[talk-ph] pepeng is even stronger

2009-10-02 Thread maning sambale
Just to remind you guys of the expected SuperTyphoon Pepeng. Hope all will be well after this. http://www.pagasa.dost.gov.ph/wb/wbfcst.html -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki:

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] distribution

2009-10-02 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 2:22 PM, Greg Holloway peanutzkingpeng...@hotmail.com wrote: I hope i have picked the right list to ask these questions, please alow me to explain myself; I am a 4x4 off-roader and i have a laptop on the dash of my vehicle running memory map. I have been searching the

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] distribution

2009-10-02 Thread Jukka Rahkonen
Greg Holloway peanutzkingpeng...@... writes: Hello,I hope i have picked the right list to ask these questions, please alow me to explain myself;I am a 4x4 off-roader and i have a laptop on the dash of my vehicle running memory map. I have been searching the internet for cheap detailed maps.

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] distribution

2009-10-02 Thread Greg Holloway
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 10:19:01 + From: ava...@gmail.com To: legal-talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-legal-talk] distribution On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 2:22 PM, Greg Holloway peanutzkingpeng...@hotmail.com wrote: I hope i have picked the right list to ask these questions, please

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] distribution

2009-10-02 Thread Greg Holloway
To: legal-talk@openstreetmap.org From: jukka.rahko...@mmmtike.fi Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 13:28:34 + Subject: Re: [OSM-legal-talk] distribution Greg Holloway peanutzkingpeng...@... writes: Hello,I hope i have picked the right list to ask these questions, please alow me to

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] distribution

2009-10-02 Thread Matt Amos
On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 2:33 PM, Greg Holloway peanutzkingpeng...@hotmail.com wrote: Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 10:19:01 + From: ava...@gmail.com To: legal-talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-legal-talk] distribution On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 2:22 PM, Greg Holloway

[OSM-legal-talk] ODbL virality questions

2009-10-02 Thread Matt Amos
hi legals, i've come across a couple of interesting questions / use-cases for the ODbL and wider discussion. it basically reduces to whether we want the ODbL to have viral (GPL-like) behaviour, or whether it should be less viral (LGPL-like). we've discussed this at an LWG meeting and the general

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] New license status

2009-10-02 Thread James Livingston
On 26/09/2009, at 3:02 AM, Mike Collinson wrote: - A very much re-worked Contributor Terms is now virtually complete and you can see a snapshot at http://docs.google.com/View?id=dd9g3qjp_1kqzg8dhr . Something I just thought of that would probably be worth talking about - how does the

Re: [OSM-talk] address interpolation

2009-10-02 Thread Jochen Topf
On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 10:24:06AM +0100, David Earl wrote: And I think the previous point about other alphabets is a red herring too: basically no letter can precede all other letters in whatever alphabet. If there's ambiguity in the alphabet due to the glyph The problem is as follows:

Re: [OSM-talk] Polish Potlatch doesn't work anymore.

2009-10-02 Thread Jacek Konieczny
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 10:58:12AM +0200, stl...@poczta.fm wrote: It apparently stopped working because Polish translation[1] contains double quotes which make their way to html unescaped which produces a JS string like this: Blah blah foo bar blah in which foo bar becomes JS *code*.

Re: [OSM-talk] Overlay showing wikipedia links

2009-10-02 Thread Pieren
On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 2:40 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: and you can have very big features (e.g. an extreme: atlantic ocean), or strangely shaped ones, where coordinates won't do the job (unless you give much more than just 1 pair), because the center would be off the

Re: [OSM-talk] Using osm2pgsql can I import into postgres i n a projection other than Spherical Mercator (epsg :900913) like wgs84 (epsg:4326)

2009-10-02 Thread Jukka Rahkonen
John Mitchell mitchelljj98 at gmail.com writes: Thanks,For the below information it noted that: This will import the data from the OSM file(s) into a PostgreSQL database suitable for use by the Mapnik rendererI am assuming that this command will also work correctly if my renderer is

Re: [OSM-talk] address interpolation

2009-10-02 Thread Peter Körner
The problem is as follows: You see an interpolation 25a to 25c. How do you know that this means 25a, 25b, 25c? You know by removing the number and then starting with the a go through code points adding one until you reach c. Easy. This will work for all alphabets where that are layed out in

