Re: [svg-developers] Firefox

2006-04-27 Thread Jeroen Vanattenhoven
The latest version of Firefox has native support for SVG (most of it, 
mainly animation is yet to come). For Internet Explorer you have to 
install the Adobe SVG Viewer 3.03, available on the website of Adobe.

Jeroen

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AW: [svg-developers] Re: Vote for SVG Support in IE7

2006-04-27 Thread Armin Mueller
John,

just a thought about copy-and-modify use of standards.

XMLHttpRequest is no standard but a modification of a standard from
Microsoft
getURL is no standard but a modification of a standard from Adobe
windows object in javascript is no standard but a modification of a standard

I think sometimes we have also advantages in modifying standards

Armin

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 The Internet Explorer 7 team is now taking input on how to support SVG 
 in the final build of IE7, and also looking to ideas for IE8.
 

SVG is MIME type text/svg+xml - and the xmlns value for SVG 1.1 has already
been published.


Personally, after seeing how incompable JScript was with Javascript, J# was
with Java, and VC++ was with C++ for a long time - I just hope they take
their time, and do it right the first time.

I think the world has had enough of copy-and-modify use of standards during
the last decade to last it the next century.

If they focus on implementing the same subset of the standard as Firefox or
a proper superset of it, that would be pretty good for all involved, right?

Right now it is looking like Firefox 2.0 will be released before IE 7 goes
final, let alone IE 8. If they try to do too much new stuff in IE 7, it is
never going to come out. Then people will not get all the important fixes
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[svg-developers] Re: getting the current translate and scale of an element

2006-04-27 Thread Andreas Neumann
yes, you can use

var ctm = myElement.getTransformToElement(document.documentElement);

which would give you the transform matrix from your current node to the root 
element. Of 
course you can use any other node in the hierarchy instead of 
document.documentElement 
as argument.

You can also use 

var ctm = myElement.getCTM();

which gives you the ctm from your element to the element's parent node.

Note that .getTransformToElement() doesn't work in ASV3, but .getCTM() works. 
You need 
a workaround here, see code below.

--

//this code is copied from Kevin Lindsey
//http://www.kevlindev.com/tutorials/basics/transformations/toUserSpace/index.htm
function getTransformToRootElement(node) {
try {
//this part is for fully conformant players
var CTM = node.getTransformToElement(document.documentElement);
}
catch (ex) {
//this part is for ASV3 or other non-conformant players
// Initialize our CTM the node's Current Transformation Matrix
var CTM = node.getCTM();
// Work our way through the ancestor nodes stopping at the SVG 
Document
while ( ( node = node.parentNode ) != document ) {
// Multiply the new CTM to the one with what we have 
accumulated so far
CTM = node.getCTM().multiply(CTM);
}
}
return CTM;
}

-

See also http://www.w3.org/TR/SVG11/coords.html#TransformMatrixDefined on how 
to 
interpret the matrix.

Hope this helps,
Andreas

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 I'm pretty new to this, so this may be a dumb question. :-)
 
 Is there an easier way, in both FF and ASV, to get an element's current 
 transform (preferably as individual items) than reading and parsing it's 
 transform attribute?
 
 It seems a little clunky to have to parse and rewrite the whole tranform 
 attribute every time I want to make a change, eg alter an item's scale 
 but not it's translate. It works but it seems a little insane.
 
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[svg-developers] Vote for Microsoft SVG

2006-04-27 Thread Jeroen Vanattenhoven
Hello,

Could somebody explain again how to vote for this? I logged in with my 
msn account, registered for something. After that I got the msn screen 
again, after loggin in I got the register screen again.

Why do they make those websites so difficult? It's the opposite of 
usability.

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Re: [svg-developers] image onload

2006-04-27 Thread David Dailey
At 09:04 PM 4/26/2006, Guy wrote:
i'm trying to access the onload event on an image element.


H... I was baffled as to why this shouldn't work, so I tried the following:
image id=I x=20 y=20 height=300 width=240 
onclick=carve(5,5) onload=alert('here')
xlink:href=../p17.jpg clip-path=url(#CP)/image

The alert fired just fine from IE (ASV 3) Opera 9 and FF1.5

The onclick works too.

Perhaps there is another problem with your image element?




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Re: [svg-developers] image onload

2006-04-27 Thread Guy Morton
try setting the onload from in javascript - that's what i'm attempting 
and she no work.

David Dailey wrote:
 At 09:04 PM 4/26/2006, Guy wrote:
   
 i'm trying to access the onload event on an image element.
 


