t-and-f: MARION SPOKE. Enough, already?

2003-02-07 Thread Roger Ruth
On February 6th (only yesterday, can you believe?), Steve Bennett posted to this list news of an announcement by Marion Jones that she was discontinuing her athlete/coach relationship with Charlie Francis. Since then, there have been 27 further posts on the topic, MARION SPEAKS. Three of the

t-and-f: WPV--High School Record?

2003-02-18 Thread Roger Ruth
Thanks to Ken Stone for bringing to my attention the very impressive vaulting of 17-year-old Kira Costa, Fresno/San Joaquin, in winning the high school division of the women's vault at the Los Angeles Invitation on 15 February. Kira's 4.08m (13'4 1/2) places her 59th, and 15th-ranked American, on

Re: t-and-f: WPV--High School Record?

2003-02-18 Thread Roger Ruth
In addition to Mike Prizy's note on this question, posted to t-and-f, I received this further information, off-list, from Jack Shepard. I appreciate his permission to forward it to the list: After Kira cleared the record 13-4 1/2 on her third attempt, she had the bar raised to 13-6 1/2 and took

t-and-f: WPV Record

2003-02-21 Thread Roger Ruth
Earlier today, Kebba posted the subject line, Birmingham: W PV WR - 4.77, without additional details. This would have referred to Svetlana Feofanova's winning mark at this meet. In a later exchange on the VaultCanada mailing list, I took exception to the description of this result, by VaultnGus,

t-and-f: Rare loss for Feofanova

2003-03-07 Thread Roger Ruth
Results - Athina 2003 06 Feb 2003 Peania, Greece Thanks to Kebba Tolbert for the earlier post of all results. Pole Vault 1. ISINBAYENA ELENA RUS 4.65 (15'3), 2. FEOFANOVA SVETLANA RUS 4.60, 3. ELISDOTTIR EDDA ISL 4.50, 4. KOLEVA TANIA BUL 4.25, 5. PREZERAKOU EVRI GRE 4.25, 6. TSILIGIRI

t-and-f: WPV Combined Outdoor/Indoor Progression I

2003-03-14 Thread Roger Ruth
With the eagerly-awaited vault duel between Dragila and Feofanova now just two days away, I took a look at how the two have fared in indoor and outdoor record production. The 2001 rule change that permits an absolute world record to be achieved at indoor competitions has made it more complicated

t-and-f: WPV Combined Outdoor/Indoor Progression II

2003-03-14 Thread Roger Ruth
WOMEN'S POLE VAULT--COMBINED OUTDOOR/INDOOR PROGRESSION, Part 2 From 2001-01-01, world records can be set indoors; to be ratified, outdoor marks must equal or better the indoor record. vaulter outdoor indoor dateplace notes Stacy Dragila USA

t-and-f: Re: 1972 Vaulting Pole Snafu (formerly Eddie Hart . .)

2004-05-18 Thread Roger Ruth
On 2004-05-16 20:09, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *Bob Seagren's poles. I'm trying to remember the particulars. Of all the rulings in '72 this was the one I had the most problem with. It had to do with the pole Seagren was using being on the approved list. There was

t-and-f: Re: 1972 Vaulting Pole Snafu (formerly Eddie Hart . .)

2004-05-19 Thread Roger Ruth
Interesting, how much our memories of this occasion vary, after 32 years. Thanks to Ed Grant for chipping in. I think I've switched sides on the authority of recollection as a function of age at the time. It just may be that those who have responded as teen-agers at the time have a few more brain

t-and-f: Non-analytical positive???

2004-05-24 Thread Roger Ruth
On 5/24/04 4:32 PM, Martin J. Dixon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are they trying to get Jones ...on a non-analytical positive? You decide. The USADA press release: “I am aware of Mr. Burrton’s comments following today’s meeting. It is clear from those comments that Mr. Burton rejects the idea

Re: t-and-f: re:1972 vaulting pole snafu

2004-05-30 Thread Roger Ruth
I thought I was through commenting on this topic, although the questions raised about Adriaan Paulen's prejudices were tempting. Then, yesterday, Peter Heidenstrom asked, Could one of the experts on the list please explain - not how the snafu developed - but how any snafu could ever have begun in

Re: t-and-f: Webb Dragila Excel

2004-06-08 Thread Roger Ruth
Earlier today, Matthew wrote that Stacy Dragila had set a new world record in today's Grand Prix meet in Ostrava. Martin corrected that to Outdoor WR. I'm wondering whether, given current IAAF categories, there was any world record at all. Certainly, Stacy's 4.83 was the best outdoor vault,

