Re: [swinog] [swinog-core] ## SwiNOG #37 - Participant Info ##

[Simon Ryf]

Hi Benoit,

I'm very sorry to hear that.
To be honest we've never done remote presentations and because we already have 
a tight schedule, I hope it is not too draconic to put you to the next meeting.
I'm juggling with lots of stuff which is different this time and I'm a bit 
anxious to put more on my list which could fail :-/

I would be delighted if I could write you (hopefully soon) for a presentation 
on SwiNOG #38 (whatever topic).

Besides the entry restrictions from Belgium the list is growing fast and just 
today government announced that they will take further measures tomorrow. So 
not even clear what will hit us in the face tomorrow.

Br
Simon



From: Steven Glogger 
Date: Monday, 29 November 2021 at 13:28
To: Benoit Claise 
Cc: Simon Ryf , swinog-c...@swinog.ch 
, swinog@lists.swinog.ch , 
Pierre Vander Vorst , thomas.g...@swisscom.com 

Subject: Re: [swinog-core] ## SwiNOG #37 - Participant Info ##
Hi Benoit

Simon will get back to you regarding the presentation and how to proceed.
@Pierre: As you Paid and cannot come due to higher force please decide here 
what we should do with your money (e.g. donation, refund, …) > 
https://www.swinog.ch/refund/

greetings
-steven


Am 29.11.2021 um 13:09 schrieb Benoit Claise 
mailto:benoit.cla...@huawei.com>>:

Dear SwiNOG organizers,

We (Pierre Vander Vorst and I) have a problem, coming from Belgium to attend 
SwiNOG 37
https://www.bag.admin.ch/bag/fr/home/das-bag/aktuell/medienmitteilungen.msg-id-86143.html
En outre, à partir du 26 novembre 2021, à 20 h, les personnes entrant en Suisse 
en provenance de cette région, de Hong Kong, d’Israël et de la Belgique doivent 
présenter un test COVID-19 négatif et se placer en quarantaine durant dix jours.


Bei der Einreise aus der Region Südafrika, aus Hongkong, Israel und Belgien 
müssen zudem alle Personen ab 26.11.2021, 20 Uhr, einen negativen Covid-19-Test 
vorlegen und sich für 10 Tage in Quarantäne begeben
https://www.bag.admin.ch/
 is an official web site, as this is referred from the 
https://www.eda.admin.ch/countries/belgium/en/home/representations/embassy.htm
This decision was taken last Friday.

Very sorry about the inconvenience. I guess we share the same frustration, 
trying to organize meetings during these pandemic times.

If there is a possibility for me to present (and attend) remotely, I'm 
obviously available. Let me know.

Regards, Benoit

Dear SwiNOG #37 Participant,
Please find general information about the SwiNOG #37 meeting below.

Date and Agenda
Date: 02.12.2021
Registration: 08h15 - 09h15
Agenda: https://www.swinog.ch/meetings/swinog37/

Coronavirus - Measures and ordinances

3G (vaccinated / cured / tested) rules are applied for the event.
See further info here: 
https://www.bag.admin.ch/bag/en/home/krankheiten/ausbrueche-epidemien-pandemien/aktuelle-ausbrueche-epidemien/novel-cov/massnahmen-des-bundes.html

Update November 26th 2021: The Canton of Berne stated, that beside the 
certificate obligation there is now a requirement to wear masks (except 
speakers).
See more details here: 
https://www.besondere-lage.sites.be.ch/de/start.html?newsID=ca18bb65-66a5-46d7-9d57-c5b17050924d

-> Please have your certificate and identification (ID, Passport or 
Drivers-License) ready when entering / registering at the Event.
If you have any doubts if your certificate and/or identification is valid, 
please contact us before the meeting day.

Please note that the well-being and health of every participant is our highest 
priority. Please help and support us all by considering below:

  *   If you feel sick, stay at home! You'll get a full refund.
  *   If you cannot ID yourself or do not have a valid certificate you are NOT 
allowed to enter the Building, no 

Re: [swinog] [swinog-core] ## SwiNOG #37 - Participant Info ##

[Steven Glogger]

Hi Benoit

Simon will get back to you regarding the presentation and how to proceed.
@Pierre: As you Paid and cannot come due to higher force please decide here 
what we should do with your money (e.g. donation, refund, …) > 
https://www.swinog.ch/refund/ 

greetings
-steven

> Am 29.11.2021 um 13:09 schrieb Benoit Claise :
> 
> Dear SwiNOG organizers,
> 
> We (Pierre Vander Vorst and I) have a problem, coming from Belgium to attend 
> SwiNOG 37
> https://www.bag.admin.ch/bag/fr/home/das-bag/aktuell/medienmitteilungen.msg-id-86143.html
>  
> 
> En outre, à partir du 26 novembre 2021, à 20 h, les personnes entrant en 
> Suisse en provenance de cette région, de Hong Kong, d’Israël et de la 
> Belgique doivent présenter un test COVID-19 négatif et se placer en 
> quarantaine durant dix jours.
> 
> 
> Bei der Einreise aus der Region Südafrika, aus Hongkong, Israel und Belgien 
> müssen zudem alle Personen ab 26.11.2021, 20 Uhr, einen negativen 
> Covid-19-Test vorlegen und sich für 10 Tage in Quarantäne begeben
> 
> https://www.bag.admin.ch/ 
> 
>  is an official web site, as this is referred from the 
> https://www.eda.admin.ch/countries/belgium/en/home/representations/embassy.htm
>  
> 
> This decision was taken last Friday.
> 
> Very sorry about the inconvenience. I guess we share the same frustration, 
> trying to organize meetings during these pandemic times.
> 
> If there is a possibility for me to present (and attend) remotely, I'm 
> obviously available. Let me know.
> 
> Regards, Benoit
>> Dear SwiNOG #37 Participant,
>> Please find general information about the SwiNOG #37 meeting below.
>>  
>> Date and Agenda
>> Date: 02.12.2021
>> Registration: 08h15 - 09h15
>> Agenda: https://www.swinog.ch/meetings/swinog37/ 
>> 
>>  
>> Coronavirus - Measures and ordinances
>>  
>> 3G (vaccinated / cured / tested) rules are applied for the event.
>> See further info here: 
>> https://www.bag.admin.ch/bag/en/home/krankheiten/ausbrueche-epidemien-pandemien/aktuelle-ausbrueche-epidemien/novel-cov/massnahmen-des-bundes.html
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> Update November 26th 2021: The Canton of Berne stated, that beside the 
>> certificate obligation there is now a requirement to wear masks (except 
>> speakers).
>> See more details here: 
>> https://www.besondere-lage.sites.be.ch/de/start.html?newsID=ca18bb65-66a5-46d7-9d57-c5b17050924d
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> -> Please have your certificate and identification (ID, Passport or 
>> Drivers-License) ready when entering / registering at the Event.
>> If you have any doubts if your certificate and/or identification is valid, 
>> please contact us before the meeting day.
>>  
>> Please note that the well-being and health of every participant is our 
>> highest priority. Please help and support us all by considering below:
>> If you feel sick, stay at home! You'll get a full refund.
>> If you cannot ID yourself or do not have a valid certificate you are NOT 
>> allowed to enter the Building, no excuses made.
>> Please wear your batch at all times. (Batch == valid cert)
>> Check the weather and have appropriate clothing. During breaks and the 
>> social event we're probably more often outside as in other years.
>>  
>> Location and Travel Info
>>  
>> Location - Gurtenpark, Bern:
>> https://www.gurtenpark.ch/de-CH/Service-Pages/Anreise 
>> 
>> https://goo.gl/maps/kuxy4QUrcoy 
>>  
>> By Car:
>> 

Re: [swinog] SwiNOG #27 & COVID-19 | Please fill in survey

[Stanislav Sinyagin]

looks like there needs to be a new poll, because this one is broken. I
was also going to say "no", because the question looked like it was
asking about on-site meeting only.


On Mon, Jul 6, 2020 at 1:42 PM Jeroen Massar  wrote:
>
> On 2020-07-06 12:13, Steven Glogger wrote:
> > Hi community
> >
> > We’re currently in discussion if we will proceed with our SwiNOG #27
> > plans or if not…
> > We would like to get your opinion.
> > Please help us and provide an honest answer to our really short
> > questinaire (will take 30sec to fill in):
> > http://swinog.ch/covid/
>
>
> People be aware:
>
> If you select "no" on the first page ("Would you like to have a..."),
> then you do not get to chose the multi selector which has more useful
> options:
>
> - Remote: Join only if there is an remote / online session
> - On-Site: Join personally on site I would not join online nor remote -
> - I'll just watch the presentations and videos late…
> - I am ok for on-site if COVID infection rates drop by this tim…
> - Join Onsite, no live stream (otherwise less ppl attend,) if i…
>
>
> I think most people would have selected on of those options if they
> could: 70% said 'no' now and did not get to be represented in the second
> chart which skews the results quite a bit.
>
> Also, keep that in mind when looking at the chart: 33 responses no,
> while 10 of those could fill in the second chart, 23 did not get to see it.
>
>
> I am good with remote session (though I tend to then just watch the ones
> I am directly interested in to allow for questions/feedback, and watch
> the rest at a later point).
>
> Greets,
>   Jeroen
>
>
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Re: [swinog] SwiNOG #27 & COVID-19 | Please fill in survey

[Stanislav Sinyagin]

why not holding a virtual meeting? I can provide my paid Zoom account.

Maybe 3-4 morning sessions, 2 hours each, would be a convenient format.


On Mon, Jul 6, 2020 at 12:18 PM Steven Glogger  wrote:
>
> Hi community
>
> We’re currently in discussion if we will proceed with our SwiNOG #27 plans or 
> if not…
> We would like to get your opinion.
> Please help us and provide an honest answer to our really short questinaire 
> (will take 30sec to fill in):
> http://swinog.ch/covid/
>
> greeings
>
> -steven
> SwiNOG Core Member
>
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Re: [swinog] SwiNOG #27 & COVID-19 | Please fill in survey

[Jeroen Massar]

On 2020-07-06 12:13, Steven Glogger wrote:

Hi community

We’re currently in discussion if we will proceed with our SwiNOG #27 
plans or if not…

We would like to get your opinion.
Please help us and provide an honest answer to our really short 
questinaire (will take 30sec to fill in):

http://swinog.ch/covid/



People be aware:

If you select "no" on the first page ("Would you like to have a..."), 
then you do not get to chose the multi selector which has more useful 
options:


- Remote: Join only if there is an remote / online session
- On-Site: Join personally on site I would not join online nor remote - 
- I'll just watch the presentations and videos late…

- I am ok for on-site if COVID infection rates drop by this tim…
- Join Onsite, no live stream (otherwise less ppl attend,) if i…


I think most people would have selected on of those options if they 
could: 70% said 'no' now and did not get to be represented in the second 
chart which skews the results quite a bit.


Also, keep that in mind when looking at the chart: 33 responses no, 
while 10 of those could fill in the second chart, 23 did not get to see it.



I am good with remote session (though I tend to then just watch the ones 
I am directly interested in to allow for questions/feedback, and watch 
the rest at a later point).


Greets,
 Jeroen



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Re: [swinog] ##### SwiNOG#36 - Travel Info #####

[Stanislav Sinyagin]

but maybe it's your calendar that is wrong, and Simon's is the
reality. You never know

On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 12:11 AM Jeroen Massar  wrote:
>
> On 2019-11-12 21:51, Simon Ryf wrote:
> > Dear SwiNOG Community,
> >
> > Please find general information about the SwiNOG #36 meeting below.
> >
> > https://www.swinog.ch/meetings/swinog36/
> >
> > Date: 14.10.2018 - Registration 08h15 - 09h15
>
> Back to the future!
>
> I can only assume 14.11.2019 aka 'tomorrow' (thursday).
>
> Greets,
>   Jeroen
>(eating fresh homemade spanish croquetas de jamon serrano[1], thus
> won't be bothering anybody there ;)
>
> [1]
> https://spanishsabores.com/2011/10/12/croquetas-de-jamon-serrano-recipe-ham-croquettes/
>
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Re: [swinog] ##### SwiNOG#36 - Travel Info #####

[Jeroen Massar]

On 2019-11-12 21:51, Simon Ryf wrote:

Dear SwiNOG Community,

Please find general information about the SwiNOG #36 meeting below.

https://www.swinog.ch/meetings/swinog36/

Date: 14.10.2018 - Registration 08h15 - 09h15


Back to the future!

I can only assume 14.11.2019 aka 'tomorrow' (thursday).

Greets,
 Jeroen
  (eating fresh homemade spanish croquetas de jamon serrano[1], thus 
won't be bothering anybody there ;)


[1] 
https://spanishsabores.com/2011/10/12/croquetas-de-jamon-serrano-recipe-ham-croquettes/



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Re: [swinog] swinog Digest, Vol 174, Issue 3

[Andreas Fink]

On 11 Jul 2019, at 14:55, Daniel Stirnimann  wrote:
> 
> The pointers have been given before. This is your problem:
> 
> https://www.spamhaus.org/query/ip/79.134.251.203
> 
> Daniel


Yes above is my problem but at the same time it can not be the reason for mail 
delivery to bluewin.ch  coming back with a cryptic  DNSNULL 
error

Spamhaus has a issue with a customer of mine but they have not shown any proof. 
Above IP however is not in the disputed IP range, its my my well maintained 
mailserver which has never sent any spam and is not listed as sending any spam 
anywhere else. What Spamhaus is doing is trying to get ISPs to cancel contracts 
with well paying customers on first call (no judge, no proof) by putting the 
ISP's whole IP range into a blacklist (a /19 !) and thus punishing legitimate 
3rd parties as well. This is called coercion (Nötigung) which is a criminal 
offense punishable by law for up to 3 years in jail. We will see if Spamhaus 
prefers to go to jal or change their blacklisting policy.

Never the less. Sending emailst o bluewin.ch  has never 
been affected. I sent emails successfuly yesterday to bluewin users without a 
problem. I don't think Spamhaus's blacklist are being used by bluewin.ch 
 as otherwise we would have had issues a lot earlier.

So this doesn't explain any DNSNULL error. And frankly, the error message is 
really stupid misleading...


> 
> On 11.07.19 14:25, Andreas Fink wrote:
>> Except that this is not applicable. In my case my mailserver is not
>> hosted at Swisscom but on my own infrastructure, is on the same IP since
>> years, has proper MX records and reverse DNS entries and has delivered
>> email to the same bluewin customer yesterday successfully. Only the
>> reply on that receiver today which I received and replied again got
>> rejected. And the response is cryptic to me.  
>> 
>> And if you mail to ab...@bluewin.ch  you get
>> the same error...
>> 
>> So who is this famous DNSNULL I should contact?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 11 Jul 2019, at 13:49, Florin sfetea >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> See 
>>> https://community.swisscom.ch/t5/E-Mail/Bluewin-akzeptiert-E-Mails-von-eigener-Domain-nicht/td-p/570002
>>>  
>>>  
>>> Beste Grüsse, Regards si s-auzim de bine 
>>> Florin Sfetea
>>>  
>>> *From: *swinog-requ...@lists.swinog.ch
>>> 
>>> *Sent: *Thursday, July 11, 2019 12:00
>>> *To: *swinog@lists.swinog.ch 
>>> *Subject: *swinog Digest, Vol 174, Issue 3
>>>  
>>> Send swinog mailing list submissions to
>>>   swinog@lists.swinog.ch 
>>>  
>>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
>>>   http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
>>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
>>>   swinog-requ...@lists.swinog.ch
>>> 
>>>  
>>> You can reach the person managing the list at
>>>   swinog-ow...@lists.swinog.ch 
>>>  
>>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
>>> than "Re: Contents of swinog digest..."
>>>  
>>>  
>>> Today's Topics:
>>>  
>>>1. bluewin & DNSNULL (Andreas Fink)
>>>  
>>>  
>>> --
>>>  
>>> Message: 1
>>> Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2019 11:32:38 +0200
>>> From: Andreas Fink mailto:af...@list.fink.org>>
>>> To: "swi...@swinog.ch " >> >
>>> Subject: [swinog] bluewin & DNSNULL
>>> Message-ID: <75da5d85-1a68-4d10-94b8-6237fd9d5...@list.fink.org
>>> >
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>>  
>>>  
>>> Does any one have a clue what DNSNULL means in the following context
>>> of a mail delivery error?
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  
>>> <@bluewin.ch
>>>  >
>>> (mx-v02.bluewin.ch
>>>  :
>>> 554 mxbw.lb.bluewin.ch
>>>  vim
>>> dzmsp-mxin12.bluewin.ch
>>>  
>>> Swisscom AG IP: 79.134.251.203, You are not allowed 
>>> to send us mail. Please see DNSNULL if you feel this is in
>>> error)Reporting-MTA: dns; mail.fink.org
>>>  
>>> Arrival-Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2019 11:19:58 +0200
>>> ...


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Re: [swinog] swinog Digest, Vol 174, Issue 3

[Daniel Stirnimann]

The pointers have been given before. This is your problem:

https://www.spamhaus.org/query/ip/79.134.251.203

Daniel

On 11.07.19 14:25, Andreas Fink wrote:
> Except that this is not applicable. In my case my mailserver is not
> hosted at Swisscom but on my own infrastructure, is on the same IP since
> years, has proper MX records and reverse DNS entries and has delivered
> email to the same bluewin customer yesterday successfully. Only the
> reply on that receiver today which I received and replied again got
> rejected. And the response is cryptic to me.  
> 
> And if you mail to ab...@bluewin.ch  you get
> the same error...
> 
> So who is this famous DNSNULL I should contact?
> 
> 
> 
>> On 11 Jul 2019, at 13:49, Florin sfetea > > wrote:
>>
>> See 
>> https://community.swisscom.ch/t5/E-Mail/Bluewin-akzeptiert-E-Mails-von-eigener-Domain-nicht/td-p/570002
>>  
>>  
>> Beste Grüsse, Regards si s-auzim de bine 
>> Florin Sfetea
>>  
>> *From: *swinog-requ...@lists.swinog.ch
>> 
>> *Sent: *Thursday, July 11, 2019 12:00
>> *To: *swinog@lists.swinog.ch 
>> *Subject: *swinog Digest, Vol 174, Issue 3
>>  
>> Send swinog mailing list submissions to
>>   swinog@lists.swinog.ch 
>>  
>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
>>   http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
>>   swinog-requ...@lists.swinog.ch
>> 
>>  
>> You can reach the person managing the list at
>>   swinog-ow...@lists.swinog.ch 
>>  
>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
>> than "Re: Contents of swinog digest..."
>>  
>>  
>> Today's Topics:
>>  
>>    1. bluewin & DNSNULL (Andreas Fink)
>>  
>>  
>> --
>>  
>> Message: 1
>> Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2019 11:32:38 +0200
>> From: Andreas Fink mailto:af...@list.fink.org>>
>> To: "swi...@swinog.ch " > >
>> Subject: [swinog] bluewin & DNSNULL
>> Message-ID: <75da5d85-1a68-4d10-94b8-6237fd9d5...@list.fink.org
>> >
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>  
>>  
>> Does any one have a clue what DNSNULL means in the following context
>> of a mail delivery error?
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> <@bluewin.ch
>>  >
>> (mx-v02.bluewin.ch
>>  :
>> 554 mxbw.lb.bluewin.ch
>>  vim
>> dzmsp-mxin12.bluewin.ch
>>  
>> Swisscom AG IP: 79.134.251.203, You are not allowed 
>> to send us mail. Please see DNSNULL if you feel this is in
>> error)Reporting-MTA: dns; mail.fink.org
>>  
>> Arrival-Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2019 11:19:58 +0200
>> ...


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Re: [swinog] swinog Digest, Vol 174, Issue 3

[Andreas Fink]

Except that this is not applicable. In my case my mailserver is not hosted at 
Swisscom but on my own infrastructure, is on the same IP since years, has 
proper MX records and reverse DNS entries and has delivered email to the same 
bluewin customer yesterday successfully. Only the reply on that receiver today 
which I received and replied again got rejected. And the response is cryptic to 
me.  

And if you mail to ab...@bluewin.ch  you get the same 
error...

So who is this famous DNSNULL I should contact?



