t-and-f: USATF prez candidate talks dollars sense

2000-10-04 Thread TrackCEO
Y ask Y: Check out a post by Bob Bowman to the USATF associations mailing list on egroups: http://www.egroups.com/message/usatf_assoc/1225 Bob's running for president of USATF, and what really jumps out in his campaign pitch is his clarion call for USATF to push the IOC and IAAF for America's

Re: t-and-f: Peter Snell - 800/1500m all-time list

2000-10-04 Thread Jason L Bunston
Several notes on Snell: I have seen several references about his grass track times (barefoot). The 1:44.1 time he ran barefoot is unbelievable...really, just think about that for a moment. And for those of you doubting his dominance, check out his Tokyo Olympic race - he buried the field with

RE:t-and-f: Re Suzy's place in history

2000-10-04 Thread OSKCT
If that is really THE Kathi Rounds lurking out there... maybe she could tell us what a 2:38.3 to 2:39.3 is going to feel like, in the middle of a 1500 off a slow opening lap, with a straightaway still to go." Thankfully, I've only run 2 1500's in my life (and I think it took me 2:38 to go

RE: t-and-f: Sydney notes...

2000-10-04 Thread THOMAS,Graham
Cathy's last 200m split was supposedly fast - roughly 25.0 after a 24.0 first 200. Pretty sure she hasn't raced a comp 800m yet. Freeman's 'next best' event potentially could be the 400H (hello Irina!) - Cathy ran 14.0 for 100m Hurdles as a 15yo over a decade ago. Regards - GT -

RE: t-and-f: Sydney notes...

2000-10-04 Thread THOMAS,Graham
Irena Szewinska (POL) won 100/200/400/4x100/LJ medals in Olympic competition. For the most dissimilar Olympic medal double, the possible winner might be one of these: Stan Rowley (AUS) - 1900 GOLD 5000m XC Team Race (not that he earned it!) plus 1900 BRONZE 60m BRONZE 100m BRONZE 200m Babe

Re: t-and-f: Peter Snell - 800/1500m all-time list

2000-10-04 Thread David Dallman
Grass track yes, barefoot no. Or have I been missing something for the last 35 years? David Dallman On Wed, 4 Oct 2000, Jason L Bunston wrote: Several notes on Snell: I have seen several references about his grass track times (barefoot).

Re: t-and-f: Peter Snell - 800/1500m all-time list

2000-10-04 Thread Ed Dana Parrot
I have seen several references about his grass track times (barefoot). The 1:44.1 time he ran barefoot is unbelievable...really, just think about that for a moment. I completely agree that Peter Snell's domination was impressive and I can't think of anyone who jumps out as a clearly superior

Re: t-and-f: Sydney notes...

2000-10-04 Thread Ed Dana Parrot
Related question, prior to this year has there ever been an athlete, male or female, who medaled in an Olympics or World Championships in both the Long Jump and either the open 400 or 4x400? That has to be one of the widest 'dissimilarity' of top-level performance in events ever seen,

Re: t-and-f: Peter Snell - 800/1500m all-time list

2000-10-04 Thread Alan Shank
Jason L Bunston wrote: Several notes on Snell: I have seen several references about his grass track times (barefoot). The 1:44.1 time he ran barefoot is unbelievable...really, just think about that for a moment. I don't believe he ran that race barefoot, or any others. And for those of

Re: t-and-f: WARNING- MARATHON RESULTS DISCUSSED

2000-10-04 Thread David Monti
At 11:13 AM 10/01/2000 -0700, Alan Shank [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kenya 2, dnf, dnf = ? Were the two Kenyans who didn't finish (Lagat and Cheruiyot) added at the expense of the guys who were dumped? I think the silver medalist was one of those added. I can't remember whether they replaced the

t-and-f: NYC Metro Interest Only

2000-10-04 Thread David Monti
October Programming from Salmini Films for endurance sports fans I. RUNNING NEW YORK on MSG Network Airtimes: Saturday, October 7th at 10:30 pm; Monday, October 9th at 7:03 pm; Monday, October 23rd at 7:03 pm; Sunday, October 29th at 6:00 pm. Show Highlights for October: . Continental

t-and-f: gp final startlists

2000-10-04 Thread Joel Tetreault
iaaf has them up. unexpected: devers is listed in the 100H. mens 3k looks decent. Joel [.sig] AXAF Public Outreach: http://xrtpub.harvard.edu Morceli Home Page: http://www.cs.rochester.edu/u/tetreaul/morceli.html

RE: t-and-f: Peter Snell - 800/1500m all-time list

2000-10-04 Thread Highfill, Floyd
Ed Parrot wrote: -Original Message- From: Ed Dana Parrot [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2000 9:35 AM To: Track Listserve Subject: Re: t-and-f: Peter Snell - 800/1500m all-time list I have seen several references about his grass track times

t-and-f: On the topic of drugs in sport....

