t-and-f: 1600/mile conversions

2001-06-19 Thread GHTFNedit
i accidentally trashed the original before responding, but somebody was asking if x was the right conversion between 1600 and a mile, and cited the old 800/880 conversion. The problem is that there's not really a fixed conversion for any distance; the slower your final time the greater the

t-and-f: Selected results from Germany

2001-06-19 Thread Winfried Kramer
The full results from Kassel, Nuremberg, Ratingen and Mannheim can be found at www.steeple.de. Frank Busemann injured his elbow when throwing the javelin and he is unlikely to compete at Edmonton. Regensburg, 16 June wJT: Nerius 63.72 Bad Langensalza, 16 June LJ: Meliz CUB 7.85 wLJ: Vaszi

t-and-f: Field Event Announcing

2001-06-19 Thread Conning
In a message dated 6/1/01 5:39:21 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 15:46:37 EDT From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: t-and-f: Oregon Abolishes High Jump Actually, Oregon has apparently gone farther than that and banned all field events. As with most

Re: t-and-f: Nationals are Here !!! Aren't they ??

2001-06-19 Thread Conway Hill
Walt wrote: Don't forget that Webb has one less day to rest after running 3:59.8 yesterday in the rain-delayed dmr in Raleigh---he runs the first round of the 1500 on Thursdayand I believe Gatlin is not running in Eugene. Not sure if it was ever posted to the list, but Gatlin

Re: t-and-f: Ryan Wilson

2001-06-19 Thread DLTFNedit
In a message dated Mon, 18 Jun 2001 4:33:44 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Michael Contopoulos [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ryan Wilson, just 2 years ago at 25 years of age ran 13:19 (at Pre I believe) and 7:41 (in February in Australia). These times this year have given Goucher and Kennedy

Re: t-and-f: Webb maybe top 3 at USATF 1500... but not going to Edmonton.

2001-06-19 Thread Michael Contopoulos
Yes, but the way Berryhill runs, he will be out there pounding away at 3:36-3:38 pace. Now you throw in a huge kick and a race the last 400 and Webb gets his qualifier. M From: Post, Marty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Post, Marty [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 't-and-f@darkwing. uoregon. edu'

Re: t-and-f: Nationals are Here !!! Aren't they ??

2001-06-19 Thread Steve Grathwohl
At 09:50 AM 6/19/01 -0700, Conway Hill wrote: Regarding Webb, it seems as if his choice of races and race patterns through the spring would have him prepared to be ready on Thursday as well as being able to run well through the rounds ... And so far no one else has really stepped forward to

t-and-f: Webb maybe top 3 at USATF 1500... but not going to Edmonton.

2001-06-19 Thread Post, Marty
The WC A standard at 1500m is rather stiff this year: 3:36.20. From 1983 there has been exactly one US championship where the winning time was 3:36.20 or faster, last year when Jennings ran 3:35.90 (and he was the only one). The last three US champs in Eugene ('86, 93, '99) winning times were

Re: t-and-f: Nationals are Here !!! Aren't they ??

2001-06-19 Thread Aferr48
In a message dated 6/19/01 11:57:09 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Wasn't aware that Gatlin is not going to be in Eugene ... Anyone know why ?? If I heard correctly at Junior Nationals, Gatlin is going to summer school. If all goes well he will join the Junior Team for

Re: t-and-f: Webb maybe top 3 at USATF 1500... but not going to Edmonton.

2001-06-19 Thread Ryan Grote
But what if he wins? Is it then a situation a la the marathon trials where the champion gets into the meet even if no qualifier? Can the champion who runs 3:39 go to Worlds and block others who potentially posess the standard? Better yet, who the hell cares, let the racing play itself out on

RE: t-and-f: Webb maybe top 3 at USATF 1500... but not going to Edmonton.

2001-06-19 Thread Post, Marty
it would seem to be the same situation as 2000 Oly mens/womens Marathon Trials if Webb wins the WC B standard is 3:38.40, which he's already met with 3:38.26 so he would be able to go to Edmonton if he wins no matter how slow -Original Message- From: Ryan Grote [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: t-and-f: Webb maybe top 3 at USATF 1500... but not going toEdmonton.

2001-06-19 Thread Kristopher Rolin
On Tue, 19 Jun 2001, Michael Contopoulos wrote: Anyone notice that they have let Ryan Hall into the 1500m as the last qualifier. Looks like they let the a guy in front of him in also with a 3:42.6 when the time was 3:41 something. Ritz's was only like .16 of the Q time not a full second...they

RE: t-and-f: Webb maybe top 3 at USATF 1500... but not going to Edmonton.

