Re: [OSM-talk] highway=* + area=yes vs area:highway=*

The wiki has definitely had problems recently and we should have a good discussion about what we want from it. -- Andrew From: Paul Johnson Sent: 10 August 2018 18:13:36 To: Tomasz Wójcik Cc: Talk Openstreetmap Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] highway=* + area=yes vs

Re: [OSM-talk] Is it technically and legally possible to add the Open Location Code to the OSM search?

On 11.08.18 00:58, Andrew Harvey wrote: I agree, unless people start putting up signs of the Plus Codes outside their house and you're mapping that as the on the ground housenumber. ... ___ And they will not start putting up signs of the

Re: [OSM-talk] Is it technically and legally possible to add the Open Location Code to the OSM search?

On 18-08-09 15:32, oleksiy.muzal...@bluewin.ch wrote: > Open Location Codes are also referred to as "plus codes".  Since August > 2015, Google Maps supports plus codes in their search engine. The > algorithm is Open Source, licensed under the Apache License 2.0. and > available on GitHub [1].

Re: [Talk-de] Datum einer Kontrolle vermerken?

Hallo Andreas, > häufig sind vorhandene Tags veraltet und falsch. > sinnvoll: Zeitstempel der letzen Überprüfung > Damit könnte ich mir alle Objekte herausfiltern, die z.B. > länger als ein Jahr nicht überprüft wurden und gezielt hinfahren. :-) Das macht man in jedem

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] résumés des problèmes majeurs du rendu osm-fr et osm.org

Voir aussi cette page de doc de wget au sujet des "timestamps". https://www.gnu.org/software/wget/manual/html_node/Time_002dStamping-Usage.html Et la note concernant FTP: https://www.gnu.org/software/wget/manual/html_node/FTP-Time_002dStamping-Internals.html#FTP-Time_002dStamping-Internals Le

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] résumés des problèmes majeurs du rendu osm-fr et osm.org

Une piste à propos de Wget (voir http://www.gnu.org/software/wget/) qui indique : "Uses local file timestamps to determine whether documents need to be re-downloaded when mirroring" Note: "wget" peut utiliser HTTP ou FTP, mais les serveurs FTP sont connus pour ne pas afficher la date UTC mais

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] résumés des problèmes majeurs du rendu osm-fr et osm.org

Il toutefois que la synchro des diffs est basée sur les dates rapportées par https://tile.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/debug Il n'est pas clairement précisé dans ce "debug" comment est calculée cette date : est-ce une date "UTC" ou une date locale ? Sachant que les déménagement d'un serveur de

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] résumés des problèmes majeurs du rendu osm-fr et osm.org

> le serveur utilisé actuellement dépend de la position géographique > principalement mais peux aussi changer en cas de surcharge, > info vérifiable en temps réel avec > https://tile.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/debug > les 2 serveurs ok : Yevaud et Vial > les 2 serveurs affectés : Scorch et Rhaegal

Re: [OSM-talk] Is it technically and legally possible to add the Open Location Code to the OSM search?

I have two concerns about separate tags and they come from my validation experience with HOT mappers. The first is duplicate buildings. When faced with 50 duplicate buildings in a village if I'm feeling good I'll use the to do list to look at each pair and delete the one that is the one that

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] rendu et maj des tuiles

Le 10. 08. 18 à 10:58, Jérôme Seigneuret a écrit : > https://b.tile.openstreetmap.org/18/135336/92001.png > dernière modification 2018-08-10 10:43:09 > Satut de la tuile : Tile is Clean. > La date du dernier rendu correspond à la date de modification. > avec l'heure en UTC > y a t-il un problème

Re: [OSM-talk] Is it technically and legally possible to add the Open Location Code to the OSM search?

sent from a phone > On 10. Aug 2018, at 22:06, Blake Girardot HOT/OSM > wrote: > > In the short term, putting a few thousand plus-codes in as addresses, > while the local community tries them out. Who know if they work for > local folks, but just jamming a few thousand in will allow all the

Re: [OSM-talk] Is it technically and legally possible to add the Open Location Code to the OSM search?

sent from a phone > On 10. Aug 2018, at 22:06, Simon Poole wrote: > > As I've pointed out before, if OSM supports a specific system, it > amounts to us picking a winner , and I really don't think that is a good > idea. we could support any system that is used and can be used free and

Re: [Talk-de] Datum einer Kontrolle vermerken?

sent from a phone > On 11. Aug 2018, at 00:05, Andreas Meier wrote: > > Gibt es dazu Meinungen? (Wenn das > schon 100 Mal diskutiert wurde, dann wäre ich für einen Hinweis auf das > Ergebnis dankbar) ja, das wurde schon öfters mal vorgeschlagen. Es gibt z.B. diese metadaten tags in

Re: [Talk-de] Datum einer Kontrolle vermerken?