Re: [OSM-talk] Please

2009-10-02 Thread Andy Allan
On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 6:46 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/10/2 Andy Allan gravityst...@gmail.com: Then the people who are mailing more than their fair share of posts will be asked to post less often. Hopefully they will realise that every time they post to the list it's

[OSM-talk] SteveC should decide

2009-10-02 Thread Markus Lindholm
Isn't it time that the governing board establishes a tagging council of some sort (SteveC can't possibly have time to take all decisions), with the mandate to maintain an official set of keys and values (for applicable keys). Wouldn't also be a good idea to establish a convention that keys that

Re: [OSM-talk] SteveC should decide

2009-10-02 Thread Andy Allan
On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 10:07 AM, Markus Lindholm markus.lindh...@gmail.com wrote: Isn't it time that the governing board establishes a tagging council of some sort (SteveC can't possibly have time to take all decisions), with the mandate to maintain an official set of keys and values (for

Re: [OSM-talk] SteveC should decide

2009-10-02 Thread Nigel Magnay
Matt Amos wrote: i absolutely agree. i'd also defend frederik's right to say this is the Frederik Ramm approved tagging scheme without catching grief, or andy to say it's the One True Gravitystorm way, etc... etc... Now we're getting somewhere. This goes back to an idea floated a while ago

Re: [OSM-talk] Please

2009-10-02 Thread John Smith
2009/10/2 Andy Allan gravityst...@gmail.com: Entirely depends on how useful your messages are, it's not a fixed limit. You'll know when you've gone well over when you are repeatedly called out on the mailing list, blog posts, parody pictures, twitter, IRC and direct emails all on the subject

Re: [OSM-talk] SteveC should decide

2009-10-02 Thread John Smith
2009/10/2 Andy Allan gravityst...@gmail.com: I think you're on the wrong mailing list - this is the openstreetmap mailing list and that's not how we will ever do things. I thought this was anything goes, why are you dictating something can't be done?

Re: [OSM-talk] address interpolation

2009-10-02 Thread David Earl
The problem is as follows: You see an interpolation 25a to 25c. How do you know that this means 25a, 25b, 25c? You know by removing the number and then starting with the a go through code points adding one until you reach c. Easy. This will work for all alphabets where that are layed out in

Re: [OSM-talk] Mobile countryside surveying tool

2009-10-02 Thread Nick Whitelegg
The downside of J2ME (at least in the UK, where it rains a lot) is that the phones that it runs on tend not to be waterproof. There are various cases available, but they're not cheap. Maybe a complementary approach would be to have something that could work with GPX file from a handheld GPS

Re: [OSM-talk] Mobile countryside surveying tool

2009-10-02 Thread John Smith
2009/10/2 Nick Whitelegg nick.whitel...@solent.ac.uk: In this case though you'd have to use hand written notes, or memory, anyway, which removes the need for the application really. Erm wouldn't notes get soggy and become less than useful also? It doesn't rain that often anyhow, not in my

Re: [OSM-talk] address interpolation

2009-10-02 Thread Jochen Topf
On Fri, Oct 02, 2009 at 10:26:11AM +0200, Peter Körner wrote: The problem is as follows: You see an interpolation 25a to 25c. How do you know that this means 25a, 25b, 25c? You know by removing the number and then starting with the a go through code points adding one until you reach c. Easy.

Re: [OSM-talk] Overlay showing wikipedia links

2009-10-02 Thread Ed Avis
andrzej zaborowski balrogg at gmail.com writes: http://www.openstreetmap.pl/wp * The first picture from every wikipedia page is displayed. As you will notice, this is not always such a good idea. Often the first picture is itself a map, and sometimes from OSM! It would be better to show the

[OSM-talk] Loading more than 10,000 GPS points in Potlatch...