> On 11 Jul 2019, at 13:49, Florin sfetea  wrote:
> 
> See 
> https://community.swisscom.ch/t5/E-Mail/Bluewin-akzeptiert-E-Mails-von-eigener-Domain-nicht/td-p/570002
>  
> 
>  
>  
> Beste Grüsse, Regards si s-auzim de bine 
> Florin Sfetea
>  
> From: swinog-requ...@lists.swinog.ch 
> Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2019 12:00
> To: swinog@lists.swinog.ch 
> Subject: swinog Digest, Vol 174, Issue 3
>  
> Send swinog mailing list submissions to
>   swinog@lists.swinog.ch 
>  
> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
>   http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog 
> 
> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
>   swinog-requ...@lists.swinog.ch 
>  
> You can reach the person managing the list at
>   swinog-ow...@lists.swinog.ch 
>  
> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
> than "Re: Contents of swinog digest..."
>  
>  
> Today's Topics:
>  
>1. bluewin & DNSNULL (Andreas Fink)
>  
>  
> --
>  
> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2019 11:32:38 +0200
> From: Andreas Fink mailto:af...@list.fink.org>>
> To: "swi...@swinog.ch "  >
> Subject: [swinog] bluewin & DNSNULL
> Message-ID: <75da5d85-1a68-4d10-94b8-6237fd9d5...@list.fink.org 
> >
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>  
>  
> Does any one have a clue what DNSNULL means in the following context of a 
> mail delivery error?
>  
>  
>  
> <@bluewin.ch   >> (mx-v02.bluewin.ch 
>   >: 554 mxbw.lb.bluewin.ch 
>  > vim
> dzmsp-mxin12.bluewin.ch  
> > Swisscom 
> AG IP: 79.134.251.203, You are not allowed 
> to send us mail. Please see DNSNULL if you feel this is in 
> error)Reporting-MTA: dns; mail.fink.org  
> >
> Arrival-Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2019 11:19:58 +0200
> ...
>  
>  
>  
> Andreas Fink
> --
> Paradieshofstrasse 101, 4054 Basel, Switzerland
> andr...@fink.org   > https://www.fink.org  
> >
> Mobile: +41-78-6677333 Office: +41-61-330 Home: +41-61-345
> Skype: andreasfink   Jabber/XMPP: andr...@fink.org  
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Re: [swinog] swinog Digest, Vol 174, Issue 3

[Florin sfetea]

See 
https://community.swisscom.ch/t5/E-Mail/Bluewin-akzeptiert-E-Mails-von-eigener-Domain-nicht/td-p/570002


Beste Grüsse, Regards si s-auzim de bine 
Florin Sfetea

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Does any one have a clue what DNSNULL means in the following context of a mail 
delivery error?



 <@bluewin.ch > (mx-v02.bluewin.ch 
: 554 mxbw.lb.bluewin.ch 
 vim
dzmsp-mxin12.bluewin.ch  Swisscom AG IP: 
79.134.251.203, You are not allowed 
to send us mail. Please see DNSNULL if you feel this is in error)Reporting-MTA: 
dns; mail.fink.org 
Arrival-Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2019 11:19:58 +0200
...



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Re: [swinog] swinog Digest, Vol 174, Issue 3

[Florin sfetea]

See 
https://community.swisscom.ch/t5/E-Mail/Bluewin-akzeptiert-E-Mails-von-eigener-Domain-nicht/td-p/570002


Beste Grüsse, Regards si s-auzim de bine 
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Does any one have a clue what DNSNULL means in the following context of a mail 
delivery error?



 <@bluewin.ch > (mx-v02.bluewin.ch 
: 554 mxbw.lb.bluewin.ch 
 vim
dzmsp-mxin12.bluewin.ch  Swisscom AG IP: 
79.134.251.203, You are not allowed 
to send us mail. Please see DNSNULL if you feel this is in error)Reporting-MTA: 
dns; mail.fink.org 
Arrival-Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2019 11:19:58 +0200
...



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Re: [swinog] SwiNOG #34 – first videos published

[Steven Glogger]

Hi Venti

Thanks for your input.

> How about also releasing/uploading the videos to
> https://media.ccc.de/ ? DENOG and dozens of other conferences
> are there to be found.
> 
> I could make the necessary contacts for this, if you want.

Sounds very nice to us - but: we’re investing already a lot of time in managing 
and organizing SwiNOG events.
Now with the Videos we’re investing again several hours on top of this 
(cutting, adjusting tone, putting all together, upload, website, social media, 
etc.). 
If we add additional repositories that would mean that we have to manage more 
on top. 
And honestly we don’t have time for this :(
Remember: SwiNOG board is very small and has very limited resources and we’re 
spending pure private time for this. There is no compensation for us at all 
(except a yearly dinner).

Hope you understand our position.

greetings

-steven



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Re: [swinog] SwiNOG #34 – first videos published

[Martin Ebnoether]

On the Fri, Dec 14, 2018 at 01:29:50PM +0100, Steven Glogger blubbered:

Hoi Steven.

> As announced at SwiNOG #34 we we're recording the
> presentations and I'm glad to announce that first two Videos
> are published.
> 
> Link to the presentation & video:
> http://www.swinog.ch/meetings/swinog34/

Cool! 

> Youtube-Playlist for SwiNOG #34
> https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLMP2Spqss4Ipu2bEWyqnHPDziyK74uoi0
> 
> SwiNOG Channel:
> https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCNc3EckU23H4rXn_SdgpTUw
> 
> We release more videos in the next weeks.

How about also releasing/uploading the videos to
https://media.ccc.de/ ? DENOG and dozens of other conferences
are there to be found.

I could make the necessary contacts for this, if you want.

CU, Venty

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Re: [swinog] swinog Digest, Vol 167, Issue 1

[Martin Fischer]

with a code that is sent by an SMS to confirm identity before transaction 
becomes confirmed..

Fründlechi Grüess 
Martin 


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>   1. How do website operators get the mobile phone number of
>  visitors? (Benoit Panizzon)
> 
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2018 14:54:04 +0100
> From: Benoit Panizzon 
> To: swi...@swinog.ch
> Subject: [swinog] How do website operators get the mobile phone number
>ofvisitors?
> Message-ID: <20181206145404.74dca...@go.imp.ch>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
> 
> Hi List
> 
> I have read:
> 
> https://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2012/01/25/smartphone-website-telephone-number/
> 
> And I have sniffed the traffic between my swisscom mobile Samsung
> Mobile and my Website, but can't find any of the additional headers
> disclosing my phone number.
> 
> Is there a trick to make a mobile phone disclose it's phone number
> while connected via the mobile network's operator network?
> 
> How can 'website payment' operator like 'obligo' get the phone number
> associated with a visitor? Obligo states they got the phone number
> to bill 'from the service operator'.
> 
> Would it be possible, that a fraudster injects such headers from a
> client to make obligo bill the wrong number?
> 
> PS: I know obligo's reputation.
> 
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Re: [swinog] Swinog #34 Ride on 30th - Geneva and Lausanne

[Vincent Bernat]

Same train from Lausanne for me.
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 ――― Original Message ―――
 From: "lucas.dousse" 
 Sent: 29 octobre 2018 20:08 +0100
 Subject: Re: [swinog] Swinog #34 Ride on 30th - Geneva and Lausanne
 To: Will van Gulik; swi...@swinog.ch

> I will be taking the train at 07:20 from Lausanne, in 2nd class. Tell me 
> where you will be on the train.
> Cheers, Lucas 
>  Message d'origine De : Will van Gulik
>  Date : 29.10.18 19:47 (GMT+01:00) À :
> swi...@swinog.ch Objet : [swinog] Swinog #34 Ride on 30th - Geneva and
> Lausanne
> Hey Swinogers,
>
> FYI I will be taking the train at 6:42 from GVA, in 2nd class. If
> anyone wanna join me, I'll try to take some space for those stepping
> in in Lausanne.
>
> Cheers and see you all tomorrow ! :)
>
> Will
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Re: [swinog] Swinog #34 Ride on 30th - Geneva and Lausanne

[lucas.dousse]

I will be taking the train at 07:20 from Lausanne, in 2nd class. Tell me where 
you will be on the train.
Cheers, Lucas 
 Message d'origine De : Will van Gulik 
 Date : 29.10.18  19:47  (GMT+01:00) À : 
swi...@swinog.ch Objet : [swinog] Swinog #34 Ride on 30th - Geneva and Lausanne 
Hey Swinogers,

FYI I will be taking the train at 6:42 from GVA, in 2nd class. If anyone wanna 
join me, I'll try to take some space for those stepping in in Lausanne.

Cheers and see you all tomorrow ! :)

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Re: [swinog] swinog Digest, Vol 163, Issue 2 wifi on Battery

[Martin Fischer]

1.) Check with https://www.ict-plus.ch
They have a lot experiences with Long reach wifi... 
2.) why not just a standard USV? Solar or Wind buffered... or is a normal power 
supply only sometimes available?

Fründlechi Grüess 
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>   1. Battery powered wifi link (20km, multihop) (Nico Schottelius)
>   2. Re: Battery powered wifi link (20km, multihop) (Andreas Fink)
>   3. Re: Battery powered wifi link (20km, multihop) (Matthias Cramer)
>   4. Huge Packetloss towards switch mirrors? (Benoit Panizzon)
>   5. Re: Huge Packetloss towards switch mirrors? (Florian Bruhin)
>   6. Re: Huge Packetloss towards switch mirrors? (Benoit Panizzon)
> 
> 
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> 
> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2018 15:43:54 +0200
> From: Nico Schottelius 
> To: swinog 
> Subject: [swinog] Battery powered wifi link (20km, multihop)
> Message-ID: <87bmadj7mt@line.ungleich.ch>
> Content-Type: text/plain
> 
> 
> Hey Swinog,
> 
> does anyone have experiences with long distance (~20km) wifi powered
> by battery?
> 
> With have the situation that we basically want to connect Schwanden to
> Linthal by wifi for at least 12 hours.
> 
> The idea is to go via several hops, some of them not having any power
> resource.
> 
> So my questions to the list are:
> 
> - What kind of equipment have you used for similar cases or can you recommend?
> - Are there any battery recommendations?
> - Other creative ideas on how to get a direct link with >= 100 Mbit/s
>  connectivity?
> 
> Best,
> 
> Nico
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2018 15:58:41 +0200
> From: Andreas Fink 
> To: Nico Schottelius 
> Cc: swinog 
> Subject: Re: [swinog] Battery powered wifi link (20km, multihop)
> Message-ID: <1593479f-df99-4d13-ba96-2d14e7e29...@list.fink.org>
> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii
> 
> 
> 
>> On 8 Aug 2018, at 15:43, Nico Schottelius  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hey Swinog,
>> 
>> does anyone have experiences with long distance (~20km) wifi powered
>> by battery?
>> 
>> With have the situation that we basically want to connect Schwanden to
>> Linthal by wifi for at least 12 hours.
>> 
>> The idea is to go via several hops, some of them not having any power
>> resource.
>> 
>> So my questions to the list are:
>> 
>> - What kind of equipment have you used for similar cases or can you 
>> recommend?
>> - Are there any battery recommendations?
>> - Other creative ideas on how to get a direct link with >= 100 Mbit/s
>> connectivity?
>> 
> 
> 
> Given big enough dishes and line of sight, this is achieveable. We had 40km 
> links in rural areas of Iceland working. Its all a question of terrain, 
> interfearance and right equipment.
> As far as power goes, a solar system can help to keep it operational.
> 
>> Best,
>> 
>> Nico
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2018 16:33:52 +0200
> From: Matthias Cramer 
> To: 
> Subject: Re: [swinog] Battery powered wifi link (20km, multihop)
> Message-ID: 
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> 
> Hoi Nico
> 
> Mit einem P?rchen Antennen wie diesen an jedem Hop ist das sicher machbar.
> 
> https://mikrotik.com/product/RBLHG-5HPnD
> 
> Als Baterien kannst du z.B. 100AH Autobateriene einsetzen, damit bekommst du 
> ?ber 70h Betriebsdauer mit zwei Antennen...
> 
> Du musst jedoch daf?r sorgen das du zwischen den Antennen freie Sicht hast, 
> sonst wird das nicht wirklich funktionieren.
> 
> Wir haben vor vielen Jahren mal einen WiFi Link zwischen Otelfingen und 
> Regensdorf ohne zwischenhop gemacht (~8km), das hat
> mehrere Jahr stabil funktioniert. War jedoch anderes Equipment.
> 
> Gruss Matthias
> 
> 
>> On 08/08/18 15:43, Nico Schottelius wrote:
>> 
>> Hey Swinog,
>> 
>> does anyone have experiences with long distance (~20km) wifi powered
>> by battery?
>> 
>> With have the situation that we basically want to connect Schwanden to
>> Linthal by wifi for at least 12 hours.
>> 
>> The idea is to go 

Re: [swinog] ##### SwiNOG #32 - Agenda #####

[Simon Ryf]

Dear SwiNOGers

 

Final Agenda is online.

http://www.swinog.ch/meetings/swinog32/index.asp

 

(order can still change)

 

Please hurry up with your registration, we’ll close it this Friday 23:59.

After that, you’ll have to late reg with increased fee.

 

There are still slots for Speed Talks or a 30min talk. If you think you could 
last minute contribute, please let me know. Would be nice :-)

 

Tomorrow I will send you an update with a detailed Agenda including the 
abstracts.

 

Br

Simon

 

 

Important Dates for SwiNOG#31

03.11.2017 Registration closes (only late reg possible after that)

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Re: [swinog] ##### SwiNOG #32 - Call for Papers #####

[Steven Glogger]

If someone noticed:
Registration is open ,-)

Speakers please wait for registration, plz contact us - you’re getting a 
voucher.

greetings,

-steven

> Am 29.09.2017 um 12:19 schrieb Simon Ryf :
> 
> Dear SwiNOG supporter,
>  
> this is the official Call for Paper email. Please send your proposal to 
> swinog-core (at) swinog.ch  or directly to me.
> The 32nd meeting of the Swiss Network Operators Group (SwiNOG) will be held 
> in Berne on top of the Gurten on Thursday November 09 2017.
>  
> Important Dates for SwiNOG#31
> 29.09.2017 Call for Papers
> 03.10.2017 Registration opens
> 22.10.2017 Call for Papers closing
> 22.10.2017 Final publication of agenda
> 03.11.2017 Registration closes
> 05.11.2017 Deadline for all slides
> 09.11.2017 Meeting day
>  
>  
> Topics for Presentations/Talks
> The number and length of presentations per session is not fixed, although due 
> to time constraints we would prefer the length of the presentations to be 
> between 5 to 45 minutes.
> Here is a non-exhaustive list of typical SwiNOG meeting topics:
> - Security - DDOS Mitigation - AntiSpam
> - IPv6
> - Open Source tools
> - International view of the internet (incidents, outages, measurements)
> - Routing
> - Server applications (DNS, Web, etc.)
> - Legal issues (B‹PF, etc.)
> - Telecommunication politics (Net Neutrality, Incumbent monopoly, etc.)
>  
> -> PLEASE feel free to talk to us about any kind of topic and collaboration!!!
>You can always start a discussion on the list - I'm sure people join in.
>  
> Language of Slides and Talks
> The whole day will be held in English, therefore we kindly ask you to produce 
> your presentation in English.
>  
> Submission Guidelines
> All submissions must have a strong technical bias and must not be solely 
> promotional for your employer.
> Please remember that your presentations should be suitable for a target 
> audience of technicians from varied backgrounds, working for companies whose 
> sizes may vary considerably.
> To submit a proposal for a presentation, we request that you provide the 
> following information to http://swinog.ch/>>:
>  
> * the name of the presenter (and if applicable your affiliation)
> * a working email address
> * the name and number of the topic which will contain the presentation
> * the title of the presentation
> * its expected length (in minutes)
> * a short abstract of the presentation (so we know what it is about)
>  
> We also welcome suggestions for specific presentations which you feel would 
> be valuable to the SwiNOG community.
> Please be aware that your presentation will be published on the SwiNOG 
> website after the event. We can publish modified slides if requested - it 
> might be that some confidential data will be presented by you which are not 
> intended for publication on the internet.
>  
> Greetings,
> Simon Ryf
> SwiNOG Core Team
>  
>  
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> are concerned with engineering and operation of the Swiss Internet.
> SwiNOG exists to enhance the quality of Internet services available in 
> Switzerland. It does this by fostering the free exchange of technical ideas 
> and information between different companies and organisations.
> SwiNOG is a community for professionals who are operating, designing or 
> researching the Internet. It provides a technical forum where those working 
> on, with and for the Internet can come together to solve problems with every 
> aspect of their (net)work.
> The meeting is designed to provide an opportunity for the exchange of 
> information among network operators, engineers, researchers and other 
> professionals close to the network community.
>  
> More information about SwiNOG can be found at http://www.swinog.ch/ 
> , Facebook, Xing, 
> Information about the meeting will be published at 
> http://www.swinog.ch/meetings/swinog31/ 
> 
>  
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> 60 and further of the swiss civil law. It manages the SwiNOG community 
> ressources (domain, web, mailing-lists, etc..) and organises SwiNOG meetings.
>  
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Re: [swinog] Swinog-be?

[Aarno Aukia]

Hello SwiNOGers,

This is a reminder for tonights beer event, starting 18:30 at Restaurant
Vorbahnhof at the Zürich HB main station.

Cheers,
Aarno

On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 3:00 PM, Aarno Aukia  wrote:

> Dear SwiNOGers,
>
> After a "short break" lets meet for Swinog-BE 164 Beer & Food at Restaurant 
> Vorbahnhof on Monday September 11, 2017, starting at 18:30.
>
> Details for the next event:
> ---
> Event:Swinog-BE164 - Beer Event 164
>
> When? Monday, 11th September 2017 18:30
>
> Where?  Wirtschaft zum Vorbahnhof
>   Zollstrasse 2, 8005 Zurich
>   http://www.vorbahnhof.ch/speisen-und-getraenke/
>   (GoogleMaps Link: http://https://goo.gl/maps/V98Q5QbSciR2)
>
> Places avaiable? 10
>
>
>
> ---
>
> Registration:
>
> Start:Tuesday, 11th July 2017  - 15:50
> Stop: Monday, 11th September 2017  - 12:00
>
> Reg-URL: http://swinog.be/
>
> ---
>
> Since we have to make reservations, I need to know who's coming and who not.
> If you can't attend and you're registered please inform me ASAP (+41764000464 
> <+41%2076%20400%2004%2064>).
>
> greetings
>
> Aarno Aukia
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 7, 2017 at 10:07 AM, Aarno Aukia  wrote:
>
>> Excellent question ! Lets find a date: https://vshn.doodle.com/
>> poll/9bzsfukcqzfe795k
>>
>> -Aarno
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 10:26 AM, Viktor Steinmann 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Guys... is there any news on this topic?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Viktor
>>>
>>>
>>> On 23.05.2017 20:18, Steven Glogger wrote:
>>>
 Emanuel & Co.

 Is there still any beer event?

 gruss

 -steven


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Re: [swinog] Swinog-be?

[Aarno Aukia]

Dear SwiNOGers,

After a "short break" lets meet for Swinog-BE 164 Beer & Food at
Restaurant Vorbahnhof on Monday September 11, 2017, starting at 18:30.

Details for the next event:
---
Event:  Swinog-BE164 - Beer Event 164

When?   Monday, 11th September 2017 18:30

Where?Wirtschaft zum Vorbahnhof
Zollstrasse 2, 8005 Zurich
http://www.vorbahnhof.ch/speisen-und-getraenke/
(GoogleMaps Link: http://https://goo.gl/maps/V98Q5QbSciR2)

Places avaiable? 10



---

Registration:

Start:  Tuesday, 11th July 2017  - 15:50
Stop:   Monday, 11th September 2017  - 12:00

Reg-URL: http://swinog.be/

---

Since we have to make reservations, I need to know who's coming and who not.
If you can't attend and you're registered please inform me ASAP (+41764000464).

greetings

Aarno Aukia



On Fri, Jul 7, 2017 at 10:07 AM, Aarno Aukia  wrote:

> Excellent question ! Lets find a date: https://vshn.doodle.com/
> poll/9bzsfukcqzfe795k
>
> -Aarno
>
> On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 10:26 AM, Viktor Steinmann  wrote:
>
>> Guys... is there any news on this topic?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Viktor
>>
>>
>> On 23.05.2017 20:18, Steven Glogger wrote:
>>
>>> Emanuel & Co.
>>>
>>> Is there still any beer event?
>>>
>>> gruss
>>>
>>> -steven
>>>
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Re: [swinog] Swinog-be?

[Aarno Aukia]

Excellent question ! Lets find a date:
https://vshn.doodle.com/poll/9bzsfukcqzfe795k

-Aarno

On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 10:26 AM, Viktor Steinmann  wrote:

> Guys... is there any news on this topic?
>
> Regards,
> Viktor
>
>
> On 23.05.2017 20:18, Steven Glogger wrote:
>
>> Emanuel & Co.
>>
>> Is there still any beer event?
>>
>> gruss
>>
>> -steven
>>
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Re: [swinog] Swinog-be?

[Martin Ebnoether]

On the Thu, Jul 06, 2017 at 01:41:59PM +0200, Jeroen Massar blubbered:

Hallo.