2001-06-19 Thread John Dye
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Post, Marty Even if Webb makes top 3 it seems extremely remote he'll have A qualifier. And his coach has supposedly said he will not chase one in Europe. That's exactly what Coach Raczko said in

t-and-f: another 15-footer

2001-06-19 Thread GHTFNedit
guess it's one of the better-kept secrets on the planet that Mary Sauer jumped 15-1 1/2 last weekend. gh

Re: t-and-f: Webb maybe top 3 at USATF 1500... but not going to Edmonton.

2001-06-19 Thread Ed Dana Parrot
it would seem to be the same situation as 2000 Oly mens/womens Marathon Trials if Webb wins the WC B standard is 3:38.40, which he's already met with 3:38.26 so he would be able to go to Edmonton if he wins no matter how slow Unless two other Trials finalists break 3:36.20 afterwards,

Re: t-and-f: Webb maybe top 3 at USATF 1500... but not going to Edmonton.

2001-06-19 Thread mmrohl
Netters Kristopher Rolin writes: On Tue, 19 Jun 2001, Michael Contopoulos wrote: Anyone notice that they have let Ryan Hall into the 1500m as the last qualifier. Looks like they let the a guy in front of him in also with a 3:42.6 when the time was 3:41 something. Ritz's was only like .16

RE: t-and-f: Webb maybe top 3 at USATF 1500... but not going to Edmonton.

2001-06-19 Thread Eckel, Ryan
Bulletin: Life is not fair. In addition to promoting the sport, it is one of the missions of the USATF to develop the nation's promising talent. Note that no one was adversely affected by the decision to let Hall run. In other words, no one was denied entry who otherwise would have been

t-and-f: Division II information needed

2001-06-19 Thread welch suggs
Ok track fans, here's a teaser for you: Anybody got the name of a woman who ran for Humboldt State in spring 1999 after transferring from a juco, and won two events at Division II nationals that year? I have no idea if she stayed at Humboldt in 2000 or went elsewehere. First answer wins...my

t-and-f: Loosening Standards (was: something a lot longer)

2001-06-19 Thread Buck Jones
I have a training partner who didn't submit an entry with his 3:42.53. He has some mixed feelings about Hall et al. being in the meet. Bottom line - he's gotten over it as it really does nothing to make his life worse, but he feels it would have been nice to know about this beforehand, y'know?

Re: t-and-f: Medleys

2001-06-19 Thread Ed Dana Parrot
I'm sure most of us will think of the record as "Webb's other HS record", and rightfully so since most of the credit for the final time goes to him. I agree that Richard Smith's 3:03 1200 was exceptional, but many teams could field a 50.2 400 runner and a 1:56 800 runner. But could many

t-and-f: edmonton housing accommodations?

2001-06-19 Thread Geoff Thurner
i'm volunteering in the media area for the world champs in august and was wondering if anybody had any tips on places to stay cheap in edmonton (since i'm covering all of my own expenses including travel) in town...in the past, i've even gone as far as camped out an hour away (in knoxville

Re: t-and-f: Webb maybe top 3 at USATF 1500... but not going toEdmonton.

2001-06-19 Thread Ed Dana Parrot
On Tue, 19 Jun 2001, Michael Contopoulos wrote: Anyone notice that they have let Ryan Hall into the 1500m as the last qualifier. Looks like they let the a guy in front of him in also with a 3:42.6 when the time was 3:41 something. Ritz's was only like .16 of the Q time not a full

Re: t-and-f: Webb maybe top 3 at USATF 1500... but not going to Edmonton.

2001-06-19 Thread WMurphy25
In a message dated 6/19/01 1:38:02 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But what if he wins? Is it then a situation a la the marathon trials where the champion gets into the meet even if no qualifier? Can the champion who runs 3:39 go to Worlds and block others who potentially posess the

Re: t-and-f: Division II information needed

2001-06-19 Thread GHTFNedit
In a message dated Tue, 19 Jun 2001 4:57:24 PM Eastern Daylight Time, welch suggs [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ok track fans, here's a teaser for you: Anybody got the name of a woman who ran for Humboldt State in spring 1999 after transferring from a juco, and won two events at Division II

Re: t-and-f: Webb maybe top 3 at USATF 1500... but not going toEdmonton.