 H... I was baffled as to why this shouldn't work, so I tried the 
 following:
 image id=I x=20 y=20 height=300 width=240 
 onclick=carve(5,5) onload=alert('here')
 xlink:href=../p17.jpg clip-path=url(#CP)/image

 The alert fired just fine from IE (ASV 3) Opera 9 and FF1.5

 The onclick works too.

 Perhaps there is another problem with your image element?




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[svg-developers] recommend web hosting service that supports SVG?

2006-04-27 Thread Peter Thompson
Can someone please recommend a reliable, inexpensive
web hosting company that supports SVG?  I have very
few requirements:
1)supports .svg files
2)supports .svgz files (I found one that supports svg
but not svgz)
3)inexpensive
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[svg-developers] Re: Firefox

2006-04-27 Thread Robert Russell
If you really want to install the Adobe plugin for Firefox, it can be
done for now. This can be handy for testing your SVG in Firefox and in
ASV without having IE open.


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[svg-developers] Re: Vote for Microsoft SVG

2006-04-27 Thread Robert Russell
It is more difficult than it has to be, but the hoops you jump through
should mean that a vote carries more weight (in part because there
will be less participants).

I had to log in to Passport then register for the Connect part. After
that I had to choose the part that I wanted to participate in: IE
feedback. Finally I was able to search for the SVG issue. 

Am I missing any steps?

Yes, a lot of hassle.

Rob Russell
http://www.getsvg.com/forum

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 Could somebody explain again how to vote for this? I logged in with my 
 msn account, registered for something. After that I got the msn screen 
 again, after loggin in I got the register screen again.
 
 Why do they make those websites so difficult? It's the opposite of 
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Re: [svg-developers] recommend web hosting service that supports SVG?

2006-04-27 Thread Alex Amies
Peter,

I use www.hostexcellence.com.  They allow you to set the mapping between
file extension and content type, which enables this.  This works for my .svg
files but I haven't tried .svgz.  You can check out a couple of embedded svg
files on my site at

http://www.medicalcomputing.net/svg_tutorial.html

The hosting service only costs a few dollars a month.

Alex

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 1)supports .svg files
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[svg-developers] Inlining of image/bitmap data?

2006-04-27 Thread Justin Clift
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Hi all,

I'm coding an Open Source GUI for creating eLearning (www.flameproject.org).

At the stage of writing the initial output side of things (animated SVG
and Flash).

Looking around for how to embed bitmap/image data inside an SVG, but
can't seem to find it.

_Can_ find info on how to reference an external image. i.e.

  image href=/some/external/path/image.gif width=50 height=50 /

But that seems very non-practical for my kind of application.

Is it even possible to embed/inline bitmap data into an SVG?  I'm
starting to think it's just not possible.  :(

Regards and best wishes,

Justin Clift



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Re: [svg-developers] image onload

2006-04-27 Thread David Dailey
At 09:34 AM 4/27/2006, you wrote:
try setting the onload from in javascript - that's what i'm attempting
and she no work.

Oh... now I see what you're talking about --

I tried the following (avoiding your function() constructor to 
simplify things):

 I=svgDoc.getElementById(I)//the image tag in SVG
 IM=new Image()
 IM.src=../p17.jpg
 IM.onload=announce  //a function containing an alert()
 I.setAttributeNS(xlinkns,xlink:href,IM.src)

It works in FF and Opera, and it works once in IE. Once the image has 
loaded once, the browser seems to cache the memory of it being loaded 
already so it only works once (try renaming the file and pointing the 
browser at a new file -- I'll be you can get the function to activate 
again. Note: I did this by building a virtual image in JavaScript 
rather than assigning an onload attribute to the image tag -- I don't 
know if this matters.

Once might be enough for many purposes, but I agree that the problem 
is a problem and will hope others can help us out. I would share your 
interest in finding a solution to this.

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[svg-developers] Re: Vote for SVG Support in IE7

2006-04-27 Thread Francis Hemsher
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 The voting is currently at 72 and counting...
 (I looked at other voting subjects, and SVG can pull ahead of the 
 pack in voting interest.) 
 
 I think the knowledgeble comments with each vote are excellent, 
 showing a substantial awareness of SVG, the marketplace, how IE can 
 participate.
 

The voting count is presently 125, on a geometric progression:), 
currently ahead of all other voting items. Keep on truckin'

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[svg-developers] error SVG view

2006-04-27 Thread Andre Freire
Hello, Someone knows how can i resolve the problem.
  When i open a page with JSP/SVG content, the result is a windows with the 
options (open, save, cancel,...). 
  When i use winXp i don't have this problem, but when i use win2000 or win98 
the problem apper.


