mmunity-Konsultation stattgefunden hat,
beweist doch schon sowas wie
https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/55841635
wo massenhaft aus existierenden "addr:housenumber" ein "addr:unit" wurde
- das hätte ihm jeder Mapper, egal ob im Forum oder in der Mailingliste,
sagen können, d
t; in OSM anzulegen, aus
dem sich OHM-Fans dann bei Bedarf bedienen können...
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ot;utilsplugin2"
function "replace geometry" might be useful; it would try to keep the
existing objects in OSM and just refine their geometry, rather than
deleting and re-creating stuff.
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;Hau wech den Sch...marrn" ;)
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something roughly similar, I could probably take
it from there. Else I'd have to hold a separate copy of the routing
graph for this and that would seem a waste!
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m or at least treat them as less relevant?
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to ruin our good image by using data that is not suitably
licensed, it is everyone's duty to prevent that from happening.
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y done in the prepare-data-for-routing step
and not on OSM! Maybe whatever the use case is here, the user can take a
cue (or even code) from such preprocessing.
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project; that way you'll get a better idea of working with the data as a
mapper, of what makes sense and what doesn't. Of just how precise you'd
like a building footprint to be when you edit it by hand later, and so on.
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Hi,
On 01/04/18 15:01, Kristina Müller wrote:
> BItte aus der Liste nehmen, danke!
Erledigt...
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hier loswerden und vielleicht eine kleine Diskussion anfangen,
vielleicht Ideen sammeln, was man tun könnte, oder ob ich das ganze
total übertrieben sehe...
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outing.osm.ch/ ?
Das erstere hat weltweite Daten.
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ments),
but osm2pgsl is really the better approach because it builds the
polygons on a "topological" level (using OSM node IDs) instead of on the
geometric level (looking only at coordinates).
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ways, the truth is somewhere in between.
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ou") - in my view, a pub in your
town is not "relevant" because the chain operating it thinks that it
should be, but because the locals find it relevant.
I do concede that I've mapped many a business in random places I've been
to without asking the locals if it is relevant to them thoug
ty for what it is. I'm totally ok with you being more
grown up than me.
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uot; -
that we need to finally replace our youthful enthusiasm with a more
resigned "the grown-ups were right after all" attitude.
Luckily, SEO companies are here to help, to enable even more people to
"engage with brands" through our map. Win-win!
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nflate, and
interpolate away, instead of a project where all sorts of people from
all walks of life contribute their knowledge.
I think we're not an IT project, and that's good.
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er Meldung noch sehr wenig steht und die jeder eingeladen ist,
mitzugestalten:
https://www.fossgis.de/wiki/OSMF_Local_Chapter_Deutschland
(Accounts im FOSSGIS-Wiki können genauso angelegt werden wie beim
OSM-Wiki und eine Vereinsmitgliedschaft ist dafür nicht erforderlich.)
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die schon als richtige Spalten drin sind, und die
"tags->'x' as x"-Syntax für die andren.
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day and who beg you to allow them to make up for it without breaking
their "streak" ;)
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e was anything to protect.)
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ructions to absolute newcomers on how to fix
bridges, then there might be a point where responsibility shifts to me
and I am now "directing" these people to use the QA tool to fix things.)
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ure that people looking at your edits know that they are
> part of a directed mapping activity
Good catch ;) - there are likely to be a number of style and language
issues that we'll have to sort out once the contents are agreed but I'll
make sure to flag this.
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had adhered to the
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ons made by others. This sort of
"cleanup" benefits few but your personal sense of orderliness, and your
time is better spent actually improving data instead of just fiddling
with how the same data is represented in the database.
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re in common than being farmland; for example if the three
areas together share a local name or so.)
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a free press at all more than makes up for that.
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silent agreement - don't. Ever.
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someone does the same just without JOSM in the loop,
of course it's also a mechanical edit that requires prior discussion.
