[Talk-si] Portal s pešpotmi

2012-05-29 Thread Martin Vuk
Živijo, Geopedia je pripravila zanimiv portal http://www.pespoti.si A kaj ko je vse, kar oni počnejeo, licenčno nekompatibilno z openstreetmap :-( LP Martin ___ Talk-si mailing list Talk-si@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-si] Portal s pešpotmi

2012-05-29 Thread Blaž Lorger
On Tuesday 29 May 2012 16:19:20 Damjan Gerl wrote: Martin Vuk, on 29/05/2012 15.36, wrote: Živijo, Geopedia je pripravila zanimiv portal http://www.pespoti.si A kaj ko je vse, kar oni počnejeo, licenčno nekompatibilno z openstreetmap :-( LP Martin Ja, nekaj podobnega je

[OSM-legal-talk] It's a shame

2012-05-29 Thread Johan C
Legal people know that an investigation is needed before an accusation can lead to a judge or jury proclaiming 'guilty' or 'not guilty'. Unfortunately, some users are very quick to proclaim guilty, even without knowing the local situation or talking to the person being accused. I'm very happy to

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM : It's a shame !!!

2012-05-29 Thread Thomas Davie
It's So Funny has not copied your data here, he has simply modified it (in this case, changing highway=residential to highway=unclassified). When the redaction bot is unleashed, if you have still not accepted the CTs (do you have a particular reason not to?), this data will be deleted. There

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM : It's a shame !!!

2012-05-29 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2012-05-29 08:41, Thomas Davie wrote: It's So Funny has not copied your data here, he has simply modified it (in this case, changing highway=residential to highway=unclassified). When the redaction bot is unleashed, if you have still not accepted the CTs (do you have a particular reason not

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM : It's a shame !!!

2012-05-29 Thread Floris Looijesteijn
I've sent CeesW a message asking him to join the discussion here. Most of his other edits seem legit, but the comment on this changeset is somewhat remarkable: ... data reconciliation ODbl. Let's hope he explains himself. Greets, Floris Looijesteijn On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 9:00 AM, Maarten

[OSM-talk] TomTom is thumping us

2012-05-29 Thread Maarten Deen
Ok, they don't name us, but I think a leading open source map does refer to us. http://www.tomtom.com/en_gb/licensing/newsletter/201205/didyouknow/ Oh wauw. We're not perfect. Let's close up the shop. Thanks to SteveC for all the effort, but it wasn't enough. Well, probably one of the very

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM : It's a shame !!!

2012-05-29 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2012-05-29 09:49, Nathan Edgars II wrote: On 5/29/2012 3:00 AM, Maarten Deen wrote: On 2012-05-29 08:41, Thomas Davie wrote: It's So Funny has not copied your data here, he has simply modified it (in this case, changing highway=residential to highway=unclassified). When the redaction bot

Re: [OSM-talk] TomTom is thumping us

2012-05-29 Thread Nick Whitelegg
Whatever. I've certainly seen footpaths classified as roads in commercial online maps for instance. This is a very one sided argument and assumes that commercial online maps are accurate. It also completely neglects the fact that you can use OSM data without a fee andf without someone telling

Re: [OSM-talk] TomTom is thumping us

2012-05-29 Thread John Sturdy
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 8:44 AM, Maarten Deen md...@xs4all.nl wrote: Ok, they don't name us, but I think a leading open source map does refer to us. http://www.tomtom.com/en_gb/licensing/newsletter/201205/didyouknow/ Oh wauw. We're not perfect. Let's close up the shop. Thanks to SteveC for

Re: [OSM-talk] TomTom is thumping us

2012-05-29 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Nick Whitelegg wrote: Whatever. I've certainly seen footpaths classified as roads in commercial online maps for instance. It's basically a misreading of how OSM data works. Essentially they're saying that the fact we use the highway=track tag means OMG OSM MISCLASSIFIES FOREST TRACKS AS

Re: [OSM-talk] TomTom is thumping us

2012-05-29 Thread Thomas Davie
Certainly Apple mark footpaths as roads in the data that they have used from us, but that's a rendering issue, not a data issue. Tom Davie On 29 May 2012, at 09:14, Nick Whitelegg wrote: Whatever. I've certainly seen footpaths classified as roads in commercial online maps for instance.