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[svg-developers] Re: Vote for SVG Support in IE7

2006-04-27 Thread Jeff Schiller

I'd like to point out that this thing we're voting on is recognized as
an enhancement, not a bug (by the originator).  While I agree with
this, I suspect it also means that votes are counted somewhat on a
curve (i.e. they give preference to actual bugs).

Just my take - BUT KEEP VOTING!

Jeff

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  The voting is currently at 72 and counting...
  (I looked at other voting subjects, and SVG can pull ahead of the 
  pack in voting interest.) 
  
  I think the knowledgeble comments with each vote are excellent, 
  showing a substantial awareness of SVG, the marketplace, how IE can 
  participate.
  
 
 The voting count is presently 125, on a geometric progression:), 
 currently ahead of all other voting items. Keep on truckin'
 
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[svg-developers] Re: Vote for Microsoft SVG

2006-04-27 Thread Jeff Schiller
Search here for schiller :
http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2006/03/24/560095.aspx#comments

And see the following comment from Al Billings (from the ieblog):

The requirement that people must log in with Passport to browse bugs
will be going away in an update to the site software in the next few
months. It is already planned by the Connect team. This was actually
one of the things we discussed when considering the software because
the IE team would prefer anonymous browsing as well.

This was one month ago, so you can assume that we have at least 1-2
months until we can expect the login requirement to go away.

Regards,
Jeff

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 It is more difficult than it has to be, but the hoops you jump through
 should mean that a vote carries more weight (in part because there
 will be less participants).
 
 I had to log in to Passport then register for the Connect part. After
 that I had to choose the part that I wanted to participate in: IE
 feedback. Finally I was able to search for the SVG issue. 
 
 Am I missing any steps?
 
 Yes, a lot of hassle.
 
 Rob Russell
 http://www.getsvg.com/forum
 
 --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Jeroen Vanattenhoven
 jeroen.vanattenhoven@ wrote:
 
  Hello,
  
  Could somebody explain again how to vote for this? I logged in
with my 
  msn account, registered for something. After that I got the msn
screen 
  again, after loggin in I got the register screen again.
  
  Why do they make those websites so difficult? It's the opposite of 
  usability.
  
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RE: [svg-developers] Re: Vote for SVG Support in IE7

2006-04-27 Thread Doug Schepers
Hi, Francis-

Nice work getting this ball rolling. I'm not sure how much affect it will
have, but it certainly can't hurt. I also posted this to SVG.org.

Francis Hemsher wrote:
|
| P.S. hopefully we will be a legitimate bug for IE8's native 
| SVG Object.

There will probably be updates between IE7 and IE8... let's hope they
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Re: [svg-developers] image onload

2006-04-27 Thread Jonathan Watt
Have you guys tried

  svgDoc.getElementById(I).reload();

?

On 4/27/06, David Dailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 At 09:34 AM 4/27/2006, you wrote:
 try setting the onload from in javascript - that's what i'm attempting
 and she no work.

 Oh... now I see what you're talking about --

 I tried the following (avoiding your function() constructor to
 simplify things):

  I=svgDoc.getElementById(I)//the image tag in SVG
  IM=new Image()
  IM.src=../p17.jpg
  IM.onload=announce  //a function containing an
 alert()
  I.setAttributeNS(xlinkns,xlink:href,IM.src)

 It works in FF and Opera, and it works once in IE. Once the image has
 loaded once, the browser seems to cache the memory of it being loaded
 already so it only works once (try renaming the file and pointing the
 browser at a new file -- I'll be you can get the function to activate
 again. Note: I did this by building a virtual image in JavaScript
 rather than assigning an onload attribute to the image tag -- I don't
 know if this matters.

 Once might be enough for many purposes, but I agree that the problem
 is a problem and will hope others can help us out. I would share your
 interest in finding a solution to this.

 David



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Re: [svg-developers] Inlining of image/bitmap data?

2006-04-27 Thread Guy Morton
Hi Justin,

This is possible - don't despair. :-)

Image data can be embedded as base64 encoded data. I don't have an 
example handy unfortunately. Maybe someone else will be able to post 
more info.

Guy


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 I'm coding an Open Source GUI for creating eLearning (www.flameproject.org).

 At the stage of writing the initial output side of things (animated SVG
 and Flash).

 Looking around for how to embed bitmap/image data inside an SVG, but
 can't seem to find it.

 _Can_ find info on how to reference an external image. i.e.

   image href=/some/external/path/image.gif width=50 height=50 /

 But that seems very non-practical for my kind of application.