> > Guys... is there any news on this topic?
> 
> But if you like beer... http://www.beerontuesday.ch/ ;)
> 
> Different place(s), different beers, minimally different people as they
> are more 'security' oriented, but same goals: better networking, good
> talk and... well beer and other drinks ;)

Beer is a great topic! I have an alternative as well:

http://www.fress-und-sauf-verein.ch/lugs/termine/

We usually have dinner in a Restaurant around the Roeschtibach
Hackerspace after the meeting. :)

CU, Venty

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denn sie wusste nicht recht, ob es sich für sie schicke zuerst
zu sprechen, „warum Ihre Katze so grinst?“ 
„Es ist eine Grinse-Katze,“ sagte die Herzogin, „darum!“    


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Re: [swinog] Swinog-be?

[Jeroen Massar]

On 2017-07-06 09:26, Viktor Steinmann wrote:
> Guys... is there any news on this topic?

Over the years the ML is slowly pacing down, likely having to do with
merging companies and people getting more busy with their private lives.

But if you like beer... http://www.beerontuesday.ch/ ;)

Different place(s), different beers, minimally different people as they
are more 'security' oriented, but same goals: better networking, good
talk and... well beer and other drinks ;)

Greets,
 Jeroen



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Re: [swinog] Swinog-be?

[Viktor Steinmann]

Guys... is there any news on this topic?

Regards,
Viktor

On 23.05.2017 20:18, Steven Glogger wrote:

Emanuel & Co.

Is there still any beer event?

gruss

-steven


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Re: [swinog] SwiNOG-BE163 - Beer Event 163 @ Don Weber Zurich, TUESDAY, 2017-01-31

[Emanuel Kleindienst]

And it's working again! Thanks Steve!
Pls. register here: http://swinog.be/

Looking forward seeing you!

Cheers,

Emanuel


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-Original Message-
From: Emanuel Kleindienst [mailto:emanuel.kleindie...@vshn.ch] 
Sent: Mittwoch, 25. Januar 2017 12:43
To: swinog@lists.swinog.ch
Cc: b...@flachmueller.ch
Subject: SwiNOG-BE163 - Beer Event 163 @ Don Weber Zurich, TUESDAY, 2017-01-31

Dear SwiNOGers,

Let's have some Beer & Food at Don Weber!

Upcoming events for rest of 2017:
We'll prep the complete agenda while sitting together next TUESDAY!


Looking forward seeing you!

Emanuel, Mobile +41 79 382 73 77, Email eman...@vshn.ch

Details for the next event:
---
Event:  SwiNOG-BE163 - Beer Event 163

When?   TUESDAY, 31th January 2017 18:30

Where?  Don Weber
Heinrichstrasse 213, 8005 Zürich
http://www.donweber.ch/
(GoogleMaps Link: http://goo.gl/maps/PqOPb)

Places available? 8

As Steve's mighty SwiNOG Beering registration tools seems to be broken / 
offline, pls. register by email to me!

Cheers,

Emanuel Kleindienst


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Re: [swinog] SwiNOG-BE162 - Beer Event 162 - Christmas Dinner @ Chässtube Rehalp / ZH, Monday, 2016-12-12

[Emanuel Kleindienst]

2 seats left, registration open 'till 6 p.m. tonight!
Girls warmly welcome!!! (as IPv6-Silvia seems to be the only women attending 
for now...)


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-Original Message-
From: Emanuel Kleindienst [mailto:emanuel.kleindie...@vshn.ch] 
Sent: Mittwoch, 26. Oktober 2016 10:27
To: swinog@lists.swinog.ch
Cc: b...@flachmueller.ch
Subject: SwiNOG-BE162 - Beer Event 162 - Christmas Dinner @ Chässtube Rehalp / 
ZH, Monday, 2016-12-12

Christmas Dinner

Dear SwiNOGers,

Let's have our Christmas Dinner with Cheese fondue, Kirsch and beer (if you 
like) at Rehalp!!!
Place limit 12 for now, may be extended to 15 max.

Upcoming events for 2017 will be announced shortly.

Looking forward seeing you!

Emanuel, Mobile +41 79 382 73 77, Email eman...@vshn.ch

Details for the next event:
---
Event:  SwiNOG-BE162 - Beer Event 162 - Christmas Dinner

When?   Monday, 12th December 2016 18:30

Where?  Chässtube Rehalp
Forchstrasse 359, 8008 Zürich, Tel. +41 44 381 01 80
http://www.chaesstube-rehalp.ch
(GoogleMaps Link: http://goo.gl/maps/ur3Lq)

Places avaiable? 12

!! Please sign up if you're really coming - because the seats are limited! !!


---

Registration:

Start:  Wednesday, 26th October 2016  - 10:00
Stop:   Friday, 9th December 2016  - 18:00

Reg-URL: http://swinog.be/

---

Since we have to make reservations, I need to know who's coming and who not.
If you can't attend and you're registered please inform me ASAP (+41 79 382 73 
77).

greetings

Emanuel Kleindienst



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Re: [swinog] SwiNOG-BE161 - Beer Event 161 @ Restaurant St. Gallerhof, Zurich central station, Monday, 2016-11-28

[Silvia Hagen]

Vor allem wenn es Fondue gibt - my two cents

:-)

Silvia

-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch [mailto:swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch] Im 
Auftrag von Klaus Ethgen
Gesendet: Freitag, 25. November 2016 17:06
An: swinog@lists.swinog.ch
Betreff: Re: [swinog] SwiNOG-BE161 - Beer Event 161 @ Restaurant St. Gallerhof, 
Zurich central station, Monday, 2016-11-28

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Ah, das klappt mir schon wieder nicht.

Würde euch schon gerne mal in live kennenlernen.

Mal sehen, ob es zum Weihnachtsdinner klappt. Essen ist eigentlich immer gut. 
;-)

Gruß
   Klaus
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Re: [swinog] SwiNOG-BE161 - Beer Event 161 @ Restaurant St. Gallerhof, Zurich central station, Monday, 2016-11-28

[Klaus Ethgen]

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Ah, das klappt mir schon wieder nicht.

Würde euch schon gerne mal in live kennenlernen.

Mal sehen, ob es zum Weihnachtsdinner klappt. Essen ist eigentlich immer
gut. ;-)

Gruß
   Klaus
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Re: [swinog] SwiNOG-BE161 - Beer Event 161 @ Restaurant St. Gallerhof, Zurich central station, Monday, 2016-11-28

[Emanuel Kleindienst]

And if things happen in a hurry, things WILL go wrong anyway. :D

Using the registration link below, you'll hit the registration for the 
Christmas Dinner and NOT the upcoming beering next Monday.
So, pls. register by email as Xaver, Candid and Ulf have already done.

Thanks and sorry again.

Have a great weekend,

Emanuel


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-Original Message-
From: Emanuel Kleindienst [mailto:emanuel.kleindie...@vshn.ch] 
Sent: Freitag, 25. November 2016 15:12
To: swinog@lists.swinog.ch
Cc: b...@flachmueller.ch
Subject: SwiNOG-BE161 - Beer Event 161 @ Restaurant St. Gallerhof, Zurich 
central station, Monday, 2016-11-28

Dear SwiNOGers,

Late invitation, I'm sorry... Busy times...

Let's have some Beer & Food at Restaurant St. Gallerhof!

Upcoming events for rest of 2016:
> SwiNOG-BE162: Mo, 12.12.16 (Christmas dinner)

Looking forward seeing you!

Emanuel, Mobile +41 79 382 73 77, Email eman...@vshn.ch

Details for the next event:
---
Event:  SwiNOG-BE161 - Beer Event 161

When?   Monday, 28th November 2016 18:30

Where?  Restaurant St. Gallerhof
Konradstrasse 2, 8005 Zürich, Tel. +41 44 271 52 60
http://www.st-gallerhof.ch/gallerhof-menu#opentab
(GoogleMaps Link: http://https://goo.gl/maps/woZhreAFm5x)

Places available? 8

!! Please sign up if you're really coming - because the seats are limited! !!

---

Registration:

Start:  Friday, 25th November 2016  - 15:00
Stop:   Monday, 28th November 2016  - 17:00

Reg-URL: http://swinog.be/

---

Since we have to make reservations, I need to know who's coming and who's not.
If you can't attend and you're registered please inform me ASAP (+41 79 382 73 
77).

Cheers,

Emanuel Kleindienst


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Re: [swinog] SwiNOG #30 - 4th November 2016 - (Calling for Papers)

[Roger]

But if we only have java developers here who usually encode a boolean 
into a UTF16 string into XML over SOAP over HTTP over a 10G fiber 
link, then it would be a waste of time of course.



you gona get hated by java  programmer,
but for me i could say only  FULL ACK! :D




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Re: [swinog] SwiNOG #30 - 4th November 2016 - (Calling for Papers)

[Andreas Fink]

> Am 14.09.2016 um 18:33 schrieb Jeroen Massar :
> 
> On 2016-09-14 18:13, Andreas Fink wrote:
>> I could do a presentation on the SCTP networking protocol which combines
>> some features of TCP and UDP and offers some unique features neither TCP
>> nor UDP have.
> 
> Is there any tool that actually uses SCTP ? :)

I'm using it day in day out since 15 years. And theres no alternative to it for 
me. The Sigtran family (SS7 signalling over IP) requires it mandatory. Theres 
no other option there. SCTP was mainly developed because signalling over IP 
needed reliable multipath support. So protocols which 100% depend on SCTP are 
at least M2UA, M2PA, M3UA, SUA, IUA.

> IPFIX is supposed to use it, but everybody still sends over UDP, rare
> support for SCTP (except for purists like me who did implement it and
> then also never really used it).

Great. why did you not use it? UDP is not a reliable datagram service. SCTP is.

> WebRTC is supposed to go partially over SCTP, never seen it actually used.

WebRTC requires it (but can work around by encapsulating it into UDP which just 
means more useless overhead).

> Apple chose to use Multipath TCP instead...

OS X has a implementation of SCTP since OS X  10.3.8. Its open source. Apple 
has not added it to the kernel (besides promising it many many many times) 
because it would mean changing their NAT & Firewall as well and as there is no 
user demand, they where too lazy and rather wanted to spend time on nice shiny 
guy stuff. The kext is kernel dependent due to a missing API to link in a 
layer4 protocol so every new version needs awaiting new kernel sources to be 
published and recompiling (10.12 however worked out of the box with 10.11 
sources). I have like 20 radars open with Apple about it (*big sight*).

Linux has SCTP built in since a long time. Solaris, has it. HP/UX has it. 
Windows I actually don't know.

Part of the problem is:  If desktops don't have it, then developers don't tend 
to use it. If developers don't want to use it, then the OS vendors dont tend to 
implement it.  This however also applies to other layer 4 transport protocol. 
Thats why everyone uses plain old TCP and UDP.

Also 10$ crap ADSL routers who don't understand how to properly implement NAT 
don't help either. Hopefully NAT will be a relict of the past soon due to IPv6 
(*cough cough*).

> The article on Wikipedia does not list much more:
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stream_Control_Transmission_Protocol
> 
> Apparently some variant of SSH should support it, but no actual
> implementations mentioned there either.

Any application which uses TCP or UDP could be changed into using SCTP by a 
single line of code. (hint: IPPROTO_SCTP on socket()) However there are 
additional features which neither TCP or UDP have such as seamless adding 
removing IP's on a established session, Multipath support. stream multiplexing, 
concurrent establishment of a connection from both sides (think of tunnels for 
example) and others. From a developers point of view there's a lot in it, 
especially if you care about reliability. SCTP is proven, reliable, established 
and well supported in the Unix arena. Developers just have to know about that 
its there and it is useful for many things.

That's why I think the key is to let developers know that there's a cherry to 
be picked up. 
And I would be happy to present its benefits and features.

But if we only have java developers here who usually encode a boolean into a 
UTF16 string into XML over SOAP over HTTP over a 10G fiber link, then it would 
be a waste of time of course.


Andreas Fink


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Re: [swinog] SwiNOG #30 - 4th November 2016 - (Calling for Papers)

[Jeroen Massar]

On 2016-09-14 18:13, Andreas Fink wrote:
> I could do a presentation on the SCTP networking protocol which combines
> some features of TCP and UDP and offers some unique features neither TCP
> nor UDP have.

Is there any tool that actually uses SCTP ? :)

IPFIX is supposed to use it, but everybody still sends over UDP, rare
support for SCTP (except for purists like me who did implement it and
then also never really used it).

WebRTC is supposed to go partially over SCTP, never seen it actually used.

Apple chose to use Multipath TCP instead...

The article on Wikipedia does not list much more:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stream_Control_Transmission_Protocol

Apparently some variant of SSH should support it, but no actual
implementations mentioned there either.

Greets,
 Jeroen



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Re: [swinog] SwiNOG #30 - 4th November 2016 - (Calling for Papers)

[Andreas Fink]

I could do a presentation on the SCTP networking protocol which combines some 
features of TCP and UDP and offers some unique features neither TCP nor UDP 
have.


> Am 14.09.2016 um 18:02 schrieb Simon Ryf :
> 
> Dear SwiNOG supporter,
> 
> this is the official Call for Paper email. Please send your proposal to
> swinog-core (at) swinog.ch or directly to me.
> The 30th meeting of the Swiss Network Operators Group (SwiNOG) will be held
> in Berne on top of the Gurten on November 4th 2016.
> 
> 
> Important Dates for SwiNOG#30
> ---
> 17.08.2016 Announcement of Meeting
> 05.09.2016 Registration opens
> 14.09.2016 Call for Papers
> 16.10.2016 Call for Papers closing
> 23.10.2016 Final publication of agenda
> 27.10.2016 Registration closes
> 01.11.2016 Deadline for all slides
> 04.11.2016 Meeting day
> 
> 
> Topics for Presentations/Talks
> ---
> The number and length of presentations per session is not fixed, although
> due to time constraints we would prefer the length of the presentations to
> be between 5 to 45 minutes.
> Here is a non-exhaustive list of typical SwiNOG meeting topics:
> - Security - DDOS Mitigation - AntiSpam
> - IPv6
> - Open Source tools
> - International view of the internet (incidents, outages, measurements)
> - Routing
> - Server applications (DNS, Web, etc.)
> - Legal issues (BÜPF, etc.)
> - Telecommunication politics (Net Neutrality, Incumbent monopoly, etc.)
> 
> -> PLEASE feel free to talk to us about any kind of topic and
> collaboration!!!
>   You can always start a discussion on the list - I'm sure people join in.
> 
> Language of Slides and Talks
> ---
> The whole day will be held in English, therefore we kindly ask you to
> produce your presentation in English.
> 
> Submission Guidelines
> ---
> All submissions must have a strong technical bias and must not be solely
> promotional for your employer.
> Please remember that your presentations should be suitable for a target
> audience of technicians from varied backgrounds, working for companies whose
> sizes may vary considerably.
> To submit a proposal for a presentation, we request that you provide the
> following information to :
> 
> * the name of the presenter (and if applicable your affiliation)
> * a working email address
> * the name and number of the topic which will contain the presentation
> * the title of the presentation
> * its expected length (in minutes)
> * a short abstract of the presentation (so we know what it is about)
> 
> We also welcome suggestions for specific presentations which you feel would
> be valuable to the SwiNOG community.
> Please be aware that your presentation will be published on the SwiNOG
> website after the event. We can publish modified slides if requested - it
> might be that some confidential data will be presented by you which are not
> intended for publication on the internet.
> 
> Greetings,
> Simon Ryf
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> 
> 
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> who are concerned with engineering and operation of the Swiss Internet.
> SwiNOG exists to enhance the quality of Internet services available in
> Switzerland. It does this by fostering the free exchange of technical ideas
> and information between different companies and organisations.
> SwiNOG is a community for professionals who are operating, designing or
> researching the Internet. It provides a technical forum where those working
> on, with and for the Internet can come together to solve problems with every
> aspect of their (net)work.
> The meeting is designed to provide an opportunity for the exchange of
> information among network operators, engineers, researchers and other
> professionals close to the network community.
> 
> More information about SwiNOG can be found at http://www.swinog.ch/,
> Facebook, Xing, 
> Information about the meeting will be published at
> http://www.swinog.ch/meetings/swinog30/ 
> 
> General Information (SwiNOG Organisation)
> ---
> The SwiNOG Organisation Association is a non-profit association under
> article 60 and further of the swiss civil law. It manages the SwiNOG
> community ressources (domain, web, mailing-lists, etc..) and organises
> SwiNOG meetings.
> 
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> Switzerland
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Re: [swinog] SwiNOG-BE155 - Beer Event 157 @ Bauschaenzli Biergarten / ZH, Monday, 2016-07-25

[Emanuel Kleindienst]

New location:
http://bit.ly/29ZtGXj

St. Gallerhof
Konradstrasse 2
8005 Zürich
www.st-gallerhof.ch
Phone +41 44 271 52 60

Reservations from 18:30 for Emanuel / SwiNOG.


-Original Message-
From: Emanuel Kleindienst [mailto:emanuel.kleindie...@vshn.ch] 
Sent: Montag, 25. Juli 2016 16:18
To: swinog@lists.swinog.ch
Cc: b...@flachmueller.ch
Subject: RE: SwiNOG-BE155 - Beer Event 157 @ Bauschaenzli Biergarten / ZH, 
Monday, 2016-07-25
Importance: High

Hi all,

Location has just been cancelled due to weather conditions... Quite short 
notice, don't like that...
I'm currently working on alternative and will keep you posted.

Sorry,

Emanuel


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Talk to me! https://doodle.com/VSHNemanuel


-Original Message-
From: Emanuel Kleindienst [mailto:emanuel.kleindie...@vshn.ch] 
Sent: Freitag, 22. Juli 2016 14:35
To: swinog@lists.swinog.ch
Cc: swi...@flachmueller.ch
Subject: SwiNOG-BE155 - Beer Event 157 @ Bauschaenzli Biergarten / ZH, Monday, 
2016-07-25

Dear SwiNOGers,

Let's have some Beer & Food at Bauschaenzli Biergarten, a new location again!

Upcoming events for rest of 2016:
> SwiNOG-BE158: Mo, 29.8.16
> SwiNOG-BE159: Mo, 26.9.16
> SwiNOG-BE160: Mo, 24.10.16
> SwiNOG-BE161: Mo, 28.11.16
> SwiNOG-BE162: Mo, 12.12.16 (Christmas dinner)

Looking forward seeing you!

Emanuel, Mobile +41 79 382 73 77, Email eman...@vshn.ch

Details for the next event:
---
Event:  SwiNOG-BE157 - Beer Event 157

When?   Monday, 25th July 2016 18:30

Where?  Bauschaenzli Biergarten
Stadthausquai 2, 8001 Zurich
http://www.bauschaenzli.ch
(GoogleMaps Link: https://goo.gl/maps/JrjdnBymFXD2)

Places available? 10

!! Please sign up if you're really coming - because the seats are limited! !!


---

Registration:

Start:  Friday, 22nd July 2016  - 14:25
Stop:   Monday, 25th July 2016  - 17:00

Reg-URL: http://swinog.be/

---

Since we have to make reservations, I need to know who's coming and who not.
If you can't attend and you're registered please inform me ASAP (+41 79 382 73 
77).

greetings

Emanuel Kleindienst



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Re: [swinog] SwiNOG-BE155 - Beer Event 157 @ Bauschaenzli Biergarten / ZH, Monday, 2016-07-25

[Emanuel Kleindienst]

Hi all,

Location has just been cancelled due to weather conditions... Quite short 
notice, don't like that...
I'm currently working on alternative and will keep you posted.

Sorry,

Emanuel


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CCO

VSHN AG | Neugasse 10 | CH-8005 Zürich
T: +41 44 545 53 00 | M: +41 79 382 73 77 | https://vshn.ch
Talk to me! https://doodle.com/VSHNemanuel


-Original Message-
From: Emanuel Kleindienst [mailto:emanuel.kleindie...@vshn.ch] 
Sent: Freitag, 22. Juli 2016 14:35
To: swinog@lists.swinog.ch
Cc: swi...@flachmueller.ch
Subject: SwiNOG-BE155 - Beer Event 157 @ Bauschaenzli Biergarten / ZH, Monday, 
2016-07-25

Dear SwiNOGers,

Let's have some Beer & Food at Bauschaenzli Biergarten, a new location again!

Upcoming events for rest of 2016:
> SwiNOG-BE158: Mo, 29.8.16
> SwiNOG-BE159: Mo, 26.9.16
> SwiNOG-BE160: Mo, 24.10.16
> SwiNOG-BE161: Mo, 28.11.16
> SwiNOG-BE162: Mo, 12.12.16 (Christmas dinner)

Looking forward seeing you!

