RE: t-and-f: Re: Built Like Tanks

2001-08-17 Thread Uri Goldbourt, PhD
Why just Dimitrova? Is it because she comes from Eastern Europe? every one else exempt by default? UG -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Sandra K Sent: Friday, August 17, 2001 2:14 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: t-and-f: Re: Built Like

RE: t-and-f: Zurich 1500m :: 11 aug 2000

2001-08-17 Thread Uri Goldbourt, PhD
as far as you know Saidi Sief never ran below 3:30. Well, he did just this in Lausanne on July 4th, timed in 3:29.51 and beating Laban Rotich (3:33.27), Ngeny (3:33.63), WC bronze medal winner Maazouzi (3:33.71) and others. UG on

Re: t-and-f: Re: Built Like Tanks

2001-08-17 Thread Sandrak
Not at all--- admittedly, it's somewhat of a cheap shot, but Dimitrova just happens to look more profoundly masculine than anyone else competing, Mutola included. Who knows, she might be as biologically 'female' as is possible, but it sure hasn't manifested itself in her appearance. -

RE: t-and-f: Richard Chelimo, former 10,000m record holder, dead at 34

2001-08-17 Thread Uri Goldbourt, PhD
Also, Richard was the brother of Ismael Kirui, the 1993 (beating Gebresilassie in a courageous front run and a very early break) and 1995 5000m world champion. They had different family names, presumably because they were raised by different grandparents (?). UG

Re: t-and-f: Weltklasse TV

2001-08-17 Thread WMurphy25
In a message dated 8/16/01 5:01:33 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is Zurich still scheduled to be shown ... Aug 18 1:00-2:00 amESPN2Eastern time This is correct Walt Murphy

Re: t-and-f: Re: Drug cheats aren't funny Garry.

2001-08-17 Thread Geoff Pietsch
Your construct of my message is to say going after drug cheats is emphasizing the negative about our sport. Untrue! If I had said you should change to National Enquirer style articles with headlines and rumors about athletes, you'd be right. But I DID NOT do that. Instead what I would

RE: t-and-f: Richard Chelimo, former 10,000m record holder, dead at 34

2001-08-17 Thread Post, Marty
34 was the age reported in the wire service story according to the IAAF publication on the progression of world records, Chelimo's official date of birth was 21 Apr 1972, which means he would have been 29. of course, his true age may be neither of the above as some Kenyans and other East

RE: t-and-f: Richard Chelimo, former 10,000m record holder, dead at34

2001-08-17 Thread P.F.Talbot
They were half-brothers. Different fathers. On Fri, 17 Aug 2001, Uri Goldbourt, PhD wrote: Also, Richard was the brother of Ismael Kirui, the 1993 (beating Gebresilassie in a courageous front run and a very early break) and 1995 5000m world champion. They had different family names,

Re: t-and-f: scheduling US nationals

2001-08-17 Thread mmrohl
Netters Recently I have been appointed to Chair the Site Selection Committee for racewalking. As such I have to review bids and try to recruit potential hosts. In the walks, often it is the host that selects the date. I don't know if that happens with the TF com. but it might have something

t-and-f: Grote where are you?

2001-08-17 Thread P.F.Talbot
Half-way through August and no talk yet of the fall NCAA cross season. I'm starting to miss the good old days Paul

Re: t-and-f: Grote where are you?

2001-08-17 Thread Michael Jones
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t-and-f: Top 10 list: What's your best running song ever?

2001-08-17 Thread Kevin Galbraith
Hey Track List Pals: The Jennings as Hopper-Apocalypse Now thread has started me thinking about other things peripheral to running. Have you ever gone out for a run and gotten a song stuck in your head? I find that some songs lend themselves better than others to making it through a long run

t-and-f: USATF News Notes: August 17, 2001

2001-08-17 Thread Usatfcom99
Contact:Tom Surber Media Information Manager USA Track Field (317) 261-0500 x317 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.usatf.org USATF NEWS NOTES Volume 2, Number 72August 17, 2001 Parkersburg hosts USA Half-Marathon Champs Many of

Re: t-and-f: Top 10 list: What's your best running song ever?

2001-08-17 Thread philip_ponebshek
Kevin asked: I'd like to nominate Run Like Hell by Pink Floyd from the album The Wall as one of the best running songs ever. What do you all think. I'm somewhat embarrassed to remember that Hungry Like a Wolf by Duran Duran was fixed on my mind while I was training for and running my PR

Re: t-and-f: Top 10 list: What's your best running song ever?

2001-08-17 Thread Buck Jones
U2: Where the streets have no name We did a running video to this tune at a camp I once worked as a counselor. We had the campers running from the other side of the hill (racing actually) - a very long lens shot, heat waves, etc. The song opens with a very rythmic instrumental and as the

Re: t-and-f: Top 10 list: What's your best running song ever?

