t-and-f: TOP STARS WANT TO SEND SIGNAL IN LAST PRE-OLYMPIC MEET

2000-09-01 Thread Christopher Goss
TOP STARS WANT TO SEND SIGNAL IN LAST PRE-OLYMPIC MEET BERLIN (AP) - Like most of the world's track stars running at the ISTAF meet Friday, Maurice Greene is aiming to send a loud and clear signal to the competition before the Olympics. Whether it's Greene, Marion Jones, or Morocco's Hicham El

t-and-f: ISTAF web site--caveat emptor

2000-09-01 Thread Ed Gordon
It's now Friday, the day of the ISTAF meet, and I again logged into their site. Couldn't have included less information even if they had tried. A really lame effort. Even the instructions for the "student races"--which are limited to the schools in Berlin and Brandenburg--are in English!!

t-and-f: Age-graded performance

2000-09-01 Thread Jay Ulfelder
Ed Parrot made the case for age-graded tables: "Remember, the purpose of the age graded tables is to come up with equivalent performances for one age, sex, and event vs another age, sex, and event...As a tool to compare a large number of runners of all ages and sexes at all distances, it is

Re: t-and-f: Age-graded performance

2000-09-01 Thread Ed Dana Parrot
Now let me explain why I think they're a waste of time. Call me old-fashioned, but I thought the best way to compare two performances is to compare them straight up. Ottey's 10.99 is 0.5 slower than Flo-Jo's WR. We can come up with a lot of things to try to understand why: talent, wind, altitude,

Re: t-and-f: Age-graded performance

2000-09-01 Thread GMcwill67
In a message dated 00-09-01 09:20:00 EDT, you write: It just like handicaps in golf (which I don't really like but recognize its value for most golfers). The pros NEVER talk about them, because they are irrelevent to being the best in the world. But most other golfers who play in any

Re: t-and-f: Metric versus English unit

2000-09-01 Thread GHTFNedit
In a message dated 8/31/00 6:17:54 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Question. Why if TFN is a US magazine is it laid out metrically. Because the metric system is so infinitely superior and easy to use. Nonetheless, i remain at the forefront of those who think that any mention of metric

Re: t-and-f: ISTAF web site--caveat emptor

2000-09-01 Thread GHTFNedit
In a message dated 8/31/00 10:57:43 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Couldn't have included less information even if they had tried. A really lame effort. Even the instructions for the "student races"--which are limited to the schools in Berlin and Brandenburg--are in English!! That's just

Re: t-and-f: Injured Devers Pulls Out of Berlin

2000-09-01 Thread GHTFNedit
Prediction: if the IAAF continues with its not-have-to-win-all GL meets to get the bucks, they'll say you do have to win the last one. this was SO predictable. gh

t-and-f: SURVIVOR--yet another escape!

2000-09-01 Thread GHTFNedit
who is this mystery man who almost gets bounced every day, but never quite does? He's No.2 again today, the 7th day he has been No. 2 or No. 3! Meanwhile---Mr. Pappas is gone. He was only 4th yesterday and 5th the day before, but put on a big surge. Well, sort of. gh

t-and-f: this one's gonna be close!

2000-09-01 Thread GHTFNedit
Of the first 23 votes, the distribution among the 7 guys left was 4-4-4-4-3-3-0.

Re: t-and-f: Age-graded performance

2000-09-01 Thread Ed Dana Parrot
The difference between golf handicaps and the age-graded tables is that a golfer's handicap is based on his own performance, so what it is supposed to measure is how well each golfer in a tournament played up to his or her own potential on a given day. I agree on this point, but the way golf

t-and-f: Geb vs. Tergat is on

2000-09-01 Thread GHTFNedit
IAAF site has reported that the Kenyans have flipped Ivuti and Tergat, so we'll get a replay of the Atlanta 10K in Sydney. gh