 Is it even possible to embed/inline bitmap data into an SVG?  I'm
 starting to think it's just not possible.  :(

 Regards and best wishes,

 Justin Clift



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Re: [svg-developers] Inlining of image/bitmap data?

2006-04-27 Thread Phi Tran
You can also use:
http://www.motobit.com/util/base64-decoder-encoder.asp
where you can import your image file then have it encoded into base64
format. THEN
append this data:image/png;base64, in front. (for png) or
data:image/tif;base64, for tif .. so on.  (all the comma and the
colum,semi-column should be exact)

Good luck.

Phi


On 4/27/06, John Coe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 there was a sample of inline image on Adobe's page, it looks like they
 removed it, but I found a copy of it here:( this one is inside a html page)
   http://www.dcs.shef.ac.uk/~davea/Library/images/SVGAbout.svg
   here is a page with some documentation:
   http://www.focusresearch.com/gw/?p=165

   the one I have saved on my machine is pure svg, it looks like the image
 is stored and displayed in the style sheet like this:
   svg  width=505 height=366 viewBox=0 0 505 366
   xmlns:adobe=http://ns.adobe.com/AdobeSVGViewerExtensions/2.0/; 
 style type=text/css
 ![CDATA[
 @font-face{font-family:'AdobeCorpID-MyriadPkg';src:url(data:;base64,\

 T1RUTwADACAAAQAQQ0ZGIIG/LWA8AAAd3EdQT1MFWIHmAAAeyAAADXBjbWFwQsH/+gAAHhgA\

 AACwAQAEAgABAQEWQWRvYmVDb3JwSUQtTXlyaWFkUGtnAAEBASD4GwH4FgRe+476XvnQBR0AAKYs\

 DfdbD/d9EdwcHYsSAAEBAX9Db3B5cmlnaHQgKGMpIDE5OTMsIDE5OTUgQWRvYmUgU3lzdGVtcyBJ\
   

   Is there some reason that an external image is better?
   This looks pretty criptic and complex.



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 Hi all,

 I'm coding an Open Source GUI for creating eLearning (www.flameproject.org
 ).

 At the stage of writing the initial output side of things (animated SVG
 and Flash).

 Looking around for how to embed bitmap/image data inside an SVG, but
 can't seem to find it.

 _Can_ find info on how to reference an external image. i.e.

   image href=/some/external/path/image.gif width=50 height=50 /

 But that seems very non-practical for my kind of application.

 Is it even possible to embed/inline bitmap data into an SVG?  I'm
 starting to think it's just not possible.  :(

 Regards and best wishes,

 Justin Clift



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Re: [svg-developers] Inlining of image/bitmap data?

2006-04-27 Thread Phi Tran
Oh. Something I forget:

I have NO LUCK on IE(4,5,6)  when using bae64 data encoding (except on
mime). Maby when you go thur ASV there is different.



On 4/27/06, Phi Tran [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 You can also use:
 http://www.motobit.com/util/base64-decoder-encoder.asp
 where you can import your image file then have it encoded into base64
 format. THEN
 append this data:image/png;base64, in front. (for png) or
 data:image/tif;base64, for tif .. so on.  (all the comma and the
 colum,semi-column should be exact)

 Good luck.

 Phi



 On 4/27/06, John Coe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  there was a sample of inline image on Adobe's page, it looks like they
  removed it, but I found a copy of it here:( this one is inside a html page)
 
  http://www.dcs.shef.ac.uk/~davea/Library/images/SVGAbout.svghttp://www.dcs.shef.ac.uk/%7Edavea/Library/images/SVGAbout.svg
here is a page with some documentation:
http://www.focusresearch.com/gw/?p=165
 
the one I have saved on my machine is pure svg, it looks like the
  image is stored and displayed in the style sheet like this:
svg  width=505 height=366 viewBox=0 0 505 366
xmlns:adobe=http://ns.adobe.com/AdobeSVGViewerExtensions/2.0/  
  style type=text/css
  ![CDATA[
  @font-face{font-family:'AdobeCorpID-MyriadPkg';src:url(data:;base64,\
  T1RUTwADACAAAQAQQ0ZGIIG/LWA8AAAd3EdQT1MFWIHmAAAeyAAADXBjbWFwQsH/+gAAHhgA\
 
 
  AACwAQAEAgABAQEWQWRvYmVDb3JwSUQtTXlyaWFkUGtnAAEBASD4GwH4FgRe+476XvnQBR0AAKYs\
 
  DfdbD/d9EdwcHYsSAAEBAX9Db3B5cmlnaHQgKGMpIDE5OTMsIDE5OTUgQWRvYmUgU3lzdGVtcyBJ\

 
Is there some reason that an external image is better?
This looks pretty criptic and complex.
 
