[Biofuel] Sept 1 declared no buy gas day

2005-08-29 Thread marilyn
This was forwarded to me, so I am sending it to all of you to forward if you want to. It has been calculated that if everyone in the United States and Canada did not purchase a drop of gasoline for one day and all at the same time, the oil companies would choke on their stockpiles. At the

Re: [Biofuel] thanks

2005-08-29 Thread terzakis
Only the abstract is in English. If you like i can send you pictures, diagrams, etc in your e-mail if it has the capacity and you will share it to others. Stelios Abstract Alkali catalyzed, two-stage process for biodiesel production from used vegetable oils mixture and evaluation of its fuel

Re: [Biofuel] Mercedes Diesel Suitable?

2005-08-29 Thread Jan Warnqvist
Hello Peter. I am referring to what some are calling the pre-filter, located just before the feed pump. Concerning the rubber, the MB engineers are claiming that the rubber hoses and sealings are not suitable for biodiesel. But, if not too worn, they are lasting very well. If a hose has to

Re: [Biofuel] Sept 1 declared no buy gas day

2005-08-29 Thread Stan
This is mostly an incorrect rumor. http://www.snopes.com/politics/business/nogas.asp - It'd better serve everyone to forward accurate information about alternatives to petroleum. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This was forwarded to me, so I am sending it to all of you to forward if you want to.

[Biofuel] Warning to List Members

2005-08-29 Thread Rumen Slavov
Dear Friends, As I wrote, there are not viruses for Linux. In the earliest `80 there were a couple of exploits ( not viruses!), but they dyed soon, when the kernel has changed. The creation of a virus is a complicate process, one has to know the exact target, what is almost

[Biofuel] Request for info from the German Brazil biodiesel conference: Fo rtaleza, Brazil

2005-08-29 Thread Mills, Duncan
Hi Pannirselvam, You recently (07.08.05) posted a mail offering to share the information from the recent German/Brazil conference on biodiesel held in Fortaleza. Please can you (or anyone else who has them) post the links or the information? Thanks, Duncan Mills -Original

Re: [Biofuel] Robertson et al VS. followers

2005-08-29 Thread Michael Redler
Hakan: "To condition the cohabitation of a men and a women on if they are married or not?" "Unmarried cohabitation. Eight states continue to make it a crime for an unmarried man and a woman to cohabit together: Florida, Idaho, Michigan, Mississippi, North Carolina, North Dakota, Virginia and West

Re: [Biofuel] Query on MTBE

2005-08-29 Thread Juan Boveda
Hello Subramanian. For the possibles uses of MTBE try a search at the United States Patent Office using MTBE or Methyl Terbutyl Ether. www.uspto.gov/patft/index.html www.uspto.gov/netahtml/search-bool.html It might be a lot but select for chemical synthesis using MTBE as one of the reacting

Re: [Biofuel] Warning to List Members

2005-08-29 Thread Arden B. Norder
Halellujah . . . I'm not alone!!! I live for and work with linux everyday all day long - It just works . . . all the time!!! Greetings from Holland!!! Arden On Aug 29, 2005 10:23 AM, Rumen Slavov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Friends, As I wrote, there are not viruses for

Re: [Biofuel] Robertson et al VS. followers

2005-08-29 Thread Mike Weaver
Uh oh. I'm cohabitating illegally. Wait'll I tell my GF. -Mike Michael Redler wrote: ** Hakan: To condition the cohabitation of a men and a women on if they are married or not? Unmarried cohabitation. Eight states continue to make it a crime for an unmarried man and a woman to

Re: [Biofuel] Sept 1 declared no buy gas day

2005-08-29 Thread Kirk McLoren
Choke on their stockpiles. Sigh. Do they choke on their stockpiles when transportation is disrupted by storms -- and that is often for many days. Switching to a renewable fuel and not using fuel by changing life style are all that will work. KirkStan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is mostly an

Re: [Biofuel] Robertson et al VS. followers

2005-08-29 Thread Hakan Falk
Mike, Never heard about it before. LOL This is fantastic, a long time since I had such a good laugh. Not since Bush said that they did the best to kill their own military. LOL In a range of ...so do we statements, he actually said. They try their best to kill our people, so do we. LOL Is it

[Biofuel] Linux, virii and Microsoft

2005-08-29 Thread Mike Weaver
Windows is far more prone to attack than Linux. However, as a Linux/Unix admin, I can assure that if you are relying soley on the fact you are running Linux to protect you, you are asking for trouble. You still need to have a good firewall and harden your system. Here's a page on kernel