2009-10-02 Thread Richard Fairhurst
...works now. It used not to. Silly mistake on my part. If you click the little GPS icon, it comes up with the first 10,000 points as per usual; click it again (without having panned/zoomed in the meantime), and it'll come up with the next 10,000; and so on. The count is reset when you pan

[OSM-talk] Fix broken import via script - discussion

2009-10-02 Thread Ruben Wisniewski
The user alex-map[1] did an import of data (without any comment in changeset or tags). I asked him were the data came from, end else if he would mind fixing them. The data has the following issues: A four side building got currently 5 points with two on the same location and the way is

Re: [OSM-talk] address interpolation

2009-10-02 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/10/2 Jochen Topf joc...@remote.org: No. The interpolation way has less nodes in it than houses. Thats the whole point of having an interpolation way. Otherwise you'd just use those nodes and tag them with the right house numbers and you are done. +1. Why not simply use explicit

Re: [OSM-talk] address interpolation

2009-10-02 Thread David Earl
On 02/10/2009 12:42, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2009/10/2 Jochen Topf joc...@remote.org: No. The interpolation way has less nodes in it than houses. Thats the whole point of having an interpolation way. Otherwise you'd just use those nodes and tag them with the right house numbers and you are

Re: [OSM-talk] Fix broken import via script - discussion

2009-10-02 Thread Ruben Wisniewski
His answer was that this is ok for him (if I understood him correctly). ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Overlay showing wikipedia links

2009-10-02 Thread andrzej zaborowski
2009/10/2 Ed Avis e...@waniasset.com: andrzej zaborowski balrogg at gmail.com writes: http://www.openstreetmap.pl/wp * The first picture from every wikipedia page is displayed.  As you will notice, this is not always such a good idea. Often the first picture is itself a map, and sometimes

Re: [OSM-talk] Overlay showing wikipedia links

2009-10-02 Thread Ed Avis
andrzej zaborowski balrogg at gmail.com writes: http://www.openstreetmap.pl/wp * The first picture from every wikipedia page is displayed. It would be better to show the first non-map picture.  That would either require Wikipedia to tag their images somehow, or require the script to guess which

Re: [OSM-talk] Overlay showing wikipedia links

2009-10-02 Thread Dan Karran
2009/10/2 Pieren pier...@gmail.com: On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 2:40 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: and you can have very big features (e.g. an extreme: atlantic ocean), or strangely shaped ones, where coordinates won't do the job (unless you give much more than just 1

Re: [OSM-talk] Overlay showing wikipedia links

2009-10-02 Thread Dan Karran
2009/9/30 andrzej zaborowski balr...@gmail.com: seeing that features that get visualised in some form somewhere (e.g. on a slippymap on the web) get mapped more often than other features, I've set up an overlay that shows the External Links (proposal at [1]), most importantly links to

[OSM-talk] Multithread generate_tiles.py, generate_images.py and question about attribution.

2009-10-02 Thread Radek Bartoň
Hello everyone. First of all, I want to share with my two scripts for Mapnik rendering. First is a modified version of generate_tiles.py to use multithread rendering. Second is a modified generate_image.py to generate large bitmap posters like [1,2]. It uses tiled rendering so it's possible to

Re: [OSM-talk] Please

2009-10-02 Thread Dave F.
Andy Allan wrote: On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 2:38 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: There is one small problem with this suggestion, if most new users are invited to join this and other lists and the number of users are increasing at an exponential rate the number of messages

Re: [OSM-talk] Please

2009-10-02 Thread Dave F.
Andy Allan wrote: On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 6:46 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/10/2 Andy Allan gravityst...@gmail.com: Then the people who are mailing more than their fair share of posts will be asked to post less often. Hopefully they will realise that every

Re: [OSM-talk] SteveC should decide

2009-10-02 Thread wynndale
Different people can then experiment with different approaches to produce consistent datasets tailored to their own needs. They don't need to be proprietary - in fact, given the number of people around here talking about it I'd have hoped someone would have stepped up and produced a tailored

Re: [OSM-talk] Please

2009-10-02 Thread Liz
On Sat, 3 Oct 2009, Dave F. wrote: and/or that you are posting too often. It's a social thing, not a logical rule, and unfortunately some people just don't get it. I find it ironic that I keep on being told it's OPENstreetmap, where anything goes with the use of free form tags etc

Re: [OSM-talk] SteveC should decide

2009-10-02 Thread Gervase Markham
On 01/10/09 04:14, Russ Nelson wrote: I'm tired of this silly true/false 1/0 yes/no up/down left/right in/out fore/aft port/starboard debate/debacle. It's trivial, it's stupid, we could just as easily toss a coin as engage in any rational debate about how binary values should be expressed.