Re: t-and-f: Webb Dragila Excel

2004-06-08 Thread Roger Ruth
Earlier today, I wrote: BTW, Yanks. Dragila's 4.83m converts to 14'10. Feofanova's 4.86m converts to 15'11 1/4. Too bad, that Stacy didn't go for 16 feet, a mark that would be a new World Record, however categorized, and a goal for the women's vault that even I, as an ex-Kansan, could

t-and-f: Dragila's National Records

2004-06-08 Thread Roger Ruth
My files show these as Stacy's *36* USA records, including today's world outdoor best. Incidentally, the first of these, the 3.05 meters indoors, was under her maiden name of Mikaelson. It will be noted that I'm missing the exact date and venue of this and her 3.35 indoor mark. I'd appreciate help

t-and-f: Women's PV National Records

2004-06-19 Thread Roger Ruth
It's not been long since I last posted the women's PV national records, but I hope I can be excused for doing so now--for two reasons. One is that a crash of Microsoft Entourage took with it two months of my e-mail files, so I don't know just when I last sent an update or what it said. A more

t-and-f: Women's Olympic PV Qualifiers

2004-06-24 Thread Roger Ruth
Women's Olympic PV Qualifiers, best height by country, a/o 17 June 2004 A-standard 4.40m (14'5); B-standard 4.25m (13'11 1/4) Qualifying period--1 Jan 2003 to 9 August 2004 A country may enter one vaulter who has met only the B-standard. If entering more than one vaulter, to a maximum of three,

t-and-f: Men's Olympic PV Qualifiers

2004-06-24 Thread Roger Ruth
Men's Olympic PV Qualifiers, best height by country, a/o 17 June 2004 A-standard 5.65m (18'6 1/4); B-standard 5.55m (18'2 1/2) Qualifying period--1 Jan 2003 to 9 August 2004 A country may enter one vaulter who has met only the B-standard. If entering more than one vaulter, to a maximum of three,

t-and-f: World Record for Isinbayeva

2004-06-27 Thread Roger Ruth
Yelena Isinbayeva's 4.87m in winning the Norwich Union GP vault at Gatehead yesterday betters the official world record held by Svetlana Feofanova (4.86i) and the world outdoor best (4.83m) set earlier this month by Stacy Dragila. Also getting mighty close to the sixteen-foot barrier--15'11 1/2.

t-and-f: World Record for Isinbayeva--correction

2004-06-27 Thread Roger Ruth
Sorry, I wrote that Feofanova held the world record. The 4.86i was, in fact, Isinbayeva's own, set at Budapest on March 6. Yelena Isinbayeva's 4.87m in winning the Norwich Union GP vault at Gatehead yesterday betters the official world record held by Svetlana Feofanova (4.86i) and the world

Re: t-and-f: World Record for Isinbayeva--correction

2004-06-27 Thread Roger Ruth
Earlier today, I wrote that Yelena Isinbayeva's 4.87m in winning the Norwich Union GP vault . . . is getting mighty close to the sixteen-foot barrier--15'11 1/2. Walt Murphy replied, I realize that some people might use a different conversion formula, but Track and Field News' Big Green Book

Re: t-and-f: 4.14m by Katerina Stefanidou, 14yo

2004-07-03 Thread Roger Ruth
Earlier today, Michalis Nikitaridis wrote, A 14-year-old Greek girl, Katerina Stefanidou, broke the junior's and U18 records for Greece, clearing 4.14m in the Greek U18 National Championships. This mark is the an all time world best among 14-year-olds athletes in the women's pole vault.

t-and-f: Re: Svetlana Feofanova 16 feet!