Emanuel, Mobile +41 79 382 73 77, Email eman...@vshn.ch

Details for the next event:
---
Event:  SwiNOG-BE157 - Beer Event 157

When?   Monday, 25th July 2016 18:30

Where?  Bauschaenzli Biergarten
Stadthausquai 2, 8001 Zurich
http://www.bauschaenzli.ch
(GoogleMaps Link: https://goo.gl/maps/JrjdnBymFXD2)

Places available? 10

!! Please sign up if you're really coming - because the seats are limited! !!


---

Registration:

Start:  Friday, 22nd July 2016  - 14:25
Stop:   Monday, 25th July 2016  - 17:00

Reg-URL: http://swinog.be/

---

Since we have to make reservations, I need to know who's coming and who not.
If you can't attend and you're registered please inform me ASAP (+41 79 382 73 
77).

greetings

Emanuel Kleindienst



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Re: [swinog] SwiNOG-BE155 - Beer Event 155 @ Papa Joe's / ZH, Monday, 2016-05-23

[Emanuel Kleindienst]

Only 3 attendees?
Anybody else wants to join?

Pls. register here: http://swinog.be/

Looking forward seeing you!

Cheers,

Emanuel


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CCO

VSHN AG | Neugasse 10 | CH-8005 Zürich
T: +41 44 545 53 00 | M: +41 79 382 73 77 | https://vshn.ch
Talk to me! https://doodle.com/VSHNemanuel


-Original Message-
From: Emanuel Kleindienst [mailto:emanuel.kleindie...@vshn.ch] 
Sent: Mittwoch, 18. Mai 2016 14:50
To: swinog@lists.swinog.ch
Cc: swi...@flachmueller.ch
Subject: SwiNOG-BE155 - Beer Event 155 @ Papa Joe's / ZH, Monday, 2016-05-23

SwiNOG-BE155 - Beer Event 155 @ Papa Joes / ZH

Dear SwiNOGers,

Let's have some Beer & Food at Papa Joe's, a new location again!

Upcoming events for rest of 2016:
> SwiNOG-BE156: Mo, 27.6.16
> SwiNOG-BE157: Mo, 25.7.16 (summer vacations...)
> SwiNOG-BE158: Mo, 29.8.16
> SwiNOG-BE159: Mo, 26.9.16
> SwiNOG-BE160: Mo, 24.10.16
> SwiNOG-BE161: Mo, 28.11.16
> SwiNOG-BE162: Mo, 12.12.16 (Christmas dinner)

Looking forward seeing you!

Emanuel, Mobile +41 79 382 73 77, Email eman...@vshn.ch

Details for this event:
---
Event:  SwiNOG-BE155 - Beer Event 155

When?   Monday, 23rd May 2016 18:30

Where?  Papa Joes
Schifflaende 18, 8001 Zurich,
http://www.papajoes.ch/en/Food/
(GoogleMaps Link: http://goo.gl/maps/EBkrpnBHnp62)

Places avaiable? 12

!! Please sign up if you're really coming - because the seats are limited! !!


---

Registration:

Start:  Wednesday, 18th May 2016  - 14:45
Stop:   Monday, 23rd May 2016  - 16:00

Reg-URL: http://swinog.be/

---

Since we have to make reservations, I need to know who's coming and who not.
If you can't attend and you're registered please inform me ASAP (+41 79 382 73 
77).

greetings

Emanuel Kleindienst



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Re: [swinog] [swinog-core] register link for swinog28?

[Steven Glogger]

Hi Eric

Deadline for registration was until midnight. Ove extended it by 2 more days.

greetings

-steven

 Am 01.05.2015 um 08:08 schrieb Eric Laporte e...@dfi.ch:
 
 
 Hi guys,
 
 It seems the register link is gone.
 Can you manually register me?
 
 Thanks,
 Eric
 
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Re: [swinog] swinog Digest, Vol 120, Issue 8

[Martin Fischer]

Why not migration to

Switchplus.ch - it is a branch of switch..

You will find all other swiss registrars on

https://www.nic.ch/reg/en/cm/registrar-list

Fründlechi Grüess Martin Fischer 

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Re: [swinog] SwiNOG #27

[Tobias Brunner]

Hi SwiNOG organisation team,

I second that! Thanks a lot, it was a nice day...

Cheers,
Tobias

Am 23.10.2014 12:52, schrieb robert.guentensper...@swisscom.com:

Dear organisation-team

Thank's a lot for organising Yesterday's meeting!

It's been very interesting and a pleasure as usual.

Cheers,

Günti



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Re: [swinog] SwiNOG-27 (22th october 2014) (Ripe Atlas Probe)

[Will van Gulik]

Hi Swinogers,

Be aware that I'll have some Ripe Atlas Probes ( https://atlas.ripe.net/
) with me. I'd be glad to give some to the ASN that don't have one on
their network yet.

I'll be easy to find, I speak French and I peer much.

Cheers !

Will van Gulik
Ripe Atlas Ambassador
IP-Max SA - AS25091

On 10/2/14 9:39 AM, Roman Hochuli wrote:
 Dear all

 We posted the agenda of the upcoming SwiNOG-27 on the website. Have a
 look here: http://www.swinog.ch/meetings/swinog27/agenda.asp

 You can still register for SwiNOG-27! Details are available her:

 -- http://www.swinog.ch/meetings/swinog27/index.asp --

 See you all in Bern.




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Re: [swinog] swinog Digest, Vol 115, Issue 4

[berquet matthieu]

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Re: [swinog] swinog Digest, Vol 115, Issue 3

[Fredy Kuenzler]

Am 09.08.2014 12:20, schrieb Florian Bruhin:
 * berquet matthieu berq...@essec.fr [2014-08-09 12:01:18 +0200]:
 *
 Compte de messagerie inexistant.
 *
 
 Since this seems to be an automated message: Could someone please 
 remove that address from the list or take some other appropriate 
 action?

User has been set to moderated.

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Re: [swinog] swinog Digest, Vol 115, Issue 3

[berquet matthieu]

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Re: [swinog] swinog Digest, Vol 115, Issue 3

[Florian Bruhin]

* berquet matthieu berq...@essec.fr [2014-08-09 12:01:18 +0200]:
 *
 Compte de messagerie inexistant.
 *

Since this seems to be an automated message: Could someone please
remove that address from the list or take some other appropriate
action?

Thanks!

Florian

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Re: [swinog] swinog Digest, Vol 115, Issue 2

[berquet matthieu]

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Re: [swinog] [swinog-core] Termin SwiNOG-27

[Michel Renfer]

Hallo Zusammen

Sofern die Sponsoringseite gelöst werden kann, gehen wir nun final für 
Mi, 27.8.? Habt Ihr neben Switch, Cisco und Level3 noch andere 
Vorschläge für Sponsoren?


gruss
michel



On 30.04.2014 09:03, swi...@swinog.ch wrote:

Hallo Zusammen


@Roman: Könntest Du die Gurten Verfügbarkeit für die folgenden Daten
prüfen?

KW35Di, 26.8.
 Mi, 27.8.
 Do, 28.8.

KW36Di, 2.9.

Präferenz wäre KW35, damit Steven ohne Stress teilnehmen kann.


Ich habe (endlich!) Zeit gefunden kurz mit der Verantwortlichen vom
Gurten zu telefonieren.

Der 28.8. ist bereits besetzt. Ich habe nun den 27.8. mal provisorisch
reserviert für uns.

Der Disclaimer ist jedoch, dass bis spätestens 19:30 der Apero fertig
sein muss. Auf dem Gurten findet durch den Sommer ein Freilicht Theater
Spektakel statt weshalb, verständlicherweise, kein störender Lärm von
Veranstaltungen rundherum gemacht werden darf. Ich denke aber, dass es
kein Problem sein sollte, wenn der Apero mal ein paar Minuten kürzer ist.





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Re: [swinog] swinog Digest, Vol 112, Issue 12

[Martin Fischer]

Fortigate: not all ports are accelleratable... What HW type? What port? FGT-OS?

FW-Rules needs to be defined for accelleration desired traffic

Fründlechi Grüess Martin Fischer 


 Am 28.05.2014 um 12:00 schrieb swinog-requ...@lists.swinog.ch:
 
 Send swinog mailing list submissions to
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 Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 14:05:57 +0200
 From: Radek Mrskos mrs...@volume.ch
 To: swinog@lists.swinog.ch
 Subject: [swinog] WAN Acceleration mit Citrix CloudBridge ?ber
FortiGate
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 Hi
 
 Does someone have experience with configuring WCCP on a FortiGate firewall to 
 enable WAN acceleration with CloudBridge?
 The Config on the Citrix CloudBridge is simple, the config on the FortiGate 
 is not so clear.
 
 Thx a lot!
 
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Re: [swinog] Swinog BE132 ZRH

[Martin Ebnoether]

On the Tue, May 06, 2014 at 03:18:37PM -0700, Stanislav Sinyagin blubbered:

Hoi Stan.

 [yahoo mail composer sucks]

[Mutt via SSH FTW!]

 Debian Treff: I thought you just put the image onto a flash
 and boot from it, what else is there to discuss?

True, but before this can happen, someone has to develope it
first. And that can lead to long and extensive discussions which
is best done with a beer and some good food. =:o)

But of course also mere user (like me) are welcome to the Debian
Treff. Meetings are usually on the first tuesday in a month in
the Restaurant St. Gallerhof near Zuerich HB, Tramhaltestelle
Sihlquai.

https://www.lugs.ch/lugs/termine/

CU, Venty

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Re: [swinog] Swinog BE132 ZRH

[Peter Keel]

* on the Mon, May 05, 2014 at 05:34:55PM +0200, Roger Buchwalder wrote:
 Since nobody will come to the Swinog BE, I will cancel the event. :(

Usually, I would have come, but I was rather tired from the week-end ;)

Cheers
Seegras
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Re: [swinog] Swinog BE132 ZRH

[Martin Ebnoether]

On the Tue, May 06, 2014 at 09:40:07AM +0200, Peter Keel blubbered:
  Since nobody will come to the Swinog BE, I will cancel the event. :(
 
 Usually, I would have come, but I was rather tired from the week-end ;)

This usually clashes with the LUGS Winterthur meeting, plus
there is the Debian Treff right the next day. 

Aaaand then there was the General Meeting of the CCC-ZH
yesterday. 

I think you get the idea. Too much stuff going on. =:o) 
Tummerleid.

CU, Venty

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Re: [swinog] Swinog BE132 ZRH

[Stanislav Sinyagin]

[yahoo mail composer sucks]

Debian Treff: I thought you just put the image onto a flash and boot from it, 
what else is there to discuss?




- Original Message -
From: Martin Ebnoether ventila...@semmel.ch
To: Peter Keel seeg...@discordia.ch
Cc: swi...@swinog.ch swi...@swinog.ch
Sent: Tuesday, May 6, 2014 10:10 AM
Subject: Re: [swinog] Swinog BE132 ZRH

On the Tue, May 06, 2014 at 09:40:07AM +0200, Peter Keel blubbered:
  Since nobody will come to the Swinog BE, I will cancel the event. :(
 
 Usually, I would have come, but I was rather tired from the week-end ;)

This usually clashes with the LUGS Winterthur meeting, plus
there is the Debian Treff right the next day. 


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Re: [swinog] Swinog BE132 ZRH

[Roger Buchwalder]

Hello all

Since nobody will come to the Swinog BE, I will cancel the event. :(

Thanks

rog

 Am 02.05.2014 um 19:39 schrieb Roger Buchwalder ro...@buchwalder.com:
 
 SwiNOG-BE132 - Beer Event 132 @ Outback Lodge / ZH
 
 Dear SwiNOGers,
 
 Lets have fun!
 
 Details for the next event:
 ---
 Event:SwiNOG-BE132 - Beer Event 132
 
 When?Monday, 5th May 2014 18:30
 
 Where?Outback Lodge
Stadelhoferstrasse 18, 8001 Zürich
 
http://www.outback-lodge.ch/outback-lodge-z%C3%BCrich.html
(GoogleMaps Link:http://goo.gl/maps/fGTpM)
 
 
 
 !! Please sign up if you're really coming - because the seats are limited! !!
 
 
 ---
 
 Registration:
 
 Start:Friday, 2nd May 2014  - 19:25
 Stop:Monday, 5th May 2014  - 17:00
 
 Reg-URL: http://swinog.be/
 
 ---
 
 Since we have to make reservations, I need to know who's coming and who not.
 If you can't attend and you're registered please inform me ASAP (+41 79 277 
 92 35).
 
 greetings
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Re: [swinog] Swinog BE132 ZRH

[Fredy Kuenzler]

Am 05.05.2014 17:34, schrieb Roger Buchwalder:
 Since nobody will come to the Swinog BE, I will cancel the event. :(

Is SwiNOG dead yet?!

-- 
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Init7 (Switzerland) Ltd.
AS13030
St. Georgen-Strasse 70
CH-8400 Winterthur
Skype:   flyingpotato
Phone:   +41 44 315 4400
Fax: +41 44 315 4401
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Re: [swinog] Swinog BE132 ZRH

[Philippe Huber]

I hope NOT! 
:)

 Am 05.05.2014 um 17:51 schrieb Fredy Kuenzler kuenz...@init7.net:
 
 Am 05.05.2014 17:34, schrieb Roger Buchwalder:
 Since nobody will come to the Swinog BE, I will cancel the event. :(
 
 Is SwiNOG dead yet?!
 
 -- 
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 Init7 (Switzerland) Ltd.
 AS13030
 St. Georgen-Strasse 70
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Re: [swinog] SwiNOG #27 - Call for Papers

[Fredy Kuenzler]

Steven, all,

Am 31.01.2014 22:57, schrieb Steven Glogger:
 The 27th meeting of the Swiss Network Operators Group (SwiNOG) will
 be held in Berne on top of the Gurten on April 9th 2014.

This is the week of GPF9... I guess some folks will be in Whistler, BC.

-- 
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Re: [swinog] swinog Digest, Vol 107, Issue 2

[Martin Fischer]

ODTR: allready tried to cross the fibres on one side...?

Fründlechi Grüess Martin Fischer (unterwegs)


Am 04.12.2013 um 12:00 schrieb swinog-requ...@lists.swinog.ch:

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   1. Anyone round Zurich with an OTDR and a little bit of time?
  (Andre Timmermann)
   2. Re: Anyone round Zurich with an OTDR and a little bit of
  time? (Roman Hochuli)
   3. Re: Anyone round Zurich with an OTDR and a little bit of
  time? (Fredy Kuenzler)
   4. Peering swisscominit7 (Martin Fischer)
 
 
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 Message: 1
 Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2013 13:53:22 +0100
 From: Andre Timmermann andre.timmerm...@darkt.im
 To: swi...@swinog.ch
 Subject: [swinog] Anyone round Zurich with an OTDR and a little bit of
time?
 Message-ID: 1386075202.3720.24.camel@andre-ThinkPad-X1-Carbon
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
 
 Hi List
 
 I'm trying to debug a fiber connection between two datacenters in
 Zurich. Unfortunately the other companies involved are not very
 responsive. And please bear with me, I am not a network engineer, I am
 just the poor guy who got this thingie on his desk...
 
 Here is what I am trying to achieve:
 
 In each datacenter we got an Arista DCS-7050T-52 with each an SFP
 1000BASE-LX which supports up to 10km links on single-mode and 550m on
 multi-mode fiber.
 
 We got a 1Gbps dedicated Layer2 Connection incl. Managed Switch from
 Init7. As far as I know, they are using Sunrise as partner to provide
 the connection. We are connecting to a SMF with 1310nm.
 
 If I put everything together, I still see a notconnect on the
 switchport. 
 Unfortunately the Platin support seems to be more like Bronze, we do
 not get a proper response right now.
 
 Currently I can't tell if there is something wrong within our setup or
 within the setup of our provider.
 
 I would like to get a third party with a proper testing device (and more
 experience than me) to meet me in the datacenter(s) and help me to find
 evidence what the heck is going on.
 
 Best regards,
 Andre Timmermann
 
 -- 
 local.ch AG
 Konradstrasse 12/14
 CH-8005 Z?rich
 
 
 
 
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 Message: 2
 Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2013 15:03:24 +0100
 From: Roman Hochuli roman.hoch...@nexellent.ch
 To: Andre Timmermann andre.timmerm...@darkt.im
 Cc: swi...@swinog.ch swi...@swinog.ch
 Subject: Re: [swinog] Anyone round Zurich with an OTDR and a little
bit of time?
 Message-ID: 529de4ac.5030...@nexellent.ch
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
 
 Hello Andr?
 
 I'm trying to debug a fiber connection between two datacenters in
 Zurich.
 
 We got a 1Gbps dedicated Layer2 Connection incl. Managed Switch from
 Init7.
 
 As a first step you probably want to fact check if you have a
 darkfibre, which might be measured with a power meter and/or OTDR, or
 if you have a layer-2 service as you worte above.
 
 A layer-2 service means there is some active gear (usually from your
 service provider) in between you and the physical fibre between the
 datacenters which they manage and therefore you can not optically
 measure the line as a whole.
 
 If I put everything together, I still see a notconnect on the
 switchport.
 
 As a simple test: see if you see have no light (down/down) at both ends
 of your connection. My guess: it's only at one end and you most probably
 deal with a defective optic (GBIC/SFP) at some point...
 
 Bottom line: most probably you will have to deal with your service
 provider.
 
 Good luck.
 
 -- 
 Best regards,
 Roman Hochuli
 Operations Manager
 
 nexellent ag
 Saegereistrasse 33
 CH-8152 Glattbrugg
 
 Phone:   +41 44 872 20 00
 Fax: +41 44 872 20 01
 URL: www.nexellent.ch
 X-NCC-RegID: ch.nexellent
 
 Imagination is the one weapon in the war
 against reality.
-- Jules de Gaultier
 
 
 
 
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 Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2013 15:13:20 +0100
 From: Fredy Kuenzler kuenz...@init7.net
 To: Andre Timmermann andre.timmerm...@darkt.im, swi...@swinog.ch
 Subject: Re: [swinog] Anyone round Zurich with an OTDR and a little
bit of time?
 Message-ID: 529de700.7070...@init7.net
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
 
 Andr?,
 
 We are investigating what went wrong. As far as I know this is a special
 case and we are reselling a simple darkfiber of Sunrise (very uncommon),
 and it seems that a ticket has been opened with Sunrise a while ago. As
 it's a Layer-1 service we are unable to check the functionality.

Re: [swinog] swinog Digest, Vol 106, Issue 4

[Martin Fischer]

About the mail server problem...

What is the problem with your macs?

Is it the internal or external mailserver? Smtp? Exchg?

Whats about MX- and SPF-records?

Fründlechi Grüess Martin Fischer (unterwegs)


Am 27.11.2013 um 22:56 schrieb swinog-requ...@lists.swinog.ch:

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   1. Mailserver migration problems with Apple devices (Michael Richter)
   2. Re: Mailserver migration problems with Apple devices (Xaver Aerni)
   3. Re: Mailserver migration problems with Apple devices
  (n...@barge.ch)
   4. swinog.ch and SwiNOG meeting (Tobias Brunner)
   5. Re: swinog.ch and SwiNOG meeting (Mehmet Akcin)
 
 
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 Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2013 13:04:44 +
 From: Michael Richter mrich...@sasag.ch
 To: swinog@lists.swinog.ch swinog@lists.swinog.ch
 Subject: [swinog] Mailserver migration problems with Apple devices
 Message-ID:
6A1B0F2AE603944A84F7F99010C3036974CA9847@VS-W08-KEWV-EXC.sasag.intra
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
 
 Hi there
 
 does anybody have experience with mailserver migration and apple clients.
 We have no changed the ip address of our mailserver - we have changed the A 
 Record from mail.xy.ch to a new IP.
 Since then we've a lot of calls from clients which are unable to receive 
 mails.
 
 On the iPhones, the authentication option has gone!!. When the customer set 
 its back to password it's working again.
 But I had also some OS X Mail which had the right settings, but didn't work. 
 I had to configure the account from scratch.
 
 So it's defnitely an Apple Problem.
 
 Does anybody now why this is not working or why the settings are changed from 
 the device itselfs?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Freundliche Gr?sse
 
 sasag Kabelkommunikation AG
 Michael Richter
 Professional Bachelor ODEC in Engineering
 mrich...@sasag.ch
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 From: Xaver Aerni xae...@pop.ch
 To: Michael Richter mrich...@sasag.ch
 Cc: swi...@swinog.ch
 Subject: Re: [swinog] Mailserver migration problems with Apple devices
 Message-ID: ee7dd0ccafc742c09b9f757bee743...@telezueri.ch
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
 
 Hello, 
 I think it is an IOS Problem
 
 Your costumer must delete the Account on the I Phone or Pad...
 After they must make a new one... Then it schould work...
 We have had the same Problem with the IOS...
 I think in the Settings will be more saved as you want :-C
 
 Greetings Xaver
 
  - Original Message - 
  From: Michael Richter 
  To: swinog@lists.swinog.ch 
  Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2013 2:04 PM
  Subject: [swinog] Mailserver migration problems with Apple devices
 
 
  Hi there
 
  does anybody have experience with mailserver migration and apple clients.
  We have no changed the ip address of our mailserver - we have changed the A 
 Record from mail.xy.ch to a new IP.
  Since then we've a lot of calls from clients which are unable to receive 
 mails.
 