Re: t-and-f: WAVA

2000-09-01 Thread CORA KOCH
I seem to recall a rule of thumb told me about masters competition some time ago that the average athlete who stays in shape can expect to lose 1% on their performance every year past age thirty. Perhaps, the lose of performance is slower for elite athletes or it starts later (35?). 10.99 is

Re: t-and-f: Berlin Sprints

2000-09-01 Thread WillyBeaman
OK I am begging! Someone please find out who ran on a relay that is the 5th or 6th fastest time ever run!!! That time is far more impressive than Marion or Maurice's runs. Who was on the relay? And to further the hype, the second place team ran 38.18, another American team. I cannot

t-and-f: The Relay team

2000-09-01 Thread WillyBeaman
Three cheers for usatf.org!!! The last place I thought to look and they came through. The same team that ran in Gateshead ran in Berlin. Jon Drummond to Bernard Williams to Curtis Johnson to Maurice Greene. 37.65 As happy as I would like to be at the prospect of a US domination I see

Re: t-and-f: Injured Devers Pulls Out of Berlin

2000-09-01 Thread Wilmar K
Hello all, There's injured and injured. In Brussels, Devers already announced she would not go to Berlin but fly home instead. She had pain in several places indeed, most recent a muscle strain in her 'derriere' (as I think she called it), but decided to start in Brussels anyway. As you will

t-and-f: Berlin Sprints

2000-09-01 Thread Conway
Can't believe there is no talk of the Berlin sprints yet .. Marion goes 10.78 and blows away the field .. Maurice goes 9.86 and does same - into a slight headwind .. And Drummond comes up and makes a statement for the games running 9.96 ... Would have to say that Bailey and Boldon running 10.2x

t-and-f: Milt Campbell gets his due in U-T

2000-09-01 Thread TrackCEO
Y ask Y: Mark Zeigler of The San Diego Union-Tribune has written a stunning front-page story about how Milt Campbell has been overlooked for decades despite winning the Melbourne deca -- the first black to be crowned "world's greatest athlete." Z-man interviwed New Jersey's Campbell via phone

t-and-f: Injured Devers Pulls Out of Berlin

2000-09-01 Thread GW Dameron
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Re: t-and-f: ISTAF web site--caveat emptor

2000-09-01 Thread Dirk Wagner
GH schrieb am 01.09.2000: In a message dated 8/31/00 10:57:43 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Couldn't have included less information even if they had tried. A really lame effort. Even the instructions for the "student races"--which are limited to the schools in Berlin and Brandenburg--are in

t-and-f: 2000 FinishLynx / NCAA DI Women's XC Pre-Season National Poll

2000-09-01 Thread JJRosen
FinishLynx / NCAA DIVISION I WOMEN'S CROSS COUNTRY NATIONAL POLL (Conducted by the Women's Cross Country Coaches Association) 2000 Preseason Poll September 1, 2000 Ranking Team (first place votes)Points 1. Stanford (8)290 2. Wisconsin (2) 281 3.

t-and-f: Needed: Fast 10km Runner For Winning Relay

2000-09-01 Thread Ryan Sullivan
When: Sat 16 Sept 2000 What: Jehrico Oceanman 10-11km Cross-Terrain relay leg Other Teammates: Gary Parsons is the race organisor and has competed in Ocean Kayak events in Hawaii and for the National Lifeguard Team. Recently, he has been training for a similar event in Hawaii in late

t-and-f: Update on 'Name on the Year' nomination

2000-09-01 Thread R.T.
Here's some info on Mikael Snällfot, with his permission. RT thought his name meant "snail foot" and had it translated online to "kind" - which is correct I suppose. BUT - the first part "snäll" comes in this case from the German "schnell", which means "fast". So, his name really means

Re: t-and-f: Brussels 10K

2000-09-01 Thread Chas. L. Shaffer
At 12:41 PM 8/30/2000 -0400, Dan Lilot wrote: There has been some discussion as to whether Felix Limo, listed as finishing second in the Brussels 10K, had actually been lappedHe was definitely not lapped It was certainly confusing to the two track nuts and ESPN viewers in this