[biofuel] Re: Fahrenheit 9/11

2004-07-05 Thread Curtis Sakima
Frankly, I think Bush himself did 9/11. Ok ... so he did not directly push the button. But IMHO ... he enabled it. and surgically enhanced it. IMHO he WANTED the WTC down (for reasons listed by Dave).So he arranged it to go down. He had DEMOLITION CHARGES set up in it so

Re: [biofuel] Re: Fahrenheit 9/11

2004-07-05 Thread Gustl Steiner-Zehender
Hallo Friends, Although I am responding to this mail of Curtis' it is a general mail to the list in general. Are we not beating a dead horse with this thread? It is obvious that there are strongly held beliefs on all sides about this but has sufficient thought been given to what the

Re: [biofuel] Re: Fahrenheit 9/11

2004-07-04 Thread dave . randall
! Will I'm not a president, but I play one online Dwyer -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 12:43 PM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [biofuel] Re: Fahrenheit 9/11 I would certainly like to hear what you would have

[biofuel] Re: Fahrenheit 9/11

2004-07-04 Thread bioveging
Well, Todd, it seems that some folks don't understand, or don't want to understand, that if a house is built on silt and quicksand it will soon crumble. Duh. So it is apparent that any information used as foundation for an argument or testative point and that that foundation information is

[biofuel] Re: Fahrenheit 9/11

2004-07-03 Thread Brian
The pages you've given are opinion and conjecture. I won't argue that they're not the opinion and conjecture of the people who posted them. You just can't seem to get the point that the opinion and conjecture of the right is not proof of Moore lying. You offer pages that take one little

[biofuel] Re: Fahrenheit 9/11

2004-07-03 Thread Brian
Before I let my NRA membership lapse because I did not feel that they represented me as a responsible firearm owner, I used to receive their publication which was supposed to support protection of my second ammendment rights. This publication offered reports on the studies which showed an

[biofuel] Re: Fahrenheit 9/11

2004-07-02 Thread bioveging
Perhaps my post # 36427 can shed some light of it. :) L. --- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, Appal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Randall, I'm also from Michigan, doesn't mean I blindly accept the opinion of everyone who speaks here. That goes ditto for me as well, especially when folks

[biofuel] Re: Fahrenheit 9/11

2004-07-02 Thread Brian
--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I applaud your attempt to discredit the source rather than to make any attempt whatsoever to discredit the arguement or the premise itself. Have you ever heard the expression the pot calling the kettle black? I don't know if I've

Re: [biofuel] Re: Fahrenheit 9/11

2004-07-02 Thread Appal Energy
when questions are considered more chaotic than actions. Todd Swearingen - Original Message - From: bioveging [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2004 8:38 PM Subject: [biofuel] Re: Fahrenheit 9/11 Perhaps my post # 36427 can shed some light

[biofuel] Re: Fahrenheit 9/11

2004-07-02 Thread Brian
I wrote my reply to Randall's post before looking at his references. For that I apologize. Now that I have read Heston's entire speech, I would like to thank him for posting that link here. He has proven to us all that the editing that Moore did in Bowling fro Columbine presented a very

[biofuel] Re: Fahrenheit 9/11

2004-07-01 Thread Brian
Is your best source a thoroughly slanted website in which the writer admits that he doesn't know what Moore was thinking, but basing his premise on his own interpretation of it? A website that chronicles a few deaths related to toasters as proof that Moore doesn't know what he's talking

[biofuel] Re: Fahrenheit 9/11

2004-06-28 Thread Bob Yates
Message: 1 Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2004 10:10:29 -0400 From: Darryl McMahon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Fahrenheit 9/11 Went to see this last night with my son (age 14). He thought it was awesome. Unfortunately, I could not interest any of the women in the party (my wife and sisters) in

[biofuel] Re: Fahrenheit 9/11

2004-06-28 Thread Keith Addison
Backwoods_Bob wrote: Message: 1 Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2004 10:10:29 -0400 From: Darryl McMahon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Fahrenheit 9/11 Went to see this last night with my son (age 14). He thought it was awesome. Unfortunately, I could not interest any of the women in the party