Re: [Biofuel] Robertson et al VS. followers

2005-08-29 Thread Hakan Falk
Mike, Watch it, she might take it as a proposal, or worse, move out. Hakan At 15:48 29/08/2005, you wrote: Uh oh. I'm cohabitating illegally. Wait'll I tell my GF. -Mike Michael Redler wrote: ** Hakan: To condition the cohabitation of a men and a women on if they are married or

[Biofuel] another reason to work for energy independence

2005-08-29 Thread Kirk McLoren
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/printpage/0,5942,16416680,00.html Print this page Dumping of US dollar could trigger 'economic September 11'There is a potentially fatal flaw at the heart of the global economy: the strong possibility of financial meltdown following a collapse of

Re: [Biofuel] Sept 1 declared no buy gas day

2005-08-29 Thread Mike Weaver
Arggh. This is an informal intelligence test that has been circulating aroun the Internet for at least 8 years under different guises. IT IS A HOAX. DO PAY ANY ATTENTION TO IT. I mean, think for a minute: It has been calculated - by whom? Some bored kid in a dorm? In the US, no one buy gas

Re: [Biofuel] Magnetic boots

2005-08-29 Thread Joe Street
How did you move the lever then?? Nick Jenny wrote: OK I may have come in late on this but you can cancel a permenant magnetic field, look up magnetic vise or chuck. They are used on milling machines to secure the workpiece. The magnets are "swiched off" using a lever. No power or

[Biofuel] Sept 1 declared no buy gas day

2005-08-29 Thread Andy Karpay
It would seem that NOT buying gas on Sept 1 will do nothing. If errands, and gasoline (burning) continues without BUYING it will only be delayed until, say, Sept 2, or 3. You'd need a global (or at least national) NO DRIVE WEEK. If everyone didn't drive, or use gasoline for a week it could

Re: [Biofuel] Sept 1 declared no buy gas day

2005-08-29 Thread marilyn
effort to take public transportation for a whole month. Biofuel@sustainablelists.org wrote: This is mostly an incorrect rumor. http://www.snopes.com/politics/business/nogas.asp - It'd better serve everyone to forward accurate information about alternatives to petroleum. Thanks for the reply,

Re: [Biofuel] Sept 1 declared no buy gas day

2005-08-29 Thread mphee
http://www.snopes.com/politics/business/nogas.asp On Mon, 29 Aug 2005 07:08:06 -0700 (PDT), Kirk McLoren wrote Choke on their stockpiles. Sigh. Do they choke on their stockpiles when transportation is disrupted by storms -- and that is often for many days. Switching to a renewable fuel and

Re: [Biofuel] Sept 1 declared no buy gas day

2005-08-29 Thread mphee
Station owners really don't make much money off of gas. Their lucky to make a nickel a gallon. They make their money on what's called C-Store sales. If more people could take public transportation it would help greatly. Funny tidbit. BP says they loose money on their gas stations, $100mil

Re: [Biofuel] Query on MTBE

2005-08-29 Thread quimica_nova_sa
Subramanian. You can also try the web pages of MTBE manufacturers, where they can explain other applications apart from its use as octane enhancer. One leading company back in the '80s was ARCO. Anyhow, for sure, there is no large tonnage application for MTBE, other than as octane enhancer.

Re: [Biofuel] another reason to work for energy independence

2005-08-29 Thread mphee
The econmic meltdown doesn't scare me as much as the next world war. The economy has had meltdowns before and it will again. I believe the US is resourcful enough to come back. Though our great dependacy on foreign oil could make that a lot harder. As oil is depleted more and more there will

Re: [Biofuel] Virus Warnings

2005-08-29 Thread
Yes, I agree Linux is great when you can get all the pieces together to make it work, their Hardware Compatability List is somewhat limited on what devices you can use compared to Windows and for new users navigation can be a little cumbersom to learn something new. The upside of it is less down

Re: [Biofuel] The myth behind non-taxable, off-road fuel was Re: There derrivatives of Barrel Oil, have you wondered ?

2005-08-29 Thread Chris Chuck McGuire
Here in Montana the differrence is $0.50 per gallon. And that is probably why the Highway Patrol and GVW departments are advertisiing about the illegality of using dyed fuel in your on-road vehicle. Of course, they have to have probable cause to stop you to dip your tank...

Re: [Biofuel] BP loses money?? Yeah, right.

