Re: t-and-f: Jon Entine/Jim Brown

In a message dated 4/4/01 8:37:56 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] The shows called "On The Record", It's scheduled to come on again at 10:00pm (MST) Thursday night and 9:00am (MST) Saturday morning on HBO. I missed the beginning of the show, but Jon Entine, Jim Brown and John

t-and-f: DGs and his scriptures

DGS needs to leave the scriptures off his comments. If he/we need spiritual uplifting then another avenue of information needs to be explored. Of course, anytime his name pops up one can always - DELETE, DELETE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED]">Who took the bronze in that race? And what

Re: t-and-f: DGs and his scriptures

Jimmy, After reading some of the stuff that gets posted on this list, I need all the uplifting I can get. Obviously it didn't work on you. Are you getting the same rains that Austin is getting? Jim McLatchie wrote: DGS needs to leave the scriptures off his comments. If he/we need spiritual

Re: t-and-f: DGs and his scriptures

Netters Jim wrote: DGS needs to leave the scriptures off his comments. I see no reason why Darrell or anyone else needs to change their qoutes. They are not obscene and to request such violates his first amendment rights. Besides, Darrell's chosen quote is a good one for this forum.

Re: t-and-f: Record duration

I recall reading somewhere that it was impossible to re-measure the course years later because part of the course was no longer there due to construction. Ed Koch --Original Message-- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: April 3, 2001 10:35:08 PM GMT Subject: Re:

t-and-f: Re: DGs and his scriptures

The true issue is why would this be a topic for you to address at all? Darrell Gene Smith, Jr. Faith is a road seldom traveled Let us run with patience the race that is set before us, looking unto Jesus, the author and finisher of our faith" Hebrews 12: 1-2

Re: t-and-f: DGs and his scriptures

Thank you to all of you that have replied, and to those that have written me privately. I do not need to pound anyone over the head, that is not my part of the job. The scripture has meaning to track, to life, and to my religious beliefs. It belongs anywhere I go. It hurts my heart to know

Re: t-and-f: Record duration

Wasn't that Rotterdam? Quite near Antwerp, but still a different place! David Dallman On Thu, 5 Apr 2001, Edward Koch wrote: I recall reading somewhere that it was impossible to re-measure the course years later because part of the course

Re: t-and-f: Re: DGs and his scriptures

I can't believe anyone's giving him a hard time for a religious quote under his email signature, although I was wondering whether Jim was kind of joking about it. I can see how many people would not find it a joke, however. Plenty of people have other quotes after their signature, some of

t-and-f: ATFS annuals

I hope I'm not offending the anti-commercial nature of this list (although many other people do it so why should I worry?) but I have been investigating the possibilities of re-printing some of the ATFS annuals (The International Track and Field Annual) which have been out of print for years. I

RE: t-and-f: Record duration

I recall reading somewhere that it was impossible to re-measure the course years later because part of the course was no longer there due to construction. Ed Koch An idea came to me regarding this issue of the 2:08:37 really being a "valid" WB. Certainly, all that has been written

t-and-f: contacting Steve Bell?

Is Steve Bell (ex-webmaster of trackandfield.com) on this list, or does anyone know how to contact him?

t-and-f: Most venerable records

We have had discussion recently on prep records and how venerable some may or may not be ... There has also been past discussion on how much record breaking we may or may not see on the world scene ... Looking at the current world record list, there are some awesome marks ... What mark would

t-and-f: Gator bite out of crime...

Title: Gator bite out of crime... From the Seattle Times, 4/5/01 Paul Merca --- Gator bite out of crime Two Florida pole vaulters might finish their Gator careers with track records they'd rather not have. Michael Hissam, a senior, and Brian DaCunha, a sophomore, probably

RE: t-and-f: Records

but guys like Virgin, Hunt, Hulst, Williams, McChesney seemed to be running a lot more of the 5,000 , 10,000 type races ... Is that true or just a figment of my imagination ??? tis true. Take '72 as a typical example-- 13 under 14:30 at 3M (but only 2 under 15 at 5K), 20 under 31:50 at

RE: t-and-f: Records

Brian wrote: but guys like Virgin, Hunt, Hulst, Williams, McChesney seemed to be running a lot more of the 5,000 , 10,000 type races ... Is that true or just a figment of my imagination ??? tis true. Take '72 as a typical example-- 13 under 14:30 at 3M (but only 2 under 15 at 5K), 20