Da wirst Du Dich wohl darauf verlassen müssen, dass das Datum der letzten Änderung auch das Datum der letzten Überprüfung der Leerungszeit ist. Jeder zusätzliche Tag  würde die Datenbank nur mit sinnlosen Daten füllen, die nichts mit Geodaten zu tun haben Am 11.08.2018 um 00:05 schrieb

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] résumés des problèmes majeurs du rendu osm-fr et osm.org

Le 11. 08. 18 à 00:23, marc marc a écrit : > les 2 serveurs ok : Yevaud et Vial > les 2 serveurs affectés : Scorch et Rhaegal arf cela concernait le bug osm2pgsql et non la saturation des files des serveurs de rendu ___ Talk-fr mailing list

[Talk-de] Wege des WSV an den Kanälen / tagging

Ich könnte sowohl mit Track oder Service gut leben, aber aus den bisherigen Argumenten leitet sich ggf. eine Empfehlung ab: > Die Abgrenzung track zu service: letzteres ist es dann, wenn es keiner höheren Klasse angehört und wo hinführt, sonst track. Das finde ich eine sehr schön einfache

Re: [OSM-talk] Is it technically and legally possible to add the Open Location Code to the OSM search?

On Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 6:23 PM, Christoph Hormann wrote: > On Friday 10 August 2018, Blake Girardot HOT/OSM wrote: >> > The idea of tagging encoded coordinates is so ridiculous to anyone >> > with a bit of understanding of computer programming, data >> > processing and data maintainance that

Re: [OSM-talk] Is it technically and legally possible to add the Open Location Code to the OSM search?

On Friday 10 August 2018, Blake Girardot HOT/OSM wrote: > > The idea of tagging encoded coordinates is so ridiculous to anyone > > with a bit of understanding of computer programming, data > > processing and data maintainance that even after ignoring all the > > arguments in substance that have

[OSM-talk-fr] résumés des problèmes majeurs du rendu osm-fr et osm.org

email séparé pour éviter la noyade avec les autres problèmes :) ultra résumé pour ceux qui n'ont pas envie de tous lire : - il y a des bugs en cours de résolution tant sur le rendu osm.org que sur le rendu osm-fr - faire un /dirty sur les zoom faible ne sert a rien car ignoré - les zooms faible

Re: [Talk-dk] Konstruktioner i vand

Ja, men det er måske ikke rigtigt en breakwater. Det er mere en estakade. Men jeg ved heller ikke hvordan det skulle tagges. Afspærringen ved Holmen er tagget som: barrier fence fence_type chain_link wire_fence stockade seamark:type=wall er måske passende. Ifølge wikien er

[Talk-de] Datum einer Kontrolle vermerken?

Hallo zusammen, seit einiger Zeit tagge ich auch collection_times bei Briefkästen. Durchaus häufig sind vorhandene Tags veraltet und falsch. Leider kann ich den Briefkästen nicht ansehen, ob die collection_times letzte Woche oder vor 4 Jahren zuletzt überprüft wurden. Bestenfalls gibt es ein

Re: [OSM-talk] Is it technically and legally possible to add the Open Location Code to the OSM search?

On 2018-08-10 1:06 PM, Blake Girardot HOT/OSM wrote: Learning the real world use cases and where the proper technological solutions work and if there really genuinely are places where dynamic generation is just not possible. This seems totally in line with things done in the past and should

Re: [OSM-talk] Is it technically and legally possible to add the Open Location Code to the OSM search?

On 10 August 2018 at 22:47, Michael Reichert wrote: > > There is no need for this data in OSM because the data can be retrieved > automatically from latitude and longitude (plain coordinates) which are > already assigned to anything which has a location on the planet. > > Adding Plus Code tags to

Re: [Talk-dk] Konstruktioner i vand

Hej, Jeg skrev bl.a.: > I København er der i nordlig regning fra Slusen i Kalveboderne nogle > konstruktioener ude i vandet, som jeg ikke lige kan regne ud, hvordan > man kan/bør indtegne: > > https://binged.it/2KIfQe7 > http://troels.arvin.dk/osm/evidence/sluse_vand-ting/vand0.jpg [...] Ups.