Re: [OSM-talk] SteveC should decide

2009-10-02 Thread Gervase Markham
On 01/10/09 04:26, John Smith wrote: I still like Shaun's idea of a committee We really, really need a committee to decide what values we are going to standardize for binary true and false? If that's true, we are doomed. How on earth are we going to make any difficult decisions stick? Gerv

Re: [OSM-talk] SteveC should decide

2009-10-02 Thread Gervase Markham
On 01/10/09 10:40, Frederik Ramm wrote: If we have open issues in the community that we cannot find a good solution to, then the reason for this is not that we simply lack a good Führer who tells us what is right and what is wrong; Frederik, I may be entering dangerous waters here, but I'm

[OSM-talk] shop=groceries?

2009-10-02 Thread MP
I notices few days ago user farlokko changed many shop=groceries into shop=greengrocer worldwide. The changeset is http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/2562959 I think this change is wrong, at least for most nodes in czech republic - I know about nodes that I've added and only small

Re: [OSM-talk] SteveC should decide

2009-10-02 Thread Gervase Markham
On 02/10/09 10:10, Andy Allan wrote: The alternative to forcing arbitrary rules of consistency on our volunteers is to acknowledge that OSM is in fact inconsistently tagged, and chill out about the whole thing. Different people can then experiment with different approaches to produce

Re: [OSM-talk] shop=groceries?

2009-10-02 Thread Chris Hill
MP wrote: I notices few days ago user farlokko changed many shop=groceries into shop=greengrocer worldwide. The changeset is http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/2562959 I think this change is wrong, at least for most nodes in czech republic - I know about nodes that I've added and

Re: [OSM-talk] shop=groceries?

2009-10-02 Thread Thomas Wood
2009/10/2 MP singular...@gmail.com: I notices few days ago user farlokko changed many shop=groceries into shop=greengrocer worldwide. The changeset is http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/2562959 This has been noted on IRC, I think some reverted changes in their area, but nobody got

Re: [OSM-talk] SteveC should decide

2009-10-02 Thread Ulf Lamping
Gervase Markham schrieb: On 01/10/09 04:26, John Smith wrote: I still like Shaun's idea of a committee We really, really need a committee to decide what values we are going to standardize for binary true and false? If that's true, we are doomed. How on earth are we going to make any

Re: [OSM-talk] shop=groceries?

2009-10-02 Thread Someoneelse
Chris Hill wrote: It looks as though farlokko has reverted some (maybe all) back to shop=groceries. Not all (at least not yet): http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/160590737/history ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] shop=groceries?

2009-10-02 Thread MP
It looks as though farlokko has reverted some (maybe all) back to shop=groceries. Some, but not all. I reverted all greengrocers from that changeset back to groceries in Czech republic, in all cases where the shop name does not suggest it is actually a greengrocer (names like Ovoce - zelenina,

Re: [OSM-talk] SteveC should decide

2009-10-02 Thread DavidD
2009/10/2 Gervase Markham gerv-gm...@gerv.net: If I were considering using OSM data in my business, I would consider it laughable that after 5 years there had not yet been a decision on what value or small set of values I needed to look for on boolean attributes to see whether they were true

Re: [OSM-talk] SteveC should decide

2009-10-02 Thread Frederik Ramm
Gerv, Gervase Markham wrote: I may be entering dangerous waters here, but I'm wondering if this comment of yours reveals quite a lot. Before I discuss the contents of your message, a quick word about style: It may be your way to try and understand a conversation by looking not at what has

Re: [OSM-talk] SteveC should decide

2009-10-02 Thread Roy Wallace
On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 9:08 AM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: I really do encourage you and all those calling for leadership to get together, form your own advisory board or tagging committee or whatever, create the structures you think are required, and then offer them for

Re: [OSM-talk] SteveC should decide

2009-10-02 Thread Russ Nelson
Jukka Rahkonen writes: You seem to believe that SteveC would make such a decision that makes you happy. How about if he says that if you want people to continue working with OSM in creative, productive, or unexpected ways then true/false, yes/no, and 0/1 issue must be tolerated. That's