2001-06-19 Thread Ed Dana Parrot
Except that unlike Golf in Track and field performance is paramount. There is room to let old duffers in in a golf tournament with nearly unlimited space to play, In track there is limited space. So though allowing a Steve Scott to run would remove a better runner from the field where as

Re: t-and-f: Loosening Standards (was: something a lot longer)

2001-06-19 Thread mmrohl
Netters Soon I will go back into hiding but int eh meantime Buck Jones writes: I have a training partner who didn't submit an entry with his 3:42.53. He has some mixed feelings about Hall et al. being in the meet. Bottom line -he's gotten over it as it really does nothing to make his

Re: t-and-f: Selected results from Germany

2001-06-19 Thread Larissa Kleinmann
Busemann unlikely to compete in Edmonton??! That's new to me; he didn't say a word about that in the interviews during and after his qualification in Ratingen. Additionally, his elbow was hurt already before the decathlon. He just did whatever he could do with that injury in the javelin to

RE: t-and-f: 1600/mile conversions

2001-06-19 Thread malmo
Almost every runner accepts GH's conversion as being most accurate. gh ps--you'll excuse the plug, but since this is a resource that many list member s would apparently be interested in, if you don't own a BGB, note that it has several pages of tables showing the equivalents of

Re: t-and-f: Webb maybe top 3 at USATF 1500... but not going toEdmonton.

2001-06-19 Thread Ed Dana Parrot
USATF's policy is to take as many people as possible per event. If Webb wins, and doesn't meet the standard in doing so (and doesn't chase it in Europe), then Michael Stember and David Krummenacker, assuming they run in Eugene, will go to Edmonton. This is also assuming that Gabe Jennings

Re: t-and-f: Medleys

2001-06-19 Thread Steve Grathwohl
At 02:30 PM 6/19/01 -0500, Beard, Cory wrote: If someone loves medleys, please tell me why. Maybe even a little history would be nice. If we have medleys just so we can run another relay (or let milers run in something more interesting than a 4xmile), why not do a 4x600 or 4x1200? Well, I

Re: t-and-f: Medleys

2001-06-19 Thread Michael Contopoulos
To have 4 guys who can run 50.?, 1:56, 3:03 and 3:59 is insane. That's a decent collegiate team. Corey, no offense, but I don't think your earlier post made any sense. The great thing about a dmr is that you take 4 mid distance guys and stretch them out to see how strong or how fast they

t-and-f: Jason Bunston

2001-06-19 Thread Martin J. Dixon
Jason can speak for himself because I think he is a lister but here is a slightly out of date website. I'm pretty sure he is involved in the Toronto 2008 bid. I think he has been fighting a few injuries of late. http://webhome.idirect.com/~jbunston/schedule.html Regards,MartinDate: Mon, 18

Fwd: t-and-f: Medleys

2001-06-19 Thread DHSTFCOACH
The thing I like about medley relays is that many teams do not have 4 good 800m runners or 100m runners and often have to take people from other events to make a team. But many teams can get a decent 800 runner and a pretty good 400 runner and find two other sprinters to fill in the

t-and-f: Medley

2001-06-19 Thread Ed Dana Parrot
Another way to look at how impressive the South Lakes DMR is: In how many state meets would the combined time of the 400m winner, the 800m winner, the 1600m/mile winner and an extrapolation of the 1200m from the 2nd place miler or 800m runner beat the South Lakes time? Certainly in California

Re: t-and-f: Webb maybe top 3 at USATF 1500... but not going to Edmonton.

2001-06-19 Thread WMurphy25
In a message dated 6/19/01 6:34:47 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Does Stember have the A standard? I thought he made the Olympic A standard but not the world A standard Stember ran 3:35.11 in Monaco last year. (The A standard is 3:36.20) Walt Murphy

t-and-f: HUMBOLDT STATE UNIVERSITY PLACED ON PROBATION, WOMEN'S TRACK AND FIELD RECORDS VACATED

2001-06-19 Thread Michael J. Roth
HUMBOLDT STATE UNIVERSITY PLACED ON PROBATION, WOMEN'S TRACK AND FIELD RECORDS VACATED INDIANAPOLIS---The Division II Committee on Infractions has placed Humboldt State University on probation for two years, required the university to

t-and-f: Declared Entry Lists

2001-06-19 Thread T. Jordan
The list of declared athletes for the GMC Envoy USA Outdoor Track Field Championships is now posted on our eugenechamps.com website. Tom Jordan Barbara Kousky Co-Meet Directors eugenechamps.com

t-and-f: Oldest Competitor Ever?

2001-06-19 Thread Wayne T. Armbrust
Declared Entries - 2001 GMC Envoy USA Outdoor Championships Women's 20,000 Meter Race Walk Sunday 06/24/01 at 8:00 AM RANK COMP# ATHLETE TEAMSEED TIME =

t-and-f: BERRYHILL, LUNN, WEBB and HESCH @ 1500

2001-06-19 Thread mike fanelli
...your 1500 team with first alternate,,,you heard it here first!! -MF

Re: t-and-f: Webb maybe top 3 at USATF 1500... but not going to Edmonton

2001-06-19 Thread Daniel Niednagel
Ryan Eckl wrote: In addition to promoting the sport, it is one of the missions of the USATF to develop the nation's promising talent. Note that no one was adversely affected by the decision to let Hall run. In other words, no one was denied entry who otherwise would have been accepted. USATF