Re: [OSM-talk] Is it technically and legally possible to add the Open Location Code to the OSM search?

On 10 August 2018 at 21:06, Blake Girardot HOT/OSM wrote: > Hi Frederick, > > I appreciate the thoughtful reply. > > I think for the most part we all agree on the technology solution > really looking like the best option. But it is the best option in the > medium and long term. > > In the short

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] interruption coupure d'une piste cyclable

Bonjour Le 10/08/2018 à 23:30, lenny.libre a écrit : faut-il descendre de vélo pour suivre ce chemin, prendre la route ? légalement oui quels attributs mettre ? cela redevient un traditionnel trottoir donc highway=footway footway=sidewalk Cordalement -- David Crochet

[OSM-talk-fr] interruption coupure d'une piste cyclable

Bonsoir, Il y a une piste https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/229173276 en arrivant au sud, se trouve un panneau de type C114 indiquant la fin d'une voie conseillée et réservée aux cyclistes https://www.mapillary.com/map/im/B_fw7x1IdkUKD4J3IQaRyQ La piste reprend au fond (dans la zone

Re: [OSM-talk] Is it technically and legally possible to add the Open Location Code to the OSM search?

On Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 4:35 PM, Simon Poole wrote: > That is not the point, for the goog it is a net win simply avoiding > systems being adopted for which they potentially would have to pay > royalties for. Is that not the reason OSM was started in the first place? :) But I agree, I hope

Re: [OSM-talk] Is it technically and legally possible to add the Open Location Code to the OSM search?

On 2018-08-10 21:06, Simon Poole wrote: While the goals sound worthy, it is unclear if any of the grid systems (w3w, plus codes and so on) deliver on their promises and have any traction outside of people in countries with established addressing systems trying to push them as solutions for

Re: [OSM-talk] Is it technically and legally possible to add the Open Location Code to the OSM search?

Let us just recap. Open Location Code can be used in OSMand today for anything in Openstreetmap. It both shows the OLC code and can search for the OLC code so to my mind OLC is already available in OpenStreetMap and can be used operationally today. There is no need to add additional tags to the

Re: [OSM-talk] Is it technically and legally possible to add the Open Location Code to the OSM search?

On Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 4:30 PM, Simon Poole wrote: > > > Am 10.08.2018 um 22:14 schrieb Blake Girardot HOT/OSM: >> ... >> Our community should have a say in what wins, we can try them both, >> but here is a local group asking us to try plus codes and there is a >> lot of momentum behind it. > In

[Talk-dk] Konstruktioner i vand

Hej, I København er der i nordlig regning fra Slusen i Kalveboderne nogle konstruktioener ude i vandet, som jeg ikke lige kan regne ud, hvordan man kan/bør indtegne: https://binged.it/2KIfQe7 http://troels.arvin.dk/osm/evidence/sluse_vand-ting/vand0.jpg Sådan ser det ud, set inde fra slusen:

Re: [OSM-talk] Is it technically and legally possible to add the Open Location Code to the OSM search?

Am 10.08.2018 um 22:18 schrieb Oleksiy Muzalyev: > ... > > The OLC is Open Source with the Apache 2.0 license. I have a doubt > though, - cannot Google in couple of years say: "We change the license > and not one has to pay for the OLC usage?" I am not a lawyer and I do > not know such

Re: [OSM-talk] Is it technically and legally possible to add the Open Location Code to the OSM search?

Am 10.08.2018 um 22:14 schrieb Blake Girardot HOT/OSM: > ... > Our community should have a say in what wins, we can try them both, > but here is a local group asking us to try plus codes and there is a > lot of momentum behind it. In the case of w3w one can actually make a technical case for

Re: [OSM-talk] Is it technically and legally possible to add the Open Location Code to the OSM search?

> > I think it will work like this - a dispatcher at an ambulance service says > during a call: "We will not go to your house unless you provide the > plus-code. Bot the Google Maps and OpenStreetMap websites allow to generate > the plus-code for a house." I mean it will not work without a

Re: [OSM-talk] Is it technically and legally possible to add the Open Location Code to the OSM search?

