RE: [Syslog] AD Review for draft-ietf-syslog-transport-tls

2007-02-07 Thread Miao Fuyou
Yes, peer entity authentication is seperate from integrity, this is addressed in section 3 of the current document. Client only authenticaiton is not available in TLS, so I think it is safe to say peer entity authention instead of sender authenticaiton. Probably it is appropriate to say

Re: [Syslog] AD Review for draft-ietf-syslog-transport-tls

2007-02-07 Thread robert . horn
transport-tls should be designed to enable policy decisions. This group is not able to make policy decisions. Some of this discussion is really policy making. Policy discussions within syslog should be oriented towards ensuring that any reasonable policy can be properly supported. For

Re: [Syslog] AD Review for draft-ietf-syslog-transport-tls

2007-02-07 Thread Sam Hartman
It sounds like trust anchor selection (what security people talk about when the rest of the world talks about set of root CAs) is actually very important to you. It's just that you don't actually consider the traditional root CAs part of your trust anchor set; you have a much smaller trust anchor

Re: [Syslog] AD Review for draft-ietf-syslog-transport-tls

2007-02-07 Thread robert . horn
Correct. So I just need to make sure that the various MUST/SHALL/SHOULD/etc decisions continue to support our policy needs. I suspect that a diversity of trust anchor sets and a diversity of trust purposes will be increasing in the authentication process when people start making operational use

[Syslog] FW: draft-ietf-syslog-protocol: Reliable delivery consideredharmful.

2007-02-07 Thread David Harrington
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[Syslog] FW: draft-ietf-syslog-protocol: Reliable delivery consideredharmful.

2007-02-07 Thread David Harrington
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[Syslog] FW: draft-ietf-syslog-protocol: Reliable delivery consideredharmful.

2007-02-07 Thread David Harrington
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[Syslog] FW: draft-ietf-syslog-protocol: Reliable delivery consideredharmful.

2007-02-07 Thread David Harrington
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[Syslog] FW: draft-ietf-syslog-protocol: Reliable delivery consideredharmful.

2007-02-07 Thread David Harrington
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[Syslog] Chris

2007-02-07 Thread David Harrington
Hi, FYI. Chris is travelling heavily for work at this point, so has not had time to participate much in the recent discussions. He begs your indulgence, and hopes to get back into participation mode in the next few weeks. David Harrington [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[Syslog] Mib issues and resolutions

2007-02-07 Thread David Harrington
Hi Glenn and Alex, Can you provide a quick summary for the WG of the issues that have been raised regarding the mib document and the sign document since the beginning of the WGLC (which started 9-11-06 and 8-28-06 respectively), pointers to the threads where discussions of the issues were held,

Re: [Syslog] Mib issues and resolutions

2007-02-07 Thread Glenn M. Keeni
Hi David, Got it. I will prepare the summary and mail it - tentatively by 16/2. Thanks and cheers Glenn David Harrington wrote: Hi Glenn and Alex, Can you provide a quick summary for the WG of the issues that have been raised regarding the mib document and the sign document