 09:57:30AM +0200, Tonom?r Andr?s wrote: Hi Rafal, If it is virgin oil from the supermarket, you should not worry about water. Yes, that's exactly what it is. Cheap brand made for a supermarket by a known oil producer (n-th pressing of residues after they make their own

Re: [Biofuel] tirating a virgin oil

2006-08-21 Thread Derick Giorchino
@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] tirating a virgin oil On Mon, Aug 21, 2006 at 10:08:58AM -0400, Thomas Kelly wrote: Rafal, 1 - 2L test batches w. virgin oil . Good 99% pure KOH V. Good (If you are concerned about the purity and have NaOH of known purity you can test

[Biofuel] tirating a virgin oil

2006-08-20 Thread Rafal Szczesniak
Hi, Recently I've came through problems with testing a cheap virgin oil in my test processor which every time ended up with incomplete reactions (emulsion problems). I did make the process longer (2 hours) and at higher temperature (60-63 degC) - still nothing, though by product separation is

Re: [Biofuel] tirating a virgin oil

2006-08-20 Thread Thomas Kelly
] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2006 1:31 PM Subject: [Biofuel] tirating a virgin oil Hi, Recently I've came through problems with testing a cheap virgin oil in my test processor which every time ended up with incomplete reactions (emulsion problems). I did make

Re: [Biofuel] tirating a virgin oil

2006-08-20 Thread Rafal Szczesniak
On Sun, Aug 20, 2006 at 06:29:51PM -0400, Thomas Kelly wrote: Rafal, I assume you are doing 1L test batches? Correct me if I'm wrong. Yes. Actually these are 1 or 2l test batches. For agitation I use a small water pump originally designed for larger aquaria and also recently used in water

Re: [Biofuel] tirating a virgin oil

2006-08-20 Thread EMRE ELMAS
@sustainablelists.org To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: [Biofuel] tirating a virgin oil Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 19:31:26 +0200 Hi, Recently I've came through problems with testing a cheap virgin oil in my test processor which every time ended up with incomplete reactions (emulsion problems). I did make