On 5/12/2011 9:45 PM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote:
2011/5/12 Nathan Edgars IInerou...@gmail.com:
On 5/12/2011 2:31 PM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote:
2011/5/12 flylowfligh...@googlemail.com:
What do we do with dual-carriage ways ?
Sometimes there exist paved connections between both directions.
2011/5/13 Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com:
OK, but there's still the issue of a so-called flush median. I think in a
rural area with few intersections this would be called a dual carriageway. I
can't find an image, but Interstate 90 used to have one over Lookout Pass in
Idaho. You can
On 5/13/2011 6:47 AM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote:
We should make a difference between physically impossible and
physically possible but legally forbidden. This is important for a
series of situations, e.g. an emergency car in action could cross a
road marking without problems (paying attention to
2011/5/13 Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com:
On 5/13/2011 6:47 AM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote:
An emergency vehicle could also cross a grass median if there's no raised
barrier.
yes, and a person can jump over a 2ft wall and climb a 8ft wall. A
series of bollards is no barrier to bicycles
Am 11.05.2011 23:45, schrieb Stefan Bethke:
Am 11.05.2011 um 23:01 schrieb Tobias Knerr:
M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote:
If you follow the convention that each way should be drawn along the
center of the real-world feature, then the width of e.g. a sidewalk can
still be determined at any point
2011/5/11 Tobias Knerr o...@tobias-knerr.de
M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote:
If you follow the convention that each way should be drawn along the
center of the real-world feature, then the width of e.g. a sidewalk can
still be determined at any point along the road from just the single
outline
Sorry for my previous unfinished mail, I didn't want to send it.
To summarize what I intended to say:
* I assume that most road shapes are adequately described with just a
single outline area for the entire road, and no one has provided a
counter example yet.
* If everyone mapped road parts as
to the side, and
about two meters above the roadway, with occasional steps down to the roadway
(the road ascends a steep hill on a diagonal).
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Subject :Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - area:highway
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Date :Thu May 12 03:09:50 America
Am 12.05.2011 um 10:50 schrieb Tobias Knerr:
Sorry for my previous unfinished mail, I didn't want to send it.
To summarize what I intended to say:
* I assume that most road shapes are adequately described with just a
single outline area for the entire road, and no one has provided a
2011/5/12 Stefan Bethke s...@lassitu.de
Am 12.05.2011 um 10:50 schrieb Tobias Knerr:
Sorry for my previous unfinished mail, I didn't want to send it.
To summarize what I intended to say:
* I assume that most road shapes are adequately described with just a
single outline area for
On 5/12/2011 7:58 AM, j...@jfeldredge.com wrote:
Also, sidewalks are not always directly next to the driving lanes. There are
sometimes grassy borders between the driving lanes and the sidewalk.
Typically, this is a meter or so, but can be wider. On one street here in
Nashville, Tennessee,
2011/5/12 j...@jfeldredge.com:
Also, sidewalks are not always directly next to the driving lanes. There are
sometimes grassy borders between the driving lanes and the sidewalk.
Typically, this is a meter or so, but can be wider. On one street here in
Nashville, Tennessee, USA, the
Stefan Bethke wrote:
Am 12.05.2011 um 10:50 schrieb Tobias Knerr:
* I assume that most road shapes are adequately described with just a
single outline area for the entire road, and no one has provided a
counter example yet.
Ever been to any city? Should I post photos just looking out the
Am 12.05.2011 19:03, schrieb Tobias Knerr:
Stefan Bethke wrote:
Am 12.05.2011 um 10:50 schrieb Tobias Knerr:
* I assume that most road shapes are adequately described with just a
single outline area for the entire road, and no one has provided a
counter example yet.
Ever been to any city?
2011/5/12 fly lowfligh...@googlemail.com:
What do we do with dual-carriage ways ?
Sometimes there exist paved connections between both directions. Maybe
blocked by a barrier but that is no need.
if they are constantly connected (no change of the paving, no physical
barrier) it's actually not
On 5/12/2011 2:31 PM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote:
2011/5/12 flylowfligh...@googlemail.com:
What do we do with dual-carriage ways ?