2005-08-29 Thread Jerry Eyers
Funny tidbit.BP says they loose money on their gas stations, $100mil last year.You refine it, you transport it, you store it, you delivery it, and you sell it.How do you loose money when you control all aspects of it.Just by vertues of econmies of scale you have to make money. I say

Re: [Biofuel] another reason to work for energy independence

2005-08-29 Thread Bob Clark
Hello Kirk and all, This was a very appropriate time and place to interject this discussion THANK YOU!! Maybe we'll see a few more 'scare cycles' first, but this scenario is very likely to happen sometime in the future I have been following this scenario very closely (starting back with the

Re: [Biofuel] Sept 1 declared no buy gas day

2005-08-29 Thread Darryl McMahon
Well, then I guess we can expect to see BP putting all their gasoline stations up for sale. After all, the managers are required to maximize the returns for their shareholders. If the stations are losing money, they have to dump them. I won't be holding my breath. As for gas-outs - it's

[Biofuel] Linux, virii and Microsoft

2005-08-29 Thread Rumen Slavov
Hi all,Hi Mike, Grutje, Arden, you have never been alone!Linuxoids are all over the world! MS has been kicked out from Japan, China and even from Bavaria! Dear Mike,rarely there are homes with just one comp.In my house there are 4 and the net comes trough firewalled router on Linux

Re: [Biofuel] Query on MTBE

2005-08-29 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Subramanian Not of direct use, like Juan's reply, but this might be useful - factsheet and other resources on MTBE as an oxygenate additive: http://journeytoforever.org/ethanol_mtbe.html MTBE Fact Sheet Best wishes Keith Hello Members, MTBE – Methyl tertiary butyl ether - an

Re: [Biofuel] BP loses money?? Yeah, right.

2005-08-29 Thread dwoodard
It's all part of the standard multinational corporation planning to move the profits to the jurisdiction in which they are taxed least (preferably not at all). Doug Woodard St. Catharines, Ontario, Canada On Mon, 29 Aug 2005, Jerry Eyers wrote: Funny tidbit. BP says they loose money on

Re: [Biofuel] Sept 1 declared no buy gas day

2005-08-29 Thread Keith Addison
Bravo Andy! Do you know about the World Carfree Network? http://www.worldcarfree.net/ Subscribe to WORLD CARFREE NEWS: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] eng Best wishes Keith It would seem that NOT buying gas on Sept 1 will do nothing. If errands, and gasoline (burning) continues without BUYING

Re: [Biofuel] Magnetic boots

2005-08-29 Thread Chris lloyd
The magnets are "swiched off" using a lever. No power or external device required. How did you move the lever then?? It is not that there is no force used to move the lever, it takes very little force to move the lever and without moving itI cannot move the tool holder. The force used to

Re: [Biofuel] Sept 1 declared no buy gas day

2005-08-29 Thread marilyn
Biofuel@sustainablelists.org wrote: 11) If you want to make a political statement, pick an oil company to boycott or support.. You all probably know this, but in case some don't, the following can help in choosing which ones you might decide to boycott: Major companies that import Middle

[Biofuel] Government Regs

2005-08-29 Thread Peter Childers
I am investigating the State of North Carolina tax regulations on BioFuel production. I find out the tax rate is 27.1 cents per gallon and I have to post a surety bond for $2000 for a license. That is required for any type of Biodiesel production up to 500,000 gallons per year. I am still

Re: [Biofuel] Sept 1 declared no buy gas day

2005-08-29 Thread John Hayes
You all probably know this, but in case some don't, the following can help in choosing which ones you might decide to boycott: Major companies that import Middle Eastern oil : Shell. 205,742,000 barrels Chevron/Texaco. 144,332,000 barrels Exxon

Re: [Biofuel] Sept 1 declared no buy gas day

2005-08-29 Thread Keith Addison
Hi Darryl Very nice! I'm sure others can contribute more ideas beyond the list above. My point is, don't act for a day, act for a lifetime. I'm also sure, there've been some good contributions so far. If we can et some more I can compile them and make a page at Journey to Forever for it,

Re: [Biofuel] Linux, virii and Microsoft

2005-08-29 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Rumen snip I would like to ask for assistance again - do somebody knows how perform quality test of BD using paper chromatography? You might find something useful here, 22 hits: http://www.mail-archive.com/cgi-bin/htsearch?method=andformat=shortc

Re: [Biofuel] Magnetic boots

2005-08-29 Thread Joe Street
You mean a little force over a long distance like? Chris lloyd wrote: The magnets are "swiched off" using a lever. No power or external device required. How did you move the lever then??   It is not that there is no force used to move the lever, it takes very little

Re: [Biofuel] Magnetic boots

2005-08-29 Thread Kirk McLoren
I assure you the force distance product exceeds the strength of the magnet(s) KirkChris lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The magnets are "swiched off" using a lever. No power or external device required. How did you move the lever then?? It is not that there is no force used to move the lever,