Re: [OSM-talk] SteveC should decide

2009-10-02 Thread James Livingston
On 03/10/2009, at 7:02 AM, Gervase Markham wrote: More examples from the Mozilla project: if one vocal group want something one way, and another vocal group want something the other way in Firefox, the _worst_ thing you can do is make it a preference so that both sides can have what they

Re: [OSM-talk] SteveC should decide

2009-10-02 Thread edodd
Frederik said All this is possible *within* the existing OSM framework and without any strong leader telling us where to go. I really do encourage you and all those calling for leadership to get together, form your own advisory board or tagging committee or whatever, create the structures you

Re: [OSM-talk] SteveC should decide

2009-10-02 Thread Russ Nelson
Gervase Markham writes: Good leadership is not the same as makes decisions Frederik agrees with. Good leadership is not the same as only making decisions which are easy because everyone agrees. Good leadership is leadership which furthers the mission of the organization. +1 -- --my

Re: [OSM-talk] SteveC should decide

2009-10-02 Thread Dave F.
Russ Nelson wrote: Dave F. writes: This is just wrong. If SteveC says that mountain=green means that first there is a mountain, and that mountain=blue means there is no mountain, then damnit, we should do it that way. Sheesh, has Donovan lost all his currency? Oh my Lord,

Re: [OSM-talk] SteveC should decide

2009-10-02 Thread Roy Wallace
On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 10:57 AM, ed...@billiau.net wrote: Frederik said All this is possible *within* the existing OSM framework and without any strong leader telling us where to go. I really do encourage you and all those calling for leadership to get together, form your own advisory board

Re: [OSM-talk] SteveC should decide

2009-10-02 Thread Frederik Ramm
Liz, ed...@billiau.net wrote: This is likely to result in several insular communities. In particular I am considering that au mappers would write a tight set of guidelines for mapping and, as an example, we wouldn't have to worry about residential vs unclassified in rural areas for any other

Re: [OSM-talk] SteveC should decide

2009-10-02 Thread Dave F.
Frederik Ramm wrote: On the face of it, this true/false thing is really not a big deal and we would be truly stupid to waste so much time discussing it. Frederik, why can't you understand? The problem is /not /about the differences between True/False, but the *similarities* between

Re: [OSM-talk] SteveC should decide

2009-10-02 Thread Russ Nelson
Roy Wallace writes: I think we are quite capable of (voluntarily) collaboration across country borders without needing an authority figure to enforce it. Good! Collaborate on this and remove 8 of 9 proposals: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Noname I'm not holding my

Re: [OSM-talk] SteveC should decide

2009-10-02 Thread Matt Amos
On 10/3/09, Russ Nelson nel...@crynwr.com wrote: Jukka Rahkonen writes: You seem to believe that SteveC would make such a decision that makes you happy. How about if he says that if you want people to continue working with OSM in creative, productive, or unexpected ways then

Re: [OSM-talk] SteveC should decide

2009-10-02 Thread Dave F.
Russ Nelson wrote: There's a set of people who feel that mappers shouldn't be given guidance, because if they accidentally don't follow it, they'll feel bad and might stop mapping. But there's also a set of mappers who are editing because they want to create the best map possible. Russ,

Re: [OSM-talk] SteveC should decide

2009-10-02 Thread James Livingston
On 02/10/2009, at 7:12 PM, Nigel Magnay wrote: That's fine, so long as the tags themselves are namespaced. Otherwise, just as now, the semantics get confused. I.E, It should be the case that if I tag as FredericRamm:interesting=true Going this route is really just reinventing XML, without

Re: [OSM-talk] SteveC should decide

2009-10-02 Thread Jeremy Adams
On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 9:36 PM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: Liz, ed...@billiau.net wrote: This is likely to result in several insular communities. In particular I am considering that au mappers would write a tight set of guidelines for mapping and, as an example, we wouldn't

Re: [OSM-talk] SteveC should decide

2009-10-02 Thread Andrew Errington
On Sat, October 3, 2009 10:56, Russ Nelson wrote: Roy Wallace writes: I think we are quite capable of (voluntarily) collaboration across country borders without needing an authority figure to enforce it. Good! Collaborate on this and remove 8 of 9 proposals:

Re: [OSM-talk] SteveC should decide

2009-10-02 Thread James Livingston
On 03/10/2009, at 12:53 PM, Jeremy Adams wrote: If different regions want to use the map for different purposes, display different tags, etc then they can apply their localization when they create their map. It's not so much that there are different uses, but a lot of the assumptions

Re: [OSM-talk] SteveC should decide

2009-10-02 Thread Russ Nelson
Matt Amos writes: forcing all mappers, editors and renderers to support it? Why do people keep saying that I want to use force? From where do they get this idea? Have I ever suggested the use of force? Gun, knife, sword, empty hand? Rejection of ill-formed tags at the API? Please, quote me

Re: [OSM-talk] SteveC should decide

2009-10-02 Thread James Livingston
On 03/10/2009, at 1:16 PM, Andrew Errington wrote: If I am a map maker then I know whether or not the street has a name, because I've been there and seen it. I can look at the map and see that this street has no name, but I know that it does. So I will edit the data to make it right.

Re: [OSM-talk] SteveC should decide

2009-10-02 Thread James Livingston
On 03/10/2009, at 1:24 PM, Russ Nelson wrote: I suggest instead that in cases such as these, SteveC should bless one of them with his Holy Water of Antioch (and the number of the tags shall be 3, no more and no less). His blessing will tip the stable disconvergance in one direction. For

Re: [OSM-talk] SteveC should decide

2009-10-02 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Sat, 3 Oct 2009, Jeremy Adams wrote: On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 9:36 PM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: Liz, ed...@billiau.net wrote: This is likely to result in several insular communities. In particular I am considering that au mappers would write a tight set of guidelines

Re: [OSM-talk] SteveC should decide

2009-10-02 Thread John Smith
2009/10/3 Gervase Markham gerv-gm...@gerv.net: On 01/10/09 04:26, John Smith wrote: I still like Shaun's idea of a committee We really, really need a committee to decide what values we are going to standardize for binary true and false? No we need a committee to decide upon a core set of

Re: [OSM-talk] SteveC should decide

2009-10-02 Thread John Smith
2009/10/3 Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com: I think we are quite capable of (voluntarily) collaboration across country borders without needing an authority figure to enforce it. You do if you want a consistent data set. Frederik's point is valid - if you want a tagging committee/working

Re: [OSM-talk] SteveC should decide

2009-10-02 Thread John Smith
2009/10/3 Elizabeth Dodd ed...@billiau.net: I'm not in favour of a fork - I'm in favour of a consistent schema. There are significant regional differences and no means yet to deal with those within the multiple flavours of English spoken throughout the world. Spanish speakers will have similar

Re: [OSM-talk] SteveC should decide

2009-10-02 Thread John Smith
2009/10/3 Jeremy Adams mile...@king-nerd.com: I'm just a regular old mapper, but it's my humble opinion that the data in the database must be consistent across the whole database.  If different regions want to use the map for different purposes, display different tags, etc then they can apply

[OSM-talk] 2009 TIGER Shapefiles now available

2009-10-02 Thread Kevin
Released October 1, 2009 http://www.census.gov/geo/www/tiger/tgrshp2009/tgrshp2009.html ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] SteveC should decide

2009-10-02 Thread Apollinaris Schoell
On 2 Oct 2009, at 21:06 , John Smith wrote: You do if you want a consistent data set. And what if I don't want? There are 1000s of mappers and not everyone thinks like you and agrees with you. If you can't accept so much freedom it's your problem not mine or theirs. there are many things I

Re: [OSM-talk] SteveC should decide

2009-10-02 Thread John Smith
2009/10/3 Apollinaris Schoell ascho...@gmail.com: On 2 Oct 2009, at 21:06 , John Smith wrote: You do if you want a consistent data set. And what if I don't want? There are 1000s of mappers and not everyone thinks like you and agrees with you. If you can't accept so much freedom it's your

Re: [OSM-talk] SteveC should decide

2009-10-02 Thread Liz
On Sat, 3 Oct 2009, Apollinaris Schoell wrote: On 2 Oct 2009, at 21:06 , John Smith wrote: You do if you want a consistent data set. And what if I don't want? There are 1000s of mappers and not everyone thinks like you and agrees with you. If you can't accept so much freedom it's your