Re: [OSM-talk] TomTom is thumping us

2012-05-29 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2012/5/29 John Sturdy jcg.stu...@gmail.com: footpaths as roads --- I don't think I've seen any of those, but I have found quite a few unclassified roads that look more like tracks on Bing (and have adjusted them accordingly where confident of it). +1 to the rest, but I don't think we should

Re: [OSM-talk] TomTom is thumping us

2012-05-29 Thread Thomas Davie
To be honest, if a road has no classification, and is made of mud and gravel, it's a track... If it's an official road in some way, then clearly it is classified ;) Thanks Tom Davie On 29 May 2012, at 09:32, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2012/5/29 John Sturdy jcg.stu...@gmail.com: footpaths

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM : It's a shame !!!

2012-05-29 Thread ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen
Apparently this ownership is more complex then at first sight. A way is defined by its nodes and its tags. Maarten only took a look at the tags. cetest did not only add a residential tag, but created the nodes (Version 1) that defines this particular way with GPS acquired data, later assisted

Re: [OSM-talk] TomTom is thumping us

2012-05-29 Thread John Sturdy
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 9:40 AM, Thomas Davie tom.da...@gmail.com wrote: To be honest, if a road has no classification, and is made of mud and gravel, it's a track... The ones I reclassified typically had two wheel-tracks of soil-colour and grass between them, I think. If it's

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM : It's a shame !!!

2012-05-29 Thread Thomas Davie
If I remember correctly (someone correct me if I don't), a lawyer has agreed that it's okay to keep node positions and ways where a user would reasonably have created the same way from an ODbL compatible data source. So for example, in this case, the user could reasonably create the exact same

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM : It's a shame !!!

2012-05-29 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2012-05-29 10:43, ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen wrote: Apparently this ownership is more complex then at first sight. A way is defined by its nodes and its tags. Maarten only took a look at the tags. cetest did not only add a residential tag, but created the nodes (Version

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM : It's a shame !!!

2012-05-29 Thread ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen
At the time it was judged to be important to keep reference to the original and data. I remember copying lots of old AND tags onto my created roads. I think what should be leading here is the version number, as recorded by the server. Whatever excuse there may be, including reference to

Re: [OSM-talk] TomTom is thumping us

2012-05-29 Thread Dave F.
On 29/05/2012 08:44, Maarten Deen wrote: Ok, they don't name us, but I think a leading open source map does refer to us. http://www.tomtom.com/en_gb/licensing/newsletter/201205/didyouknow/ Sounds like they're scared to me. With them looking over their shoulders at OSM, it means their

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM : It's a shame !!!

2012-05-29 Thread Thomas Davie
On 29 May 2012, at 10:15, ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen wrote: At the time it was judged to be important to keep reference to the original and data. I remember copying lots of old AND tags onto my created roads. I think what should be leading here is the version number, as

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM : It's a shame !!!

2012-05-29 Thread Floris Looijesteijn
That's some great imagery if he can read the name signs on that street... Greets, Floris Looijesteijn On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 11:01 AM, Thomas Davie tom.da...@gmail.com wrote: If I remember correctly (someone correct me if I don't), a lawyer has agreed that it's okay to keep node positions

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM : It's a shame !!!

2012-05-29 Thread Thomas Davie
On 29 May 2012, at 10:27, Floris Looijesteijn wrote: That's some great imagery if he can read the name signs on that street... The fact that all the tags were ODbL safe had already been established – they were created by another user who had accepted. Thanks Tom Davie

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM : It's a shame !!!

2012-05-29 Thread Thomas Davie
On 29 May 2012, at 10:36, ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen wrote: Off list ! No need to annoy the list with comments with suggestion on how to cheat even more. No, I'd rather keep it on list, as I'd really like people to know the quickest and best methods for keeping as much

Re: [OSM-talk] TomTom is thumping us

2012-05-29 Thread Grant Slater
On 29 May 2012 08:44, Maarten Deen md...@xs4all.nl wrote: Ok, they don't name us, but I think a leading open source map does refer to us. http://www.tomtom.com/en_gb/licensing/newsletter/201205/didyouknow/ RichardF has a comprehensive slap down of their FUD:

[OSM-talk] (dis)Honesty and Copyright

2012-05-29 Thread ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen
I am really astonished about the way some users on this list react to a claim to respect (my and CC-by-SA) copyright . The whole business of changeing license IS about copyright. If there is only a single grain of non-respect to copyright in your heads (those that are addressed, do

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM : It's a shame !!!

2012-05-29 Thread andrzej zaborowski
On 29 May 2012 11:28, Thomas Davie tom.da...@gmail.com wrote: On 29 May 2012, at 10:27, Floris Looijesteijn wrote: That's some great imagery if he can read the name signs on that street... The fact that all the tags were ODbL safe had already been established – they were created by another

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM : It's a shame !!!