2000-10-04 Thread Jason L Bunston
Does anyone have any insights concerning the Charlie Francis interview posted here? I think it had a lot of points to consider since there was a lot of list traffic regarding just those issues he raised... Anyone?

Re: t-and-f: Dissimilar Oly doubles - oops

2000-10-04 Thread A.J. Craddock
Oops - post NBC syndrome. 5th in the 4x400M Still a heck of a combination Thanks Ryan for pointing this out. Tony Craddock At 09:53 AM 10/4/00 -0700, A.J. Craddock wrote: How about Aussie's Perris-Kneebone? Gold in Field Hockey at Atlanta, bronze in W 4x400M at Sydney? Tony Craddock

t-and-f: Poor Sportsmanship at OG may cost endorsements for athletes

2000-10-04 Thread A.J. Craddock
October 4, 2000 Advertising Poor Sportsmanship at Olympic Games May Cost Endorsements for Athletes By SUZANNE VRANICA Staff Reporter of THE WALL STREET JOURNAL Every two years, athletes keen on becoming the next Mary Lou Retton return from the Olympic Games hoping to cash in on endorsement

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2000-10-04 Thread Dan Kaplan
--- Ryan Grote [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For these reasons, I am clearly old and out of it, and more than ever have not a clue what the hell I am talking. Truly this is a sad day. Indeed! -Why no mention of Portland drubbing ranked Southern Utah? It was a very impressive performance by

t-and-f: NBC posts lowest Olympic ratings ever

2000-10-04 Thread A.J. Craddock
October 4, 2000 NBC Posts Low Olympic Ratings, But Still Beats the Competition By JOE FLINT Staff Reporter of THE WALL STREET JOURNAL NBC's coverage of the Summer Olympic games from Sydney ended up being the lowest-rated in recent history, but still easily beat the competition during the

t-and-f: Peter Snell's achievements

2000-10-04 Thread Mats Ã…kerlind
Hi out there. I'd like to make a few comments concerning the posts about Peter Snell. I will not judge him versus Seb Coe and the rest. I just note that they both were super athletes, and the best thing with this discussion is that we now write about them. Abot Peter Snell. His 800 WR was

Re: t-and-f: Cross Talk...No More Grote Poll.

2000-10-04 Thread Dan Kaplan
--- Ryan Grote [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For these reasons, I am clearly old and out of it, and more than ever have not a clue what the hell I am talking. Truly this is a sad day. Indeed! -Why no mention of Portland drubbing ranked Southern Utah? It was a very impressive performance by

t-and-f: Change of carreers

2000-10-04 Thread Mats Ã…kerlind
A similar case to Perris-Kneebone. In 1992 Germany's Nico Motchebon was very close to the Olympic Team in Modern Pentathlon. He was even on German TV, showing the clothing that the Germans would wear in Barcelona. But then he was left home as reserve. (He was also 5th in the 1991 World

Re: t-and-f: Cross Talk...No More Grote Poll.

2000-10-04 Thread Dan Kaplan
--- Ryan Grote [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For these reasons, I am clearly old and out of it, and more than ever have not a clue what the hell I am talking. Truly this is a sad day. Indeed! -Why no mention of Portland drubbing ranked Southern Utah? It was a very impressive performance by

Re: t-and-f: Media Groups Remain Unhappy With Olympic Internet Blackout

2000-10-04 Thread Tim Willis
At 11:34 AM 10/4/2000 -0700, you wrote: October 4, 2000 World-Wide Media Groups Remain Unhappy With Olympic Internet Blackout Associated Press NEW YORK -- Unhappy with a blanket Internet ban that took place during the Sydney Games, many of the world's leading media organizations are demanding

t-and-f: IOC double standard?