  On the iPhones, the authentication option has gone!!. When the customer set 
 its back to password it's working again.
  But I had also some OS X Mail which had the right settings, but didn't work. 
 I had to configure the account from scratch.
 
  So it's defnitely an Apple Problem.
 
  Does anybody now why this is not working or why the settings are changed 
 from the device itselfs?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  Freundliche Gr?sse
 
  sasag Kabelkommunikation AG
  Michael Richter
  Professional Bachelor ODEC in Engineering 
  mrich...@sasag.ch
  052 633 01 71
 
 
 
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Re: [swinog] SwiNOG-BE124 - Beer Event 124 @ Pumpstation / ZH

[Silvia Hagen]

Hoi Steven

Wow, bei dem Wetter! und wir haben Council Meeting am Abend :-(

nach acht seid Ihr wohl nicht mehr da, oder?

Grüessli
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Our website is dual-stack and can be accessed with IPv4 and IPv6 Steven Gloggerste...@swinog.org 30.08.2013 15:56 Dear SwiNOGers,Enjoy the Sun, the Beer and the Lake.Details for the next event:---Event:SwiNOG-BE124 - Beer Event 124When?Monday, 2nd September 2013 18:30Where?PumpstationUtoquai 10, 8008 Zürichhttp://www.pumpstation.ch/ (GoogleMaps Link: http://goo.gl/maps/a7O3Q)!! In case it would rain: we would move over to another place. Stay tuned and check your mailbox before coming...  Please note: I cannot reserve ANY table - the first one to come should get a big table for all ,-) !!---Registration:Start:Friday, 30th August 2013 - 15:50Stop:Monday, 2nd September 2013 - 12:00Reg-URL: http://swinog.be/---Since we have to make reservations, I need to know who's coming and who not.If you can't attend and you're registered please inform me ASAP (+41 79 277 92 35).greetings-steven___swinog mailing listswinog@lists.swinog.chhttp://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
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Re: [swinog] SwiNOG #26 - [updated]

[Roman Hochuli]

Hello Everyone

The agenda, as far as it is confirmed, has been published now. As usual
slightly later than planned... ;)

Hint: the registration deadline is May 16th - that is end of this week!

-- 
Best regards,
Roman Hochuli
SwiNOG Organisation

 - Original Message -
 Von: swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch [mailto:swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch]
 Im Auftrag von Simon Ryf
 Gesendet: Freitag, 5. April 2013 10:22
 An: swinog@lists.swinog.ch
 Betreff: [swinog] SwiNOG #26 - Dates and CFP
 
 Dear SwiNOG supporter,
 
 The 26th meeting of the Swiss Network Operators Group (SwiNOG) will be held
 in Berne on top of the Gurten on May 23rd 2013.
 
 
 Important Dates for SwiNOG#26
 ---
 
 11.02.2013 Announcement of Meeting
 05.04.2013 Call for Papers
 14.04.2013 Registration opens
 06.05.2013 Call for Papers closing
 13.05.2013 Final publication of agenda
 16.05.2013 Registration closes
 17.05.2013 Deadline for all slides
 23.05.2013 Meeting day
 
 Topics for Presentations/Talks
 ---
 
 The number and length of presentations per session is not fixed, although
 due to time constraints we would prefer the length of the presentations to
 be between 10 to 45 minutes.
 
 However proposals for longer/shorter presentations or presentations whose
 subject falls outside of the topics below are also welcome; please do not
 hesitate to submit them.
 
 Here is a non-exhaustive list of typical SwiNOG meeting topics:
 
  - Security - DDOS Mitigation - AntiSpam
  - IPv6
  - Open Source tools
  - International view of the internet (incidents, outages, measurements)
  - Routing
  - Server applications (DNS, Web, etc.)
  - Legal issues (BÜPF, etc.)
  - Telecommunication politics (Net Neutrality, Incumbent monopoly, etc.)
 
 
 Language of Slides and Talks
 ---
 
 The whole day will be held in English, therefore we kindly ask you to
 produce your presentation in English.
 
 
 Submission Guidelines
 ---
 
 All submissions must have a strong technical bias and must not be solely
 promotional for your employer.
 
 Please remember that your presentations should be suitable for a target
 audience of technicians from varied backgrounds, working for companies whose
 sizes may vary considerably.
 
 To submit a proposal for a presentation, we request that you provide the
 following information to swinog-core at swinog.ch:
 
 * the name of the presenter (and if applicable your affiliation)
 * a working email address
 * the name and number of the topic which will contain the presentation
 * the title of the presentation
 * its expected length (in minutes)
 * a short abstract of the presentation (so we know what it is about)
 
 We also welcome suggestions for specific presentations which you feel would
 be valuable to the SwiNOG community.
 
 Please be aware that your presentation will be published on the SwiNOG
 website after the event. We can publish modified slides if requested - it
 might be that some confidential data will be presented by you which are not
 intended for publication on the internet.
 
 
 Greetings,
 Simon Ryf
 SwiNOG Core Team
 
 
 General Information (SwiNOG Community)
 ---
 
 The Swiss Network Operators Group (SwiNOG) is an informal group of people
 who are concerned with engineering and operation of the Swiss Internet.
 
 SwiNOG exists to enhance the quality of Internet services available in
 Switzerland. It does this by fostering the free exchange of technical ideas
 and information between different companies and organisations.
 
 SwiNOG is a community for professionals who are operating, designing or
 researching the Internet. It provides a technical forum where those working
 on, with and for the Internet can come together to solve problems with every
 aspect of their (net)work.
 
 The meeting is designed to provide an opportunity for the exchange of
 information among network operators, engineers, researchers and other
 professionals close to the network community.
 
 More information about SwiNOG can be found at http://www.swinog.ch/ 
 
 Information about the meeting will be published at
 http://www.swinog.ch/meetings/swinog26/ 
 
 
 General Information (SwiNOG Organisation)
 ---
 
 The SwiNOG Organisation Association is a non-profit association under
 article 60 and further of the swiss civil law. It manages the SwiNOG
 community ressources (domain, web, mailing-lists, etc..) and organises
 SwiNOG meetings.
 
 Contact:
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 8000 Zurich
 Switzerland
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [swinog] [swinog-core] STATUS AGENDA

[Simon Ryf]

Hallo Roman,

super!!!
Stefan Burschka wird definitiv etwas präsentieren, evtl. ändern sich das
Thema noch, aber das ist ja nicht so super schlimm...
Sollte noch heute eine AW kriegen.

Gruss
Simon - :-)

-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: swi...@swinog.ch [mailto:swi...@swinog.ch] 
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 15. Mai 2013 19:43
An: Simon Ryf
Cc: ste...@swinog.org
Betreff: Re: [swinog-core] STATUS AGENDA

Hallo Simon

 So Agenda ist fast fertig.

Habe die Sponsor-Slots noch auf die offiziellen 25min angepasst. Wenn einer
Meckert können wir es ja immernoch anpassen. ;)

Der Apero ist so etwas früher was einigen Feedbacks zu letzten Event
entgegen kommt. Auch nicht so schlecht, oder?

Gruss
Roman - der dauernd in der Agenda rumpfuscht...



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Re: [swinog] [swinog-core] STATUS AGENDA

[Simon Ryf]

Hallo Roman,

in der Agenda gibt’s noch n fehler...

Peter Raedler (ohne ä und sicher nicht mit aauml; ;-))

Gruss
Simon

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Von: swi...@swinog.ch [mailto:swi...@swinog.ch] 
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 15. Mai 2013 19:43
An: Simon Ryf
Cc: ste...@swinog.org
Betreff: Re: [swinog-core] STATUS AGENDA

Hallo Simon

 So Agenda ist fast fertig.

Habe die Sponsor-Slots noch auf die offiziellen 25min angepasst. Wenn einer
Meckert können wir es ja immernoch anpassen. ;)

Der Apero ist so etwas früher was einigen Feedbacks zu letzten Event
entgegen kommt. Auch nicht so schlecht, oder?

Gruss
Roman - der dauernd in der Agenda rumpfuscht...



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Re: [swinog] [swinog-core] STATUS AGENDA

[Simon Ryf]

Ok Stefan Burschka hat bestätigt.

Tranalyzer – feel the Packets be the Packets

40min um 16:00

Gruss
Simon

-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: Simon Ryf [mailto:si...@swinog.org] 
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 15. Mai 2013 21:02
An: swi...@swinog.ch
Cc: ste...@swinog.org
Betreff: AW: [swinog-core] STATUS AGENDA

Hallo Roman,

in der Agenda gibt’s noch n fehler...

Peter Raedler (ohne ä und sicher nicht mit aauml; ;-))

Gruss
Simon

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Von: swi...@swinog.ch [mailto:swi...@swinog.ch]
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 15. Mai 2013 19:43
An: Simon Ryf
Cc: ste...@swinog.org
Betreff: Re: [swinog-core] STATUS AGENDA

Hallo Simon

 So Agenda ist fast fertig.

Habe die Sponsor-Slots noch auf die offiziellen 25min angepasst. Wenn einer
Meckert können wir es ja immernoch anpassen. ;)

Der Apero ist so etwas früher was einigen Feedbacks zu letzten Event
entgegen kommt. Auch nicht so schlecht, oder?

Gruss
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Re: [swinog] [swinog-core] bezahlt

[Adrian Schurr]

Sensationell, habe das mit den Ferien zwar gelesen aber glatt vergessen.

THX

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Gesendet: Mittwoch, 15. Mai 2013 20:13
An: Adrian Schurr
Cc: swinog-c...@swinog.ch
Betreff: Re: [swinog-core] bezahlt

Hallo Adrian

 Habt Ihr die Bezahlung von meiner Firma erhalten?

--snip
Just a short notice: Since I'm in holidays the next 2 weeks there is no payment 
processing. So dont worry if you don't receive a seat confirmation after you 
paid - I will work this down once I'm back.
--snap

Unser Buchhalter ist noch ein paar Tage in den Ferien. Wenn du am Dienstag noch 
nichts gehört hast melde dich nochmal schnell bei uns.

--
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Re: [swinog] SwiNOG #26 - [updates]

[Steven Glogger]

Hi Everyone,

Just a short notice: Since I'm in holidays the next 2 weeks there is no
payment processing. So dont worry if you don't receive a seat confirmation
after you paid - I will work this down once I'm back. 

Then we're still looking for some presentations - contact us if you have
something interesting to present or you know someone who could present and
we should get into contact (swinog-core at swinog.ch).

Greetings

-steven

-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: Steven Glogger [mailto:ste...@swinog.org] 
Gesendet: Sonntag, 21. April 2013 16:34
An: swinog@lists.swinog.ch
Cc: swinog-c...@swinog.ch
Betreff: AW: [swinog] SwiNOG #26 - Dates and CFP | Reg Open :)

Hi Everyone!

To rember: the Registration is open ,-)

We're still looking for some Presentations, if you have a good topic or you
have wishes please drop an email to swinog-core at swinog.ch.

Greetings

-steven
SwiNOG Core Team

-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch [mailto:swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch]
Im Auftrag von Simon Ryf
Gesendet: Freitag, 5. April 2013 10:22
An: swinog@lists.swinog.ch
Betreff: [swinog] SwiNOG #26 - Dates and CFP

(sorry - there was a typo in the previous mail. SwiNOG #26 meeting will be
on the 23rd of May.)

Dear SwiNOG supporter,

The 26th meeting of the Swiss Network Operators Group (SwiNOG) will be held
in Berne on top of the Gurten on May 23rd 2013.


Important Dates for SwiNOG#26
---

11.02.2013 Announcement of Meeting
05.04.2013 Call for Papers
14.04.2013 Registration opens
06.05.2013 Call for Papers closing
13.05.2013 Final publication of agenda
16.05.2013 Registration closes
17.05.2013 Deadline for all slides
23.05.2013 Meeting day

Topics for Presentations/Talks
---

The number and length of presentations per session is not fixed, although
due to time constraints we would prefer the length of the presentations to
be between 10 to 45 minutes.

However proposals for longer/shorter presentations or presentations whose
subject falls outside of the topics below are also welcome; please do not
hesitate to submit them.

Here is a non-exhaustive list of typical SwiNOG meeting topics:

 - Security - DDOS Mitigation - AntiSpam
 - IPv6
 - Open Source tools
 - International view of the internet (incidents, outages, measurements)
 - Routing
 - Server applications (DNS, Web, etc.)
 - Legal issues (BÜPF, etc.)
 - Telecommunication politics (Net Neutrality, Incumbent monopoly, etc.)


Language of Slides and Talks
---

The whole day will be held in English, therefore we kindly ask you to
produce your presentation in English.


Submission Guidelines
---

All submissions must have a strong technical bias and must not be solely
promotional for your employer.

Please remember that your presentations should be suitable for a target
audience of technicians from varied backgrounds, working for companies whose
sizes may vary considerably.

To submit a proposal for a presentation, we request that you provide the
following information to swinog-core at swinog.ch:

* the name of the presenter (and if applicable your affiliation)
* a working email address
* the name and number of the topic which will contain the presentation
* the title of the presentation
* its expected length (in minutes)
* a short abstract of the presentation (so we know what it is about)

We also welcome suggestions for specific presentations which you feel would
be valuable to the SwiNOG community.

Please be aware that your presentation will be published on the SwiNOG
website after the event. We can publish modified slides if requested - it
might be that some confidential data will be presented by you which are not
intended for publication on the internet.


Greetings,
Simon Ryf
SwiNOG Core Team


General Information (SwiNOG Community)
---

The Swiss Network Operators Group (SwiNOG) is an informal group of people
who are concerned with engineering and operation of the Swiss Internet.

SwiNOG exists to enhance the quality of Internet services available in
Switzerland. It does this by fostering the free exchange of technical ideas
and information between different companies and organisations.

SwiNOG is a community for professionals who are operating, designing or
researching the Internet. It provides a technical forum where those working
on, with and for the Internet can come together to solve problems with every
aspect of their (net)work.

The meeting is designed to provide an opportunity for the exchange of
information among network operators, engineers, researchers and other
professionals close to the network community.

More information about SwiNOG can be found at http://www.swinog.ch/ 

Information about the meeting will be published at
http://www.swinog.ch/meetings/swinog26/ 

Re: [swinog] [swinog-core] SwiNOG-26 (Update)

[Michel Renfer]

Sali Zäme

Die GVs... ;-p

Aus meiner Sicht gibt es folgende Möglichkeiten:

- Termin im März / April (Abendessen)
- Vorabend SwiNOG-26
- Im Juli bei mir auf der Terasse ;-)

gruss
michel


swi...@swinog.ch wrote:

Hoi Michel


Ich habe Gutes zu berichten


Aber Hallo. Wir sind also gut besetzt für das nächste SwiNOG. :)

Dann wäre es ja eigentlich einmal Zeit für zwei GVs und eine
Vorstanssitzung... :-P


Insofern könnte man dem Gurtenpark den Do, 23.Mai definitiv bestätigen


Keine Angst, der Termin wird schon nicht anderweitig vergeben.

Grüsse
Roman





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Re: [swinog] SwiNOG #25 / WCIT

[Arnold Nipper]

On 07.11.2012 20:50, Arnold Nipper wrote:

 This is the RIR's pov ...
 http://www.nro.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/joint-submission-WCIT-RIR.pdf
 

More readings ... http://www.itu.int/en/wcit-12/Pages/public.aspx



Arnold
-- 
Arnold Nipper / nIPper consulting, Sandhausen, Germany
email: arn...@nipper.de  phone: +49 6224 5593407 2
mobile: +49 152 53717690 fax:   +49 6224 5593407 9



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Re: [swinog] SwiNOG #25 - Call for Papers #2

[Arnold Nipper]

Hoi zusammen,

danke nochmal für die Gelegenheit, einen Update zu halten.

On 08.10.2012 02:41, Arnold Nipper wrote:
 * the name of the presenter (and if applicable your affiliation)
 
 Arnold Nipper, DE-CIX Management GmbH
 
 * a working email address
 
 arnold.nip...@de-cix.net
 
 * the name and number of the topic which will contain the presentation
 
 
 
 * the title of the presentation
 
 DE-CIX Update
 
 * its expected length (in minutes)
 
 15 minutes
 
 * a short abstract of the presentation (so we know what it is about)
 
 DE-CIX is operating a couple of IXP in the world. In this presentation
 we want to give an update on the latest developments and activities.
 

die Präsentation liegt unter

 + http://download.de-cix.net/e-an-20121107-swinog25.pdf


Arnold
-- 
Arnold Nipper   e-mail: arnold.nip...@de-cix.net
DE-CIX Management GmbH  mobile: +49 152 5371 7690
Lichtstr. 43i, 50825 Koeln  phone:  +49 69 1730 902 22
Geschaeftsfuehrer Harald A. Summa   fax:+49 69 4056 2716
Registergericht AG Koeln HRB 51135  http://www.de-cix.net



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Re: [swinog] SwiNOG #25 Registration is open

[Steven Glogger]

hmm.. right, missed the meeting overview .
check the little box on the left side :)

i'll fix it in the meantime.

-steven

On 10/10/12 16:17, Christian Jouas wrote:

Two different browsers same result, cache cleanup same result.

  ul
lia  href=swinog1/index.asp  
view-source:http://www.swinog.ch/meetings/swinog1/index.aspSwiNOG 1, 18. october 2000, 
Berne/a/li
lia  href=swinog2/index.asp  
view-source:http://www.swinog.ch/meetings/swinog2/index.aspSwiNOG 2, 21. march 2001, 
Zurich/a/li
lia  href=swinog3/index.asp  
view-source:http://www.swinog.ch/meetings/swinog3/index.aspSwiNOG 3, 19. september 2001, 
Berne/a/li
lia  href=swinog4/index.asp  
view-source:http://www.swinog.ch/meetings/swinog4/index.aspSwiNOG 4, 17. april 2002, 
Berne/a/li
lia  href=swinog5/index.asp  
view-source:http://www.swinog.ch/meetings/swinog5/index.aspSwiNOG 5, 25. september 2002, 
Berne/a/li
lia  href=swinog6/index.asp  
view-source:http://www.swinog.ch/meetings/swinog6/index.aspSwiNOG 6, 10. april 2003, 
Berne/a/li
lia  href=swinog7/index.asp  
view-source:http://www.swinog.ch/meetings/swinog7/index.aspSwiNOG 7, 22. october 2003, 
Berne/a/li
lia  href=swinog8/index.asp  
view-source:http://www.swinog.ch/meetings/swinog8/index.aspSwiNOG 8, 24. march 2004, 
Berne/a/li
lia  href=swinog9/index.asp  
view-source:http://www.swinog.ch/meetings/swinog9/index.aspSwiNOG 9, 29. september 2004, 
Berne/a/li
lia  href=swinog10/index.asp  
view-source:http://www.swinog.ch/meetings/swinog10/index.aspSwiNOG 10, 20. april 2005, 
Berne/a/li 
lia  href=swinog11/index.asp  
view-source:http://www.swinog.ch/meetings/swinog11/index.aspSwiNOG 11, 20. october 2005, 
Berne/a/li
lia  href=swinog12/index.asp  
view-source:http://www.swinog.ch/meetings/swinog12/index.aspSwiNOG 12, 04. may 2006, 
Berne/a/li
lia  href=swinog13/index.asp  
view-source:http://www.swinog.ch/meetings/swinog13/index.aspSwiNOG 13, 01. november 2006, 
Berne/a/li
lia  href=swinog14/index.asp  
view-source:http://www.swinog.ch/meetings/swinog14/index.aspSwiNOG 14, 30. may 2007, 
Berne/a/li
lia  href=swinog15/index.asp  
view-source:http://www.swinog.ch/meetings/swinog15/index.aspSwiNOG 15, 04. december 2007, 
Berne/a/li
lia  href=swinog16/index.asp  
view-source:http://www.swinog.ch/meetings/swinog16/index.aspSwiNOG 16, 14. may 2008, 
Berne/a/li
lia  href=swinog17/index.asp  
view-source:http://www.swinog.ch/meetings/swinog17/index.aspSwiNOG 17, 22. october 2008, 
Berne/a/li
lia  href=swinog18/index.asp  
view-source:http://www.swinog.ch/meetings/swinog18/index.aspSwiNOG 18, 02. april 2009, 
Berne/a/li
lia  href=swinog19/index.asp  
view-source:http://www.swinog.ch/meetings/swinog19/index.aspSwiNOG 19, 29. september 2009, 
Berne/a/li
lia  href=swinog20/index.asp  
view-source:http://www.swinog.ch/meetings/swinog20/index.aspSwiNOG 20, 01. june 2010, 
Berne/a/li
lia  href=swinog21/index.asp  
view-source:http://www.swinog.ch/meetings/swinog21/index.aspSwiNOG 21, 11. november 2010, 
Berne/a/li
lia  href=swinog22/index.asp  
view-source:http://www.swinog.ch/meetings/swinog22/index.aspSwiNOG 22, 09. may 2011, 
Berne/a/li
lia  href=swinog23/index.asp  
view-source:http://www.swinog.ch/meetings/swinog23/index.aspSwiNOG 23, 10. november 2011, 
Berne/a/li  
lia  href=swinog24/index.asp  
view-source:http://www.swinog.ch/meetings/swinog24/index.aspSwiNOG 24, 10. may 2012, 
Berne/a/li   
/ul

Are other people also affected ?

