t-and-f: half-joking thought about Webb

2001-05-30 Thread Martin J. Dixon
I realize that this is all hypothetical but why couldn't he get a 4 year deal with a shoe company that stipulates that he will be attending school and that he controls when and where he can compete? Somebody would have to offer it to him obviously and I don't know whether a shoe company

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2001-05-30 Thread Eckel, Ryan
, 2001 7:18 AMTo: Track Field ListSubject: t-and-f: half-joking thought about Webb I realize that this is all hypothetical but why couldn't he get a 4 year deal with a shoe company that stipulates that he will be attending school and that he controls when and where he can compete

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2001-05-30 Thread P.F.Talbot
The basic issue is two-fold and doesn't really concern Webb: 1) When and why should an athlete leave his/her coach (and also training environs, etc). 2) Why the assumption that the collegiate route is the only legitimate one for athletic development? As far as Webb goes, one thing he could

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2001-05-30 Thread Edward Koch
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: May 29, 2001 4:03:38 PM GMT Subject: t-and-f: half-joking thought about Webb... why should he go to college and run? He has a coach who has already gotten him to 3:53 as an 18 year-old. He's already of international caliber. He could certainly get Nike or someone

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2001-05-30 Thread Wayne T. Armbrust
Butch Reynolds did not compete for Ohio State after 1987 (I think he was a junior then) although he still had eligibility. He continued to be coached by Frank Zubovich. Edward Koch wrote: I think Carl Lewis stopped competing at the collegiate level after his sophomore or junior year because

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2001-05-30 Thread alan tobin
I think a lot of times what turns a great high school runner into an afterthought is the change in coach in college. If I was a college coach and Webb was coming to me I'd be asking Webb's high school coach for a little help now and then, just so I don't screw things up. Find out what Webb has

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2001-05-30 Thread Kurt Bray
why should he go to college and run? Well, apart from the personal value to him of the education that he will receive in college, I hope he runs in college because I've always liked it when we get to see the college boys wearing their school uniforms beating the big-time pros in their

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2001-05-30 Thread William Bahnfleth
Webb's presence should do good things for the visibility of track and cross-country meets in the Big 10. The guy in the street has actually heard of him and might show up to see a college meet if he's running. One hopes that the sports info types will use this angle. The benefit for the

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2001-05-30 Thread whitmank
Kurt Bray wrote: Well, apart from the personal value to him of the education that he will receive in college, I hope he runs in college because I've always liked it when we get to see the college boys wearing their school uniforms beating the big-time pros in their shoe company singlets I must

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2001-05-30 Thread Edward Koch
for track and field. Ed Koch Virginia Law '80 --Original Message-- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: May 29, 2001 6:56:15 PM GMT Subject: RE: t-and-f: half-joking thought about Webb... Brian wrote: One reason might be that if he blows out his Achilles or gets cancer

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2001-05-30 Thread GHTFNedit
In a message dated 5/30/01 11:40:22, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Webb's presence should do good things for the visibility of track and cross-country meets in the Big 10. The guy in the street has actually heard of him and might show up to see a college meet if he's running. Rumor has it in

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2001-05-30 Thread Ryan Grote
running the show in hoops...good stuff. If Webb had signed with Stanford, by all means I'd say GO PRO! Grote adiRP/MMRD - Original Message - From: Martin J. Dixon To: Track Field List Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 7:17 AM Subject: t-and-f: half-joking thought about

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2001-05-30 Thread Sdcxc
No kidding. Let him have some fun in college. If he's truly destined to follow in Ryun's footsteps then Congress is also in his future. If he has LOTS of fun in college, he'll be perfectly qualified. sdc

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2001-05-30 Thread GHTFNedit
In a message dated 5/30/01 14:54:29, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: No kidding. Let him have some fun in college. If he's truly destined to follow in Ryun's footsteps then Congress is also in his future. If he has LOTS of fun in college, he'll be perfectly qualified. if he has LOTS of fun in

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2001-05-30 Thread GHTFNedit
In a message dated 5/30/01 14:26:33, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If Webb had signed with Stanford, by all means I'd say GO PRO! is there a difference? :-)

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2001-05-29 Thread P.F.Talbot
...why should he go to college and run? He has a coach who has already gotten him to 3:53 as an 18 year-old. He's already of international caliber. He could certainly get Nike or someone to offer to pay his tuition whenever he does decide to go to school in exchange for sponsorship. He could

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2001-05-29 Thread Mcewen, Brian T
. -Original Message- From: P.F.Talbot [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 12:04 PM To: Track list Subject: t-and-f: half-joking thought about Webb... ...why should he go to college and run? He has a coach who has already gotten him to 3:53 as an 18 year-old. He's

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2001-05-29 Thread Dave Cameron
training running with some of Michigan's top runners (Pilja, Wisniewski, maybe Brannen?) -Original Message- From: P.F.Talbot [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 12:04 PM To: Track list Subject: t-and-f: half-joking thought about Webb... ...why should he go

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2001-05-29 Thread Jim McLatchie
-joking thought about Webb... why should he go to college and run? He has a coach who has already gotten him to 3:53 as an 18 year-old. He's already of international caliber. He could certainly get Nike or someone to offer to pay his tuition whenever he does decide to go to school

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2001-05-29 Thread Mcewen, Brian T
-the-subject of elites NOT attending college, but NCAA coaches should comment. -Brian -Original Message- From: Jim McLatchie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 1:50 PM To: Mcewen, Brian T Cc: Track list Subject: Re: t-and-f: half-joking thought about Webb... do you

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2001-05-29 Thread DJCRibeye
do you think a college would pay his education if he fell to maladies that you outline below?? YES!!! I would certainly hope and expect that if any athlete is medically disqualified that the university would honor the scholarship. Any parent of a potential student/athlete should inquire

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2001-05-29 Thread philip_ponebshek
Brian wrote: One reason might be that if he blows out his Achilles or gets cancer or has an auto accident and can never run again ... Nike won't pay anything for him to attend College when he is 30. College expenses for U. of M. out-of-state must be $90-120,000 for four years. Well, I know

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2001-05-29 Thread Ed Dana Parrot
Aside from the time and energy spent studying, going to class, etc, which would be a problem for some runners and not a problem for others, there are two main problems with very talented runners at any distance proceeding from high school to college competition: 1.Coaching. There are plenty of

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2001-05-29 Thread Mcewen, Brian T
decide to go through college (on the college's dime), rather than enter the open ranks right after HS. -Brian -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 2:56 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: t-and-f: half-joking thought about Webb

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2001-05-29 Thread philip_ponebshek
Randy T. wrote: Something that everyone seems to be overlooking in this debate of whether Webb should stay under the tutelage of his HS coach and skip collegiate competition (go straight to the tour)... Nobody's overlooking any of this. Please don't constructing strawmen to argue against.