Re: [swinog] The ISP Association: one for all, all for one

2010-10-29 Diskussionsfäden Claudio Prezzi
Hi all Why do you plan to build a new association if there are already so many associations in this industry? ICTSwitzerland.ch for example is the head association of the ICT industry. Below it there are for example asut.ch, the Swiss Telecommunications Association and simsa.ch, the Swiss

Re: [swinog] The ISP Association: one for all, all for one

2010-10-29 Diskussionsfäden Andreas Fink
Am 29.10.2010 um 12:08 schrieb Claudio Prezzi: Hi all Why do you plan to build a new association if there are already so many associations in this industry? ICTSwitzerland.ch for example is the head association of the ICT industry. Below it there are for example asut.ch, the Swiss

[swinog] Some ISPs *do* look at content, maybe not the type of ISP for the association? (Was: The ISP Association: one for all, all for one)

2010-10-29 Diskussionsfäden Jeroen Massar
[Andreas: please configure your mailer to do line breaks at ~76 or so as my screen still is not 1500 chars wide and a lot of mailers just extend the scrollbar to the right right right right right... especially when one replies, which makes it kind of annoying, just think line breaks make you look

Re: [swinog] Some ISPs *do* look at content, maybe not the type of ISP for the association? (Was: The ISP Association: one for all, all for one)

2010-10-29 Diskussionsfäden Thomas Mangin
/me pass on the debate of what is acceptable as content inspect to protect the innocent. - That the ISP is not doing content modification (eg there are ISPs who attempted to change Google Ads with their own! Although I have not heard about this yet for Switzerland) Why do you think

Re: [swinog] Some ISPs *do* look at content, maybe not the type of ISP for the association? (Was: The ISP Association: one for all, all for one)

2010-10-29 Diskussionsfäden Jeroen Massar
On 2010-10-29 14:45, Thomas Mangin wrote: /me pass on the debate of what is acceptable as content inspect to protect the innocent. It is indeed a huge discussion, but the main point is that not providing transparency that it is happening, not notifying users of such a change and not providing

Re: [swinog] Some ISPs *do* look at content, maybe not the type of ISP for the association? (Was: The ISP Association: one for all, all for one)

2010-10-29 Diskussionsfäden Pascal Gloor
[snip of lots of lines] The further question is, should an association like this have ground rules for their membership in which when one becomes a member that states amongst others: - That the ISP is not doing content-inspection - That the ISP is not doing content modification (eg