On 10.08.18 23:06, Simon Poole wrote: While the goals sound worthy, it is unclear if any of the grid systems (w3w, plus codes and so on) deliver on their promises and have any traction outside of people in countries with established addressing systems trying to push them as solutions for

Re: [OSM-talk] Is it technically and legally possible to add the Open Location Code to the OSM search?

On Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 4:06 PM, Simon Poole wrote: > > While the goals sound worthy, it is unclear if any of the grid systems > (w3w, plus codes and so on) deliver on their promises and have any > traction outside of people in countries with established addressing > systems trying to push them

Re: [OSM-talk] Is it technically and legally possible to add the Open Location Code to the OSM search?

While the goals sound worthy, it is unclear if any of the grid systems (w3w, plus codes and so on) deliver on their promises and have any traction outside of people in countries with established addressing systems trying to push them as solutions for countries without. As I've pointed out

Re: [OSM-talk] Is it technically and legally possible to add the Open Location Code to the OSM search?

Hi Frederick, I appreciate the thoughtful reply. I think for the most part we all agree on the technology solution really looking like the best option. But it is the best option in the medium and long term. In the short term, putting a few thousand plus-codes in as addresses, while the local

Re: [OSM-talk] Is it technically and legally possible to add the Open Location Code to the OSM search?

On Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 1:46 PM, Christoph Hormann wrote: > The idea of tagging encoded coordinates is so ridiculous to anyone with > a bit of understanding of computer programming, data processing and > data maintainance that even after ignoring all the arguments in > substance that have been

Re: [OSM-talk] Is it technically and legally possible to add the Open Location Code to the OSM search?

On 2018-08-10 20:11, Frederik Ramm wrote: The approach that I - and everyone else who applies the same logic - propose, is: 1. A zooms to their house on OSMAnd. 2. A clicks on the house to invoke the plus code computation function in OSMAnd. 3. OSMAnd displays the plus code. 4. A tells B the

Re: [OSM-talk] Is it technically and legally possible to add the Open Location Code to the OSM search?

On 10.08.18 22:26, Frederik Ramm wrote: ... The sensible approach is to add the logic that converts plus codes to locations and vice versa to those places where people interface with the map - be that the osm.org web site, ... This is the focal point of this discussion. Do we want to accept

Re: [OSM-talk] Is it technically and legally possible to add the Open Location Code to the OSM search?

On Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 8:18 PM Oleksiy Muzalyev < oleksiy.muzal...@bluewin.ch> wrote: > On 10.08.18 21:07, Mark Wagner wrote: > > On Fri, 10 Aug 2018 09:32:50 -0700 > > Vao Matua wrote: > > > >> Plus code can be calculated on the fly, but if they are > >> to be used we will need to have

Re: [OSM-talk] Is it technically and legally possible to add the Open Location Code to the OSM search?

Blake, On 10.08.2018 19:23, Blake Girardot wrote: > I think an approach based on local buy-in, with a small scale test of > adding the PlusCode address to the objects is the fastest, OSM'ish way > forward. Christoph was a bit harsh in his response but I think he is right on teh fundamentals, and

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] bug de rendu sur les lignes de terrain de sport sur le rendu osmfr

Bonjour, Je l'ai signalé le 18 juillet dernier à Christian Quest (cf ci-dessous) Le problème est apparu suite à la relance du serveur du rendu FR. Oups... je regarde d'où ça vient, car les requêtes SQL n'ont pas changé et la feuille de style non plus. Sûrement un effet de bord inattendu

Re: [OSM-talk] Is it technically and legally possible to add the Open Location Code to the OSM search?

On 10.08.18 21:07, Mark Wagner wrote: On Fri, 10 Aug 2018 09:32:50 -0700 Vao Matua wrote: Plus code can be calculated on the fly, but if they are to be used we will need to have hardcopy maps with the addresses that can be used to direct aid workers to a specific location. Plus codes form a

Re: [OSM-talk] Is it technically and legally possible to add the Open Location Code to the OSM search?

Hi, I am very surprised that this discussion is not dead yet. To me, this is like one person saying 1+1 is 2 and the other person saying 1+1 is 3. This is something that should not be a matter of opinion; this is a matter of logic. Vao, when you write: > My objective is to give addresses to

[OSM-talk-be] int_ref, ref spelling, no space between letter and number....