2001-08-17 Thread Andrew Eldredge-Martin
Of course there is always The Lonliness of the Middle-Distance Runner by Belle and Sebastian. They played the sonf live for a long time, but never released it until there most recent single Jonathan David on which it is a B-side. -drew -- Andrew Eldredge-Martin RD 2 Box

t-and-f: Clarke denies using steroids

2001-08-17 Thread Ken Parker
Sprinter denies knowingly taking banned steroid: TORONTO - Ten days after testing positive for a banned substance at the world track championships, Canadian sprinter Venolyn Clarke has denied doing anything wrong. I cannot at this time account for the finding of the test results, Clarke said

t-and-f: Zurich live results

2001-08-17 Thread Kebba Tolbert
http://www.weltklasse.ch/ Kebba _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

Re: t-and-f: Weltklasse TV

2001-08-17 Thread Subfour359
In a message dated 8/17/2001 7:18:47 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is Zurich still scheduled to be shown ... Aug 18 1:00-2:00 amESPN2Eastern time This is correct Walt Murphy would that be aug 18th at 1 am as in it is actually 1 am on aug 18th, or is it actually

t-and-f: best times for place, women's 3000 meters

2001-08-17 Thread Post, Marty
at Zurich today, behind Yegorova's 8:23.26, new best times for place, women's 3000 meters (discounting '93 Chinese National Games): 2nd - 8:24.19, Szabo 3rd - 8:25.62, Berhane Adere Marty Post Senior Editor Runner's World Magazine www.runnersworld.com

Re: t-and-f: Weltklasse TV

2001-08-17 Thread Kebba Tolbert
it's on at 1am rthis evening.. think of it as late friday night. Kebba From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: t-and-f: Weltklasse TV Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 14:51:24 EDT In a message dated 8/17/2001 7:18:47

Re: t-and-f: Top 10 list: What's your best running song ever?

2001-08-17 Thread GHTFNedit
In a message dated Fri, 17 Aug 2001 1:12:10 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Kevin Galbraith [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'd like to nominate Run Like Hell by Pink Floyd from the album The Wall as one of the best running songs ever. What do you all think. Aaron Copeland's Fanfare For The Common

Re: t-and-f: Zurich live results

2001-08-17 Thread Erik van Leeuwen
http://www.steeple.de/results01/gl-zuerich01.html saves you a lot of mouseclicks and is almost LIVE too. Best so far: Very impressive 7.58 by Boulami on 3000 steeple, beating all of the Kenyans. Erik - Original Message - From: Kebba Tolbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

t-and-f: chinese women

2001-08-17 Thread Michael Contopoulos
Why haven't the performances of the Chinese women been duplicated yet? Of course they were on drugs, but so are plenty of women now (or maybe not). I mean, they obliterated the record books. An epo'd Yegorova is still 20 seconds back in the 3k (no disrespect to those who think she is

Re: t-and-f: Top 10 list: What's your best running song ever?

2001-08-17 Thread Paul Alsdorf
And of course there's always their Stars of Track and Field, with its chorus of stars of track and field are beautiful people. -paul On Fri, 17 Aug 2001, Andrew Eldredge-Martin wrote: Of course there is always The Lonliness of the Middle-Distance Runner by Belle and Sebastian. They played

Re: t-and-f: chinese women

2001-08-17 Thread Wayne T. Armbrust
Michael Contopoulos wrote: I swear to God, maybe, like Mt Sac, the tracks in Beijing and Shanghai are short. The track at Mt. Sac is NOT short. At least it isn't if it actually measures the dimensions for which I did the calculations. It is actually 0.052 m long. COMPUTOMARX (TM)

t-and-f: MO and JD

2001-08-17 Thread Conway
Does anyone know the injury status of Maurice Greene and/or Jon Drummond ?? How severe are their injuries and will either be back on the circuit this season ?? Conway Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED]

t-and-f: Said-Sief - tested positive in edmonton

2001-08-17 Thread Jim McLatchie
Listening to the BBC radio broadcast from Zurich where it was stated that Said-Sief tested positive in Edmonton and will relinquish medal . Can anyone confirm if this is true!!! Jim McLatchie

Re: t-and-f: chinese women

2001-08-17 Thread P.F.Talbot
If the training reports were anywhere close to correct, no one has trained anywhere near as hard as they did either. Certainly the drugs allow for greater trainging, but I also suspect that few, if any, women have even tried to train with the volume or intensity that they did. How many people

Re: t-and-f: MO and JD

2001-08-17 Thread GHTFNedit
In a message dated Fri, 17 Aug 2001 4:56:22 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Conway [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Does anyone know the injury status of Maurice Greene and/or Jon Drummond ?? How severe are their injuries and will either be back on the circuit this season ?? Emanuel Hudson told me in