2012-05-29 Thread ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen
I did not give you permission to share a private conversation on the list. That is also about copyrights, Davie. Gert -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Thomas Davie [mailto:tom.da...@gmail.com] Verzonden: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 11:43 AM Aan: ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen

Re: [OSM-talk] (dis)Honesty and Copyright

2012-05-29 Thread Thomas Davie
On 29 May 2012, at 10:50, ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen wrote: I am really astonished about the way some users on this list react to a claim to respect (my and CC-by-SA) copyright . Do you have an example of such a reply that astonishes you? Thanks Tom

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM : It's a shame !!!

2012-05-29 Thread andrzej zaborowski
On 29 May 2012 11:01, Thomas Davie tom.da...@gmail.com wrote: If I remember correctly (someone correct me if I don't), a lawyer has agreed that it's okay to keep node positions and ways where a user would reasonably have created the same way from an ODbL compatible data source. I don't know

Re: [OSM-talk] (dis)Honesty and Copyright

2012-05-29 Thread Floris Looijesteijn
Gert, Although I would have chosen a different tone of voice you are absolutely right to raise this issue. Let's just try to keep the discussion civilized. Greetings, Floris Looijesteijn On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 11:50 AM, ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen g.grem...@cetest.nl wrote:

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM : It's a shame !!!

2012-05-29 Thread Emilie Laffray
Hello, First of all, let me just say it is indeed impolite to share private conversation but I would love to see that tested in a court. That said, the whole point of people in FOSM waiting for OSM to fail is kind of annoying. I understand why the fork happened (doesn't mean that I agree with

Re: [OSM-talk] (dis)Honesty and Copyright

2012-05-29 Thread Peteris Krisjanis
O , 2012-05-29 11:50 +0200, ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen rakstīja: I am really astonished about the way some users on this list react to a claim to respect (my and CC-by-SA) copyright . Hi Gert! First, keep tone civil and you won't get nasty replies as before :) And

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM : It's a shame !!!

2012-05-29 Thread Robert Scott
On Tuesday 29 May 2012, ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen wrote: I did not give you permission to share a private conversation on the list. That is also about copyrights, Davie. Public interest defence trumps this. Next! robert. ___

Re: [OSM-talk] TomTom is thumping us

2012-05-29 Thread Steve Bennett
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 5:44 PM, Maarten Deen md...@xs4all.nl wrote: Ok, they don't name us, but I think a leading open source map does refer to us. http://www.tomtom.com/en_gb/licensing/newsletter/201205/didyouknow/ I think the most interesting part of this is actually direct criticism from

Re: [OSM-talk] TomTom is thumping us

2012-05-29 Thread kenneth gonsalves
On Tue, 2012-05-29 at 20:37 +1000, Steve Bennett wrote: http://www.tomtom.com/en_gb/licensing/newsletter/201205/didyouknow/ I think the most interesting part of this is actually direct criticism from our commercial competitors. You know the Gandhi thing: First they ignore you, then they

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM : It's a shame !!!

2012-05-29 Thread ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen
Emilie, I defend 2 legal interests: Mine : I invested time work and money, that I co-licensed under CC-by-SA to the previous OSM OSM: by keeping the OSM database clean of tainted data If you call that trolling .. Sometimes I think that people are called trolls because they

[OSM-talk] Moderated Re: OSM : It's a shame !!!

2012-05-29 Thread Mikel Maron
All This thread has gotten way out of line. Please refrain from posting anything more on this thread, or related threads (ie (dis)Honesty and Copyright). I suggest taking a moment and reviewing the Etiquette page on the wiki. Thanks Mikel

Re: [OSM-talk] Edit review: intermittent waters

2012-05-29 Thread Thomas Davie
On 29 May 2012, at 12:51, Worst Fixer wrote: Hello. I ask you to review my planned edit. There are lot of ways to tag intermittent water feature found in database. Most popular is intermittent=yes. All others come from different old imports. Date ist 2009-2010 year. I countiered ~350

Re: [OSM-talk] TomTom is thumping us

2012-05-29 Thread Paul Johnson
On May 29, 2012 1:16 AM, Nick Whitelegg nick.whitel...@solent.ac.uk wrote: This is a very one sided argument and assumes that commercial online maps are accurate. It also completely neglects the fact that you can use OSM data without a fee andf without someone telling you what you can and cannot

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM : It's a shame !!!