Re: [Biofuel] Sept 1 declared no buy gas day

2005-08-29 Thread marilyn
Thanks. I should have looked for this one on Snopes before I sent it. Biofuel@sustainablelists.org wrote: You all probably know this, but in case some don't, the following can help in choosing which ones you might decide to boycott: Major companies that import Middle Eastern oil :

Re: [Biofuel] Magnetic boots

2005-08-29 Thread Chris lloyd
You mean a little force over a long distance like? Hi Joe, what is the lever doing inside the tool holder, it moves about 4 inches. Chris. - Original Message - From: Joe Street To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 6:39 PM Subject: Re:

Re: [Biofuel] Sept 1 declared no buy gas day

2005-08-29 Thread Darryl McMahon
Keith, good idea. I'll keep track here too. It will give me an excuse to update my page at http://www.econogics.com/en/enenergy.htm#Transportation . It needs some tidying up anyway. Darryl Date sent: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 02:21:24 +0900 To:

Re: [Biofuel] Another use for glycerine

2005-08-29 Thread Nancy Canning
- Original Message - From: John Hayes [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2005 10:01 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Another use for glycerine Nancy Canning wrote: Propylene glycol as it is used tons and tons of products including industrial

Re: [Biofuel] Magnetic boots

2005-08-29 Thread Joe Street
Hi Chris; Why don't you tell me since you have the device and I don't.  I am guessing that the lever acts on a fulcrum and raises the magnet from the base a small distance.  Joe Chris lloyd wrote:   Hi Joe, what is the lever doing inside the tool holder, it moves about

Re: [Biofuel] Sept 1 declared no buy gas day

2005-08-29 Thread RobertCVA
You get 0 mpg when idling in stopped traffic. I suppose it's worse than "0". Since in most cars the engine keeps running while stopped, it has the effect of a negative mpg on overall gas mileage.My 2004 Prius' engine stops when the traffic stops, which is great for mpg and air quality. And

Re: [Biofuel] Sept 1 declared no buy gas day

2005-08-29 Thread Mel Riser
I'm gonna go down and fill up ALL my diesel vehicles with B100 that day. mel___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever:

Re: [Biofuel] Religion, Politics Biofuels, and Illusion

2005-08-29 Thread Pannirselvam P.V
Dear Doug Swanson I appreciate your well thoughtful letter regarding our list.But I am not able to fully understand yet that religion develop illusion as I native of India , presently in Brazil .Here religion always do better thing , the school , the hospital , the project for the poor people .

Re: [Biofuel] Sept 1 declared no buy gas day

2005-08-29 Thread Mike Weaver
I'm gonna drive my car around the beltway *just for fun* just like the guy who was interviewed in the Washington Post last week about gas prices. He was bemoaning the fact that he couldn't afford to keep his car on the road due to gas prices. Poor fellow. Mel Riser wrote: I'm gonna go down

[Biofuel] US Intelligent Design Campaign and natural disaster hits oil prices.

2005-08-29 Thread Mike Weaver
Well, despite all the hoopla put forth by our religiously-minded national leaders here in the US, I am have been shocked to find NO support for my campaign to replace evolution with the oldest documented evidence of Intelligent Design. Hinduism is easily 7000 years old, and clearly the most

Re: [Biofuel] Sept 1 declared no buy gas day

2005-08-29 Thread Mike Weaver
At the rate Katrina is tearing through the gulf there may not be any gas to buy. Darryl McMahon wrote: Keith, good idea. I'll keep track here too. It will give me an excuse to update my page at http://www.econogics.com/en/enenergy.htm#Transportation . It needs some tidying up anyway.

Re: [Biofuel] Sept 1 declared no buy gas day

2005-08-29 Thread Mike Weaver
I vote for Exxon - they never paid squat for the Valdez spill. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org wrote: 11) If you want to make a political statement, pick an oil company to boycott or support.. You all probably know this, but in case some don't, the following can help

Re: [Biofuel] Sept 1 declared no buy gas day

2005-08-29 Thread Mike Weaver
FWIW BP is a fairly big player in solar panels - so far a 3-6 backlog of orders. Keith Addison wrote: Hi Darryl Very nice! I'm sure others can contribute more ideas beyond the list above. My point is, don't act for a day, act for a lifetime. I'm also sure, there've been some good

Re: [Biofuel] another reason to work for energy independence

2005-08-29 Thread Mike Weaver
Puleeze. Enough with the sky is falling song and dance. I invite you to join me, My Fellow Americans and our president in The Magical Thinking party. NONE of those scary things will happen because WE BELONG TO THE MAGICAL THINKING PARTY. We don't mention that doom and gloomer Carter. We

[Biofuel] Background statistics for energy and more....

