is arguably
not a good idea, but perhaps you can hack it in some small way)?
Like I say, just a guess.
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'Twas brillig, and Nikolaus Rath at 11/12/12 16:31 did gyre and gimble:
On 12/11/2012 03:00 AM, Colin Guthrie wrote:
'Twas brillig, and Nikolaus Rath at 10/12/12 19:03 did gyre and gimble:
Hello,
I have created a udev rule to set the owner of a specific block device:
SUBSYSTEM==block,
ENV
'Twas brillig, and Nikolaus Rath at 11/12/12 17:52 did gyre and gimble:
On 12/11/2012 09:47 AM, Colin Guthrie wrote:
'Twas brillig, and Nikolaus Rath at 11/12/12 16:31 did gyre and gimble:
On 12/11/2012 03:00 AM, Colin Guthrie wrote:
'Twas brillig, and Nikolaus Rath at 10/12/12 19:03 did gyre
document everything (tho' perhaps not in quite as nice
a form for a tutorial like need).
IMO, it would be kinda nice to copy all of Lennart's articles to the
Wiki to keep things in a central place (referencing the original blog
story of course). Keeps things a bit more central.
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be started
later.
Yeah this is one of the reasons we switched to dracut from mkinitrd in
Mageia (and in Mandriva too I believe).
If you support / or /usr on LVM, then you really need to run udev in the
initrd. Dracut makes that nice and easy.
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works these days I think and it seems robust enough)
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Failed to issue method call: Unit cvs.service not loaded.
You can control individual units doing:
systemctl stop cvs@foo.service (where @foo matches what systemctl
list-units returns).
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and not rely
on doing it at package install).
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'Twas brillig, and Lennart Poettering at 07/01/13 13:37 did gyre and gimble:
On Mon, 07.01.13 11:48, Colin Guthrie (gm...@colin.guthr.ie) wrote:
Hi,
Just thinking outload here as dealing with some packages where stuff in
/etc was marked in the spec as %config and it really shouldn't be (I'm
if
possible (it's just writing an svg? It's just XML why does it need a
whole python backend??) and more useful information about timeouts and
failed jobs etc. etc.
So all I humbly ask here is that plotting from a normal, non-bootcharted
boot is still kept around.
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if [ -n $SYSTEMCTL_IGNORE_DEPENDENCIES ] ; then
options=$options --ignore-dependencies
fi
if [ -n $SYSTEMCTL_NO_BLOCK ] ; then
options=$options --no-block
fi
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is where it should be handled (as is
done in the initscripts wrapper), but hey ho' - everyone prefers it done
elsewhere.
At least it's a relatively neat patch and hopefully it's need within
Suse will disappear as the tools are refactored anyway?
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!), but if What Andrey says is correct would this mean we
cannot have two separate installs without sharing the same /boot? (or
even a Windows install assuming it uses that space too?). Can you
comment on those kind of set ups?
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what you mean by GUI here. Isn't it just GDM that pops up (or
some other DE)? If so, I guess that's where you need to focus.
Apologies if I've gotten the wrong end of the stick.
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'Twas brillig, and Lennart Poettering at 22/01/13 22:11 did gyre and gimble:
Heya,
I just learned that a number of systemd downstream and upstream folks
are attending FOSDEM. We'll at least have Michael Biebl, Tollef Fog
Heen, Colin Guthrie, Kay Sievers, Harald Hoyer and myself around.
We
vs. 1 correct.
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the service not to be
able to access this folder when reading the service, but AFAIUI, this
would actually not be the case.
I could be wrong of course and even if not it's maybe still acceptable
behaviour.
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-XX.
There may be valid reasons for not doing this, but when debugging things
and poking about as root user it might add a little bit of clarity when
several such folders exist (of course slight obfuscation here may be
deliberate)
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for the problem already exist - better just to
use them.
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The getty@.service used to specifically enable a getty@tty1.service
under getty.target when enabled.
Modern versions of systemd allow commands such as:
systemctl enable getty@tty2.service
which automatically create the correct symlink if the
Install rule permits it.