2012-05-29 Thread Emilie Laffray
Hello, I will retract the troll bit as you seem actually to be enthusiastic but you seriously have to work on the perception that you give to people in the first place. Goodwill is something difficult enough to accrue in the first place. However, I will not retract the fact that I consider that

[OSM-talk] An indoor airport

2012-05-29 Thread SomeoneElse
The fence around an airport here** (Bishkek in Kyrgyzstan): http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=42.83491lon=74.5764zoom=16layers=M Seems to have been tagged building = yes, building:levels = 2. I'm sure it gets chilly there in the winter, but this seems unlikely. Perhaps someone local to the

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM : It's a shame !!!

2012-05-29 Thread 80n
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 11:18 AM, Emilie Laffray emilie.laff...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, First of all, let me just say it is indeed impolite to share private conversation but I would love to see that tested in a court. That said, the whole point of people in FOSM waiting for OSM to fail is

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM : It's a shame !!!

2012-05-29 Thread Mikel Maron
Hello, Please, do not respond further to this thread. Any further comments will receive individual moderation. -Mikel   * Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron From: Emilie Laffray emilie.laff...@gmail.com To: ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert

Re: [OSM-talk] Edit review: intermittent waters

2012-05-29 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 05/29/12 13:51, Worst Fixer wrote: There are lot of ways to tag intermittent water feature found in database. Most popular is intermittent=yes. All others come from different old imports. Date ist 2009-2010 year. I countiered ~350 000 features tagged in different such ways. Most is done

[OSM-talk] moderation on OSM : It's a shame !!!

2012-05-29 Thread Mikel Maron
All In case you didn't see it the first time, this and related threads are moderated. Do not respond further to these threads, or you will be individually moderated. Thanks Mikel Moderators   * Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron___ talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Edit review: intermittent waters

2012-05-29 Thread Ed Loach
2. I don't think you should continue to make mass edits under the username WorstFixer because that implies that before you fixed things they were among the worst which has the potential to offend people. I've not been following what has and hasn't been done, or is proposed, but the username

Re: [OSM-talk] Edit review: intermittent waters

2012-05-29 Thread Phil Endecott
Worst Fixer wrote: I ask you to review my planned edit. There are lot of ways to tag intermittent water feature found in database. Most popular is intermittent=yes. All others come from different old imports. Date ist 2009-2010 year. I countiered ~350 000 features tagged in different such ways.

Re: [OSM-talk] Edit review: intermittent waters

2012-05-29 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2012/5/29 Phil Endecott spam_from_osm_t...@chezphil.org:  You're going to remove 9413 ele tags; why?  No doubt at some point someone decided that lake:shore_length:miles=2 was a useful thing to record, and you want to remove it.  Why? because there is no such thing as a shore length, it

Re: [OSM-talk] An indoor airport

2012-05-29 Thread Toby Murray
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 7:52 AM, SomeoneElse li...@mail.atownsend.org.uk wrote: The fence around an airport here (Bishkek in Kyrgyzstan): http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=42.83491lon=74.5764zoom=16layers=M Seems to have been tagged building = yes, building:levels = 2.  I'm sure it gets

Re: [OSM-talk] Edit review: intermittent waters

2012-05-29 Thread Phil Endecott
Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2012/5/29 Phil Endecott spam_from_osm_t...@chezphil.org: No doubt at some point someone decided that lake:shore_length:miles=2 was a useful thing to record, and you want to remove it. Â Why? because there is no such thing as a shore length, it depends on the

Re: [OSM-talk] TomTom is thumping us

2012-05-29 Thread Toby Murray
Hmm I seem to recall a stnav company accepting speed limit information from users and then having the problem that people set the roads in front of their houses to a speed limit of 0 so that the satnav routing would avoid it... wasn't that TomTom? Toby

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM : It's a shame !!!

2012-05-29 Thread Simon Poole
The node referenced created by cetest will not survive redaction (and I assume the rest of data to be similar), and neither do the edits on the way indicate anything other than normal editing (see http://osm.mapki.com/history/way.php?id=7539781). I am slightly at a loss to see what exactly Gert

Re: [OSM-talk] TomTom is thumping us

2012-05-29 Thread Steve Bennett
We'd be vulnerable to exactly the same kind of attack, right? Do we have any mechanisms to detect or prevent it? Steve On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 12:21 AM, Toby Murray toby.mur...@gmail.com wrote: Hmm I seem to recall a stnav company accepting speed limit information from users and then having

Re: [OSM-talk] TomTom is thumping us

2012-05-29 Thread SomeoneElse
Steve Bennett wrote: We'd be vulnerable to exactly the same kind of attack, right? Do we have any mechanisms to detect or prevent it? Well (at the risk of stating the bleeding obvious) we can actually see data that says maxspeed=0 rather than just wondering why we never actually get routed

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM : It's a shame !!!