Hi, Where can I see and read what is the correct spelling of the E and other road network like A? Is there a space between the letter and number? The wiki https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Europe/E-road_network and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_E-road_network are

[Talk-br] Doações para a futura associação, favor declarar

Prezados colaboradores e colaboradoras empenhados na futura Associação OSM Brasil, Abrindo tópico aqui no Talk-BR para deixarmos registrado qualquer tipo de patrimônio ou hora-trabalho a ser contabilizado como doação para a Associação. O dia que ela passar a existir (registro de ata de

Re: [OSM-talk] Is it technically and legally possible to add the Open Location Code to the OSM search?

On 8/10/2018 1:33 PM, Barry Hunter wrote: But in the case of a long driveway wouldnt the address be attached to the entryway (so that directions etc, can route to the right location)? This isn't very common, and there's no documentation of this practice on the addr or service=driveway wiki

[Talk-ca] weeklyOSM #420 2018-07-31-2018-08-06

The weekly round-up of OSM news, issue # 420, is now available online in English, giving as always a summary of all things happening in the openstreetmap world: http://www.weeklyosm.eu/en/archives/10586/ Enjoy! weeklyOSM? who?: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WeeklyOSM#Available_Languages

[OSM-talk] weeklyOSM #420 2018-07-31-2018-08-06

The weekly round-up of OSM news, issue # 420, is now available online in English, giving as always a summary of all things happening in the openstreetmap world: http://www.weeklyosm.eu/en/archives/10586/ Enjoy! weeklyOSM? who?: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WeeklyOSM#Available_Languages

[Talk-us] weeklyOSM #420 2018-07-31-2018-08-06

The weekly round-up of OSM news, issue # 420, is now available online in English, giving as always a summary of all things happening in the openstreetmap world: http://www.weeklyosm.eu/en/archives/10586/ Enjoy! weeklyOSM? who?: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WeeklyOSM#Available_Languages

[OSM-talk-ie] weeklyOSM #420 2018-07-31-2018-08-06

The weekly round-up of OSM news, issue # 420, is now available online in English, giving as always a summary of all things happening in the openstreetmap world: http://www.weeklyosm.eu/en/archives/10586/ Enjoy! weeklyOSM? who?: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WeeklyOSM#Available_Languages

[talk-ph] weeklyOSM #420 2018-07-31-2018-08-06

The weekly round-up of OSM news, issue # 420, is now available online in English, giving as always a summary of all things happening in the openstreetmap world: http://www.weeklyosm.eu/en/archives/10586/ Enjoy! weeklyOSM? who?: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WeeklyOSM#Available_Languages

[Talk-GB] weeklyOSM #420 2018-07-31-2018-08-06

The weekly round-up of OSM news, issue # 420, is now available online in English, giving as always a summary of all things happening in the openstreetmap world: http://www.weeklyosm.eu/en/archives/10586/ Enjoy! weeklyOSM? who?: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WeeklyOSM#Available_Languages

[Talk-in] weeklyOSM #420 2018-07-31-2018-08-06

The weekly round-up of OSM news, issue # 420, is now available online in English, giving as always a summary of all things happening in the openstreetmap world: http://www.weeklyosm.eu/en/archives/10586/ Enjoy! weeklyOSM? who?: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WeeklyOSM#Available_Languages

[Talk-africa] weeklyOSM #420 2018-07-31-2018-08-06

The weekly round-up of OSM news, issue # 420, is now available online in English, giving as always a summary of all things happening in the openstreetmap world: http://www.weeklyosm.eu/en/archives/10586/ Enjoy! weeklyOSM? who?: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WeeklyOSM#Available_Languages

Re: [OSM-talk] Is it technically and legally possible to add the Open Location Code to the OSM search?

On Fri, 10 Aug 2018 09:32:50 -0700 Vao Matua wrote: > Plus code can be calculated on the fly, but if they are > to be used we will need to have hardcopy maps with the addresses that > can be used to direct aid workers to a specific location. Plus codes form a hierarchical grid, so supporting

Re: [OSM-talk] Is it technically and legally possible to add the Open Location Code to the OSM search?

On 10.08.18 20:46, Christoph Hormann wrote: On Friday 10 August 2018, Blake Girardot wrote: [...] Let us find a local community that is asking for this and give it a trial there. I read this as "lets find some country with no sufficiently organized local community to resists and push this

Re: [OSM-talk] Is it technically and legally possible to add the Open Location Code to the OSM search?