Sometimes there exist paved connections between both directions. Maybe
blocked by a barrier but that is no need.
if they are constantly connected (no change of the
Am 12.05.2011 22:27, schrieb Stefan Bethke:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=53.569837lon=10.027266zoom=18layers=M
For comparison:
http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8hq=ll=53.569829,10.026878spn=0.0015,0.003468t=hz=19
(about two years old, a couple of details have changed since.)
As you
On 5/11/2011 5:09 AM, Flaimo wrote:
it has been brought up a couple of times in the german forums, so it
seems there is a need for mapping the dimensions of roads (similar to
riverbanks for rivers). the tag itself was suggested by another user,
but i thought it would be a good idea to put it
2011/5/11 Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com:
There's a problem if this is treated like landuse.
it is not landuse, so there is no problem. There is still space for
landuse=highway.
The highway landuse goes
up to the edge of the right-of-way, and includes sidewalks and and clear
zones,
On 5/11/2011 7:34 AM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote:
2011/5/11 Nathan Edgars IInerou...@gmail.com:
There's a problem if this is treated like landuse.
it is not landuse, so there is no problem. There is still space for
landuse=highway.
The proposal makes reference to landuse, in particular
2011/5/11 Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com:
The proposal makes reference to landuse, in particular stating that one
might cut off adjacent landuses at its border. But the two positions on
landuse are that it shouldn't be cut or that it should be cut at the
right-of-way line, not at the edge
On 5/11/2011 10:47 AM, Flaimo wrote:
you misread that. because if its imprecise definition, there are still
heated discussions on how detailed landuses should be mapped. some
leave out the areas of the streets, some don't. all i wanted to state
out is, that this isn't a part of the area:highway
2011/5/11 Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com
On 5/11/2011 10:47 AM, Flaimo wrote:
you misread that. because if its imprecise definition, there are still
heated discussions on how detailed landuses should be mapped. some
leave out the areas of the streets, some don't. all i wanted to state
On 5/11/2011 11:15 AM, Simone Saviolo wrote:
2011/5/11 Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com mailto:nerou...@gmail.com
On 5/11/2011 10:47 AM, Flaimo wrote:
you misread that. because if its imprecise definition, there are
still
heated discussions on how detailed
2011/5/11 Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com
On 5/11/2011 11:15 AM, Simone Saviolo wrote:
2011/5/11 Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com mailto:nerou...@gmail.com
On 5/11/2011 10:47 AM, Flaimo wrote:
you misread that. because if its imprecise definition, there are
On 5/11/2011 11:36 AM, Simone Saviolo wrote:
No, wait. I put landuse up to the border of the property, let's say up
to the fence; then there (may be) the sidewalk; then there's the road (I
know that road legally includes the sidewalks too; I'm using it here
with the commonly used meaning). The
Flaimo wrote:
it has been brought up a couple of times in the german forums, so it
seems there is a need for mapping the dimensions of roads (similar to
riverbanks for rivers). the tag itself was suggested by another user,
but i thought it would be a good idea to put it into a dedicated
On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 1:04 PM, Tobias Knerr o...@tobias-knerr.de wrote:
In the example image, lanes (in this case: sidewalks) of the road that
are mapped as separate ways also have their own areas. Currently, I tend
to instead support one area for the entire road, containing the central
Josh Doe wrote:
So unless I'm mistaken, separate
areas for the individual lanes wouldn't provide more information;
they'd just add more clutter.
I think this depends on whether you adopt the sidewalk as a separate
way method or the sidewalk=left/right/both/no method. In my area of
2011/5/11 Tobias Knerr o...@tobias-knerr.de:
Flaimo wrote:
In the example image, lanes (in this case: sidewalks) of the road that
are mapped as separate ways also have their own areas. Currently, I tend
to instead support one area for the entire road, containing the central
highway ways and
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M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote:
If you follow the convention that each way should be drawn along the
center of the real-world feature, then the width of e.g. a sidewalk can
still be determined at any point along the road from just the single
outline area and the way position.
no, if this would
Am 11.05.2011 um 23:01 schrieb Tobias Knerr:
M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote:
If you follow the convention that each way should be drawn along the
center of the real-world feature, then the width of e.g. a sidewalk can
still be determined at any point along the road from just the single
outline
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