2012-05-29 Thread Jean-Marc Liotier
On 05/29/2012 12:48 PM, ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen wrote: Sorry Emilie, it’s a pity if that creates some loss of data, but you should take it like a man I'm afraid she won't. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] Waste map and OSM?

2012-05-29 Thread Jaak Laineste
2012/5/28 valent.turko...@gmail.com valent.turko...@gmail.com: You have probably seen this Waste map project that uses OpenStreetMap as background for mapping waste all over the globe: http://www.letsdoitworld.org/waste_map Does anybody know what technology did they use to overlay images and

Re: [OSM-talk] TomTom is thumping us

2012-05-29 Thread Chris Hill
On 29/05/12 15:29, Steve Bennett wrote: We'd be vulnerable to exactly the same kind of attack, right? Do we have any mechanisms to detect or prevent it? A community! Steve On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 12:21 AM, Toby Murraytoby.mur...@gmail.com wrote: Hmm I seem to recall a stnav company

Re: [OSM-talk] Edit review: intermittent waters

2012-05-29 Thread Worst Fixer
Hello. I used reply to instead of reply to all in my mail agent. We had a small thread with Thomas. Here is major result we achived. Thomas expressed opinion that not 100% of water=intermittent have other tags, so we have no way count them as water. In my sub-extract of water=intermittent:

Re: [OSM-talk] Edit review: intermittent waters

2012-05-29 Thread Thomas Davie
Actually, the conclusion, while it involved that, also involved that there are potential other uses (e.g. on river=intermittent; stream=intermittent etc) that need to be checked too, and that this seems like an arbitrary renaming of tags that doesn't gain anything, but may destroy data. Thanks

Re: [OSM-talk] Edit review: intermittent waters

2012-05-29 Thread Russ Nelson
Worst Fixer writes: Just removed stream=fixme. Why? Removed all id-like tags. Why? If no valid objections will be raised, I upload this change on 2012-06-12. Don't. -- --my blog is athttp://blog.russnelson.com Crynwr supports open source software 521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1

Re: [OSM-talk] Edit review: intermittent waters

2012-05-29 Thread Russ Nelson
Frederik Ramm writes: 2. I don't think you should continue to make mass edits under the username WorstFixer because that implies that before you fixed things they were among the worst which has the potential to offend people. I always thought it meant that he was the worst person to be

Re: [OSM-talk] An indoor airport

2012-05-29 Thread Russ Nelson
Toby Murray writes: I pointed out this error before the edit was made but apparently community feedback was not respected before the automated edit was run... http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2012-May/063021.html Okay, Worst Fixer, you said that you wouldn't make the edit

Re: [OSM-talk] An indoor airport

2012-05-29 Thread Toby Murray
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 7:49 PM, Russ Nelson nel...@crynwr.com wrote: Toby Murray writes:   I pointed out this error before the edit was made but apparently   community feedback was not respected before the automated edit was   run...    

Re: [OSM-talk] Import of buildings in Chicago

2012-05-29 Thread Mike N
On 5/29/2012 1:09 AM, Alan Mintz wrote: I used to agree with you, but in terms of minimum labor, updates are best performed by retaining the original upload data, then doing a conflation between the original data and a later update. That will highlight only changes from the original source,

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM : It's a shame !!!

2012-05-29 Thread Mike Dupont
HI there, I thought FOSM was off topic, where are all the moderators to stop this thread? I never wanted to leave osm, osm made me leave. I never wanted to fork osm, osm forked itself to some new license. lets keep the facts straight, people just wanted to continue with the same system as

Re: [OSM-talk] Edit review: intermittent waters

2012-05-29 Thread Paul Norman
Could you post the code used to generate the changesets? That would be the easiest way for some of us to review your proposed changes. It wouldn’t remove the need to explain it to non-programmers, but it would be much easier for some of us if we could look at the code. That being said, a

Re: [Talk-br] Contribuições ao OSM em Manaus (transporte público) e perguntas

2012-05-29 Thread Anderson Lizardo
Olá Martin, 2012/5/23 Martin Weilandt martin...@gmx.net: Talvez nem seja uma boa ideia você colaborar com esses mapas baseados em Google Maps: As condições de Google Maps API não permitem o uso de arquivos KML criados usando Google Maps fora do mundo de Google. Em outras palavras: O valor

[Talk-de] Wie remappen? Was dabei beachten?