2004-07-04 Thread Roger Ruth
In my excitement at Feofanova's 16 feet, I missed the significance of Rogowska's third-place mark. Her 4.65m replaces Pyrek's 4.62m as the Polish national record and interrupts a skein of 29 improvements or ties of the record by Pyrek, dating back to 1998! It finally happened - Russian Svetlana

t-and-f: Women's National PV Records

2004-07-08 Thread Roger Ruth
It doesn't seem long since I last posted the women's national vault records, but I don't know just how long because I lost that file, among others, in a Microsoft Entourage crash. In any event, there's been a good deal of action in this record list, and with national championships and olympic

t-and-f: Women's Olympic PV Qualifiers Update

2004-07-12 Thread Roger Ruth
Women's Olympic PV Qualifiers, by Country, a/o 12 July 2004 A-standard 4.40m; B-standard 4.25m--1 Jan 2003 to 9 August 2004 4.43Alejandra GarciaARG 04o 4.40Kym HoweAUS 04o 4.40Wendy Young AUS 04o 4.30

t-and-f: Men's Olympic PV Qualifiers Update

2004-07-12 Thread Roger Ruth
Men's Olympic PV Qualifiers, by Country, a/o 12 July 2004 A-standard 5.65m; B-standard 5.55m--1 Jan 2003 to 9 August 2004 5.86Dmitri Markov AUS 03o 5.71Viktor Chistiakov AUS 03o 5.70Paul BurgessAUS 04o 5.65Steve HookerAUS

t-and-f: Publicly-funded BS

2004-07-12 Thread Roger Ruth
I've just finished watching the evening news hour on PBS (Even in Canada, you say: pity.) It featured a long segment on the current drug allegations against some USA track and field athletes. My prejudice against this sort of guilty until proven innocent media circus is so strong that I shouldn't

t-and-f: Egg on my face?

2004-07-19 Thread Roger Ruth
Okay, so maybe I did get a little carried away with there being seven 15-footers (and seven of the current world top twelve) competing in the USA Women's PV trials. As it turned out, only Stacy Dragila bettered 15' (4.57m) in the finals. In case you haven't seen the results, in brief they are:

t-and-f: Men's Olympic PV Qualifiers Update

2004-07-29 Thread Roger Ruth
Men's Olympic PV Qualifiers, by Country, a/o 29 July 2004 With the end of the qualifying period just nine days away, here's an update on men who have met the entry standards. A-standard 5.65m (18'6 1/4); B-standard 5.55m (18'2 1.5) Qualifying period--1 Jan 2003 to 9 August 2004 A country may

t-and-f: Women's Olympic PV Qualifiers, Update

2004-07-29 Thread Roger Ruth
Women's Olympic PV Qualifiers, best height by country, a/o 29 July 2004 With the end of the qualifying period just eleven days away, here's an update on women who have met the entry standards. A-standard 4.40m (14'5); B-standard 4.25m (13'11 1/4) Qualifying period--1 Jan 2003 to 9 August 2004 A

t-and-f: Most Consistent Top Vaulters

2004-08-02 Thread Roger Ruth
The following charts show the number of performances for each vaulter in the top 100 recorded during this outdoor season. The bracketed heights are the highest and lowest in the top 100 for that vaulter: Men's Most Consistent Performers a/o 2 August Toby Stevenson USA 9 (6.00

Re: t-and-f: Most Consistent Top Vaulters

2004-08-03 Thread Roger Ruth
Earlier today, Uri and Randy posted their exceptions to my lists of most consistent vaulters. Uri's was on the list's validity as a predictor of performance in Athens. Randy's objected to the greater number of competition opportunities of USA vaulters than others at this point in the season. I

t-and-f: Men's Outdoor PV Records

2004-08-10 Thread Roger Ruth
A pre-Olympic present for the vault fans on the list-- NATIONAL OUTDOOR POLE VAULT RECORDS--MEN a/o 10 August 2004 Åland 4.95 Rune Sjölund 1978-06-30 Vasteras Albania 5.40 Sazan Fisheku 1991-07-07 Athina Algeria 5.34 Lakhdar Rahal 1979-06-04

t-and-f: National Men's PV Bests

2004-08-15 Thread Roger Ruth
Heading into the Olympic competition, these are the best vaulters for the 48 countries represented in Mirko Jalava's 2004 outdoor world deep list (minimum of 5.00m for list inclusion). Incidentally, the 5-meter threshold is a tougher standard for men than the women's 3.60m. Only 48 of the 208

t-and-f: National Women's PV Bests

2004-08-15 Thread Roger Ruth
Heading into the Olympic competition, these are the best vaulters for the 52 countries represented in Mirko Jalava's 2004 outdoor world deep list (minimum of 3.60m for list inclusion). Argentina Alejandra Garcia4.43 Australia Kym Howe/Wendy Young4.40 Austria Carmen

t-and-f: Top Olympic Hopefuls--Women's PV

2004-08-18 Thread Roger Ruth
In its August 2nd issue, Sports Illustrated offered its medal picks. For the women's pole vault, they were: Gold--Svetlana Feofanova, Russia Silver--Yelena Isinbayeva, Russia Bronze--Stacy Dragila, United States This time, I can't take exception to their three medal nominees, although the order

t-and-f: Shocker! Americans out!