This changes the default
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'Twas brillig, and Kay Sievers at 08/02/13 11:21 did gyre and gimble:
On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 12:05 PM, Colin Guthrie gm...@colin.guthr.ie wrote:
'Twas brillig, and Kok, Auke-jan H at 08/02/13 08:04 did gyre and gimble:
On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 3:38 PM, Lennart Poettering
lenn...@poettering.net
On some really old hardware, the default timeout of 120 (which may even
be reduced further on the command line) is insufficient.
While such cases are specialist and (nowadays) relatively rare, it is
still nice to be able to provide a method to increase the timeout
when needed.
Bug Link:
'Twas brillig, and Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek at 08/02/13 12:14 did
gyre and gimble:
On Fri, Feb 08, 2013 at 11:48:36AM +, Colin Guthrie wrote:
On some really old hardware, the default timeout of 120 (which may even
be reduced further on the command line) is insufficient.
While
'Twas brillig, and Ian Pilcher at 08/02/13 21:00 did gyre and gimble:
On 02/07/2013 06:13 AM, Colin Guthrie wrote:
Also re the initscripts tweaks and the if statement proposed in the bug,
there is a SYSTEMCTL_IGNORE_DEPENDENCIES=1 env var you can export that
will make service openvswitch start
), and ditto for udev rules
etc. I'm very much trying to promote a tidy /etc these days :)
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'Twas brillig, and Lennart Poettering at 13/02/13 03:13 did gyre and gimble:
On Wed, 06.02.13 09:47, Colin Guthrie (co...@mageia.org) wrote:
The getty@.service used to specifically enable a getty@tty1.service
under getty.target when enabled.
Modern versions of systemd allow commands
'Twas brillig, and Thomas Bächler at 13/02/13 10:01 did gyre and gimble:
Am 13.02.2013 10:29, schrieb Colin Guthrie:
Hmm, but what happens then if people do run
systemctl enable getty@.service?
In my eyes, doing this always seemed wrong, I wouldn't mind if it
returned an error.
Yeah, I'm
'Twas brillig, and Lennart Poettering at 13/02/13 03:06 did gyre and gimble:
On Tue, 12.02.13 14:07, Thomas Graf (tg...@redhat.com) wrote:
On 02/07/2013 04:55 PM, Ian Pilcher wrote:
On 02/07/2013 06:13 AM, Colin Guthrie wrote:
Also re the initscripts tweaks and the if statement proposed
:
systemctl status pl_sysinit.service
??
If the ExecStartPre somehow returns non-zero, then ExecStart will not be
run.
The status output will tell you the return status of the ExecStartPre
command.
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know about install-foo
but I would hope such people are fairly competent and know at least
roughly what they are doing before taking such action anyway
Obviously a better name than foo is needed. install-bootstrap?.
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in with your world view or not is obviously a
different story... but then, hey, aren't hostnames themselves
technically absolutely not needed. An IP address should be sufficient.
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that point (even when the mount is generated from fstab).
Alternatively, would it make sense to teach the fstab generator some
kind of x-system-* option (or comment= syntax) to allow -after or
-requires deps to be specified.
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, but that's not to say that performance isn't a goal in the
completeness of time. Also there will be lots of people for whom this is
more of a priority right now and thus they will be the ones perhaps
contributing the patches to help edge things in that direction :)
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Or you can configure the journal to not capture coredumps at all, either
via a compile time option or a sysctl tweak (kernel.core_pattern I think).
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with systemd. You may find some examples of units for
dhclients that some people have created for their custom setups however.
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end-users - lack of information when something goes
wrong during boot.
Yup, very nice indeed :)
How does it integrate with Plymouth? IThat most users will have it and
not plain console.
Good question :)
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example hasn't been
needed for me for ages, but I'm sure there are other examples that might
be more legitimate.
That said, I think Fred had patches that are applied in Suse to read
these pm-utils hooks anyway, so that might be what Cristian needs?
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For the benefit of the list, these patches were posted separately and
have been applied (if my fuzzy head has read the list properly!).
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backwater logging system buried in a
basement somewhere :)
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.
Regarding specifier support in Alias, this is somewhat relevant the
discussion in the thread [PATCH] units: Make getty@.service install
rule generic not identical by any means but related.
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the best!
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a -q argument or look for silent on
/proc/cmdline) or can we add some kind of fugly heuristic to the
systemd-fsck that silently swallows the output if it consists of a
single line which has the string : clean, and there is silent on the
command line?