2012-05-29 Thread Robin Rattay
Hi, ich habe seit Jahren leider kaum was bei OSM editiert, nachdem ich vor fünf Jahren einiges an Grundlagen in meiner Stadt gemappt hatte. Nun habe ich mir im Zuge der Relizenzierung überlegt, ob ich nicht helfen sollte Daten von Nichtzustimmern zu überarbeiten. Aber wärend ich zwar den

[Talk-de] overpass-api - was bedeutet die Meldung ?

2012-05-29 Thread Jan Tappenbeck
hi ! ich habe folgendes URL abgesetzt die schon einmal min. funktioniert hat: http://overpass.osm.rambler.ru/cgi/xapi?way[construction_year=*][@meta] Bekomme jetzt folgende Meldung: The data included in this document is from www.openstreetmap.org. It has there been collected by a large group

Re: [Talk-de] overpass-api - was bedeutet die Meldung ?

2012-05-29 Thread Michael Krämer
Hallo Jan, 2012/5/29 Jan Tappenbeck o...@tappenbeck.net http://overpass.osm.rambler.ru/cgi/xapi?way[construction_year=*][@meta] Bekomme jetzt folgende Meldung: The data included in this document is from www.openstreetmap.org. It has there been collected by a large group of contributors.

[Talk-de] Tracks Selector wird zum Editor

2012-05-29 Thread Adrian Stabiszewski
Hi! Ich bin gerade dabei den Tracks Selector etwas zu erweitern. Die Darstellung und Bedienung wurde daher überarbeitet. Die Tracks werden jetzt bei MouseOver in einer anderen Farbe hervorgehoben. Darüber hinaus bereite ich gerade die Möglichkeit vor, die Tracks auch direkt im Browser

[Talk-de] Fwd: [Talk-at] derStandard Artikel - TomTom schimpf über OSM

2012-05-29 Thread Martin Vonwald
Weitergeleitet aus talk-at. -- Weitergeleitete Nachricht -- Von: ScubbX markus4mayr.li...@gmail.com Datum: 29. Mai 2012 14:46 Betreff: [Talk-at] derStandard Artikel - TomTom schimpf über OSM An: OpenStreetMap AT talk...@openstreetmap.org Hallo! Seht, was heute im onlineStandard

[Talk-it] R: è possibile salvare Bing o PCN in locale ?

2012-05-29 Thread Alech OSM
Ottimo! Questo intendevo: per ricalco come hai fatto tu oppure per aggiungere dettagli alle way, perché i sentieri in osm sono graficamente tutti uguali e senza uno sfondo fotografico non ricordo per esempio quale ha mtb_scale=1 e quale mtb_scale=3. Malizioso chi è andato subito a pensare a

Re: [Talk-it] R: è possibile salvare Bing o PCN in locale ?

2012-05-29 Thread Stefano Salvador
Malizioso chi è andato subito a pensare a qualcosa di illegale. :-/ in realtà non credo volessero sospettarti di cattive intenzioni, è che in passato siamo stati accusati gratuitamente dal PCN di ogni neffandezza, compresi quelli che cercavano di difendere certe loro scelte ... Tieni presente

[Talk-it] TomTom su OSM

2012-05-29 Thread emmexx
http://news.slashdot.org/story/12/05/29/019213/tomtom-flames-openstreetmap Tag: FUD ciao maxx ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it

Re: [Talk-it] TomTom su OSM

2012-05-29 Thread Luca 'remix_tj' Lorenzetto
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 9:40 AM, emmexx emm...@tiscalinet.it wrote: http://news.slashdot.org/story/12/05/29/019213/tomtom-flames-openstreetmap Tag: FUD Imagine if some of those 'self-driving cars' would use them. Esatto. Immaginiamo che usino i dati proprietari che contengono un ponte che non

[Talk-it] Svincoli autostradali senza restriction

2012-05-29 Thread beppebo...@libero.it
Non solo gli svincoli autostradali, girando per la mappa italiana e non solo ce ne sono a josa di svincoli non segnalati e senza restrizioni. Sarebbe un lavoro da fare tutti assieme svincolo per svincolo regione per regione. Chi mappa uno svincolo dovrebbe inserire subito le restrizioni e