2004-08-21 Thread Roger Ruth
ResultsStartlist - Pole Vault Women - Final By Event Tuesday, August 24, 2004 - 20:55 Order AthleteCountry2004 Personal 1 Boslak Vanessa FRA4.51 4.51 2 Rogowska Anna

t-and-f: Top MPV Finishers and Seasonal Bests

2004-08-27 Thread Roger Ruth
I wonder whether any other events showed five of the top six finishers posting their seasonal best marks? Great, gutty competition! Rank Name Result 1 MACK Timothy USA 5.95 SB, PB. OR 2 STEVENSON Toby USA 5.90 3

t-and-f: World Record in Decathlon

2004-09-28 Thread Roger Ruth
The IAAF website is showing a mark of 8150 points for Marie Collonville, of France, in winning the decathlon at the IAAF World Combined Events Challenge, held in Talence last weekend (September 25-26). Since the IAAF previously had announced that any score over 8000 would be ratified as an initial

t-and-f: $5,600,000 payouts in September!

2004-09-28 Thread Roger Ruth
Bob Ramsack's current issue of Track Profile Report [EMAIL PROTECTED] shows earnings of track and field athletes for the month of September that total $5.6 million. The largest of these, of course, came in the splitting of the Golden League Jackpot by triple jumper Christian Olsson and hurdler

t-and-f: World Record in Decathlon

2004-09-28 Thread Roger Ruth
Earlier today, I wrote: The IAAF website is showing a mark of 8150 points for Marie Collonville, of France, in winning the decathlon at the IAAF World Combined Events Challenge, held in Talence last weekend (September 25-26). Since the IAAF previously had announced that any score over 8000 would

t-and-f: Team Decathlon?

2004-09-30 Thread Roger Ruth
March 17th, I wrote, At risk of appearing very naive, can I ask whether any list members have had any experience with a team decathlon? If not, maybe we could work out a structure. I would see a team decathlon as being primarily a dual-meet, high school event, with one athlete from each school

t-and-f: Decathlon/Heptathlon

2004-10-01 Thread Roger Ruth
Long-time subscribers to the list would know that my paramount interest in track-and-field statistics is the women's pole vault and might be surprised at my current posts on the women's decathlon. Some of those might have guessed that I'd have an ulterior motive, related to the vault. True. From

t-and-f: Re: Women's National Outdoor PV Records 2004

2004-10-28 Thread Roger Ruth
Earlier today, when I posted remarks about year-to-year stability of national record holders, I could well have included something about my own record for making at least one dumb mistake in each annual update! This time, it was in the paragraph about scarcity of new athletes reaching the records

t-and-f: Indoor Heptathlon?

2004-11-21 Thread Roger Ruth
A friend who knows of my interest in the women's decathlon has written to ask what I might have heard of any prospects for IAAF recognition of a women's indoor heptathlon, and what I would see as the possible selection and order of events for such a competition. Well, for starters, I didn't even

t-and-f: List Participation

2004-11-24 Thread Roger Ruth
After my recent post on the women's heptathlon, I received an off-list reply that commented on the dramatic decline in messages he had received from t-and-f and wondered if that was experienced by other members. I wrote back that it certainly was part of my experience, with the traffic having

t-and-f: Some Landmarks in the Women's Vault

2004-11-25 Thread Roger Ruth
While looking for data on list membership, I ran across this Landmarks item that had been addressed to t-and-f, but I think never sent. If it's a repeat, I apologize. First vaulters over some significant imperial-measure heights: 11' Jana Edwards (USA) 1983 12' Zhang Chunzen (CHN)

Re: t-and-f: Indoor Heptathlon?