Re: [OSM-talk] SteveC should decide

2009-10-02 Thread John Smith
2009/10/3 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com: 2009/10/3 Apollinaris Schoell ascho...@gmail.com: On 2 Oct 2009, at 21:06 , John Smith wrote: You do if you want a consistent data set. And what if I don't want? There are 1000s of mappers and not everyone thinks like you and agrees with

[OSM-talk-nl] wandeling op terschelling en taggingsprobleempjes

2009-10-02 Thread Rik de Landloper
Hallo, Ik was twee jaar geleden ook al ingeschreven op deze lijst, maar zag dat ik er vanaf gehaald waarschijnlijk vanwege non-activiteit. Ik ben zo vrij geweest mijzelf weer in te schrijven en neem mij voor dit keer wel aktief te gaan worden. Ik heb de afgelopen weken een klein

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] wandeling op terschelling en taggingsprobleempjes

2009-10-02 Thread Andre Engels
2009/10/2 Rik de Landloper r...@the-quickest.com: Ik was twee jaar geleden ook al ingeschreven op deze lijst, maar zag dat ik er vanaf gehaald waarschijnlijk vanwege non-activiteit. Ik ben zo vrij geweest mijzelf weer in te schrijven en neem mij voor dit keer wel aktief te gaan worden. Ik

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] wandeling op terschelling en taggingsprobleempjes

2009-10-02 Thread Roeland Douma
Hallo en welkom terug! Het lijkt me raar dat je zomaar van de lijst gehaald bent in principe mag je idelen wat je wil ;) Maar je voornemen om actief deel te nemen is sowieso goed! Super dat je alle avontuurlijke paden er ook in gaat zetten! Kan erg interessant zijn. Mocht je ook wandelroutes

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] wandeling op terschelling en taggingsprobleempjes

2009-10-02 Thread Floris Looijesteijn
een paar van je problemen kun je oplossen/verbeteren met tracktype: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:tracktype voor die doorwaadbare plek zou je misschien een tracktype=grade5 er op kunnen zetten. of misschien een bridge=no ??? is het kreekje ook getagged? groet, floris Rik de Landloper

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] wandeling op terschelling en taggingsprobleempjes

2009-10-02 Thread Rik de Landloper
Hallo, Bedankt voor jullie reakties. Ik stel voor dat ik eerst de komende weken/maanden mijn actief worden waar ga maken voordat er een blog voor me op openstreetmap wordt gemaakt, die vervolgens leeg blijft. Maar het idee spreekt me zeker aan. Groet, Rik On Fri, 02 Oct 2009 15:38 +0200,

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] wandeling op terschelling en taggingsprobleempjes

2009-10-02 Thread Roeland Douma
Super, Je hebt mail ;) Groet, --Roeland On Friday 02 October 2009 16:04:21 Rik de Landloper wrote: Hallo, Bedankt voor jullie reakties. Ik stel voor dat ik eerst de komende weken/maanden mijn actief worden waar ga maken voordat er een blog voor me op openstreetmap wordt gemaakt, die

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] wandeling op terschelling en taggingsprobleempjes

2009-10-02 Thread Theun
een paar van je problemen kun je oplossen/verbeteren met tracktype: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:tracktype voor die doorwaadbare plek zou je misschien een tracktype=grade5 er op kunnen zetten. of misschien een bridge=no ??? is het kreekje ook getagged? highway=ford tag op

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] OSM op T-Dose

2009-10-02 Thread Rob
Op 28 september 2009 12:53 heeft Henk Hoff h...@toffehoff.nl het volgende geschreven: Aankomend weekend vindt de jaarlijkse T-Dose plaats in Eindhoven. T-DOSE is a free and yearly event held in The Netherlands to promote use and development of Open Source Software. Er is een presentatie van

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] OSM op T-Dose

2009-10-02 Thread Peter Leemans
Rob wrote: Op 28 september 2009 12:53 heeft Henk Hoff h...@toffehoff.nl het volgende geschreven: Aankomend weekend vindt de jaarlijkse T-Dose plaats in Eindhoven. T-DOSE is a free and yearly event held in The Netherlands to promote use and development of Open Source Software. Er is een

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] OSM op T-Dose

2009-10-02 Thread Stefan de Konink
We zijn morgen ook bij de HCC dag in Apeldoorn. Trouwens, leuk feestje bij Kennisland hier ;) Stefan Op 2 okt 2009 om 20:41 heeft Peter Leemans pe...@bist2.be het volgende geschreven:\ Rob wrote: Op 28 september 2009 12:53 heeft Henk Hoff h...@toffehoff.nl het volgende geschreven:

[talk-au] Apple buys google maps competitor...