Re: t-and-f: Most venerable records

Michael Johnson's 19.32 Going to be a looong time before someone even comes close. With Frankie Fredericks and Michael Johnson out of the picture there will be no-one to pull the others under 20.00 ... I am predicting that the next decade will see the return of 20.00 as a very respectable 200m

t-and-f: Curbless tracks

Wayne's remark about track accuracy reminded me of my last time at Arcadia High School in Glendora, California. They don't have a curb around the track. You could see where the inner lane line marking the edge of the track had been worn by people stepping on it, thus running less than 400

Re: t-and-f: Most venerable records

19.32 without question. It will stand for longer than any of us want to admit. DGS Faith is a road seldom traveled Let us run with patience the race that is set before us, looking unto Jesus, the author and finisher of our faith" Hebrews 12: 1-2

Re: t-and-f: Most venerable records

Elliott wrote: Michael Johnson's 19.32 Going to be a looong time before someone even comes close. With Frankie Fredericks and Michael Johnson out of the picture there will be no-one to pull the others under 20.00 ... I am predicting that the next decade will see the return of 20.00 as a very

Re: t-and-f: Most venerable records

Elliott wrote: Michael Johnson's 19.32 Going to be a looong time before someone even comes close. With Frankie Fredericks and Michael Johnson out of the picture there will be no-one to pull the others under 20.00 ... I am predicting that the next decade will see the return of 20.00 as a

t-and-f: Honor diversity? What about MY diversity?

I think that a bigot like Jim needs to be removed from the list. Or at leasthe needsa dollop of "diversity training" shoved down his throat. malmo, BFD -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jim McLatchieSent: Thursday, April 05,

t-and-f: STUDIES/ARTICLES ON SHORTAGES OF COACHES

Good Day, I am looking for any articles or studies regarding the availability of track coaches or coaches in general in the US. I am currently writing a paper on "Recruiting, Training and Retaining HS Track Coaches" for a class in my masters program at the US Sports Academy. I

Re: t-and-f: DGs and his scriptures

My own personal motto "I would rather believe than not" that goes for anything not just religion. I am never offended by anyone BELIEVING, in anything, as long as they dont mess with my stuff. Mike

Re: t-and-f: Record duration

2:08 was always a soft time for a world best. It has never surprised me that it is now commonplace and second rate. Clayton did it, legit, MHO Mike

Re: t-and-f: Record duration

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2:08 was always a soft time for a world best. Huh?!? It has never surprised me that it is now commonplace It is? and second rate. WHAT?!? News flash - even in the year 2001, 2:08 is pretty flinkin' fast, and not terribly common. Clayton did it, legit, MHO

Re: t-and-f: Record duration

In 1999 30 guys broke 2:09 and the marathon has always been a weak event (the best runners are not running it) I bet there are conservatively 100 more that could have. It is roughly equivalent to 27:45 10k running. If you are the 20-30th best quarterback or the 30th best tennis player, etc.

t-and-f: Gator bite out of crime...

Paul Merca wrote, From the Seattle Times, 4/5/01 Two Florida pole vaulters might finish their Gator careers with track records they'd rather not have. Michael Hissam, a senior, and Brian DaCunha, a sophomore, probably wished they were sprinters when they were caught around 3 a.m. yesterday

Re: t-and-f: Record duration

I do realize that 2:08 has been bettered ~50 times, so I guess it depends on your concept of "common." My definition of "common" means not quite world class. If you can run 2:08, you're a world class marathoner and can race with anyone. Donald Mcfarlin wrote: News flash - even in the year

Re: t-and-f: Fullerton humor

On Thu, 05 Apr 2001 05:43:21 , you wrote: How about "harrier"? If it wasn't for Marc Bloom, I doubt anyone would even know what the term means. Its literal meaning is one who chases hares. But it's not too hard to see how that was stretched to mean cross country runners. Kurt Bray From

Re: t-and-f: Fullerton humor

To answer why basketball players are called cagers, I looked up the answer. Professional basketball began (1896) in New York City and was at one time played on courts enclosed by wire mesh (basketball players are still occasionally referred to as cagers). To my knowledge college hoops

Re: t-and-f: ATFS annuals

To save the printing cost (but still recompense you for the labor), would it be feasible to create and sell electronic versions of these annuals? After all, most stat freaks end up trying to figure out ways to get the data into their personal databases anyway, through scanning, optical character

t-and-f: Curbless Tracks

Keith Conning brings up the subject of curbless tracks in the public arena, so let's talk about them: Keith seems to indicate to the group that because Wayne Armburst says some tracks are mismeasured so then, a track without a curb has to be mismeasured. I will pass that information on to