2004-11-27 Thread Roger Ruth
When I sent a message on this topic, on November 21st, it included the remark, The men's indoor and outdoor pentathlons differ so greatly in their events that they might be considered totally different disciplines. They share only the long jump. Men's Indoor PentathlonMen's Outdoor

t-and-f: Jones Accusation

2004-12-03 Thread Roger Ruth
If I'd had any doubt that the t-and-f list was comatose, today's lack of any response to news reports on Marion Jones' use of performance-enhancing drugs would resolve those doubts. Here, we have the most outstanding female sprinter of the last decade claimed by BALCO CEO Victor Conte to have

t-and-f: Women's National Indoor PV Records

2004-12-09 Thread Roger Ruth
With the first indoor meets beginning soon, here's an update on women's national records in the pole vault. Women's National Indoor Pole Vault Records a/o 2004-12-09 Algeria 4.02i Linda Meziani 1999-02-06 2 Montceau-les-Mines Andorra 2.45i Lorena Alverez

t-and-f: Best Vaulters with Bamboo, Metal

2004-12-15 Thread Roger Ruth
A friend recently wrote to ask whether 1960 Olympic Siver Medalist Ron Morris ever cleared 15' with a bamboo pole. As usual, when I know I'm in over my head, I forwarded the question to Gérard Dumas, the greatest vault statistician ever. And as usual, Gérard not only answered the question (no),

t-and-f: National Depth 2004

2005-01-03 Thread Roger Ruth
Hi, all: I'm about ready to start posting Top 100 national depth charts for the 2004 season, but thought first I'd check to see whether darkwing will accept my new e-mail address and whether, indeed, [EMAIL PROTECTED] still exists. One wouldn't know, from recent traffic on the list. Since this

t-and-f: National Depth--Shot Put

2005-01-07 Thread Roger Ruth
The charts summarize the number of athletes each country placed in the world top-100 outdoor rankings for 2004 (plus ties) and the highest-ranked of these. Since one or two placings may represent only exceptional individuals, rather than national program strength, I've listed only countries with

t-and-f: National Depth--100m

2005-01-07 Thread Roger Ruth
The charts summarize the number of athletes each country placed in the world top-100 outdoor rankings for 2004 (plus ties) and the highest-ranked of these. Since one or two placings may represent only exceptional individuals, rather than national program strength, I've listed only countries with

t-and-f: National Depth--5000m

2005-01-07 Thread Roger Ruth
The charts summarize the number of athletes each country placed in the world top-100 outdoor rankings for 2004 (plus ties) and the highest-ranked of these. Since one or two placings may represent only exceptional individuals, rather than national program strength, I've listed only countries with

t-and-f: National Depth--High Jump

2005-01-07 Thread Roger Ruth
The charts summarize the number of athletes each country placed in the world top-100 outdoor rankings for 2004 (plus ties) and the highest-ranked of these. Since one or two placings may represent only exceptional individuals, rather than national program strength, I've listed only countries with

t-and-f: National Depth--Long Jump

2005-01-08 Thread Roger Ruth
The charts summarize the number of athletes each country placed in the world top-100 outdoor rankings for 2004 (plus ties) and the highest-ranked of these. Since one or two placings may represent only exceptional individuals, rather than national program strength, I've listed only countries with

t-and-f: National Depth--Hurdles

2005-01-08 Thread Roger Ruth
The charts summarize the number of athletes each country placed in the world top-100 outdoor rankings for 2004 (plus ties) and the highest-ranked of these. Since one or two placings may represent only exceptional individuals, rather than national program strength, I've listed only countries with

t-and-f: National Depth--800 Meters

2005-01-09 Thread Roger Ruth
The charts summarize the number of athletes each country placed in the world top-100 outdoor rankings for 2004 (plus ties) and the highest-ranked of these. Since one or two placings may represent only exceptional individuals, rather than national program strength, I've listed only countries with

t-and-f: National Depth--800 Meters, again

2005-01-09 Thread Roger Ruth
Sorry, left off the women's stats the first time. MEN'S 800 METERS 2004 Country Top 100 Highest Kenya20 1 United States 10 22 Spain 5 7 Canada 5 24 France 5 29 Morocco 3 5 Russia 3 8 South Africa 3 9 Germany 3 11 Algeria 3

t-and-f: National Depth--Marathon

2005-01-09 Thread Roger Ruth
The charts summarize the number of athletes each country placed in the world top-100 outdoor rankings for 2004 (plus ties) and the highest-ranked of these. Since one or two placings may represent only exceptional individuals, rather than national program strength, I've listed only countries with

t-and-f: National Depth--Racewalking

2005-01-10 Thread Roger Ruth
The charts summarize the number of athletes each country placed in the world top-100 outdoor rankings for 2004 (plus ties) and the highest-ranked of these. Since one or two placings may represent only exceptional individuals, rather than national program strength, I've listed only countries with

