On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 7:37 PM, Tom Gundersen t...@jklm.no wrote:
On 30 May 2014 18:25, Cristian Rodríguez crrodrig...@opensuse.org wrote:
El 30/05/14 13:08, Greg KH escribió:
On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 08:54:22PM -0400, Cristian Rodríguez wrote:
As discussed ad-nauseum previously, it is the
On 01/06/14 08:45, Lennart Poettering wrote:
On Fri, 30.05.14 04:32, Michael Biebl (mbi...@gmail.com) wrote:
2014-05-30 4:26 GMT+02:00 Greg KH gre...@linuxfoundation.org:
You update systemd but you don't update the kernel? How does that make
any sense?
There might be very valid reasons
On Sun, 01.06.14 09:10, Samuli Suominen (ssuomi...@gentoo.org) wrote:
Also note that at that point we intend to move udev onto kdbus as
transport, and get rid of the userspace-to-userspace netlink-based
tranport udev used so far. Unless the systemd-haters prepare another
kdbus userspace
On Fri, 30.05.14 04:32, Michael Biebl (mbi...@gmail.com) wrote:
2014-05-30 4:26 GMT+02:00 Greg KH gre...@linuxfoundation.org:
You update systemd but you don't update the kernel? How does that make
any sense?
There might be very valid reasons why you need to stick with the old
El vie 30 may 2014 01:41:37 CLT, Samuli Suominen escribió:
On 30/05/14 04:55, Greg KH wrote:
On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 03:40:52AM +0200, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 08:54:22PM -0400, Cristian Rodríguez wrote:
As discussed ad-nauseum previously, it is the kernel's
On 30 May 2014 03:10, Michael Biebl mbi...@gmail.com wrote:
2014-05-30 3:55 GMT+02:00 Greg KH gre...@linuxfoundation.org:
On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 03:40:52AM +0200, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
wrote:
On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 08:54:22PM -0400, Cristian Rodríguez wrote:
As discussed
On 30/05/14 09:17, Cristian Rodríguez wrote:
El vie 30 may 2014 01:41:37 CLT, Samuli Suominen escribió:
On 30/05/14 04:55, Greg KH wrote:
On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 03:40:52AM +0200, Zbigniew
Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 08:54:22PM -0400, Cristian Rodríguez wrote:
As
On 05/30/2014 02:51 AM, Greg KH wrote:
On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 04:41:01AM +0200, Michael Biebl wrote:
2014-05-30 4:32 GMT+02:00 Michael Bieblmbi...@gmail.com:
2014-05-30 4:26 GMT+02:00 Greg KHgre...@linuxfoundation.org:
You update systemd but you don't update the kernel? How does that
On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 12:50:50PM +0300, Samuli Suominen wrote:
On 30/05/14 09:17, Cristian Rodríguez wrote:
El vie 30 may 2014 01:41:37 CLT, Samuli Suominen escribió:
On 30/05/14 04:55, Greg KH wrote:
On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 03:40:52AM +0200, Zbigniew
Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
On
On 30/05/14 17:13, Greg KH wrote:
On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 12:50:50PM +0300, Samuli Suominen wrote:
On 30/05/14 09:17, Cristian Rodríguez wrote:
El vie 30 may 2014 01:41:37 CLT, Samuli Suominen escribió:
On 30/05/14 04:55, Greg KH wrote:
On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 03:40:52AM +0200, Zbigniew
On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 06:05:19PM +0300, Samuli Suominen wrote:
On 30/05/14 17:13, Greg KH wrote:
On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 12:50:50PM +0300, Samuli Suominen wrote:
On 30/05/14 09:17, Cristian Rodríguez wrote:
El vie 30 may 2014 01:41:37 CLT, Samuli Suominen escribió:
On 30/05/14 04:55,
On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 08:54:22PM -0400, Cristian Rodríguez wrote:
As discussed ad-nauseum previously, it is the kernel's task
to load firmware, not udev's.
Ok, it turns out there is still one kernel driver that requires this to
work properly, so we can't delete it just yet :(
Now, if the
El 30/05/14 13:08, Greg KH escribió:
On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 08:54:22PM -0400, Cristian Rodríguez wrote:
As discussed ad-nauseum previously, it is the kernel's task
to load firmware, not udev's.
Ok, it turns out there is still one kernel driver that requires this to
work properly, so we
On 30 May 2014 18:25, Cristian Rodríguez crrodrig...@opensuse.org wrote:
El 30/05/14 13:08, Greg KH escribió:
On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 08:54:22PM -0400, Cristian Rodríguez wrote:
As discussed ad-nauseum previously, it is the kernel's task
to load firmware, not udev's.