Chris


Le 10.10.2012 16:10, Steven Glogger a écrit :

hi chris,

it is since some days... did your browser cached the old site?

greetings

-steven

Am 10.10.2012 um 15:56 schrieb Christian Jouas 
christian.jo...@sig-telecom.net 
mailto:christian.jo...@sig-telecom.net:



Hi Steven,

When will be the registration link available on the swinog site (www 
part) ?


Thanks
Chris


Le 07.10.2012 23:45, Steven Glogger a écrit :

Dear SwiNOGers,
The registration for SwiNOG #25 is open until 1st of November.
If you want to join after this 

Re: [swinog] SwiNOG #25 - Call for Papers #2

[Roman Hochuli]

Hallo Arnold

Keine Angst, der DE-CIX Update ist auf der Liste ;)

-- 
Best regards,
Roman Hochuli
SwiNOG Organisation




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Re: [swinog] [swinog-antispam] Calling all stations!

[Lukas Meyer (TSG Codebase)]

Hello everybody!

Its been a while since the last activity on this thread, it was holiday 
season. Im aware that this list is usually for admin purposes, 
nonetheless I see some importance in this topic nowadays. And we have 
something interesting to say about it. So Im taking the freedom to post 
another commercial message on this.


I been in the hosting-market for 16 yrs now, mostly as an independent 
and with pretty good projects. I saw the market go from diversivied into 
a huge consolidation with a shrinking market volume. Nowadays I am the 
head of Tecnostore Group (http://www.tecnostore-group.com), a small 
company with about a dozen nerds in .ch and .in. TSgroup is selling its 
own SaaS products at http://www.dasprivacy.com, but also provides 
infrastructure, mostly as whitelabel to companies and some providers. 
About a week ago we launched this services for the public at 
http://www.cleartier.com (Our pages arent that gr8, but come on, v r 
techies not designers)


The reason Im writing this is our cleartier architecture: We can run it 
zone-based in multiple locations. Currently we have three zones: One in 
Delhi, and two in Switzerland. Inside each zone we can put up small 
virtual datacenters for our customers (up to 50 hosts, virtual. Physical 
on Demand). This is very popular mostly with ISVs to run SaaS-Products. 
As our business is picking up speed, we are looking for partners, and 
like to present various business cases for people on this list.


For Hosting-Providers that are pretty small, and have other main revenue 
streams (e.g. renting Broadcast Equipment):

- Bring down your cost by moving into the ClearZones Virtual Datacenter.
- Lower the administration footprint by leaving monitoring  management 
to us.

- Keep your brand and your customers by doing only first level  billing.
- With the Physical to Virtual migration techniques, you can even move 
your current setups into our virtual datacenter.
- If you want to migrate to a newer infrastructure, we can provide you a 
up-to-date technology hosting setup (Ubuntu 12.04 based).


For Line-Access Providers, Datacenter Owners and such:
- As a Line-Access provider you can provide added value to your 
customers by running a ClearZone Inhouse.
- We feature a lot of turnkey solutions and setups and we take over the 
management.
- As a datacenter owner, you can provide a ClearZone with your overhead 
hardware.
- We are looking to resell our services and some services of our 
ISV-Customers through the channels of current ISPs.


So long story short: There are a lot of business opportunities also for 
smaller providers, theres no need to make a frown guys.


You can reach us at:
- serv...@tecnostore-group.com
- 041 312 13 91 (Lukas Meyer, CEO)
- 041 312 13 92 (Peter Hethely, System Engineering)

We look forward to get in touch with you.

Regards

L. Meyer


Am 02.08.12 13:26, schrieb Xaver Aerni:

Hello,
My office is two a small ISP. We have less than 50 Hostingclinets. If 
we would have to live them we would have a problem. I think that we 
will outsource somme service in the Future like e-Mail... etc.
We have beginn with the ISP Services in Year 1996. At this time was 
the Price for a Hosting Fr. 80.-- or more. Today, you will pay for the 
same Service by a Serferfarm for Fr. 5.-- till 25.--.
In fact. You make less money. And must pay more for the 
infrastructure. I would also calculate a my work, then the loss would 
be a lot higher. At the Moment we make the money with renting 
Broadcast Equipment.  The ISP Part will financed whit this buissness.

Thats is fact. And I don't think this will be better in the future.
Greetings Xaver


*Von:* swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch
[mailto:swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch] *Im Auftrag von *chris burri
*Gesendet:* Donnerstag, 2. August 2012 03:49
*An:* swi...@swinog.ch
*Betreff:* [swinog] Calling all stations!

To whom it may concern:

Starting from zero and nowhere plus an old computer, I've spent
the last few Months since September 2011 in St. Gallen, building a
small but steady ISP operation supporting close to 30 active
customers as of right now.

At my business' core, a remarkable web of ideas. Entirely founded
on a rather ingenious prepaid-everything-everywhere philosophy,
aiming for no less than total evasion from last-mile stranglehold
and reseller slavery in particular and other, potentially
unhealthy dependencies in general while reaching far beyond just
telecommunications, into financial services and more. Much of this
glorious plan has been condensed down from my brains into a paper,
covering 86 pages A4 already. Some people would literally kill to
get their hands on those pages, they just don't know yet... But
gladly, there's no need to send a hitman! I'll let you read the
entire thing if you sign me an NDA or hire me on the spot.

Re: [swinog] [swinog-antispam] Calling all stations!

[Oliver Schad]

On Thu, 23 Aug 2012 12:47:09 +0200
Lukas Meyer (TSG Codebase) lu...@codebase.ch wrote:

 Its been a while since the last activity on this thread, it was
 holiday season. Im aware that this list is usually for admin
 purposes, [...]

[...] but I think I'm a so awesome guy, that I can ignore the purpose of
such a mailinglist and spam it. You can call me chuck norris.

Best regards from my drug dealer
Luke


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Re: [swinog] [swinog-antispam] Calling all stations!

[Viktor Steinmann]

Dear Lukas

I guess it's not a coincidence, that you're trying to sell something to 
this list, just after the call for sponsors for SwiNOG 25 has gone out.


It's just that: Next time, please send your sponsoring application to 
swinog-core, not to the technical discussion lists.


Kind regards,
Viktor

On 23.08.2012 12:47, Lukas Meyer (TSG Codebase) wrote:

Hello everybody!

Its been a while since the last activity on this thread, it was 
holiday season. Im aware that this list is usually for admin purposes, 
nonetheless I see some importance in this topic nowadays. And we have 
something interesting to say about it. So Im taking the freedom to 
post another commercial message on this.


I been in the hosting-market for 16 yrs now, mostly as an independent 
and with pretty good projects. I saw the market go from diversivied 
into a huge consolidation with a shrinking market volume. Nowadays I 
am the head of Tecnostore Group (http://www.tecnostore-group.com), a 
small company with about a dozen nerds in .ch and .in. TSgroup is 
selling its own SaaS products at http://www.dasprivacy.com, but also 
provides infrastructure, mostly as whitelabel to companies and some 
providers. About a week ago we launched this services for the public 
at http://www.cleartier.com (Our pages arent that gr8, but come on, v 
r techies not designers)


The reason Im writing this is our cleartier architecture: We can run 
it zone-based in multiple locations. Currently we have three zones: 
One in Delhi, and two in Switzerland. Inside each zone we can put up 
small virtual datacenters for our customers (up to 50 hosts, virtual. 
Physical on Demand). This is very popular mostly with ISVs to run 
SaaS-Products. As our business is picking up speed, we are looking for 
partners, and like to present various business cases for people on 
this list.


For Hosting-Providers that are pretty small, and have other main 
revenue streams (e.g. renting Broadcast Equipment):

- Bring down your cost by moving into the ClearZones Virtual Datacenter.
- Lower the administration footprint by leaving monitoring  
management to us.

- Keep your brand and your customers by doing only first level  billing.
- With the Physical to Virtual migration techniques, you can even move 
your current setups into our virtual datacenter.
- If you want to migrate to a newer infrastructure, we can provide you 
a up-to-date technology hosting setup (Ubuntu 12.04 based).


For Line-Access Providers, Datacenter Owners and such:
- As a Line-Access provider you can provide added value to your 
customers by running a ClearZone Inhouse.
- We feature a lot of turnkey solutions and setups and we take over 
the management.
- As a datacenter owner, you can provide a ClearZone with your 
overhead hardware.
- We are looking to resell our services and some services of our 
ISV-Customers through the channels of current ISPs.


So long story short: There are a lot of business opportunities also 
for smaller providers, theres no need to make a frown guys.


You can reach us at:
- serv...@tecnostore-group.com
- 041 312 13 91 (Lukas Meyer, CEO)
- 041 312 13 92 (Peter Hethely, System Engineering)

We look forward to get in touch with you.

Regards

L. Meyer


Am 02.08.12 13:26, schrieb Xaver Aerni:

Hello,
My office is two a small ISP. We have less than 50 Hostingclinets. If 
we would have to live them we would have a problem. I think that we 
will outsource somme service in the Future like e-Mail... etc.
We have beginn with the ISP Services in Year 1996. At this time was 
the Price for a Hosting Fr. 80.-- or more. Today, you will pay for 
the same Service by a Serferfarm for Fr. 5.-- till 25.--.
In fact. You make less money. And must pay more for the 
infrastructure. I would also calculate a my work, then the loss would 
be a lot higher. At the Moment we make the money with renting 
Broadcast Equipment.  The ISP Part will financed whit this buissness.

Thats is fact. And I don't think this will be better in the future.
Greetings Xaver


*Von:* swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch
[mailto:swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch] *Im Auftrag von *chris burri
*Gesendet:* Donnerstag, 2. August 2012 03:49
*An:* swi...@swinog.ch
*Betreff:* [swinog] Calling all stations!

To whom it may concern:

Starting from zero and nowhere plus an old computer, I've spent
the last few Months since September 2011 in St. Gallen, building
a small but steady ISP operation supporting close to 30 active
customers as of right now.

At my business' core, a remarkable web of ideas. Entirely founded
on a rather ingenious prepaid-everything-everywhere philosophy,
aiming for no less than total evasion from last-mile stranglehold
and reseller slavery in particular and other, potentially
unhealthy dependencies in general while reaching far beyond
just telecommunications, into financial services 

Re: [swinog] [swinog-antispam] Calling all stations!

[Lukas Meyer (TSG Codebase)]

Dear Viktor,

1. I didnt want to sell something, i rather considered it an offer for 
collaboration.
2. I only get the digest version of the mailing list, somebody else did 
forward your msg to me. Usually I dont even have time to read them.
3. I know i fucked up sending the mail (it went to antispam too btw). No 
need for RBL. The problem seems to sit in front of the machine today ;-)


About the sponsoring request: I honestly didnt hv a clue about that one. 
But we consider swinog a good thing, and i will definitely look into it.


So thanks for the information, and please accept my apologies in case 
anybody feels offended.


Regards

Lukas

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Re: [swinog] swinog Digest, Vol 87, Issue 15

[shibu shibu]

Hi,
 
What is the problem of routing... how can i help you, give me more 
information
 

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Re: [swinog] [swinog-core] SwiNOG #24 Announcement: 10th of May 2012

[Roman Hochuli]

Hello Arnold

 Call for papers will be sent tomorrow in a separate message.

 Did I miss that? At least I didn't see the cfp so far ...

Apparently, yes. Altough I have to admit we did sent it out a few ours
late to our schedule. :)

Regards
Roman
---BeginMessage---
hello everybody,

The 24th meeting of the Swiss Network Operators Group (SwiNOG) will be held
in Berne on top of the Gurten on May 10th 2012.


Important Dates for SwiNOG#24
---

05.03.2012  Announcement of Meeting
06.03.2012  Call for Papers
25.03.2012  Registration opens
16.04.2012  Call for Papers closing
23.04.2012  Final publication of agenda
04.05.2012  Registration closes
05.05.2012  Deadline for all slides
10.05.2012  Meeting day


Topics for Presentations/Talks
---

The number and length of presentations per session is not fixed, although
due to time constraints we would prefer the length of the presentations to
be between 10 to 45 minutes.

However proposals for longer/shorter presentations or presentations whose
subject falls outside of the topics below are also welcome; please do not
hesitate to submit them.

Here is a non-exhaustive list of typical SwiNOG meeting topics:

 - Security - DDOS Mitigation - AntiSpam
 - IPv6
 - Open Source tools
 - International view of the internet (incidents, outages, measurements)
 - Routing
 - Server applications (DNS, Web, etc.)
 - Legal issues (BÜPF, etc.)
 - Telecommunication polictics (Net Neutrality, Incumbent monopoly, etc.)


Language of Slides and Talks
---

The whole day will be held in English, therefore we kindly ask you to
produce your presentation in English.


Submission Guidelines
---

All submissions must have a strong technical bias and must not be solely
promotional for your employer.

Please remember that your presentations should be suitable for a target
audience of technicians from varied backgrounds, working for companies whose
sizes may vary considerably.

To submit a proposal for a presentation, we request that you provide the
following information to swinog-core at swinog.ch:

* the name of the presenter (and if applicable your affiliation)
* a working email address
* the name and number of the topic which will contain the presentation
* the title of the presentation
* its expected length (in minutes)
* a short abstract of the presentation (so we know what it is about)

We also welcome suggestions for specific presentations which you feel would
be valuable to the SwiNOG community.

Please be aware that your presentation will be published on the SwiNOG
website after the event. We can publish modified slides if requested - it
might be that some confidential data will be presented by you which are not
intended for publication on the internet.


Greetings,
Steven Glogger
SwiNOG Core Team


General Information (SwiNOG Community)
---

The Swiss Network Operators Group (SwiNOG) is an informal group of people
who are concerned with engineering and operation of the Swiss Internet.

SwiNOG exists to enhance the quality of Internet services available in
Switzerland. It does this by fostering the free exchange of technical ideas
and information between different companies and organisations.

SwiNOG is a community for professionals who are operating, designing or
researching the Internet. It provides a technical forum where those working
on, with and for the Internet can come together to solve problems with every
aspect of their (net)work.

The meeting is designed to provide an opportunity for the exchange of
information among network operators, engineers, researchers and other
professionals close to the network community.

More information about SwiNOG can be found at http://www.swinog.ch/ 

Information about the meeting will be published at
http://www.swinog.ch/meetings/swinog24/ 


General Information (SwiNOG Organisation)
---

The SwiNOG Organisation Association is a non-profit association under
article 60 and further of the swiss civil law. It manages the SwiNOG
community ressources (domain, web, mailing-lists, etc..) and organises
SwiNOG meetings.

Contact:
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Re: [swinog] SwiNOG #24 Announcement: 10th of May 2012

[Arnold Nipper]

on 05.03.2012 09:59 Steven Glogger wrote:

 Call for papers will be sent tomorrow in a separate message.
 

Did I miss that? At least I didn't see the cfp so far ...



Arnold
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Re: [swinog] SwiNOG-BE102 - Beer Event 102 - 3rd of November 2011 @ Restaurant Tank

[Clive Stone - IX Reach]

Thanks for the reminder!

Have just registered.  I look forward to seeing you all (will be my first!)

Clive Stone

On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 10:59 AM, Roman Hochuli ro...@swinog.org wrote:

 hi everybody

 here's the announcement for the next beer event.

 the facts for the next event:
 -

 Date:   3rd of November 2011

 Time:   starting around 18.30 o'clock

 Location:  @ the Restaurant Tank Heinrichstrasse, beside Mama Africa

 Registration deadline: 01.10.2011 18:00:00

 -

 Please register here: http://swinog.mrmouse.ch/


 since we have to make reservations, i need to know who's coming and who
 not. If you cannot attend and you're registered please inform me asap
 (+41 79 22 44 9 33).

 - roman



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Re: [swinog] swinog Digest, Vol 79, Issue 1: remotely-controlled network tests, like packet capture

[Fischer, Martin]

Stanislav Sinyagin ssinya...@yahoo.com wrote: 

   Migros is selling a cheap netbook for CHF 222.-
   http://goo.gl/1tZ5C
   Acer Aspire One AOD 255E-13DQws
   1024x600 screen, 1GB RAM, 250GB disk
   6-cell battery (!)

   It's a perfect device for remotely-controlled network tests, like
   packet capture or any telnet/snmp/SIP/perlscript testing
   scenarios that you like.

(...)

My Experience is that notebooks are not realy useful for packet
sniffing...as more an more Gibabit is common and laptops are no a
recommended option to measure data transmission.

Especialy when capture filters will be used...

Also the available disc space is very limited...

I prefer older server infrastructure, that is able to run captures from
several points with 2-4 or more NIC's in a ringbuffer configuration...


Cheers Martin 


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Re: [swinog] swinog Digest, Vol 79, Issue 1: remotely-controlled network tests, like packet capture

[Robert.Guentensperger]

Ähmm Stan,


|6-cell battery (!)

Spezifikationen (on Detail page)
...
Akku Technologie
3 cell Li-ion Battery up to 4 hour battery life
^^

Cheers,
Günti


|-Original Message-
|From: swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch [mailto:swinog-
|boun...@lists.swinog.ch] On Behalf Of Stanislav Sinyagin
|Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 2:33 PM
|To: swinog@lists.swinog.ch
|Subject: Re: [swinog] swinog Digest, Vol 79, Issue 1: remotely-
|controlled network tests, like packet capture
|
|
|
|
|
|- Original Message -
| From: Fischer, Martin martin.fisc...@swisstxt.ch
| To: swinog@lists.swinog.ch
| Cc:
| Sent: Tuesday, August 2, 2011 1:30 PM
| Subject: Re: [swinog] swinog Digest, Vol 79, Issue 1: remotely-
|controlled network tests, like packet capture
|
| Stanislav Sinyagin ssinya...@yahoo.com wrote:
|
|    Migros is selling a cheap netbook for CHF 222.-
|   http://goo.gl/1tZ5C 
|    Acer Aspire One AOD 255E-13DQws
|    1024x600 screen, 1GB RAM, 250GB disk
|    6-cell battery (!)
|
|    It's a perfect device for remotely-controlled network tests, like
|    packet capture or any telnet/snmp/SIP/perlscript testing
|    scenarios that you like.
|
| (...)
|
| My Experience is that notebooks are not realy useful for packet
| sniffing...as more an more Gibabit is common and laptops are no a
| recommended option to measure data transmission.
|
| Especialy when capture filters will be used...
|
| Also the available disc space is very limited...
|
| I prefer older server infrastructure, that is able to run captures
|from
| several points with 2-4 or more NIC's in a ringbuffer configuration...
|
|
|You are right in the sense that the right tool should be used for the
|right job :)
|
|Of course it's not suitable for high-bandwidth sniffing, although quite
|useful for
|the occasions where you don't have high-volume traffic.
|For example, I use one such notebook for an IP-telephony deployment near
|the
|border controllers. As it's not yet in production, I know exactly how
|much traffic
|I'm going to have.
|
|The benefit is that I easily bring this notebook to the customer
|location,
|and it doesn't need much (rack)space. Also I don't have to ask the
|customer to
|provide new PC hardware.
|
|
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Re: [swinog] swinog Digest, Vol 79, Issue 1: remotely-controlled network tests, like packet capture

[Stanislav Sinyagin]

I looked up 255E-13DQws specs on Acer web site, and it says 6-cell.

I bought previously a slightly different model at Interdiscount for 

CHF299.-, and it had 6 cells.

I'll have a closer look when I pass by the M-Electronics shop next time.