t-and-f: Re: National Depth--Marathon

2005-01-11 Thread Roger Ruth
Ryan Lamppa advises me that the U.S. men now have three top-100 marathoners. As of late October, Mbarak Hussein, shown at #13 on the world list for Kenya, has American citizenship and joins # 24 Khalid Khannoucihi and #54 Meb Keflezighi in representing USA. Cheers, Roger

t-and-f: National Depth--Pole Vault

2005-01-11 Thread Roger Ruth
The charts summarize the number of athletes each country placed in the world top-100 outdoor rankings for 2004 (plus ties) and the highest-ranked of these. Since one or two placings may represent only exceptional individuals, rather than national program strength, I've listed only countries with

t-and-f: Women's Pole Vault, again

2005-01-11 Thread Roger Ruth
Horrors! Checking my return copy of the vault stats, I found I had left CANADA off the chart. With three reps led by national record holder Dana Ellis, they rank just below Spain. WOMEN'S POLE VAULT 2004 Country Top 104 Highest United States 24 3 Russia10 1 Germany

t-and-f: Re: National Depth--Racewalk

2005-01-12 Thread Roger Ruth
Posted for Michael Roth, who apparently is having some problem with list access. You'll note his correction of my remarks about exaggerated hip motion in racewalking-- Roger(i tried sending this to the list, but it seems to have gotten lost - you may post it if you'd like)   You are 1000% percent

t-and-f: National Depth--Steeplechase

2005-01-12 Thread Roger Ruth
The charts summarize the number of athletes each country placed in the world top-100 outdoor rankings for 2004 (plus ties) and the highest-ranked of these. Since one or two placings may represent only exceptional individuals, rather than national program strength, I've listed only countries with

t-and-f: National Depth--Hammer

2005-01-12 Thread Roger Ruth
The charts summarize the number of athletes each country placed in the world top-100 outdoor rankings for 2004 (plus ties) and the highest-ranked of these. Since one or two placings may represent only exceptional individuals, rather than national program strength, I've listed only countries with

t-and-f: National Depth--400m Hurdles

2005-01-13 Thread Roger Ruth
The charts summarize the number of athletes each country placed in the world top-100 outdoor rankings for 2004 (plus ties) and the highest-ranked of these. Since one or two placings may represent only exceptional individuals, rather than national program strength, I've listed only countries with

t-and-f: National Depth--Discus

2005-01-14 Thread Roger Ruth
The charts summarize the number of athletes each country placed in the world top-100 outdoor rankings for 2004 (plus ties) and the highest-ranked of these. Since one or two placings may represent only exceptional individuals, rather than national program strength, I've listed only countries with

t-and-f: National Depth--400 Meters

2005-01-14 Thread Roger Ruth
The charts summarize the number of athletes each country placed in the world top-100 outdoor rankings for 2004 (plus ties) and the highest-ranked of these. Since one or two placings may represent only exceptional individuals, rather than national program strength, I've listed only countries with

t-and-f: National Depth--1500 Meters

2005-01-15 Thread Roger Ruth
The charts summarize the number of athletes each country placed in the world top-100 outdoor rankings for 2004 (plus ties) and the highest-ranked of these. Since one or two placings may represent only exceptional individuals, rather than national program strength, I've listed only countries with

t-and-f: National Depth--Triple Jump

2005-01-16 Thread Roger Ruth
The charts summarize the number of athletes each country placed in the world top-100 outdoor rankings for 2004 (plus ties) and the highest-ranked of these. Since one or two placings may represent only exceptional individuals, rather than national program strength, I've listed only countries with

t-and-f: Triple Jump, add

2005-01-16 Thread Roger Ruth
In adding a note to the women's TJ summary about the first eight placers on the world list all setting new national records, I managed to forget to include the usual data on number of countries represented and the mark necessary to make the top 100. There were 35 countries represented and

t-and-f: National Depth--Javelin

2005-01-16 Thread Roger Ruth
The charts summarize the number of athletes each country placed in the world top-100 outdoor rankings for 2004 (plus ties) and the highest-ranked of these. Since one or two placings may represent only exceptional individuals, rather than national program strength, I've listed only countries with

t-and-f: National Depth--Multis

2005-01-17 Thread Roger Ruth
The charts summarize the number of athletes each country placed in the world top-100 outdoor rankings for 2004 (plus ties) and the highest-ranked of these. Since one or two placings may represent only exceptional individuals, rather than national program strength, I've listed only countries with

t-and-f: National Depth Wrap-up

2005-01-18 Thread Roger Ruth
The decathlon and heptathlon charts posted yesterday finished the national depth data summaries for this year. I've done separate lists of all of the men's events and women's events, in the order they're usually reported and without my appended comments. If you'd like a copy, drop me a note.

t-and-f: Hello, Up There? . . .