[biofuel] Re: Fahrenheit 9/11

2004-06-28 Thread Brian
I should send you a picture of me from high school. Of course, now I'm just older, uglier and fatter. I guess that means that nothing that I have to say is relevant. Sorry for ever posting here. As far as doing away with a number of the traditions and morals of this country (I assume you

Re: [biofuel] Re: Fahrenheit 9/11

2004-06-28 Thread rhsanborn
I hope no voters base their vote on anything that Michael Moore writes or films. All of his premises and arguements are based on skewed data and emotion. He really has a very poor arguement. Its very sad that people would take something, written by someone with severe political motivations and

RE: [biofuel] Re: Fahrenheit 9/11

2004-06-28 Thread HempCycle Webmaster
@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [biofuel] Re: Fahrenheit 9/11 I hope no voters base their vote on anything that Michael Moore writes or films. All of his premises and arguements are based on skewed data and emotion. He really has a very poor arguement. Its very sad that people would take something, written

Re: [biofuel] Re: Fahrenheit 9/11

2004-06-28 Thread Martin Klingensmith
I hope you're not voting then. The last Michael Moore book I read had 26 pages regarding works cited. He said himself that his publications aren't fair. At least he doesn't claim to be when he's not. [foxnews.com] -- -- Martin Klingensmith http://infoarchive.net/ http://nnytech.net/ [EMAIL

Re: [biofuel] Re: Fahrenheit 9/11

2004-06-28 Thread rhsanborn
He could site 500 works for all I care, it doesn't mean he used the information accurately or in context. He is not a source of information, he is a source of entertainment. He slants information to make his point, and his point alone. He is like any other media outlet, its a lot easier to

FW: [biofuel] Re: Fahrenheit 9/11

2004-06-28 Thread Dermot
See below Regards, Dermot -Original Message- From: Dermot [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 28 June 2004 17:32 To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [biofuel] Re: Fahrenheit 9/11 Pretty strong words there, partner. Can you back them up with examples of where Moore has lied or skewed

RE: [biofuel] Re: Fahrenheit 9/11

2004-06-28 Thread rhsanborn
I would certainly like to hear what you would have done in that situation. If he had jumped up and ran out of the room he would have caused panic. Of course then everyone on the left would say he showed bad form. If he made a statement right then and there, he would be speaking on almost no

[biofuel] Re: Fahrenheit 9/11

2004-06-28 Thread pivincent
For those of us outside the US, the movie is called Celcius 488 Pierre --- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, Darryl McMahon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Went to see this last night with my son (age 14). He thought it was awesome. Unfortunately, I could not interest any of the women in the party

Re: [biofuel] Re: Fahrenheit 9/11

2004-06-28 Thread Keith Addison
I hope you're not voting then. The last Michael Moore book I read had 26 pages regarding works cited. Which is 100% more than Randall's managed to do, along with most of the people who say just that about him and his work. Short of non-sources and anti-sources like the NY Post, the Washington

Re: [biofuel] Re: Fahrenheit 9/11

2004-06-28 Thread Sam Johnston
Greets...A newbie to the list (me) chimes in ... Im still learning about biofuels and really appreciate this amazing list and Keith's great work keeping it going. I want to have the ability to make batches of biodiesel in the future and am in the early stages of research right now. Intro

Re: [biofuel] Re: Fahrenheit 9/11

2004-06-28 Thread rhsanborn
I understand the fact that this is propeganda. But, being that it is controversial, and that it does have some flaws, there is a very good reason to have public discussion about/against/for it. The man is deliberately trying to sway the vote to get Bush out of office with this movie. And given

[biofuel] Re: Fahrenheit 9/11

2004-06-28 Thread Brian
--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In his documentary about how bad GM is for closing the Flint plant, he shows evictions and people getting kicked out onto the street. It's no result of the GM closing, the person didn't work for GM but it made a good picture for his