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'Twas brillig, and Kay Sievers at 13/03/13 11:50 did gyre and gimble:
On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 11:29 AM, Colin Guthrie gm...@colin.guthr.ie wrote:
As I'm doing some initrd-less experiments of late I'm seeing an ugly
fsck message pop up on boot.
In systemd-fsck-root.service I see
- if it was failing then,
yes, I'd like to see that, but having some text pop up during my nice
graphical boot just looks totally wrong (obviously).
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CPUs and rotating disks. Maybe
developers should be forced to hack on such machines only. :)
That's likely too cruel. Maybe just hack one day a week on such machines :)
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contain any information about
ordering etc. In an ideal world, everything wanted by multi-user.target
would all be started in parallel. In practice, we typically want some
degree of ordering, and that's what the Before= and After= directives
are about.
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`org.freedesktop.systemd1.Manager.xml'.
while `systemd' is still being made.
Confirmed two builds of systemd 198 before that patch broke for me, and
two builds after that patch worked fine.
Thanks for the info :)
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not have a space after it before it's parenthesis.
Of course it's trivial for someone to do both those things above when
merging, but. :)
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in any shape or form :)
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destination of the symlink doesn't matter at all, it's purely the unit
name that counts. Is that the case?
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baked into the kernel itself, but it _should_ really work with a module
too...
Relevant kernel config:
CONFIG_EFI_PARTITION=y
CONFIG_EFI=y
CONFIG_EFI_STUB=y
CONFIG_FB_EFI=y
CONFIG_EFI_VARS=m
CONFIG_EFI_VARS_PSTORE=y
CONFIG_EFI_VARS_PSTORE_DEFAULT_DISABLE=y
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'Twas brillig, and Greg KH at 09/04/13 00:48 did gyre and gimble:
On Tue, Apr 09, 2013 at 12:02:09AM +0100, Colin Guthrie wrote:
Hi,
Seems on my system, I have to load the module efivars before I can
mount my efivarfs (mount -t efivarfs efivarfs /sys/firmware/efi/efivars)
Now, systemd
'Twas brillig, and Tom Gundersen at 09/04/13 10:22 did gyre and gimble:
On 9 Apr 2013 01:48, Greg KH gre...@linuxfoundation.org
mailto:gre...@linuxfoundation.org wrote:
On Tue, Apr 09, 2013 at 12:02:09AM +0100, Colin Guthrie wrote:
Hi,
Seems on my system, I have to load the module
which avoids the design flaws inherent with the
previously approach.
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'Twas brillig, and Reindl Harald at 11/04/13 11:55 did gyre and gimble:
Am 11.04.2013 12:41, schrieb Colin Guthrie:
'Twas brillig, and Andrey Borzenkov at 11/04/13 10:25 did gyre and gimble:
On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 2:50 AM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net
wrote:
/usr/share/doc
to be a little pragmatic here (the code is not
*that* hard to maintain), but I do also prefer the fix things with the
right design philosophy generally. Ultimately the decision lies with
Kay, so he's the one you have to convince!
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'Twas brillig, and Kay Sievers at 11/04/13 12:51 did gyre and gimble:
On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 1:46 PM, Colin Guthrie gm...@colin.guthr.ie wrote:
Should we then consider trying to push a new default name scheme into
the kernel side such that they come up as eth-ng0 etc. by default
allowing
be a matter of creating a .service unit with
appropriate ExecStart/Stop directives and then add a BindTo= directive
to bind it to the device.
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mostly playing devils advocate here. I do kinda like the fact it's
in there personally, but then I like shiny things.
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under
nspawn but I thought that was the primary difference between halt and
poweroff
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if systemd can manage, or how a custom service may look if
not.
Looks like something you could detect with a udev rule somewhere (i.e.
matching on some hw identifier) which in turn spawns the systemd unit.
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3. The birthplace of the socially engineered buffer overflow where
fake articles on defensive programming techniques lured developers into
a false sense of security.
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to be enabled.
I've run `systemd --test --system --unit=multi-user.target` and compared
the wsgw and pianod sections of output and no significant differences
jump out at me.
Perhaps pianod doesn't need the network?