2005-01-18 Thread Roger Ruth
. . . From Down Under: In a meet last Saturday in Perry Lakes, Australian Paul Burgess improved his PB in the pole vault from 5.77m to 5.91m (or by about 5 1/2 inches). That should make him the event leader in the 2005 *outdoor* season for a very long time. Perhaps more importantly, that mark

Re: t-and-f: Sergei Bubka pole vault competition results

2005-02-13 Thread Roger Ruth
Thanks to Rudolph Schmidt for several interesting posts today. The one about Seb Coe was fascinating. There's a little more to the Donetsk vault competition than he told: On Sunday, February 13, 2005, at 09:57 AM, R. Schmidt wrote:

Re: t-and-f: Balkan Games results

2005-02-16 Thread Roger Ruth
On Wednesday, February 16, 2005, at 12:06 PM, Michalis Nikitaridis wrote: It was the second meeting in a row that Kostas Filippidis attempted for the world juniors indoor record in the pole vault. And today his vaults at 5.67m were much better than those on Sunday, but lost in details. Later,

t-and-f: Re: Young Vaulters

2005-02-17 Thread Roger Ruth
When I sent this yesterday, I asked, Interesting question: Even if 5.00 is a very difficult challenge for 16-year-old vaulters, why would four athletes clear that height in 2001 and none since? A (mercifully) off-list reply today provides a very good answer: sloppy research. Michel

t-and-f: Isinbayeva, again

2005-02-18 Thread Roger Ruth
This time at today's Norwich Union meet in Birmingham-- wPV 1 Yelena Isinbayeva (RUS) 4.88 [INDOOR WORLD RECORD] (4.60-o, 4.79-o, 4.88-xo) 2 Svetlana Feofanova (RUS) 4.70 (4.45-o, 4.60-o, 4.70-xo, 4.79-xxx) 3 Anna Rogowska (POL) 4.45 (4.30-xo, 4.45-xxo, 4.60-xxx) 4 Dana Ellis-Buller (CAN) 4.30

t-and-f: Women's PV NR Tenure

2005-02-21 Thread Roger Ruth
WPV National Record-holder for Longest Time? Just got to wondering--which female vaulter holds or has held her national record for the longest time without interruption? A quick guess before peeking--Emma George, of Australia, and Daniela Bártová of Czech Republic must be in the running. Perhaps

t-and-f: Women's Decathlon National Records

2005-03-20 Thread Roger Ruth
Since we now have a first IAAF World Record in the women's decathlon (8150 points--Marie Collonvillé), it seems a reasonable time to begin an accounting of national records in the event. The list that follows is of the national record or best known performance of athletes from 15 countries. The

t-and-f: The Rise of Isinbayeva

2005-03-27 Thread Roger Ruth
One way of charting the spectacular rise of Yelena Isinbayeva as a commanding figure in the women's pole vault is to look at the top 20 performances each outdoor season since 2000. It can be seen that the dominance of Stacy Dragila in the first two of those years has nearly been duplicated by that

t-and-f: Women's National Vault Records

2005-04-09 Thread Roger Ruth
With the outdoor season getting underway, I've updated my files of national records in the women's pole vault as shown below. I appreciate the help I've had in this from Heinrich Hubbeling, Gyorgy Ciski, Grard Dumas, Carole Fuchs, Mirko Jalava, Stepanos Misiunas, and Michel Saint-Raymond.

t-and-f: World Decathlon Record

2005-04-16 Thread Roger Ruth
Bob Ramsak writes in Track Profile Report [EMAIL PROTECTED]> that Lithuanian Austra Skujyte completed a record-breaking decathlon performance in yesterday's Audrey Walton Combined Events at the University of Missouri. Skujyte scored 8366 points in the two-day competition, bettering the world

t-and-f: Re: Decathlon

2005-04-16 Thread Roger Ruth
Sorry for a typo (senior's moment) in reporting Lindsay Grigoriev's third-place score as the same 6821 of second-place Breanna Eveland. Grigoriev's total was 6641. Roger

t-and-f: USA vs. USSR Duals

2005-04-30 Thread Roger Ruth
There may be list members so young they wouldn't remember the USA/USSR meets that dominated track and field interest in the late 50s and early 60s. There may be other list members as old as I am who remember the interest but have forgotten all the details. Does anyone know of an archive (or

t-and-f: Modesto Results?