Re: [Talk-it] TomTom su OSM

2012-05-29 Thread Sky One
2012/5/29 Luca 'remix_tj' Lorenzetto lorenzetto.l...@gmail.com: Esatto. Immaginiamo che usino i dati proprietari che contengono un ponte che non esiste (tempo fa bigshot me ne ha segnalato un paio in mezzo ai campi). Qualcuno che ha un TomTom aggiornato può guardare se a Piacenza c'è il

[Talk-it] tomtom parla di noi

2012-05-29 Thread Simone Cortesi
http://www.tomtom.com/en_gb/licensing/newsletter/201205/didyouknow/ e ha così tanta paura che non dice nemmeno il nostro nome :) Our map-makers are real experts -- -S ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-it] R: è possibile salvare Bing o PCN in locale ?

2012-05-29 Thread Alexander Roalter
Am 29.05.2012 09:18, schrieb Stefano Salvador: ... ... Tieni presente che il sistema di ban attuale del PCN è stato istituito dopo che GFOSS aveva messo in piedi un server di cache che serviva ad -aiutare- il loro lavoro ... Mi sono accorto che da un pò non è più possibile usare il PCN. Ci

Re: [Talk-it] R: è possibile salvare Bing o PCN in locale ?

2012-05-29 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2012/5/29 Alexander Roalter alexan...@roalter.it: Mi sono accorto che da un pò non è più possibile usare il PCN. Ci sono altri informazioni come mediare? funziona qui ;-) Hai provato di cancellare gli indirizzi del WMS dalle preferenze e di riaggiungerli dai presets (dopo aver fatto un update

Re: [Talk-it] R: è possibile salvare Bing o PCN in locale ?

2012-05-29 Thread Alexander Roalter
Am 29.05.2012 13:44, schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer: 2012/5/29 Alexander Roalteralexan...@roalter.it: Mi sono accorto che da un pò non è più possibile usare il PCN. Ci sono altri informazioni come mediare? funziona qui ;-) Hai provato di cancellare gli indirizzi del WMS dalle preferenze e di

[Talk-it] Terremoto in Emilia Romagna

2012-05-29 Thread sabas88
Ciao, vi riferisco la proposta di mcheck di mappare le zone colpite dal terremoto di questi giorni. Lui ha tracciato da PCN gli edifici di Finale Emilia ( http://osm.org/go/xdVQL~R9) ed è disponibile a tracciare altre zone. Stefano ___ Talk-it mailing

[Talk-it] (senza oggetto)

2012-05-29 Thread marco bra
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Re: [Talk-it] Terremoto in Emilia Romagna

2012-05-29 Thread Tiziano D'Angelo
2012/5/29 sabas88 saba...@gmail.com Lui ha tracciato da PCN gli edifici di Finale Emilia ( http://osm.org/go/xdVQL~R9) ed è disponibile a tracciare altre zone. Ho sistemato ed inserito alcune vie a Cavezzo (http://osm.org/go/xX~yOj~L-- ). Però in casi come questi sarebbe utile per non dire

Re: [Talk-it] Terremoto in Emilia Romagna

2012-05-29 Thread Stefano Salvador
Però in casi come questi sarebbe utile per non dire cruciale avere delle immagini satellitari aggiornate... Proviamo a sentire l'HOT? Sono stati fatti diversi rilievi nei giorni scorsi, alcuni anche molto dettagliati. Le scosse odierne hanno però tragicamente cambiato la situazione. In ogni

Re: [Talk-it] Terremoto in Emilia Romagna

2012-05-29 Thread Sky One
2012/5/29 Stefano Salvador stefano.salva...@gmail.com: Però in casi come questi sarebbe utile per non dire cruciale avere delle immagini satellitari aggiornate... Proviamo a sentire l'HOT? Sono stati fatti diversi rilievi nei giorni scorsi, alcuni anche molto dettagliati. Le scosse odierne

[Talk-it] R: Terremoto in Emilia Romagna

2012-05-29 Thread Alech OSM
Si , sicuramente servono per un'analisi dello stato attuale e la scelta dei tag adatti a rappresentare il danno Ma il ricalco degli edifici non può essere eseguito sulle immagini del 2006? -Messaggio originale- Da: Stefano Salvador [mailto:stefano.salva...@gmail.com] Inviato: martedì 29

Re: [Talk-it] R: Terremoto in Emilia Romagna

2012-05-29 Thread Luca Wehrstedt
Per inserire gli edifici si puo' fare l'import dei dati (molto accurati) forniti dalla regione Emilia Romagna: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/IT:Emilia_Romagna_edificato In questo modo si fa molto prima rispetto a ricalcarli dalle foto aeree. 2012/5/29 Alech OSM alech.hos...@gmail.com Si ,