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filesystems would we not? Sounds like a bad idea to me.
All in all I still thing this is better handled by packaging helper scripts.
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laptops screen, just the
external one.
4. I switch to a VT
5. My machine is insta-suspended?
If so then I concur that it needs handled a bit better!
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As some SSDs are still seeing performance degredation when
reaching 85% usage the default value of 5% seems a little low.
Set this to 15% by default.
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So I'm really not sure or educated enough about this one,
but we're recently had a user complain about the disk space
used by the journal.
I
been addressed already.
Documentation patches always welcome :)
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in.
IIRC there were some suse patches that added support for
X-Systemd-Requires: LSB headers that allowed sysv scripts to do that...
that would probably be cleaner as it avoids manual intervention to
configure the system correctly.
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and Documentation= directives would also help a
lot.
Happy to help out here if I can get some feedback on some of the points
above.
Many thanks.
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[Install] section in one of the units).
Any thoughts?
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,
it looks like you might genuinely stick with 203 this time :p
Either way, good work :)
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'Twas brillig, and Steve Dickson at 08/05/13 11:58 did gyre and gimble:
On 06/05/13 05:27, Colin Guthrie wrote:
Hi,
Just trying to work out a few problems on our (Mageia's) NFS packages.
As with a lot of things we often take the units from Fedora (we will
soon have a nicer way to share
to start prostgres or something similar to that.
I doubt this is an upstream issue tho' (tho' some suse folks will
hopefully see here and answer - added it to the subject for better exposure)
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, and cannot use
hostnamectl yet.
AFAIUI, it's not meant to be 100% shell compatible anyway, so I suspect
the currently behaviour is as intended and will remain.
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'Twas brillig, and Andrey Borzenkov at 21/05/13 11:26 did gyre and gimble:
On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 1:11 PM, Colin Guthrie gm...@colin.guthr.ie wrote:
'Twas brillig, and James Buren at 20/05/13 18:28 did gyre and gimble:
Files such as /etc/machine-info have an incompatibility with systemd
-slot.rules
yes:
net.ifnames=0
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-slot.rules
yes:
net.ifnames=0
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not block?
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'Twas brillig, and Kok, Auke-jan H at 31/05/13 06:27 did gyre and gimble:
You can likely create a timer unit, and start that once...
That's the premise he started with, but it seems to cause a sort of
deadlock... See the first message in the thread.
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lines)
* long options are more user-friendly
... all this is supported since util-linux v2.20 (Aug 2011).
Applied! Thanks.
Aww, pity the util-linux version wasn't corrected first to v2.23 first.
Ahh well as long as people remember... :)
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-.mount is simply not run?
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/gmane.comp.sysutils.systemd.devel/10880/focus=11081
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where /usr and
/ are excluded specifically rather than using the result of the
mount_in_initrd() function.
Any thoughts?
Col
For reference:
https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8322
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'Twas brillig, and Tom Gundersen at 13/06/13 22:40 did gyre and gimble:
On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 11:13 PM, Colin Guthrie gm...@colin.guthr.ie wrote:
If a mount has the x-initrd.mount option shouldn't it be excluded from
the umount loop during shutdown?
Makes sense. Also see the patch [PATCH
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# that is one line, but gmail will probably break it
For more info on this approach see here:
http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/PasswordAgents/
But if Tom is correct (and he usually is) that's probably the simplest
route forward.
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'Twas brillig, and Colin Guthrie at 20/06/13 09:31 did gyre and gimble:
Now for NetworkManager itself this more or less OK. You'll be needing it
pretty much immediately on boot anyway, but what's caught me out a
little bit more is that ModemManager (0.7.991) also follows this same
pattern
RSS TTY STAT START TIME COMMAND
root 418 0.0 0.2 306028 10284 ?Ss May06 12:34
/usr/lib/systemd/systemd-journald
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session required pam_tcb.so
-session optional pam_systemd.so
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'Twas brillig, and Lennart Poettering at 27/08/11 13:53 did gyre and gimble:
On Sat, 27.08.11 13:02, Colin Guthrie (gm...@colin.guthr.ie) wrote:
Hi,
I've run into a problem after the latest udev update.
Is GDM just supposed to use only PAM config[1] to register with
systemd-logind? If so
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