Ok, it turns out
On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 08:54:22PM -0400, Cristian Rodríguez wrote:
As discussed ad-nauseum previously, it is the kernel's task
to load firmware, not udev's.
I think this patch is a bad idea - it makes things harder for people
who, for whatever reason, good or bad, run older kernels. At the same
On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 08:54:22PM -0400, Cristian Rodríguez wrote:
As discussed ad-nauseum previously, it is the kernel's task
to load firmware, not udev's.
---
Makefile.am | 8
configure.ac| 20
src/udev/udev-builtin.c | 3 ---
On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 03:40:52AM +0200, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 08:54:22PM -0400, Cristian Rodríguez wrote:
As discussed ad-nauseum previously, it is the kernel's task
to load firmware, not udev's.
I think this patch is a bad idea - it makes things harder
El 29/05/14 21:54, Greg KH escribió:
On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 08:54:22PM -0400, Cristian Rodríguez wrote:
As discussed ad-nauseum previously, it is the kernel's task
to load firmware, not udev's.
---
Makefile.am | 8
configure.ac| 20
On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 06:55:10PM -0700, Greg KH wrote:
On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 03:40:52AM +0200, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 08:54:22PM -0400, Cristian Rodríguez wrote:
As discussed ad-nauseum previously, it is the kernel's task
to load firmware, not
2014-05-30 3:55 GMT+02:00 Greg KH gre...@linuxfoundation.org:
On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 03:40:52AM +0200, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 08:54:22PM -0400, Cristian Rodríguez wrote:
As discussed ad-nauseum previously, it is the kernel's task
to load firmware, not
On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 03:59:39AM +0200, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 06:55:10PM -0700, Greg KH wrote:
On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 03:40:52AM +0200, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 08:54:22PM -0400, Cristian Rodríguez wrote:
As
On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 04:10:48AM +0200, Michael Biebl wrote:
2014-05-30 3:55 GMT+02:00 Greg KH gre...@linuxfoundation.org:
On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 03:40:52AM +0200, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 08:54:22PM -0400, Cristian Rodríguez wrote:
As discussed
On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 07:26:47PM -0700, Greg KH wrote:
On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 04:10:48AM +0200, Michael Biebl wrote:
2014-05-30 3:55 GMT+02:00 Greg KH gre...@linuxfoundation.org:
On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 03:40:52AM +0200, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
wrote:
On Thu, May 29, 2014 at
2014-05-30 4:26 GMT+02:00 Greg KH gre...@linuxfoundation.org:
You update systemd but you don't update the kernel? How does that make
any sense?
There might be very valid reasons why you need to stick with the old
kernel. As said, one example could be that the new one simply doesn't
boot.
2014-05-30 4:32 GMT+02:00 Michael Biebl mbi...@gmail.com:
2014-05-30 4:26 GMT+02:00 Greg KH gre...@linuxfoundation.org:
You update systemd but you don't update the kernel? How does that make
any sense?
There might be very valid reasons why you need to stick with the old
kernel. As said,
On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 04:41:01AM +0200, Michael Biebl wrote:
2014-05-30 4:32 GMT+02:00 Michael Biebl mbi...@gmail.com:
2014-05-30 4:26 GMT+02:00 Greg KH gre...@linuxfoundation.org:
You update systemd but you don't update the kernel? How does that make
any sense?
There might be very
On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 07:51:29PM -0700, Greg KH wrote:
On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 04:41:01AM +0200, Michael Biebl wrote:
2014-05-30 4:32 GMT+02:00 Michael Biebl mbi...@gmail.com:
2014-05-30 4:26 GMT+02:00 Greg KH gre...@linuxfoundation.org:
You update systemd but you don't update the
On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 05:00:34AM +0200, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 07:51:29PM -0700, Greg KH wrote:
On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 04:41:01AM +0200, Michael Biebl wrote:
2014-05-30 4:32 GMT+02:00 Michael Biebl mbi...@gmail.com:
2014-05-30 4:26 GMT+02:00 Greg KH
2014-05-30 6:02 GMT+02:00 Greg KH gre...@linuxfoundation.org:
On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 05:00:34AM +0200, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 07:51:29PM -0700, Greg KH wrote:
On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 04:41:01AM +0200, Michael Biebl wrote:
2014-05-30 4:32 GMT+02:00
El 30/05/14 00:17, Michael Biebl escribió:
As a responsible and serious upstream project I expect us to not
gratiously break our downstream users, especially if it can be easily
avoided.
And as already said, the maintenance cost is basically zero.
So your argument is that we should keep code
On 30/05/14 04:55, Greg KH wrote:
On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 03:40:52AM +0200, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 08:54:22PM -0400, Cristian Rodríguez wrote:
As discussed ad-nauseum previously, it is the kernel's task
to load firmware, not udev's.
I think this patch is a
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