[biofuel] Re: WVO wick
Has anyone tried burning wvo in a kerosene heater? Some kerosene heaters have round, fiberglass wicks and it seems like they might just work for wvo. Jeff From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: WVO wick Has anyone tried or had luck burning WVO with a wick? Yes. On another board I read that a guy built a burner based around a wick method. So did we. It's said, as with biodiesel, that it won't travel up a wick, but it depends on the wick. The wick should be loose, not tightly wound, thick (about 1cm) with plenty of room in whatever it's fitted into (a loose fit), and the burning bit has to be less than about 3cm maximum from the fuel level. Todd Swearingen previously suggested a donut-shaped arrangement around the burning wick(s) to get the fuel level right. You'd need a few such wicks going for an effective stove, maybe six or eight. Adjusting them all, and lowering them to extinguish the stove, are problems to be solved, but shouldn't be too hard. Best Keith Thanks [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Re: WVO wick
It does not work. It might work better in something like a Nordic stove. On Wednesday, February 18, 2004, at 08:05 AM, Jeff wrote: Has anyone tried burning wvo in a kerosene heater? Some kerosene heaters have round, fiberglass wicks and it seems like they might just work for wvo. Jeff From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: WVO wick Has anyone tried or had luck burning WVO with a wick? Yes. On another board I read that a guy built a burner based around a wick method. So did we. It's said, as with biodiesel, that it won't travel up a wick, but it depends on the wick. The wick should be loose, not tightly wound, thick (about 1cm) with plenty of room in whatever it's fitted into (a loose fit), and the burning bit has to be less than about 3cm maximum from the fuel level. Todd Swearingen previously suggested a donut-shaped arrangement around the burning wick(s) to get the fuel level right. You'd need a few such wicks going for an effective stove, maybe six or eight. Adjusting them all, and lowering them to extinguish the stove, are problems to be solved, but shouldn't be too hard. Best Keith Thanks [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Re: WVO wick
x-charset ISO-8859-1Jeff, Has anyone tried burning wvo in a kerosene heater? Some kerosene heaters have round, fiberglass wicks and it seems like they might just work for wvo. It won't work as they are designed. You need to keep the fuel level less than one inch from the combustion point due to the poor wicking properties of vegetable oil. You may also experience reasonable amounts of carmeling due to the glycerol fragment of the oil molecules. Take your lead from floating oil candles, canning jar oil candles and some of the designs of ancient oil lamps. What you will find in each of these instances is that the combustion point stays near the fluid level. With floating wicks the wick platform lowers as the fuel is consumed, keeping the flame at a constant distance from the fuel. In canning jar candles the wick oxidizes (self-trims/burns)as the fuel is consumed, keeping the flame at a constant distance from the fuel. In oil lamps of ancient design (Greek, Roman, Arabic, Gothic, Jewish, etc.) the lamp resevoirs are a low profile yet relatively broad, permitting a moderate amount of fuel in a vessel of small height, keeping the capillary function relatively short and the fuel level always in near proximity to the combustion point. You'll find the same problem exists, albeit to a lesser degree, with biodiesel, which is still slightly more viscous than kerosene. You'll also find biodiesel to be a cleaner burning fuel than veg oil, requiring less wick maintenance (carbon buildup and carmeling) and quite suitable for indoor use almost no matter what the parent feedstock was. The solution to utilizing existing equipment, such as the wick heater you are speaking of, would be to design a drip fuel system that fed the wick at a level just below the combustion point. Leaning out the fuel-to-air mixture would be accomplished through a needle valve that would increase or decrease fuel flow. The oil would have to be well filtered to prevent needle valve plugging. Todd Swearingen - Original Message - From: Jeff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2004 11:05 AM Subject: [biofuel] Re: WVO wick Has anyone tried burning wvo in a kerosene heater? Some kerosene heaters have round, fiberglass wicks and it seems like they might just work for wvo. Jeff From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: WVO wick Has anyone tried or had luck burning WVO with a wick? Yes. On another board I read that a guy built a burner based around a wick method. So did we. It's said, as with biodiesel, that it won't travel up a wick, but it depends on the wick. The wick should be loose, not tightly wound, thick (about 1cm) with plenty of room in whatever it's fitted into (a loose fit), and the burning bit has to be less than about 3cm maximum from the fuel level. Todd Swearingen previously suggested a donut-shaped arrangement around the burning wick(s) to get the fuel level right. You'd need a few such wicks going for an effective stove, maybe six or eight. Adjusting them all, and lowering them to extinguish the stove, are problems to be solved, but shouldn't be too hard. Best Keith Thanks [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ /x-charset
[biofuel] Re: WVO wick
x-charset ISO-8859-1Thanks for all the comments. These were my thoughts, but wanted input from others. On the the other board(I can't remember it's name) maybe http://www.veggieavenger.com you know how it is...1am your bouncing from link to link to link to link and now you can't remember how to get home again. This guy was making a thing he called a log replacer or something to that effect. He made a system that used a wick(s). He did drip the oil in to refill as it was burned. I think he also used a wick on a float. The chamber was set up so that if the oil drip got away it would fill up the chamber and snuff out the wick before it overflowed to a outside tank. He put the system in his fireplace insert. I do not know how hot this would get, but I guess if you had several wicks going you might get some heat. Oh.and no I am not trying to impress my honey with a romantic WVO lamp.Don't think I would like the smell of McDonalds in my living room. She already thinks I'm crazy. Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ /x-charset