2005-08-29 Thread Hakan Falk
mphee, Something that I follow and found very important for evaluations and discussions are several public statistical reports, two of the most important to read is, UNDP's report on human development, http://hdr.undp.org/reports/global/2004/pdf/hdr04_complete.pdf and BP's energy report,

Re: [Biofuel] Background statistics for energy and more....

2005-08-29 Thread Mike Weaver
Darn, Nigeria has fallen out of #1. Hakan Falk wrote: mphee, Something that I follow and found very important for evaluations and discussions are several public statistical reports, two of the most important to read is, UNDP's report on human development,

Re: [Biofuel] Background statistics for energy and more....

2005-08-29 Thread Hakan Falk
Mike, Yes, Nigeria were #100 on least corrupted countries and now they are #144. US is still keeping its 17-19 position however, good, despite the Bush administration. Spain is also the same, but Sweden who had a shared 5 position with Singapore, have now fallen to 6. LOL Hakan At 05:30

Re: [Biofuel] Robertson et al VS. followers

2005-08-29 Thread KinsleyForPrez08
Hakan, If only one of the cohabitants were married, I think that would satisfy the letter of the law. But with the high moral values of the majority of citizens (especially the followers of TV evangelists like Pat Robertson), these two might get linched for living in sin! As far as being the

Re: [Biofuel] BP loses money?? Yeah, right.

2005-08-29 Thread David M. Brockes
This is why we need a Flat Tax system in this country for both Individual and Business. 8% to 12% would provide a tax base much more robust than what we have todayand most of us would probably pay less, but certainly everyone would pay a fair share.and think of all the savings there would

[Biofuel] Oil questions

2005-08-29 Thread John Wilson
Hi Has anyone tried canola oil in their oil pan as a substitute for fossil oil. If so what were the results. :http://www.rense.com/ufo/motoroil.htm How many liters in a tonne of canola oil. spot price for Canola oil is $268.00 per tonne. How much is that per liter. I am taking a rough guess

[Biofuel] Water heater

2005-08-29 Thread Marty Phee
Will a water heater ware out/rust out? Say if you start from a new heater. How long can you expect it to last? ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at

[Biofuel] What the state of Oregon, USA is doing about replacement fuels

2005-08-29 Thread Jerry Eyers
Don't know if this has been mentioned here before, but the state of Oregon, USA has taken a different approach to replacing the gas tax, and off road fuel taxes with an alternative, since many people are now using hybrid and alternative fuels and they are losing so much money: This fall, about

Re: [Biofuel] Sept 1 declared no buy gas day

2005-08-29 Thread Slydog
As others have stated I am sure one day would not do anything. So much is made from oil like the tires and all the plastic peices on that bike you want to ride around. I am new to all this but I don't see how it could be fixed unless we as in all the U.S. and other countries went to vehicals run

[Biofuel] cone bottom processor

2005-08-29 Thread john owens
Hi, I am looking for some help making a biodiesel processor. I am trying to make my own processor out of two45 gallon drums (whichI thinkis55 American gallons) With cone bottoms. One for mixing and settling and the other for washing.I have one cone just about bent into shape which took abit of

[Biofuel] Problems, problems, problems

2005-08-29 Thread Pieter Koole
Hello all, I found a new adres where I can collect quit a bit of good quality oil, well, that is what I thought. In this oil is added what we call E900 ( a european code ) which is dimethylpolysiloxaan, to avoid the oil from foaming when they bake their chips. From this oil I get one great

[Biofuel] Cohabitation

2005-08-29 Thread Douglas Smith
Michael Redler wrote: Uh oh. I'm cohabitating illegally. Wait'll I tell my GF. You know, Michael, I don't have anything against you and your girlfriend doing whatever you like in private - or any other straight couple - but must you flaunt it in front of the rest of us? The children might

Re: [Biofuel] Robertson et al VS. followers

2005-08-29 Thread Kjell Lofgren
That can't be true!!?? Is it, really??? Heavens... LOL Have to save that URL... http://www.unmarriedamerica.org/Court/privacy-ruling.htm Unmarried cohabitation. Eight states continue to make it a crime for an unmarried man and a woman to cohabit together: Florida, Idaho, Michigan, Mississippi,

Re: [Biofuel] Religion, Politics Biofuels, and Illusion

2005-08-29 Thread TarynToo
Hello Pannirselvam, Forgive me for taking exception to some things you said to Doug. I've assumed (perhaps wrongly) that you're looking at the works of the Catholic church in Brazil, from a Hindu perspective. It has been years since I last studied the Bhagavada Gita, but I continue to practice