- Original Message -
 From: robert.guentensper...@swisscom.com 
 robert.guentensper...@swisscom.com
 To: swinog@lists.swinog.ch
 Cc: 
 Sent: Tuesday, August 2, 2011 2:44 PM
 Subject: Re: [swinog] swinog Digest, Vol 79, Issue 1: remotely-controlled 
 network tests, like packet capture
 
 Ähmm Stan,
 
 
 |    6-cell battery (!)
 
 Spezifikationen (on Detail page)
 ...
 Akku Technologie
     3 cell Li-ion Battery up to 4 hour battery life
     ^^
 
 Cheers,
 Günti
 
 
 |-Original Message-
 |From: swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch [mailto:swinog-
 |boun...@lists.swinog.ch] On Behalf Of Stanislav Sinyagin
 |Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 2:33 PM
 |To: swinog@lists.swinog.ch
 |Subject: Re: [swinog] swinog Digest, Vol 79, Issue 1: remotely-
 |controlled network tests, like packet capture
 |
 |
 |
 |
 |
 |- Original Message -
 | From: Fischer, Martin martin.fisc...@swisstxt.ch
 | To: swinog@lists.swinog.ch
 | Cc:
 | Sent: Tuesday, August 2, 2011 1:30 PM
 | Subject: Re: [swinog] swinog Digest, Vol 79, Issue 1: remotely-
 |controlled network tests, like packet capture
 |
 | Stanislav Sinyagin ssinya...@yahoo.com wrote:
 |
 |    Migros is selling a cheap netbook for CHF 222.-
 |   http://goo.gl/1tZ5C 
 |    Acer Aspire One AOD 255E-13DQws
 |    1024x600 screen, 1GB RAM, 250GB disk
 |    6-cell battery (!)
 |
 |    It's a perfect device for remotely-controlled network tests, like
 |    packet capture or any telnet/snmp/SIP/perlscript testing
 |    scenarios that you like.
 |
 | (...)
 |
 | My Experience is that notebooks are not realy useful for packet
 | sniffing...as more an more Gibabit is common and laptops are no a
 | recommended option to measure data transmission.
 |
 | Especialy when capture filters will be used...
 |
 | Also the available disc space is very limited...
 |
 | I prefer older server infrastructure, that is able to run captures
 |from
 | several points with 2-4 or more NIC's in a ringbuffer configuration...
 |
 |
 |You are right in the sense that the right tool should be used for the
 |right job :)
 |
 |Of course it's not suitable for high-bandwidth sniffing, although quite
 |useful for
 |the occasions where you don't have high-volume traffic.
 |For example, I use one such notebook for an IP-telephony deployment near
 |the
 |border controllers. As it's not yet in production, I know exactly how
 |much traffic
 |I'm going to have.
 |
 |The benefit is that I easily bring this notebook to the customer
 |location,
 |and it doesn't need much (rack)space. Also I don't have to ask the
 |customer to
 |provide new PC hardware.
 |
 |
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Re: [swinog] SwiNOG-BE99 - Beer Event 99 - 11th of July 2011 @ Pumpstation/ZH

[John Hill]

Hi Steven, I hope you are well.

 

Thank you for the invite to the next beer event, we would really like to
attend but cannot make this particular onemaybe next time.

 

On another matter, Clive Stone (cc) has just joined the team here at IX
Reach, would you please add his name to the Swinog mailing lists as he will
be heavily involved in the Swiss part of our Network moving forwards.

 

Many thanks, John.

 

 

From: swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch [mailto:swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch]
On Behalf Of Steven Glogger
Sent: 06 July 2011 15:44
To: swinog@lists.swinog.ch
Subject: [swinog] SwiNOG-BE99 - Beer Event 99 - 11th of July 2011 @
Pumpstation/ZH

 

hi everybody

 

here's the announcement for the next beer event.

I hope the weather will be great for the lake view ,-)

 

Imporant: I cannot reserve! So please be early!

 

If it's rainy  we will move to the restaurant Outback at the bahnhof
stadelhofen - definitive decision will be made Monday between 13:00 and
14:00.

 

Please check your personal mails and/or website before going to the 

event ,-)

 

 

 

the facts for the next event:

-

Date:   11th of July 2011

 

Time:   starting around 18.30 o'clock

 

Location:  @lake in restaurant Pumpstation (see image;
www.pumpstation.ch)

 

On Bad weather (will be communicated on the same day around noon) we go 

to the Outback Bahnhof Stadelhofen

 

Registration deadline: 10.07.2011 18:00:00

 

-

 

Please register here: http://swinog.mrmouse.ch/

 

since we have to make reservations, i need to know who's coming and who 

not. If you cannot attend and you're registered please inform me asap 

(+41 79 277 92 35).

 

 

-steven


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Re: [swinog] Swinog BE 99 shifted by one week

[roger]

nice the 99th 

a pain in the a** i cant attend
maybe the BE's could be expanded by a video conf, beer is available here as well

Roger

 hi all
 
 due to some issues I need ti shift the BE99 to monday in one week. I will 
 update registration and send out the invitation tomorrow.
 
 greetings
 
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Re: [swinog] Swinog BE 99 shifted by one week

[Roger Gottsponer]

My router is already celebrating BE 100...

Cheers,

Roger

RP/0/RSP0/CPU0:lab-router#sh int des | i BE
Mon Jul  4 14:48:18.665 MEST

Interface  Status  ProtocolDescription

BE100  up  up  Lets celebrate BE-100
RP/0/RSP0/CPU0:lab-router#sh int bundle-ether 100
Mon Jul  4 14:48:32.049 MEST
Bundle-Ether100 is up, line protocol is up
  Interface state transitions: 27
  Dampening enabled: penalty 0, not suppressed
half_life: 1reuse: 750
suppress:  2000 max-suppress-time: 4
  Description: Lets celebrate BE-100
  Internet address is 10.8.10.22/30
  MTU 4484 bytes, BW 8000 Kbit (Max: 8000 Kbit)
 reliability 255/255, txload 12/255, rxload 0/255
  Encapsulation ARPA,  loopback not set,
  ARP type ARPA, ARP timeout 04:00:00
No. of members in this bundle: 8
TenGigE0/3/0/0   Full-duplex  1Mb/sActive
TenGigE0/3/0/1   Full-duplex  1Mb/sActive
TenGigE0/3/0/2   Full-duplex  1Mb/sActive
TenGigE0/3/0/3   Full-duplex  1Mb/sActive
TenGigE0/4/0/0   Full-duplex  1Mb/sActive
TenGigE0/4/0/1   Full-duplex  1Mb/sActive
TenGigE0/4/0/2   Full-duplex  1Mb/sActive
TenGigE0/4/0/3   Full-duplex  1Mb/sActive
  Last input 00:00:00, output 00:00:00
  Last clearing of show interface counters 2d17h
  30 second input rate 62 bits/sec, 1182 packets/sec
  30 second output rate 3952721000 bits/sec, 331405 packets/sec
 277416541 packets input, 18127272588 bytes, 0 total input drops
 0 drops for unrecognized upper-level protocol
 Received 0 broadcast packets, 158094195 multicast packets
  0 runts, 0 giants, 0 throttles, 0 parity
 0 input errors, 0 CRC, 0 frame, 0 overrun, 0 ignored, 0 abort
 1470026577 packets output, 1802143365158 bytes, 0 total output drops
 Output 0 broadcast packets, 158139242 multicast packets
 0 output errors, 0 underruns, 0 applique, 0 resets
 0 output buffer failures, 0 output buffers swapped out
 0 carrier transitions


RP/0/RSP0/CPU0:lab-router#


On Mon, 4 Jul 2011, ro...@mgz.ch wrote:



nice the 99th

a pain in the a** i cant attend
maybe the BE's could be expanded by a video conf, beer is available here as well

Roger


hi all

due to some issues I need ti shift the BE99 to monday in one week. I will 
update registration and send out the invitation tomorrow.

greetings

-steven



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Re: [swinog] Swinog BE 99 shifted by one week

[Jeroen Massar]

On 2011-07-04 15:19 , Roger Gottsponer wrote:
 My router is already celebrating BE 100...

   Description: Lets celebrate BE-100
   Internet address is 10.8.10.22/30

No IPv6? :)

Greets,
 Jeroen



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Re: [swinog] Swinog BE 99 shifted by one week

[Roger Gottsponer]

Jeroen,

Of course BE100 is IPv6 capable! It is a core interface
and transports labeled packets...

You still need IPv4 for LDP:-)^H(

Cheers,

Roger

On Mon, 4 Jul 2011, Jeroen Massar wrote:


On 2011-07-04 15:19 , Roger Gottsponer wrote:

My router is already celebrating BE 100...



  Description: Lets celebrate BE-100
  Internet address is 10.8.10.22/30


No IPv6? :)

Greets,
Jeroen




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Re: [swinog] swinog Digest, Vol 75, Issue 10

[Stanislav Sinyagin]

but you already failed two interview tests: you answered to a wrong address and 
you used English in some strange way :)





From: shibu shibu shibu...@hotmail.com
To: swinog@lists.swinog.ch
Sent: Tue, April 12, 2011 12:51:41 PM
Subject: Re: [swinog] swinog Digest, Vol 75, Issue 10

  Dear Peter,
 
I would like to join which mentioned below post.
 
ThanksRegards
Shibu.A
Mob +973 39304862
Email: shibu...@hotmail.com
 shib...@gmail.com
 


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Re: [swinog] SwiNOG #22 - Call for Papers

[Steven.Glogger]

The 22nd meeting of the Swiss Network Operators Group (SwiNOG) 
will be held in Berne on top of the Gurten on March 9th 2011.

actually, it's 9th of may ,)

-steven


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Re: [swinog] SwiNOG #22 - Call for Papers

[Pascal Gloor]

I forgot an important information:

Starting with SwiNOG#22, speakers will get a FREE entry at the event.

Speakers WILL receive a VOUCHER so please do NOT register before receiving the 
voucher.

If you register, you will have to pay but you will get a voucher for the next 
SwiNOG event.


Thanks,
Pascal




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Re: [swinog] swinog Digest, Vol 72, Issue 9

[Steven.Glogger]

wrong topic?
what is the relationship between hyperterminal and zend optimizert?
did I missed something?

-steven

From: swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch [mailto:swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch] On 
Behalf Of shibu shibu
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 6:26 AM
To: swinog@lists.swinog.ch
Subject: Re: [swinog] swinog Digest, Vol 72, Issue 9

Dear All,

please suggest to microsfot, and relase  hyperterminal for windows7 OS...

this will be very usefull for all IT.

Reagrds,
Shibu.A


 From: swinog-requ...@lists.swinog.ch
 Subject: swinog Digest, Vol 72, Issue 9
 To: swinog@lists.swinog.ch
 Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 12:00:01 +0100

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 (Matthias Hertzog)


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 Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 16:32:08 +0100
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 Hi there!

 Did anyone in here has a reference of the optimization passes of Zend 
 optimizer? (What is Level 1, What is Level 2, etc...)

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Re: [swinog] swinog Digest, Vol 72, Issue 1

[shibu shibu]

Hi,
 
anybody knows about windows7  psr problem steps recoriding ,
is it possible reocrding remote pc's using psr tools?
 

 
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 Subject: swinog Digest, Vol 72, Issue 1
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 Today's Topics:
 
 1. SwiNOG-BE93 - Beer Event 93 - 10th of January 2011 @ Rollis
 Steakhouse / Kloten ZH (Steven Glogger)
 2. Beer-Event Calendar @ ZH in 2011 (Steven Glogger)
 
 
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 Message: 1
 Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 14:18:57 +0100
 From: Steven Glogger ste...@swinog.org
 Subject: [swinog] SwiNOG-BE93 - Beer Event 93 - 10th of January 2011 @
 Rollis Steakhouse / Kloten ZH
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 hi everybody
 
 here's the announcement for the next beer event.
 Important: Seats are limited to 10 only! If you subscribe be REALLY SURE that 
 you come!
 
 the facts for the next event:
 -
 Date: 10th January 2011
 
 Time: starting around 18.30 o'clock
 
 Location: @ the Rollis Steakhouse in Kloten
 http://www.rollis-steakhouse.ch/
 
 Available Places: 10 (!!!)
 
 Registration deadline: 08.01.2011 18:00:00 (Saturday)
 
 Registration: http://swinog.mrmouse.ch
 
 -
 
 Please register here: http://swinog.mrmouse.ch/ since we have to make 
 reservations, i need to know who's coming and who not. If you cannot attend 
 and you're registered please inform me asap (+41 79 277 92 35).
 
 -steven
 
 
 
 
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 Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 16:24:04 +0100
 From: Steven Glogger ste...@swinog.org
 Subject: [swinog] Beer-Event Calendar @ ZH in 2011
 To: swi...@swinog.ch swi...@swinog.ch
 Message-ID: 4d248d14.6070...@swinog.org
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15; Format=flowed
 
 hi all
 
 i'm glad to announce already the dates for BE93-104 ,-)
 
 i've checked that all dates are not conflicting with any public holidays
 (excl. school).
 
 Event | Date  Time
 -
 SwiNOG-BE93 | Mo 10.01.2011 18:30
 SwiNOG-BE94 | Mo 07.02.2011 18:30
 SwiNOG-BE95 | Mo 07.03.2011 18:30
 SwiNOG-BE96 | Mo 04.04.2011 18:30
 SwiNOG-BE97 | Mo 02.05.2011 18:30
 SwiNOG-BE98 | Mo 06.06.2011 18:30
 SwiNOG-BE99 | Mo 04.07.2011 18:30
 SwiNOG-BE100 | Mo 08.08.2011 18:30
 SwiNOG-BE101 | Mo 05.09.2011 18:30
 SwiNOG-BE102 | Mo 03.10.2011 18:30
 SwiNOG-BE103 | Mo 07.11.2011 18:30
 SwiNOG-BE104 | Mo 05.12.2011 18:30 
 
 i've attached a zip file with all the calendar entries for your favorite
 calendar application. hope this will work for you. those *.ics files are
 supposed to be RFC conform - tested in outlook and iCal: working ,-)
 if this is not working for you: type it yourself in your
 $calendarapplication.
 
 greetings
 
 -steven
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Re: [swinog] swinog Digest, Vol 70, Issue 21

[shibu shibu]

Thank you for your information.
 
Regards
Shibu.A
 


From: steven.glog...@swisscom.com
To: shibu...@hotmail.com; swinog@lists.swinog.ch
Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2010 13:38:45 +0100
Subject: RE: [swinog] swinog Digest, Vol 70, Issue 21






hmm…
did you read:
 
 There is no expected impact on the functional operation of the DNS
 due to this change.
 
 There are no actions required by DNS server operators or end users.
 
-steven
 


From: swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch [mailto:swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch] On 
Behalf Of shibu shibu
Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 11:33 AM
To: swinog@lists.swinog.ch
Subject: Re: [swinog] swinog Digest, Vol 70, Issue 21
 
Hi,
 
 
Can i know where are all impcat for those changes.
 
 From: swinog-requ...@lists.swinog.ch
 Subject: swinog Digest, Vol 70, Issue 21
 To: swinog@lists.swinog.ch
 Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2010 12:00:01 +0100
 
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 Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2010 13:38:53 +
 From: Joe Abley joe.ab...@icann.org
 Subject: [swinog] Planned IP6.ARPA Nameserver Change
 To: swinog@lists.swinog.ch
 Message-ID: e1plc2h-000ibn...@monster.hopcount.ca
 
 PLANNED IP6.ARPA NAMESERVER CHANGE
 
 This is a courtesy notification of an upcoming change to the
 nameserver set for the IP6.ARPA zone.
 
 There is no expected impact on the functional operation of the DNS
 due to this change.
 
 There are no actions required by DNS server operators or end users.
 
 DETAIL
 
 The IP6.ARPA zone is used to provide reverse mapping (number to
 name) for IPv6, as described in RFC 3152. The servers which currently
 provide authoritative DNS service for the IP6.ARPA zone are as
 follows:
 
 TINNIE.ARIN.NET
 NS-SEC.RIPE.NET
 NS2.LACNIC.NET
 SEC1.APNIC.NET
 NS.ICANN.ORG
 
 On Wednesday 2010-12-01 processing will begin to change the nameserver
 set to the following, as described in RFC 5855:
 
 A.IP6-SERVERS.ARPA (operated by ARIN)
 B.IP6-SERVERS.ARPA (operated by ICANN)
 C.IP6-SERVERS.ARPA (operated by AfriNIC)
 D.IP6-SERVERS.ARPA (operated by LACNIC)
 E.IP6-SERVERS.ARPA (operated by APNIC)
 F.IP6-SERVERS.ARPA (operated by RIPE NCC)
 
 The usual IANA process for a change in the ARPA zone involves a
 series of technical checks and the gathering of various authorisations,
 and may take several days to complete. Courtesy notification will
 be sent to this list once this change has been fully implemented.
 
 Regards,
 
 
 Joe Abley
 Director DNS Operations
 ICANN
 
 
 
 
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Re: [swinog] swinog Digest, Vol 70, Issue 21

[shibu shibu]

Hi,
 
 
Can i know where are all impcat for those changes.
 
 From: swinog-requ...@lists.swinog.ch
 Subject: swinog Digest, Vol 70, Issue 21
 To: swinog@lists.swinog.ch
 Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2010 12:00:01 +0100
 
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 Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2010 13:38:53 +
 From: Joe Abley joe.ab...@icann.org
 Subject: [swinog] Planned IP6.ARPA Nameserver Change
 To: swinog@lists.swinog.ch
 Message-ID: e1plc2h-000ibn...@monster.hopcount.ca
 
 PLANNED IP6.ARPA NAMESERVER CHANGE
 
 This is a courtesy notification of an upcoming change to the
 nameserver set for the IP6.ARPA zone.
 
 There is no expected impact on the functional operation of the DNS
 due to this change.
 
 There are no actions required by DNS server operators or end users.
 
 DETAIL
 
 The IP6.ARPA zone is used to provide reverse mapping (number to
 name) for IPv6, as described in RFC 3152. The servers which currently
 provide authoritative DNS service for the IP6.ARPA zone are as
 follows:
 
 TINNIE.ARIN.NET
 NS-SEC.RIPE.NET
 NS2.LACNIC.NET
 SEC1.APNIC.NET
 NS.ICANN.ORG
 
 On Wednesday 2010-12-01 processing will begin to change the nameserver
 set to the following, as described in RFC 5855:
 
 A.IP6-SERVERS.ARPA (operated by ARIN)
 B.IP6-SERVERS.ARPA (operated by ICANN)
 C.IP6-SERVERS.ARPA (operated by AfriNIC)
 D.IP6-SERVERS.ARPA (operated by LACNIC)
 E.IP6-SERVERS.ARPA (operated by APNIC)
 F.IP6-SERVERS.ARPA (operated by RIPE NCC)
 
 The usual IANA process for a change in the ARPA zone involves a
 series of technical checks and the gathering of various authorisations,
 and may take several days to complete. Courtesy notification will
 be sent to this list once this change has been fully implemented.
 
 Regards,
 
 
 Joe Abley
 Director DNS Operations
 ICANN
 
 
 
 
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Re: [swinog] swinog Digest, Vol 70, Issue 21

[Steven.Glogger]

hmm...
did you read:

 There is no expected impact on the functional operation of the DNS
 due to this change.

 There are no actions required by DNS server operators or end users.

-steven

From: swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch [mailto:swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch] On 
Behalf Of shibu shibu
Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 11:33 AM
To: swinog@lists.swinog.ch
Subject: Re: [swinog] swinog Digest, Vol 70, Issue 21

Hi,


Can i know where are all impcat for those changes.

 From: swinog-requ...@lists.swinog.ch
 Subject: swinog Digest, Vol 70, Issue 21
 To: swinog@lists.swinog.ch
 Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2010 12:00:01 +0100

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 Message: 1
 Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2010 13:38:53 +
 From: Joe Abley joe.ab...@icann.org
 Subject: [swinog] Planned IP6.ARPA Nameserver Change
 To: swinog@lists.swinog.ch
 Message-ID: e1plc2h-000ibn...@monster.hopcount.ca

 PLANNED IP6.ARPA NAMESERVER CHANGE

 This is a courtesy notification of an upcoming change to the
 nameserver set for the IP6.ARPA zone.

 There is no expected impact on the functional operation of the DNS
 due to this change.

 There are no actions required by DNS server operators or end users.