Re: [Talk-it] R: Terremoto in Emilia Romagna

2012-05-29 Thread Gianmario Mengozzi
infatti... avevo già iniziato tempo fa ad importare nel comune dove vivo (Cesena) stasera vedo di concentrarmi sulla prov di Modena e Ferrara Il giorno 29 maggio 2012 16:22, Luca Wehrstedt luca.wehrst...@gmail.comha scritto: Per inserire gli edifici si puo' fare l'import dei dati (molto

[Talk-it] Tag per codice ISTAT e codice catasto

2012-05-29 Thread Luca Wehrstedt
Ciao a tutti, mi chiedevo quali sono i tag piu' appropriati per riportare il codice ISTAT e il codice catasto delle divisioni amministrative (comuni, province, regioni). Intendo le relazioni type=boundary/boundary=administrative, non i nodi place=*! Io proporrei *ref:ISTAT* e *ref:catasto*.

Re: [Talk-it] Tag per codice ISTAT e codice catasto

2012-05-29 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2012/5/29 Luca Wehrstedt luca.wehrst...@gmail.com: Io proporrei ref:ISTAT e ref:catasto. Tuttavia ho un paio di dubbi: Riguardo al primo: ho notato che e' gia' stato utilizzato il tag istat_id[1] sappiamo che sono costanti gli id dell'ISTAT? O sono anche sogetto a delle modifiche? In questo

Re: [Talk-it] Tag per codice ISTAT e codice catasto

2012-05-29 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
vedo che ci sono anche questi tags: 295 it:lombardia:ctrn:localita_significativa:COD_ISTAT 86 it:lombardia:ctrn:cod_istatn 86 it:lombardia:ctrn:cod_istat di cosa si tratta? Sono gli stessi codici? ciao, Martin ___ Talk-it mailing list

Re: [Talk-it] Tag per codice ISTAT e codice catasto

2012-05-29 Thread Luca Wehrstedt
2012/5/29 Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com sappiamo che sono costanti gli id dell'ISTAT? O sono anche sogetto a delle modifiche? In questo caso dovremo avere versioni (ref:istat:1,...) Questi ID sono abbastanza costanti: cambiano quando cambia il territorio amministrato dal comune

Re: [Talk-it] R: Terremoto in Emilia Romagna

2012-05-29 Thread Tiziano D'Angelo
Per inciso, ho dato un'occhiata alla viabilità della zona e mi pare manchino un po' di primary e secondary: una statale declassata (con old ref SS255) è classificata secondary mentre alcune provinciali sono solo tertiary... Che ne dite, facciamo qualche promozione? ciao Tiziano

Re: [Talk-it] R: Terremoto in Emilia Romagna

2012-05-29 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2012/5/29 Tiziano D'Angelo tiziano.dang...@gmail.com: Per inciso, ho dato un'occhiata alla viabilità della zona e mi pare manchino un po' di primary e secondary: una statale declassata (con old ref SS255) è classificata secondary mentre alcune provinciali sono solo tertiary... Che ne dite,

Re: [Talk-it] Tag per codice ISTAT e codice catasto

2012-05-29 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2012/5/29 Luca Wehrstedt luca.wehrst...@gmail.com: 2012/5/29 Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com secondome, se il tag precedentemente usato è istat_id lo utilizzerei anche in futuro (chiarendo prima la questione delle versioni). Il tag istat_id ha una semantica diversa (indica il codice

[Talk-co] Flash 59 Nivel Naranja Volcán Nevado del Ruiz

2012-05-29 Thread Sandra Calvo
NIVEL NARANJA(II): ERUPCIÓN PROBABLE EN TÉRMINO DE DÍAS O SEMANAS Durante las últimas horas se ha presentado un incremento importante en la actividad del volcán que se puede resumir en los siguientes aspectos: A las 03:07 (Hora Local) del día 29 de Mayo de 2012, se registró de una señal sísmica

Re: [Talk-co] Flash 59 Nivel Naranja Volcán Nevado del Ruiz

2012-05-29 Thread hyan...@gmail.com
Estimada Sandra: Buenos días y gracias por mantenernos informados. Ante la situación asalta la duda sobre cómo esta comunidad de maperos y desarrolladores de geo-aplicaciones puede contribuir de manera articulada a la prevención y atención de este posible e inminente desastre. Aparecen las

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