On Friday 10 August 2018, Blake Girardot wrote: > [...] > > Let us find a local community that is asking for this and give it a > trial there. I read this as "lets find some country with no sufficiently organized local community to resists and push this nonsense idea of adding encoded

Re: [OSM-talk] Is it technically and legally possible to add the Open Location Code to the OSM search?

On 10.08.18 20:09, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: this only if you see it as location information, not if it is used as an address (the location where to go to, see the example of the long driveway above) Cheers, Martin ___ There could be a

Re: [OSM-talk] Is it technically and legally possible to add the Open Location Code to the OSM search?

On Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 6:09 PM Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > > sent from a phone > > > On 10. Aug 2018, at 19:02, Barry Hunter wrote: > > > > another issue with it being added as tags, if the node is moved to > correct its location, the editor would have to remember to update the > plus-code

Re: [OSM-talk] Is it technically and legally possible to add the Open Location Code to the OSM search?

Friends! On Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 12:32 PM, Vao Matua wrote: > There are several conflicting perspectives here. > My objective is to give addresses to people who will never have one. I want to do this too and plus codes do seem like a good solution, not perfect, but pretty darn good, especially

Re: [OSM-talk] highway=* + area=yes vs area:highway=*

Sounds fine by me. Seems there's a decent sized contingency working the wiki independently of how things are actually tagged anymore, it's been getting hard to point to the wiki as a usable reference for a couple years now. On Fri, Aug 10, 2018, 05:08 Tomasz Wójcik wrote: > So basing on your

Re: [OSM-talk] Is it technically and legally possible to add the Open Location Code to the OSM search?

sent from a phone > On 10. Aug 2018, at 19:02, Barry Hunter wrote: > > another issue with it being added as tags, if the node is moved to correct > its location, the editor would have to remember to update the plus-code tags > as well (not just the lat/long) this only if you see it as

Re: [OSM-talk] Is it technically and legally possible to add the Open Location Code to the OSM search?

> It is interesting that this effort for addressing is being trashed because > it is savvy technology. > Dont see anyone has 'trashed' the idea of using Plus Codes as such. Just the bulk import of them as *data* to the core OSM database. Its redundant data. > Plus code can be calculated on

Re: [OSM-talk] Is it technically and legally possible to add the Open Location Code to the OSM search?

There are several conflicting perspectives here. My objective is to give addresses to people who will never have one. Last year I was living in a city in Africa ( 6GVW2FXH+4H ) with a population of a half a million people. None of the

Re: [OSM-talk] highway=* + area=yes vs area:highway=*

sent from a phone > On 10. Aug 2018, at 12:02, Tomasz Wójcik wrote: > > So basing on your opinions, it looks like highway=* + area=yes isn't > incorrect, it's just not documented. I believe it is documented. It means a traffic area (omnidirectional) as opposed to a street (linear). It

Re: [Talk-GB] vehicle barrier

On 10/08/2018 15:08, Edward Catmur wrote: Oh, I'd map that as barrier=cycle_barrier without hesitation - it's even made of the archetypal aluminium tubing. Ok, will do. It's just that if you asked the residents I don't think they intended it primarily to deter furious cycling. Its purpose is

Re: [Talk-GB] vehicle barrier

If you don't like barrier=cycle_barrier, there's also barrier=chicane - I'd consider barrier=cycle_barrier to be a subset of barrier=chicane. But then you'd definitely need to provide comprehensive access tags. On Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 3:08 PM Edward Catmur wrote: > > Oh, I'd map that as

Re: [Talk-GB] 'historic' county boundaries added to the database

On 10/08/18 13:00, Martin Wynne wrote: In this area I was taken to task for adjusting an unexplained boundary, which turned out to be the local "PlusBus" area boundary for inclusive fares from the nearest railway station That's likely to be subject to database rights, as I don't think that it

Re: [Talk-GB] vehicle barrier

Oh, I'd map that as barrier=cycle_barrier without hesitation - it's even made of the archetypal aluminium tubing. The fact that it's across a road rather than a "path, footway, cycleway or track" is a pretty minor point compared to construction and intent. For prior art see e.g.

Re: [Talk-GB] 'historic' county boundaries added to the database

On 2018-08-10 15:35, Mark Goodge wrote: > On 10/08/2018 13:14, Colin Smale wrote: > >> Who is the arbiter of relevance? I think for any given "mapper" or >> "consumer" 99% of the contents of OSM is not relevant. People are mapping >> the nuts and bolts of the insulators on electricity pylons..

