[Biofuel] E85 vs Biodiesel

2005-07-08 Thread RobertCVA
I just joined this list after I came across it while "googling" for information on ethanol and biodiesel fueled vehicles. One question that I was researching concerned the cost-effectiveness of E85 vs biodiesel fueled cars.The answer may be out there in Internet land, but so far I haven't

Re: [Biofuel] It's imperialism, stupid

2005-07-08 Thread RobertCVA
Jill, I think your lengthy posting about the content of this list was well-intentioned, but as a number of responses have indicated, problematic for some of us. Just a few things I wanted to point out. Regarding your statement that "Baghdad, for the past 30 [1975-2005] years, was THE

[Biofuel] Fwd: Ethanol from corn vs Biodiesel from soy,etc.

2005-07-08 Thread RobertCVA
---BeginMessage--- I have read various estimates about the net fuel gain from the production of ethanol from corn vs the production of biodiesel from soy. (I'm aware that ethanol and biodiesel can be produced from other sources as well, but corn and soy seem to be dominate in the US.)

Re: [Biofuel] give up meat?

2005-07-08 Thread RobertCVA
"Google" on "vegetarian" and you'll find numerous sources of information on how to get anhealthful diet. I've been "vegetarian" for two and a half years now, although I have to admit I occasionally eat fish (sustainable types), milk (organic) -- although I usually use "soy" milk, eggs (free

Re: [Biofuel] Hybrid Diesel

2005-07-09 Thread RobertCVA
If you haven't seen the summary pie chart on federal incomes and outlays, I suggest checking out page 74 of http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/i1040gi.pdf Bob In a message dated 7/9/2005 1:43:48 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Paddy,Actually, according to the President's

Re: [Biofuel] Bring land back from the dead

2005-07-09 Thread RobertCVA
In the mid-Atlantic area where I live, it's sad to see prime agricultural land being turned into tracts for subdivisions, malls, and McMansions, the latter of which often have acres of lawn that must be cut, fertilized, etc., for no good purpose. Unfortunately the market doesn't capture

Re: [Biofuel] Pimentel is at it again

2005-07-11 Thread RobertCVA
Regarding use of "human manure," it's my understanding that sewage sludge may be used in the USas a soil treatment for non-human-edible crops, and in fact that a good bit of it is recycled that way. (See "Garbage Land -- On the Secret Trail of Trash, by Elizabeth Royte) I, like a number of

Re: [Biofuel] Deconstructing the Nuclear Power Myths

2005-07-13 Thread RobertCVA
Excellent points Hakan. Plenty of other places to discuss nuclear. Whatever role nuclear has or doesn't have in the future, biofuels will have a critical role in meeting our future energy needs. I agree, natural tie ins are OK (e.g., wind power sited on biofuel fields), but let's avoid the

Re: [Biofuel] Deconstructing the Nuclear Power Myths

2005-07-13 Thread RobertCVA
jh, "Deciding" wasn't what I had in mind, nor was I trying to be a "Cop." As parties interested in biofuels and interested in keeping this site dynamic, I think we all exercise some self-restraint in what we post here.My caution, along the lines of Hakan I believe, is that, as a practical

[Biofuel] Homes and energy

2005-07-13 Thread RobertCVA
I thought the article below, from today's Washington Post, might be of interest to others on this list. Along with oversized houses, it's my experience that the houses are, as well,being placed on largerlots, which, for practical purposes, takes that land out of circulation for biofuel crop

Fwd: [Biofuel] seeds on the brain - small scale diesel

2005-07-14 Thread RobertCVA
RE: "Harvest equipment = a scythe." I grew up near Pennsylvania Dutch country, and I'll always remember driving through the areas farmed by the Amish, which as many of you may already know, eschew engine driven equipment. Unless they hire someone to do fieldwork, they do the work generally

Re: [Biofuel] Moving to the land was The Saudi oil bombshell

2005-07-28 Thread RobertCVA
While not a practical idea for most, I suspect, it would be nice to be able to "apprentice" with some Amish farmers. Some of the intensive, largelysustainable, farming practices that were relatively commonplace knowledge even as recent as 50 years ago in the USarenow a totallyunknown

Re: [Biofuel] ethanol from wood please

2005-07-30 Thread RobertCVA
What kind of "residue" is left from wood or these other alternative inputs to the ethanol production process. Anything of value, like seedcake from biodiesel production? Anything harmful? ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org

Re: [Biofuel] Gangs of America Power and the disabling of democracy

2005-07-30 Thread RobertCVA
In a message dated 7/30/2005 2:11:35 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: How do we eliminate the all powerful, destructive, and "untouchable" attributes of corporations, while not destroying the lives of the good people who make up their work forces? I think the

Re: [Biofuel] Gangs of America Power and the disabling of democracy

2005-07-30 Thread RobertCVA
Any skeptics out there? for more, if you can stomach it, go to altria.com

Re: [Biofuel] The New Blue States/Country

2005-08-01 Thread RobertCVA
In a message dated 8/1/2005 1:45:27 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: "I am amazed and the quanity of people who will uphold and fight for some snails life, being of great importance and right to live, yet believe it is okay to kill babies. That the Child is of

[Biofuel] NYTimes.com: Why America Is More Dependent Than Ever on Saudi Arabia

2005-08-06 Thread robertcva
Title: E-Mail This This page was sent to you by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message from sender: fyi BUSINESS / WORLD BUSINESS | August 6, 2005 Why America Is More Dependent Than Ever on Saudi Arabia By JAD MOUAWAD Alternatives to Saudi Arabias

Re: [Biofuel] Hiroshima and Nagasaki: Worst terror attacks in history

2005-08-08 Thread RobertCVA
RE: post excerpted below. Some hard questions, and painful for those of us in the US who are conflicted about the good and bad our country, or its citizens, have done in and to the world, and in this country itself. [As I write this, I have in my wallet a $20 bill, with the picture of

[Biofuel] Check out Diesel Won't Solve Our Gasoline Woes

2005-08-08 Thread RobertCVA
Click here: Diesel Won't Solve Our Gasoline Woes FYI. No mention of biodiesel to augment supplies. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey

Re: [Biofuel] Sept 1 declared no buy gas day

2005-08-29 Thread RobertCVA
You get 0 mpg when idling in stopped traffic. I suppose it's worse than "0". Since in most cars the engine keeps running while stopped, it has the effect of a negative mpg on overall gas mileage.My 2004 Prius' engine stops when the traffic stops, which is great for mpg and air quality. And

[Biofuel] NYTimes.com: The New Prize: Alternative Fuels

2005-09-10 Thread robertcva
Title: E-Mail This This page was sent to you by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message from sender: fyi BUSINESS | September 10, 2005 The New Prize: Alternative Fuels By DANNY HAKIM The nations roads are a moving laboratory of alternatives to

[Biofuel] NYTimes.com: On Oil Supply, Opinions Aren't Scarce

2005-09-10 Thread robertcva
Title: E-Mail This This page was sent to you by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message from sender: fyi BUSINESS | September 10, 2005 Joseph Nocera: On Oil Supply, Opinions Arent Scarce Does it surprise you that when it comes to one of the most vital