2009-10-02 Thread John Smith
Apple has quietly bought up a mapping company that competes with google. http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/09/10/01/apple_purchased_google_maps_competitor_placebase_report.html ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org

Re: [talk-au] New CC-BY datasets due Monday 28 September on Government 2.0 Taskforce website

2009-10-02 Thread James Livingston
On 30/09/2009, at 10:25 PM, Emilie Laffray wrote: I really like to see the vegetation cover and the forest!! What are they? Shapefiles? If they are shapefiles, they come with their own projection files and therefore can be easily converted into another coordinate using ST_Transform inside

Re: [talk-au] New CC-BY datasets due Monday 28 September on Government 2.0 Taskforce website

2009-10-02 Thread John Smith
2009/10/2 James Livingston doc...@mac.com: areas[1]. Does it look okay to people? If so, I'll go ahead and do the rest of the WHA data. With the current tags you've used it probably won't render, since it's a national park you're going to get into the whole is it natural=wood, or landuse=forest

Re: [talk-au] New CC-BY datasets due Monday 28 September on Government 2.0 Taskforce website

2009-10-02 Thread James Livingston
On 02/10/2009, at 8:42 PM, John Smith wrote: 2009/10/2 James Livingston doc...@mac.com: With the current tags you've used it probably won't render, since it's a national park you're going to get into the whole is it natural=wood, or landuse=forest type debate, I think both get rendered as a

Re: [talk-au] New CC-BY datasets due Monday 28 September on Government 2.0 Taskforce website

2009-10-02 Thread Emilie Laffray
2009/10/2 James Livingston doc...@mac.com On 30/09/2009, at 10:25 PM, Emilie Laffray wrote: I really like to see the vegetation cover and the forest!! What are they? Shapefiles? If they are shapefiles, they come with their own projection files and therefore can be easily converted into

Re: [talk-au] New CC-BY datasets due Monday 28 September on Government 2.0 Taskforce website

2009-10-02 Thread John Smith
2009/10/2 Emilie Laffray emilie.laff...@gmail.com: Regarding tags, when we worked on the Corine import in France, we set up a page on the wiki where people were making their suggestions. We then had a small debate on what was better and then we voted. When it was too tight on terms of vote, it

Re: [talk-au] New CC-BY datasets due Monday 28 September on Government 2.0 Taskforce website

2009-10-02 Thread James Livingston
On 02/10/2009, at 8:50 PM, Emilie Laffray wrote: Regarding tags, when we worked on the Corine import in France, we set up a page on the wiki where people were making their suggestions. We then had a small debate on what was better and then we voted. Indeed, hence my I've uploaded a

Re: [talk-au] BTC mapper (Live POI uploader) launch event

2009-10-02 Thread John Smith
The previous video was accidentally deleted, here's a new link to the video that should work once it's finished processing the upload: http://vimeo.com/6860509 ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org

[talk-au] Bird watching spots

2009-10-02 Thread edodd
This weekend I think I'll be checking out some local bird watching spots http://rankinssprings.googlepages.com/home so does anyone have any ideas on tagging bird watching spots and hides? ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org

Re: [talk-au] Magpie nesting and swooping areas

2009-10-02 Thread Roy Wallace
On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 8:33 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: It shouldn't be too hard to hack up a quick db that can do a layer over the top, I think people were suggesting to put this info directly into OSM but that may over kill a simpler DB can do the same thing in the same

Re: [talk-au] New CC-BY datasets due Monday 28 September on Government 2.0 Taskforce website

2009-10-02 Thread James Livingston
On 02/10/2009, at 9:01 PM, John Smith wrote: Might have to be a multipolygon, I just can't get it to render at all if I tell mapnik the tiles are dirty. I've just changed it over to be a multipolygon relation - if that works, I'll go file a bug against the renderer. A forest in the UK

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