2005-05-07 Thread Roger Ruth
Has anyone found a site that gives results of the Modesto Relays. The event website seems good in listing schedules and entrants, but doesn't seem to have any link to results. An alternative source would be appreciated. Cheers, Roger

t-and-f: Modesto Vault Results

2005-05-08 Thread Roger Ruth
Yesterday, I wrote, Has anyone found a site that gives results of the Modesto Relays? The event website seems good in listing schedules and entrants, but doesn't seem to have any link to results. An alternative source would be appreciated. Quick responses from Mike Takaha, Karen Locke, and

Re: t-and-f: Europe snubs Balco-linked Jones

2005-05-11 Thread Roger Ruth
On Wednesday, May 11, 2005, at 06:07 PM, R. Schmidt wrote: US sprinters Marion Jones and Tim Montgomery will not be invited to race in Europe this summer because of links to the Bay Area Laboratory Cooperative. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/athletics/4533055.stm Balco founder Victor Conte is

t-and-f: Early t-and-f@darkwing archives?

2005-05-18 Thread Roger Ruth
The address I've used in the past for the early list archives doesn't seem to work for me now. Does anyone have a current URL for those archives? Thanks

t-and-f: Women's Steeple

2005-05-19 Thread Roger Ruth
I've had a question about an exhibition women's steeplechase race that was part of the 1996 USA Olympic Trials meet. Anyone know who might have information about this event? Thanks for any help. Roger

t-and-f: Motivating Young Vaulters

2005-05-23 Thread Roger Ruth
It's easy to get discouraged, in any activity, when you judge your efforts by the best of others you hear most about. That can easily happen in our sport when the only women's marks that count seem to be those above four meters and the only men's marks that count are those above five meters.

Re: t-and-f: reaction times

2005-06-08 Thread Roger Ruth
On Wednesday, June 8, 2005, at 01:59 PM, Randy Treadway wrote: Dan's idea has merit, but doesn't address all the issues. I have an idea that addresses the best of what Dan is saying and also keeps away from rolling starts. It goes in this sequence: etc. I can't claim any qualification

t-and-f: USA vs. USSR Dual--2004

2005-06-27 Thread Roger Ruth
Another forum (PoleVaultPower.com) has returned to discussion of the China/Russian agreement on mutual assistance in preparation for the Beijing Olympic Games. This was prompted by Craig Masback's reply to a question on the matter yesterday. If you missed this the first time around, Bill Briggs'

t-and-f: To: Randy Treadway koala@earthlink.net

2005-06-27 Thread Roger Ruth
On Monday, June 27, 2005, at 02:41 PM, Randy Treadway wrote: I wouldn't necessarily bother with putting together a virtual Soviet Union team if you're trying to forecast how a Russia-China-USA triangular would turn out. Just stick with Russia as currently constituted. It's highly unlikely

t-and-f: USA vs. USSR 2004--Day Two

2005-06-28 Thread Roger Ruth
USA vs. “USSR” (Armenia, Azerbaijan, Belarus, Estonia, Georgia, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Latvia, Lithuania, Moldova, Russia, Tajikistan, Ukraine and Uzbekistan) Virtual Dual Meet—2004 Men Two athletes per team for each event, scoring 5-3-2-1. --Day 2-- 200 meters: 1. Shawn Crawford USA 19.79

t-and-f: USA vs. USSR 2004 Dual--Women

2005-06-29 Thread Roger Ruth
If you missed the earlier posts of men's results for a 2004 virtual USA/USSR dual, this is just a fun exercise of looking at how the highly popular dual meets of the 50s and 60s might have turned out, based on personal bests in last year's outdoor season. United States of America vs. Union of

t-and-f: USA vs. USSR Dual--Women, Day 2

2005-06-30 Thread Roger Ruth
USA vs. USSR Virtual Dual 2004--Women, Day Two 200 meters: 1. Allyson Felix USA 22.18 2. Tonette Dyer USA 22.34 3. Irina Khabarova RUS 22.34 4. Yuliya Tabakova RUS 22.51 (If you may wonder how I broke the tie between Dyer and Khabarova, instead of carrying the fractional points forward

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