Re: [Tagging] access=avoid

2011-06-14 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2011/6/14 Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/83524747/history No comment. you are actually missusing the access-tag because it is intended for legal restrictions and not for recommendations. Why not use another tag? Their number is not limited...

Re: [Tagging] access=avoid

2011-06-14 Thread Sander Deryckere
It's Paul Johnson who introduced the tag, not Nathan. Your comment is right, but you should point it to Paul Johnson instead. regards, Sander you are actually missusing the access-tag because it is intended for legal restrictions and not for recommendations. Why not use another tag? Their

Re: [Tagging] access=avoid

2011-06-14 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2011/6/14 Sander Deryckere sander...@gmail.com: It's Paul Johnson who introduced the tag, not Nathan. Your comment is right, but you should point it to Paul Johnson instead. yes, I saw this, he kept it, so they're sitting in the same boat ;-) Cheers, Martin

Re: [Tagging] access=avoid

2011-06-14 Thread Nathan Edgars II
On 6/14/2011 5:57 AM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2011/6/14 Sander Deryckeresander...@gmail.com: It's Paul Johnson who introduced the tag, not Nathan. Your comment is right, but you should point it to Paul Johnson instead. yes, I saw this, he kept it, so they're sitting in the same boat ;-)

Re: [Tagging] access=avoid

2011-06-14 Thread Richard Mann
That'll be a very big boat On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 10:57 AM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: 2011/6/14 Sander Deryckere sander...@gmail.com: It's Paul Johnson who introduced the tag, not Nathan. Your comment is right, but you should point it to Paul Johnson instead. yes,

Re: [Tagging] access=avoid

2011-06-14 Thread Flaimo
the wiki page doesn't say that the restriction need to be of a legal kind. access=no could also mean that it is physically not accessible even though it might be allowed legally. on the other hand, i don't see avoid as a value, but rather as some sort of additional information like description.

Re: [Tagging] access=avoid

2011-06-14 Thread Nathan Edgars II
On 6/14/2011 6:19 AM, Flaimo wrote: the wiki page doesn't say that the restriction need to be of a legal kind. access=no could also mean that it is physically not accessible even though it might be allowed legally. Are there any common values that are neither legal nor physical? on the other

Re: [Tagging] access=avoid

2011-06-14 Thread SomeoneElse
On 14/06/2011 11:19, Flaimo wrote: the wiki page doesn't say that the restriction need to be of a legal kind. The wiki page makes it abundantly clear that this is what access is for. It uses words such as /legally-enshrined right of access and //dedicated to a specific mode of travel by

Re: [Tagging] access=avoid

2011-06-14 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2011/6/14 Flaimo fla...@gmail.com: the wiki page doesn't say that the restriction need to be of a legal kind. How else can you interpret: Description For describing the legal accessibility of an element. ? access=no could also mean that it is physically not accessible even though it might

Re: [Tagging] access=avoid

2011-06-14 Thread Peter Svensson
This tag might be useful for subjective tagging for bikes: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Class:bicycle The idea is good, but how do we tag the same kind of information for other vehicles? Is there a class:motor_vehicle or class:vehicle? Peter -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från:

Re: [Tagging] access=avoid

2011-06-14 Thread Sander Deryckere
The tag (class:xxx=?) isn't helpful for standard transportation, but for recreative transportation. mot So class:vehicle would be of no use, but e.g. class:touring would be (e.g. for oldtimer touring, moto turiong ...) or class:4wd. A 4wd car falls under the same type in the access tags as the