Re: [OSRM-talk] Updating a map

It is possible that your problem is something other than memory, but I have no way of knowing. I believe the usual advice is to use a service like Amazon Web Service (AWS) where you can use a machine with more memory for the amount of time it takes to prepare the maps. I imagine it would be

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] [OSM-talk] highway=* + area=yes vs area:highway=*

highway=* with area=yes are already most often for highway=pedestrian, but actually renderers already apply consistant representations whe nthese are used for other types of highways: the typical use is the representation of residential highways without exit: instead of a terminal node with a

Re: [Talk-GB] 'historic' county boundaries added to the database

On 10/08/2018 13:14, Colin Smale wrote: Who is the arbiter of relevance? I think for any given "mapper" or "consumer" 99% of the contents of OSM is not relevant. People are mapping the nuts and bolts of the insulators on electricity pylons.. I can't see that being relevant to most people.

Re: [OSM-talk] Is it technically and legally possible to add the Open Location Code to the OSM search?

On 8/10/2018 9:01 AM, oleksiy.muzal...@bluewin.ch wrote: Probably it is done so that plus-codes are known to local actors? Perhaps, local conditions differ from European ones to the degree that it is difficult to comprehend without being part of local community? That is a perfect use case for

Re: [OSM-talk] Is it technically and legally possible to add the Open Location Code to the OSM search?

A simple stopgap solution would be a program that converted one to the other where the result could be cut and pasted into another program. They are probably called apps these days. If you know the code it would give you the lat and long in a format that could be searched by Nominatim. Grabbing

Re: [OSM-talk] Is it technically and legally possible to add the Open Location Code to the OSM search?

Probably it is done so that plus-codes are known to local actors? Perhaps, local conditions differ from European ones to the degree that it is difficult to comprehend without being part of local community?In any case, I actually tried once to pass a location over telephone by telling the

Re: [OSM-talk] Is it technically and legally possible to add the Open Location Code to the OSM search?

I would agree the import should be reverted. The data is redundant and there is a danger that it might not be correct. The pure lat and long data already in OSM can be used to calculate the code. It does add weight to the idea of making them searchable perhaps with a JOSM plugin and support in

Re: [OSM-talk] Is it technically and legally possible to add the Open Location Code to the OSM search?

Hi, Am 2018-08-09 um 22:48 schrieb Vao Matua: > The Tanzania Development trust has calculated the Plus Code addresses for > 17 million building points in Tanzania and have added a sample village > (1800 points) as a test. > https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/59213224 > > The Python code on

Re: [Talk-GB] vehicle barrier

> The description of barrier=cycle_barrier in the wiki looks like > it might be what you need, combined with appropriate access tags. > I'd say that's a cycle barrier - the intention would be to allow > pedestrians to pass, force cyclists to dismount Thanks for the suggestions. For

Re: [Talk-GB] 'historic' county boundaries added to the database

Postal counties (mainly a outer London and Manchester thing in this context) are essentially defunct. -- Andrew From: Martin Wynne Sent: 10 August 2018 13:00:40 To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] 'historic' county boundaries added to the

Re: [OSM-ja] placeのcityとtownの使い分け

batosm様 ご意見ありがとうございます。 batosm様の感覚のとおり、日本ではplace=city/town/villageは市/町/村と定義されています。詳しくは日本向けの定義をまとめたページをご確認ください。 https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Japan_tagging 上記ページを参照すると、千代田区をtownとしたタグ付けは間違いであることが確認できます。 ただ、place=city/town/villageの各ページに日本向けの解説がなかったことも確かなので、この機会に追記いたしました。

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] bug de rendu sur les lignes de terrain de sport sur le rendu osmfr

Je confirme et c'est partout. Et pas un problème de rafraîchissement ; certainement un bogue dans la formule de calcul d'angle (ou un changement inattendu dans une fonction mathématique utilisée) http://tile.openstreetmap.fr/?zoom=17=48.11792=-1.64677=B00 Si c'était une inversion inattendue

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] [OSM-talk] highway=* + area=yes vs area:highway=*

@djakk all object are area but that don't make sens use it in database because data are an abstraction. area is documented! highway are in model linestring but in other context it is as an area so highway area are forced with area=yes to map this object. there is no other solution to set an

Re: [OSM-talk] Odp: Re: highway=* + area=yes vs area:highway=*

On 2018-08-10 14:01, marekskleciak wrote: > We have also mechanism for area routing but, that's true graphs are easier.. Do you have any links/references for area routing? What "mechanism" are you thinking of here?___ talk mailing list