Re: t-and-f: chinese women

2001-08-17 Thread Michael Contopoulos
HAHA... sorry about that... its a little joke that my friends and I have over here on the East Coast. After all, what else could be the reason for all those fast times there every year? (We don't REALLY think the track is short!) M From: Wayne T. Armbrust [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Wayne

t-and-f: World 5000m Silver Medalist Tests Positive

2001-08-17 Thread Mike Moyes
From: Derek Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Derek Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: TF Edmonton medalist fails drugs test Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 13:52:44 -0600 Friday, 17 August, 2001, 19:45 GMT 20:45 UK World and Olympic 5000m silver medalist Ali Saidi-Sief has tested

t-and-f: Richard Chelimo - Former 10,000m record holder dies at 29

2001-08-17 Thread Eamonn Condon
The Irish Times Friday, August 17, 2001 Kenya's former 10,000 metres world record holder Richard Chelimo has died, aged 29, reports said today. Chelimo died at the Moi University Teaching Hospital at the Rift Valley town of Eldoret on Wednesday soon after he was re-admitted only hours

Re: t-and-f: chinese women

2001-08-17 Thread Oleg Shpyrko
Chinese national games are this year, and they are usually held in Sept. Stay tuned. Oleg If the training reports were anywhere close to correct, no one has trained anywhere near as hard as they did either. Certainly the drugs allow for greater trainging, but I also suspect that few, if

t-and-f: Said-Sief failed test was Zurich 1500m

2001-08-17 Thread Martin J. Dixon
I assume that this is now old news. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport/hi/english/athletics/newsid_1497000/1497143.stm Regards, Martin Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 16:46:00 EDT From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: t-and-f: Zurich 1500m The start lists are up, and El Guerrouj is running the 1500, but

t-and-f: Italian marathon runner fails dope test

2001-08-17 Thread Eamonn Condon
The Irish Times Friday, August 17, 2001 Italian marathon runner Roberto Barbi has failed a dope test and been immediately suspended by his federation, the Italian athletics federation said today. Barbi, a recent participant at the World Athletics Championships in Edmonton, underwent tests

t-and-f: USATF Release: Jones defeats Pintusevich-Block in Zurich

2001-08-17 Thread Usatfcom99
Contact:Tom Surber Media Information Manager USA Track Field (317) 261-0500 x317 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.usatf.org FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Friday, August 17, 2001 Jones defeats Pintusevich-Block in Zurich INDIANAPOLIS -

Re: t-and-f: Top 10 list: What's your best running song ever?

2001-08-17 Thread DANIEL DEYO
Back in the early 90's when the 24 hr relays were chopped to only 12, we played Smokin by Boston, Tom Sawyer by Rush, This is it by Kenny Loggins the Happy Trails remake by Van Halen. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 17, 2001 2:06

Re: t-and-f: chinese women

2001-08-17 Thread Roger Ruth
On Fri, 17 Aug 2001, Michael Contopoulos wrote: Why haven't the performances of the Chinese women been duplicated yet? Of course they were on drugs, but so are plenty of women now (or maybe not). Paul Talbot replied, If the training reports were anywhere close to correct, no one has

Re: t-and-f: Grote where are you?

2001-08-17 Thread Ryan Grote
Thanks for caring everybody. Its a busy time of year, x-c season starting means busy business. Plus, don't forget that I'm married and own a home. And I run sometimes, too. That said, there will be a GROTE POLL 2001, oh yes there will. The Wife and I are roadtripping to Greenville, SC, for

t-and-f: Now what's she saving for?

2001-08-17 Thread JimRTimes
In Edmonton, Suzy F-H said she was saving herself for Zurich. Tonight, she (as well as Regina Jacobs) were no-shows. What's she saving herself for now? Jim Gerweck Running Times

t-and-f: More jeers for Yegorova

2001-08-17 Thread Eamonn Condon
The Electronic Telegraph Saturday 18 August 2001 Tom Knight OLGA Yegorova ran into a chorus of boos at the Weltklasse Golden League meeting here last night after winning the 3,000 metres with the fastest time in the world for seven years. The reaction from the packed stands of the Stadion

Re: t-and-f: RE: built like tanks

2001-08-17 Thread vincent duncan
Women by enlarge lack the upper body strength and so they work the upper body and lower...look at Divers she can brnch 300lb.( sprinter) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Speaking of built like tanks- I've noticed the trend for some time, but at Edmonton it was particularly distinct when I

t-and-f: Mickey Grimes

2001-08-17 Thread Phil Weishaar
I am reposting part of a memo I wrote earlier. I'm thinking maybe many of you skipped over it due to it being part of a combination of things. Maybe somebody out there has some idea as to how this occurred? Mickey Grimes might be the luckiest sprinter ever to run for the US. Here he is

RE: t-and-f: Now what's she saving for?

2001-08-17 Thread Bettwy, Bob
I have heard that she was busy either performing brain surgery or lecturing at a nuclear physics symposium. Bob Bettwy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Director - Program Control Washington Group SRS Technologies (703) 351-7266 Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 21:41:47 EDT From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: t-and-f: Now

t-and-f: Top 10 list: What's your best running song ever?

2001-08-17 Thread Martin J. Dixon
Just sent in HTML format in error. Apologies if you are getting twice. It should have got bounced. Buck, You underestimate the song. IMHO, that is the best intro to the best song of the best rock album by the best group ever made, period. It transcends running but if you insist, the lyrics go on