 
 
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  Hi all,
 
  I'm coding an Open Source GUI for creating eLearning (
  www.flameproject.org).
 
  At the stage of writing the initial output side of things (animated SVG
  and Flash).
 
  Looking around for how to embed bitmap/image data inside an SVG, but
  can't seem to find it.
 
  _Can_ find info on how to reference an external image. i.e.
 
image href=/some/external/path/image.gif width=50 height=50 /
 
  But that seems very non-practical for my kind of application.
 
  Is it even possible to embed/inline bitmap data into an SVG?  I'm
  starting to think it's just not possible.  :(
 
  Regards and best wishes,
 
  Justin Clift
 
 
 
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Re: [svg-developers] Inlining of image/bitmap data?

2006-04-27 Thread Justin Clift
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Phi Tran wrote:
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  Hi Justin!
 
 Let me know if you 'really' want to do it. You can do simple object (about
 5k)  to write your embeded anything to the local file. Then href to there.
 We have done similar and it works beautifully.

Thanks Phil. :)

For the application I'm working on, it really needs to have the
resulting .svg(z) file be completely self contained.  i.e. one file has
all the elements needed.

If it generated images into separate files instead, it would be a major
pain for people to deal with.

Thanks for the thoughts though!

Regards and best wishes,

Justin Clift


 Have fun.
 
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Re: [svg-developers] Inlining of image/bitmap data?

2006-04-27 Thread Justin Clift
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Cameron McCormack wrote:
 Guy Morton:
 This is possible - don't despair. :-)

 Image data can be embedded as base64 encoded data. I don't have an 
 example handy unfortunately. Maybe someone else will be able to post 
 more info.
 
 Hixie's data: URI kitchen page is good:
 
   http://software.hixie.ch/utilities/cgi/data/data
 
 Just upload the image with the file upload form field with the base64
 box ticked and you'll get back a data: URI that represents your image.

Cool, that's useful, thanks. :)

Regards and best wishes,

Justin Clift
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Re: [svg-developers] Inlining of image/bitmap data?

2006-04-27 Thread Justin Clift
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John Coe wrote:
 there was a sample of inline image on Adobe's page, it looks like they 
 removed it, but I found a copy of it here:( this one is inside a html page)
   http://www.dcs.shef.ac.uk/~davea/Library/images/SVGAbout.svg

Heh, don't try viewing that with standard FireFox, it just comes up with
an XML Parsing Error page. :(


   here is a page with some documentation:
   http://www.focusresearch.com/gw/?p=165

Now *that's* got some useful looking links in it too. :)

I'll likely need to embed fonts in my output svg so that helps in
multiple ways.  (Hmmm, I'll need to learn how fonts are supposed to be
represented too, I guess).


   the one I have saved on my machine is pure svg, it looks like the image is 
 stored and displayed in the style sheet like this:
   svg  width=505 height=366 viewBox=0 0 505 366
   xmlns:adobe=http://ns.adobe.com/AdobeSVGViewerExtensions/2.0/; 
  style type=text/css
  ![CDATA[
 @font-face{font-family:'AdobeCorpID-MyriadPkg';src:url(data:;base64,\
 T1RUTwADACAAAQAQQ0ZGIIG/LWA8AAAd3EdQT1MFWIHmAAAeyAAADXBjbWFwQsH/+gAAHhgA\
 AACwAQAEAgABAQEWQWRvYmVDb3JwSUQtTXlyaWFkUGtnAAEBASD4GwH4FgRe+476XvnQBR0AAKYs\
 DfdbD/d9EdwcHYsSAAEBAX9Db3B5cmlnaHQgKGMpIDE5OTMsIDE5OTUgQWRvYmUgU3lzdGVtcyBJ\
   

   Is there some reason that an external image is better?
   This looks pretty criptic and complex.

Hmm, methinks you did a typo there, meaning to ask why external images
aren't better?

Yep, the application I'm creating is to generate animations/simulations
of applications.  For example, it takes screenshots of an application
(i.e. OpenOffice), then in editing mode the user can highlight areas of
the screenshot, apply text to it, etc.  Useful way of creating learning
to teach people how to use a given application (i.e. OpenOffice again).

These are examples of the kind of thing my application will create, but
were done with a product called Macromedia Captive (it outputs flash files):

  http://www.digitaldistribution.com/about/lessons/

Aiming initially for the same kind of thing, but also with SVG support,
and once that's happening I'll start things added that Flash can't do.
i.e. support for right-mouse click events (very important for my kind of
app).

Regards and best wishes,

Justin Clift



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