Re: [Talk-GB] 'historic' county boundaries added to the database

On 2018-08-10 13:37, Mark Goodge wrote: > On 10/08/2018 12:05, John Aldridge wrote:I'd like to register a +1 in favour > of accepting these historic counties. > > I *generally* agree with your principle of 'only mapping what is on the > ground', but if we followed that strictly we wouldn't map

Re: [Talk-GB] 'historic' county boundaries added to the database

Hi On 10/08/2018 12:05, John Aldridge wrote: I *generally* agree with your principle of 'only mapping what is on the ground', but if we followed that strictly we wouldn't map current administrative boundaries either. That isn't the correct mantra. "OpenStreetMap is a place for mapping

[OSM-talk] Odp: Re: highway=* + area=yes vs area:highway=*

We have also mechanism for area routing but, thats true graphs are easier.. Dnia 10 sierpnia 2018 13:52 Tom Pfeifer t.pfei...@computer.org napisał(a): On 10.08.2018 13:20, djakk djakk wrote: No, all highways are areas :) Mapping them as a line is a manual generalization ;) 1., yes. 2.,

Re: [Talk-GB] 'historic' county boundaries added to the database

The "historic" boundaries, though, whatever particular snapshot of them you choose as the most important one, don't have any relevance to everyday life. Are not some of them still relevant to post-code areas and postal counties? Lots of useful stuff appears on OSM for which there is nothing

Re: [OSM-talk] highway=* + area=yes vs area:highway=*

On 10.08.2018 13:20, djakk djakk wrote: No, all highways are areas :) Mapping them as a line is a manual generalization ;) 1., yes. 2., no, it is a mental abstraction, necessary to apply the mathematical graph theory for routing. On 10.08.2018 12:02, Tomasz Wójcik wrote: > ... it looks

Re: [Talk-GB] 'historic' county boundaries added to the database

On 10/08/2018 12:05, John Aldridge wrote: I'd like to register a +1 in favour of accepting these historic counties. I *generally* agree with your principle of 'only mapping what is on the ground', but if we followed that strictly we wouldn't map current administrative boundaries either.

Re: [OSM-talk] highway=* + area=yes vs area:highway=*

No, all highways are areas :) Mapping them as a line is a manual generalization ;) djakk Le ven. 10 août 2018 à 12:15, Andy Townsend a écrit : > > > So basing on your opinions, it looks like highway=* + area=yes isn't > incorrect, it's just not documented. > > I'd suggest that it depends

Re: [Talk-cz] geograficke regiony v CR

On Fri 2018-08-10 11:19:50, Jan Macura wrote: > Ahoj, > > nemáte pocit, že tohle do OSM nepatří? Jak se zjišťují hranice a názvy > geomorfologických jednotek* on the ground*? Jsem mistni tak to proste vim? Zeptam se mistnich jak se to tady jmenuje? :-). Ja bych to v mape videl rad.

Re: [Talk-GB] 'historic' county boundaries added to the database

I'd like to register a +1 in favour of accepting these historic counties. I *generally* agree with your principle of 'only mapping what is on the ground', but if we followed that strictly we wouldn't map current administrative boundaries either. These historic counties do, rightly or wrongly,

[Talk-GB] vehicle barrier

What is the correct tagging for this type of barrier across a road? Two lengths of parallel railings with a narrow opening at alternate ends. Blocking vehicles but allowing pedestrian access: ___ |___ | In the particular

Re: [Talk-es] Proyecto de mapeado de info sobre bicicletas

Toda la info estará en la wiki de Geoinquietos Córdoba, pero si lo veis puedo replicar la info en OSM. Este es el enlace de lo que hicimos en 2014 ( https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Opencyclecordoba) El vie., 10 ago. 2018 a las 12:40, Miguel Sevilla-Callejo (< msevill...@gmail.com>) escribió: >

Re: [Talk-es] Proyecto de mapeado de info sobre bicicletas

Deberíamos poner las iniciativas con los enlaces en la wiki y así tener la información centralizada, aún más que por la lista de correo. Que vaya bien esa iniciativa Patricio. Ya nos dirás Un saludo -- *Miguel Sevilla-Callejo* Doctor en Geografía On Fri, 10 Aug 2018 at 12:36, Patricio Soriano

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