2000-10-04 Thread Michael J. Roth
Seems like a double standard to me. This whole thing at the Olympics was just an attempt to make the US look bad after teh Salt Lake City incident that embarrased the IOC and made them "reform" themselves. Gen. Barry McCaffrey is a no-nothing windbag politician, and should stay in DC with the

t-and-f: Olympic syringes

2000-10-04 Thread A.J. Craddock
Newsweek reports that used syringes were found by Australian cleaning crews in the rooms of athletes from 20 nations. Gotta love those B-12 injections! Tony Craddock

Re: t-and-f: Olympic syringes

2000-10-04 Thread FranciCash
The Sydney Newspspers reported this a few days ago, said that there were so many in the "Bulgarian" accomodations they were the only ones they identified. Also, because the did not use the container provided for the syringes some of the housekeeping staff were stabbed. So they refused to

Re: t-and-f: NBC posts lowest Olympic ratings ever

2000-10-04 Thread Roger Ruth
Tony Craddock quoted Joe Flint, Wall Street Journal: Final numbers from Nielsen Media Research indicate that on average, 21.5 million viewers watched the 8 p.m. to 11 p.m. prime-time coverage of the games. That was down 35% from the 33.1 million who watched the 1996 games from Atlanta. Of

t-and-f: LYNN NELSON in ULTRAMARATHON

2000-10-04 Thread mike fanelli
Lynn Nelson, 1988 Olympic Trials 10,00 meter champ (and Seoul Olympic finalist), an Oregon (via MN, AZ and CA) resident debuted at the 50 kilometer ultramarathon distance recently. The race director referred to her performance as "Trasonesque" (referring to Ann, the Bob Beamon of ultras??).

Re: t-and-f: devers

2000-10-04 Thread Alan Shank
Jack Pfeifer wrote: Re Devers in GP start list: Does she have to run at this meet to get her share of the million$ won earlier this year? That's part of the deal, but I don't know whether there can be an exception if a person is injured. Cheers, Alan Shank

t-and-f: Olympic syringes

2000-10-04 Thread Randall Northam
The Sydney Newspspers reported this a few days ago, said that there were so many in the "Bulgarian" accomodations they were the only ones they identified. Also, because the did not use the container provided for the syringes some of the housekeeping staff were stabbed. So they refused to

t-and-f: Odd doubles

2000-10-04 Thread Ed Grant
Netters: The unsual doubles beind posted for some athletes just indicates how much talent there is out there which never gets to our sport. The posts which I have received on Marla Runyan---and I thank all who sent info---also point to this as, without her vision problems, she may have

t-and-f: Coaching Position Available

2000-10-04 Thread DLTFNedit
I am forwarding this for a friend. Please reply to the e-mail address or phone numbers below: The Heidelberg College (Tiffin, OH) Track and Field and Cross Country program is looking to fill a vacant part time assistant coach position. Primary responsibilities will involve, but will not be

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2000-10-04 Thread DMorton325
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t-and-f: Modernizing the IAAF World Rankings

2000-10-04 Thread TANFDONLEY
Previous threads have pointed out several flaws in the current IAAF world rankings system. I believe they are in fact numerous flaws and they need to be addressed. Some are probably reasonably straightforward to fix and some are not. One issue that has not been mentioned on this list is the

Re: t-and-f: Let's Kill All The Lawyers

2000-10-04 Thread CORA KOCH
We all know that Shakespeare was a pen name. What was he trying to cover-up! Ed Koch -Original Message- From: Bruce Glikin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TFMail List [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wednesday, October 04, 2000 1:43 PM Subject: FW: t-and-f: Let's Kill

t-and-f: I have evidence, says US drugs boss

2000-10-04 Thread Paul V. Tucknott
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport/hi/english/olympics2000/newsid_955000/955496.stm The former director of drug control for the US Olympics Committee has told a federal judge that he has enough evidence to back up his claims that the organisation sabotaged his anti-drug battle. Dr Wade Exum sued

t-and-f: Greene turns back on huge payday

2000-10-04 Thread Paul V. Tucknott
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport/hi/english/athletics/newsid_956000/956195.stm Olympic 100m champion Maurice Greene has turned down the chance to race for $500,000 in the Grand Prix final in Qatar on Thursday. The world record holder has taken the decision to fly back home to the United States

Re: t-and-f: Let's Kill All The Lawyers

2000-10-04 Thread R.T.
We all know that Shakespeare was a pen name. What was he trying to cover-up! Obviously he was a frustrated javelin thrower, given the name. As for that Montague and Capulet stuff, it was obviously a pseudonym for IOC versus USATF. Et tu, Merode? RT

Re: t-and-f: On the topic of drugs in sport....

2000-10-04 Thread A.J. Craddock
In the interests of full and fair disclosure, it should be pointed out that R.T., while being a frequent and sometimes brilliant poster to this List, is also a USA Track and Field Official. As such, one would expect a reflexive lack of support from him for a Canadian espousing the heretical

Re: t-and-f: On the topic of drugs in sport....

2000-10-04 Thread R.T.
In the interests of full and fair disclosure, it should be pointed out that R.T., while being a frequent and sometimes brilliant poster to this List, is also a USA Track and Field Official. As such, one would expect a reflexive lack of support from him for a Canadian espousing the heretical