 DETAIL

 The IP6.ARPA zone is used to provide reverse mapping (number to
 name) for IPv6, as described in RFC 3152. The servers which currently
 provide authoritative DNS service for the IP6.ARPA zone are as
 follows:

 TINNIE.ARIN.NET
 NS-SEC.RIPE.NET
 NS2.LACNIC.NET
 SEC1.APNIC.NET
 NS.ICANN.ORG

 On Wednesday 2010-12-01 processing will begin to change the nameserver
 set to the following, as described in RFC 5855:

 A.IP6-SERVERS.ARPA (operated by ARIN)
 B.IP6-SERVERS.ARPA (operated by ICANN)
 C.IP6-SERVERS.ARPA (operated by AfriNIC)
 D.IP6-SERVERS.ARPA (operated by LACNIC)
 E.IP6-SERVERS.ARPA (operated by APNIC)
 F.IP6-SERVERS.ARPA (operated by RIPE NCC)

 The usual IANA process for a change in the ARPA zone involves a
 series of technical checks and the gathering of various authorisations,
 and may take several days to complete. Courtesy notification will
 be sent to this list once this change has been fully implemented.

 Regards,


 Joe Abley
 Director DNS Operations
 ICANN




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Re: [swinog] swinog Digest, Vol 70, Issue 10

[Matthias Maass]

Perhaps DNS-Manager from 4PSA: 
http://www.4psa.com/index.php?pcat=productspag=4psadnsmanager


Gruss

Matthias 

weblink GmbH
Letzigraben 77
CH-8003 Zürich
Tel: 0848 00 88 66 (Ortstarif)
Tel: +41 (0)43 443 59 83
Fax: 043 443 59 85
Email: matthias.ma...@weblink.ch
Internet: www.weblink.ch 



 -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
 Von: swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch [mailto:swinog-
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 Gesendet: Freitag, 12. November 2010 12:00
 An: swinog@lists.swinog.ch
 Betreff: swinog Digest, Vol 70, Issue 10
 
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1. Re: Self-care DNS management solution (Stanislav Sinyagin)
 
 
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 Message: 1
 Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 05:48:26 -0800 (PST)
 From: Stanislav Sinyagin ssinya...@yahoo.com
 Subject: Re: [swinog] Self-care DNS management solution
 To: swi...@swinog.ch
 Message-ID: 372138.91230...@web51907.mail.re2.yahoo.com
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
 
 actually an outsourced managed service would be preferable.
 
 
 
 
 - Original Message 
  From: Stanislav Sinyagin ssinya...@yahoo.com
  To: swi...@swinog.ch
  Sent: Thu, November 11, 2010 12:38:48 PM
  Subject: [swinog] Self-care DNS management solution
 
  hi,
 
  I'm looking for a solution (standalone software or an outsourced
  service) with
 
  the following requirements:
 
  -- Leased-line customers  manage PTR records for their IPv4 and IPv6
 address  blocks
  -- They also  manage A, AAA, and other possible records in their
 domains
  -- Northbound  system manages the customer accounts, their domains,
 and allocated
 
  IP  address space
  -- Scalability to 1 customer accounts
 
 
  The system  should require as little as possible manual interaction.
 
  Your suggestions  will be appreciated.
 
  cheers,
  stan
  +41 79 407  0224
 
 
 
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Re: [swinog] SwiNOG #21 - Call for Presentations and Papers (registration will close soon)

[Steven Glogger]

hi everyone

 

just a short reminder:

registration will close tomorrow evening ,-)

if you’re not yet registred – hurry up ,-)

 

http://www.swinog.ch/meetings/swinog21/index.asp

 

-steven

 

Von: swinog ML Im Auftrag von Steven Glogger
Gesendet: Freitag, 15. Oktober 2010 18:53
An: swinog ML 
Betreff: Re: [swinog] SwiNOG #21 - Call for Presentations and Papers

 

hi everyone

 

this is just a reminder for all those,which are not yet registered.

the agenda has been published last week:

 

08h15 09h00: Registration, Coffee  Gipfeli

 

09h00 09h15: Welcome: Pascal Gloor (SwiNOG)

09h15 09h45: Brocade (sponsor)

09h45 10h15: Network management mit OpenNMS:  Ronny Trommer  Alexander Finger

10h15 10h45: Coffee Break: 

10h45 11h15: Cisco (sponsor)

11h15 11h45: Native IPv6 via xDSL - How to tweak your LNS:  Fredy KŸnzler 
(Init7)

11h45 12h00: IX-Update Equinix:  John Taylor (Equinix)

12h00 12h15: DE-CIX/ALP-IX/WORK-IX Update:  Arnold Nipper (DE-CIX Management 
GmbH)

 

12h15 14h00: Buffet Lunch

 

14h00 14h30: Global Crossing (sponsor)

14h30 15h00: IPv6 support in OSS SQL Databases:  Martin Blapp

15h00 15h15: An optics life Ð predict the D-day:  Thomas Weible (Flexoptix GmbH)

15h15 15h45: Break

15h45 16h15: BGP Origin ASN Validation:  Roque Gagliano (Cisco)

16h15 16h45: How Akamai delivers your packets - the insight:  Christian 
Kaufmann (Akamai)

16h45 17h15: Security - DDOS Mitigation - AntiSpam:  Jeroen Massar (IBM Zurich 
Research Laboratory)

 

17h15 19h00: Social Event

 

please note that registration closes 31.10.2010.

 

greetings  see you all at SwiNOG #21!

 

-steven

 

Von: swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch [mailto:swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch] Im 
Auftrag von Pascal Gloor
Gesendet: Montag, 23. August 2010 17:57
An: swi...@swinog.ch
Betreff: [swinog] SwiNOG #21 - Call for Presentations and Papers
Wichtigkeit: Hoch

 

The 21st meeting of the Swiss Network Operators Group (SwiNOG) will be held in 
Berne on top of the Gurten on November 11th 2010.


Important Dates for SwiNOG#21
---

For participants:
 - registration from 01.09.2010 until 31.10.2010
 - final publication of agenda, 14.10.2010

For presentations:
 - call for papers from 23.08.2010 until 24.09.2010
 - deadline for receipt of final slides, 05.11.2010

Meeting day: 11.11.2010


Topics for Presentations/Talks
---

The number and length of presentations per session is not fixed, although due 
to time constraints we would prefer the length of the presentations to be 
between 10 to 45 minutes.

However proposals for longer/shorter presentations or presentations whose 
subject falls outside of the topics below are also welcome; please do not 
hesitate to submit them.

Here is a non-exhaustive list of typical SwiNOG meeting topics:

 - Security - DDOS Mitigation - AntiSpam
 - IPv6
 - Open Source tools
 - International view of the internet (incidents, outages, measurements)
 - Routing
 - Server applications (DNS, Web, etc.)
 - Legal issues (BÜPF, etc.)
 - Telecommunication polictics (Net Neutrality, Incumbent monopoly, etc.)


Language of Slides and Talks
---

The whole day will be held in English, therefore we kindly ask you to produce 
your presentation in English.


Submission Guidelines
---

All submissions must have a strong technical bias and must not be solely 
promotional for your employer.

Please remember that your presentations should be suitable for a target 
audience of technicians from varied backgrounds, working for companies whose 
sizes may vary considerably.

To submit a proposal for a presentation, we request that you provide the 
following information to swinog-c...@swinog.ch:

* the name of the presenter (and if applicable your affiliation)
* a working email address
* the name and number of the topic which will contain the presentation
* the title of the presentation
* its expected length (in minutes)
* a short abstract of the presentation (so we know what it is about)

We also welcome suggestions for specific presentations which you feel would be 
valuable to the SwiNOG community.

Please be aware that your presentation will be published on the SwiNOG website 
after the event. We can publish modified slides if requested - it might be that 
some confidential data will be presented by you which are not intended for 
publication on the internet.


Greetings,
Pascal Gloor
SwiNOG Core Team


General Information (SwiNOG Community)
---

The Swiss Network Operators Group (SwiNOG) is an informal group of people who 
are concerned with engineering and operation of the Swiss Internet.

SwiNOG exists to enhance the quality of Internet services available in 
Switzerland. It does this by fostering the free exchange of technical ideas and 
information between different companies

Re: [swinog] SwiNOG #21 - Call for Presentations and Papers

[Steven Glogger]

hi everyone

 

this is just a reminder for all those,which are not yet registered.

the agenda has been published last week:

 

08h15 09h00: Registration, Coffee  Gipfeli

 

09h00 09h15: Welcome: Pascal Gloor (SwiNOG)

09h15 09h45: Brocade (sponsor)

09h45 10h15: Network management mit OpenNMS:  Ronny Trommer  Alexander Finger

10h15 10h45: Coffee Break: 

10h45 11h15: Cisco (sponsor)

11h15 11h45: Native IPv6 via xDSL - How to tweak your LNS:  Fredy KŸnzler 
(Init7)

11h45 12h00: IX-Update Equinix:  John Taylor (Equinix)

12h00 12h15: DE-CIX/ALP-IX/WORK-IX Update:  Arnold Nipper (DE-CIX Management 
GmbH)

 

12h15 14h00: Buffet Lunch

 

14h00 14h30: Global Crossing (sponsor)

14h30 15h00: IPv6 support in OSS SQL Databases:  Martin Blapp

15h00 15h15: An optics life Ð predict the D-day:  Thomas Weible (Flexoptix GmbH)

15h15 15h45: Break

15h45 16h15: BGP Origin ASN Validation:  Roque Gagliano (Cisco)

16h15 16h45: How Akamai delivers your packets - the insight:  Christian 
Kaufmann (Akamai)

16h45 17h15: Security - DDOS Mitigation - AntiSpam:  Jeroen Massar (IBM Zurich 
Research Laboratory)

 

17h15 19h00: Social Event

 

please note that registration closes 31.10.2010.

 

greetings  see you all at SwiNOG #21!

 

-steven

 

Von: swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch [mailto:swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch] Im 
Auftrag von Pascal Gloor
Gesendet: Montag, 23. August 2010 17:57
An: swi...@swinog.ch
Betreff: [swinog] SwiNOG #21 - Call for Presentations and Papers
Wichtigkeit: Hoch

 

The 21st meeting of the Swiss Network Operators Group (SwiNOG) will be held in 
Berne on top of the Gurten on November 11th 2010.


Important Dates for SwiNOG#21
---

For participants:
 - registration from 01.09.2010 until 31.10.2010
 - final publication of agenda, 14.10.2010

For presentations:
 - call for papers from 23.08.2010 until 24.09.2010
 - deadline for receipt of final slides, 05.11.2010

Meeting day: 11.11.2010


Topics for Presentations/Talks
---

The number and length of presentations per session is not fixed, although due 
to time constraints we would prefer the length of the presentations to be 
between 10 to 45 minutes.

However proposals for longer/shorter presentations or presentations whose 
subject falls outside of the topics below are also welcome; please do not 
hesitate to submit them.

Here is a non-exhaustive list of typical SwiNOG meeting topics:

 - Security - DDOS Mitigation - AntiSpam
 - IPv6
 - Open Source tools
 - International view of the internet (incidents, outages, measurements)
 - Routing
 - Server applications (DNS, Web, etc.)
 - Legal issues (BÜPF, etc.)
 - Telecommunication polictics (Net Neutrality, Incumbent monopoly, etc.)


Language of Slides and Talks
---

The whole day will be held in English, therefore we kindly ask you to produce 
your presentation in English.


Submission Guidelines
---

All submissions must have a strong technical bias and must not be solely 
promotional for your employer.

Please remember that your presentations should be suitable for a target 
audience of technicians from varied backgrounds, working for companies whose 
sizes may vary considerably.

To submit a proposal for a presentation, we request that you provide the 
following information to swinog-c...@swinog.ch:

* the name of the presenter (and if applicable your affiliation)
* a working email address
* the name and number of the topic which will contain the presentation
* the title of the presentation
* its expected length (in minutes)
* a short abstract of the presentation (so we know what it is about)

We also welcome suggestions for specific presentations which you feel would be 
valuable to the SwiNOG community.

Please be aware that your presentation will be published on the SwiNOG website 
after the event. We can publish modified slides if requested - it might be that 
some confidential data will be presented by you which are not intended for 
publication on the internet.


Greetings,
Pascal Gloor
SwiNOG Core Team


General Information (SwiNOG Community)
---

The Swiss Network Operators Group (SwiNOG) is an informal group of people who 
are concerned with engineering and operation of the Swiss Internet.

SwiNOG exists to enhance the quality of Internet services available in 
Switzerland. It does this by fostering the free exchange of technical ideas and 
information between different companies and organisations.

SwiNOG is a community for professionals who are operating, designing or 
researching the Internet. It provides a technical forum where those working on, 
with and for the Internet can come together to solve problems with every aspect 
of their (net)work.

The meeting is designed to provide an opportunity for the exchange of 
information among network 

Re: [swinog] swinog Digest, Vol 65, Issue 11

[shibu shibu]

culd be the reason bakend backborn or blocking firewall,

 

check ladbalancer is working properly
 
 From: swinog-requ...@lists.swinog.ch
 Subject: swinog Digest, Vol 65, Issue 11
 To: swinog@lists.swinog.ch
 Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 02:12:02 +0200
 
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 Today's Topics:
 
 1. Re: www.eda.admin.ch down? (Linus Wegmann)
 2. Re: www.eda.admin.ch down? (Gregory Agerba)
 3. Re: www.eda.admin.ch down? (Linus Wegmann)
 
 
 --
 
 Message: 1
 Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 01:14:25 +0200
 From: Linus Wegmann linus.wegm...@gmx.ch
 Subject: Re: [swinog] www.eda.admin.ch down?
 To: Gregory Agerba gregory.age...@gmail.com, swi...@swinog.ch
 Message-ID: 4c180951.50...@gmx.ch
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
 
 Thanks Gregory
 
 but why is there no reply for an ICMP request?
 it sounds to me like no service is running on that server
 
 good night to all!
 Linus
 
  Original Message 
 Subject: Re: [swinog] www.eda.admin.ch down?
 From: Gregory Agerba gregory.age...@gmail.com
 To: Linus Wegmann linus.wegm...@gmx.ch
 Date: 16.06.2010 01:04
  Arnold meant on server side, not on your side. The server accepts the 
  connection, so there must be some software issue on the Confederation 
  application side.
 
  'night
 
  Gregory
 
  2010/6/16 Linus Wegmann linus.wegm...@gmx.ch 
  mailto:linus.wegm...@gmx.ch
 
  Hi Arnold
  thanks for your reply
  but it stilll doesn't work
 
  li...@tuxilap2:pts/4:~ ping www.eda.admin.ch
  http://www.eda.admin.ch
  PING dmzwg1-003.eda.admin.ch http://dmzwg1-003.eda.admin.ch
  (162.23.6.139) 56(84) bytes of data.
  ^C
  --- dmzwg1-003.eda.admin.ch http://dmzwg1-003.eda.admin.ch ping
  statistics ---
  16 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 14999ms
 
  li...@tuxilap2:pts/4:~ telnet www.eda.admin.ch
  http://www.eda.admin.ch 80
 
  Trying 162.23.6.139...
  Connected to dmzwg1-003.eda.admin.ch http://dmzwg1-003.eda.admin.ch.
  Escape character is '^]'.
  Connection closed by foreign host.
 
  what am I doing wrong?
 
  Linus
 
 
 
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 Tel. +41 81 740 24 75
 Mobile +41 76 563 90 21
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 Message: 2
 Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 01:22:58 +0200
 From: Gregory Agerba gregory.age...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [swinog] www.eda.admin.ch down?
 To: Linus Wegmann linus.wegm...@gmx.ch
 Cc: swi...@swinog.ch
 Message-ID:
 aanlktimib9bqvoa51srpiytsruegm2pxpoy49vrnz...@mail.gmail.com
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
 
 Linus,
 
 It is not because ICMP does not reply that the server is down or having an
 issue :-)
 
 Often it is blocked to avoid security risks or for other reasons... If you
 check www.admin.ch, it won't answer ping but will work correctly. The only
 way to know if the server work is to actually establish a proper connection
 on the port 80 / 443 and make sure you get the content of the page you
 expected as you expected.
 
 This is probably a matter of software issue (anything from loadbalancer, to
 backend server daemon not working or any other error...).
 
 Cheers,
 
 Gregory
 
 
 
 2010/6/16 Linus Wegmann linus.wegm...@gmx.ch
 
  Thanks Gregory
 
  but why is there no reply for an ICMP request?
  it sounds to me like no service is running on that server
 
  good night to all!
 
  Linus
 
   Original Message 
  Subject: Re: [swinog] www.eda.admin.ch down?
  From: Gregory Agerba gregory.age...@gmail.com
  To: Linus Wegmann linus.wegm...@gmx.ch
  Date: 16.06.2010 01:04
 
  Arnold meant on server side, not on your side. The server accepts the
  connection, so there must be some software issue on the Confederation
  application side.
 
  'night
 
  Gregory
 
  2010/6/16 Linus Wegmann linus.wegm...@gmx.ch mailto:
  linus.wegm...@gmx.ch
 
 
  Hi Arnold
  thanks for your reply
  but it stilll doesn't work
 
  li...@tuxilap2:pts/4:~ ping www.eda.admin.ch
  http://www.eda.admin.ch
  PING dmzwg1-003.eda.admin.ch http://dmzwg1-003.eda.admin.ch
 
  (162.23.6.139) 56(84) bytes of data.
  ^C
  --- dmzwg1-003.eda.admin.ch http://dmzwg1-003.eda.admin.ch ping
 
  statistics ---
  16 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 14999ms
 
  li...@tuxilap2:pts/4:~ telnet www.eda.admin.ch
  http://www.eda.admin.ch 80
 
 
  Trying 162.23.6.139...
  Connected to dmzwg1-003.eda.admin.ch http://dmzwg1-003.eda.admin.ch.
 
  Escape character is '^]'.
  Connection closed by 

Re: [swinog] SwiNOG-20 Registration is OPEN !

[Steven Glogger]

Hurry up, if you still want to participate! ,-)
Registration deadline: 25 May 2010 23:59
Then registration will be closed.

-steven

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Im Auftrag von Pascal Gloor
Gesendet: Freitag, 7. Mai 2010 10:08
An: swi...@swinog.ch
Betreff: [swinog] SwiNOG-20 Registration is OPEN !


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/!\Please read the entire mail before registering. /!\
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Dear SwiNOG community,

The SwiNOG Organisation is pleased to announce the next SwiNOG event.



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# New Place in Berne!
##

We've decided for SwiNOG #20 to go to a new location. After some months
evaluation we've decided to give Gurten Park in Berne a try. 

Location: http://www.gurtenpark.ch/gurten/uebersichtstafel_gurtenpark.pdf
  http://map.search.ch/index.en.html?all=gurtenparkfirma=1z=1024

The meeting will be held at  UPtown ('1' on the map).



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# Arrival  Journey
##

From Berne main station to the Gurtenbahn it takes around

- 10 minutes by S-Bahn (number S3) to Wabern
- 20 minutes by tram (number 9) to Wabern, Gurtenbahn

Time table Bern Mobil:

http://www.bernmobil.ch/fahrplan/fahrplan/hst.php?hst=60#



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# Gurtenbahn
##

The tickets for the Gurtenbahn are already paid.
You don't need to buy any additional ticket.
The tickets can be obtained at the cash desk of the Gurtenbahn.
Just mention that you're coming for the SwiNOG Event.

Schedule:

07.30 to 11.00 all 30 minutes.
Details see: http://www.gurtenbahn.ch/d/fahrplan/
It takes around 10 Minutes from the base-station to the meeting-location.



##
# Important information
##

- You still need to register online in advance.

- There is an event fee of 75 CHF which includes the lunch. We're sorry
about raising again the fee, but we try to allow more than 100 people
to our event - by doing this our costs are 2-3x higher... :(

- If we don't get your payment within 5 days you will get a warning
by email. If we still don't get your payment a few days later your
registration will be dropped and you don't need to pay the invoice.

- Once we get your payment, you will receive a confirmation by email.
If you have paid and don't get a confirmation within 5-6 days, make
sure to  bring a payment proof with you (we don't need a legal document,
a print screen  of an online payment is fine).

- If you show up at the event without prior registration or payment,
you still have the possibility to join the event for 100 CHF, but
only if there are free seats.

- There is NO refund policy, but you may give your seat to someone
else. Just send us an email so we know about it.



##
# Event Detail
##

(if you scrolled down here just to get the registration link, go back and
read the mail!)


Event: SwiNOG #20
Place: Gurtenpark, Berne
Date: 1st of June 2010
Fee: 75 CHF online, 100 CHF at the event (only if seats are available)
Registration: http://register.swinog.ch
Registration deadline: 25 May 2010 23:59
Seats available: 200
Agenda: http://www.swinog.ch/meetings/swinog20/swinog20_agenda-txt.txt


We would already like to thank our sponsors by enabling us to provide you
this event.

Main sponsor:  ESET 
Social event:  T-Systems / DTAG
Wireless LAN:  Swisscom (Schweiz) AG



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Thank you for reading the mail and we look forward to see you at SwiNOG #20!

Pascal Gloor
President
SwiNOG Organisation
Email: swinog-core at swinog dot ch



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