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nsus isn't
necessarily written somewhere because you will learn about it while
becoming a member of the community. Even so, everyday normal mapping
(even by a total newbie) hardly ever falls foul of community consensus
if mappers let themselves be guided by presets and try do "blend in".
ction even if the individual extracted bits are not copyrighted.
This concept doesn't exist in the US to my knowledge, but someone using
such a database in, for example, the EU, could be sued by the database
owner. That's why OSM must avoid adding location data that has been
derived from non-free sou
I said, this is not aimed specifically at you; I think the last time
I said it was in a discussion about a tree import where the importers
asked critics to simply take their energy elsewhere instead of being
"negative" about the import.
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always go hand-in-hand with
a plan on how to get the review done in a reasonable time. The 12
million "tiger:reviewed-no" in the US seem to have no intent of dying
out ;-)
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if the person
running the mapathon has put them in a position to make quality edits
then it's the individual's fault for choosing not to...)
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of HOT and OSM, and discourages these people (who would have
made a valuable contribution given proper training) from contributing
further.
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t. Das kann man vermutlich besser
herausfinden, wenn man in Minsk ist...
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t the feature in question, and not by a machine that
compares name tags to Wikipedia entries and takes a wild guess.
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then that's what it is.
But even in the absence of a particular objection from someone local,
many in OSM take a dim view of "gardening" in areas where you don't even
know the language or culture. It is much too easy to make mistakes.
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helpful" Wikidata
edits.
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Christoph has written. One that does
express how you're upset while at the same time *not* being "combative"
and all those bad things you said about Christoph's post.
Maybe then I can use that to express myself in a more internationally
compatible way in the future ;)
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laboration" happens on Missing Maps,
but hey, at least they write "OSM makes all of this possible" which is
accurate.
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Hi,
On 09/21/2017 09:21 PM, Frederik Ramm wrote:
> die DWG hat eine Umfrage zum Thema "organisiertes Mappen"
> veröffentlicht.
Und hier sind die Ergebnisse:
https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Data_Working_Group/Results_of_Organised_Editing_Survey_2017
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-
Hi,
the results are in!
https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Data_Working_Group/Results_of_Organised_Editing_Survey_2017
Thank you everyone who participated.
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erstood that.
Initially I thought you simply needed some time to "get" OSM, but now I
am convinced that you don't really want to understand. You believe that
you are right and everyone else should finally admit that.
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ping it - but that's what you have to do when you deal with humans
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inued
- again and again. This may look friendly on paper; you didn't use any
swear words and you always said thank you. But after a while, the "thank
yous" ring hollow. Your actions are treating OSM with disrespect, and
have been doing so for the last half year. You have no right to complain
tag world-wide?
This service is going to create only trouble, and you know that
perfectly well.
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t it over on the talk list, here:
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2017-October/079116.html
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atic (or even sporadic) effort of cleaning up these
old imports? Is there reason to believe that the neglect extends to more
than just the tags - do geometry and topology usually work well on
these, or are the funny tags a huge "this whole area hasn't had any love
in a long time" sign?
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Hi,
On 10.10.2017 03:16, Frederik Ramm wrote:
> I still have the raw data and I'll write a quick script
> that finds these cases and restores the names.
Should be done here
https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/52829433
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k script
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ommunity members to become invested in the community and develop
ownership over the knowledge."
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? finde.cash macht das derzeit genau anders herum :-( dass sollte
> ich dann fix ändern.
Wart mal ab, was andere dazu sagen, ich bin bestimmt nicht der Experte
im Geldautomatentagging ;)
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x vorkommen, als rote Pünktchen auf einer Karte.
Führt dann aber auch wieder zu der Gefahr des automatischen
"Korrigierens" und der damit verbundenen anderen Qualitätsmängel.
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doch eher
unwahrscheinlich. Brauchen wir dann ein Datenmodell, mit dem wir das
abbilden können?
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meanwhile been changed again,
or where the object has been deleted; these redactions will be of little
consequence.
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or where the object has been deleted; these redactions will be of little
consequence.
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tradictions and confusions - so if you help him to refine the
proposal so it doesn't do that, everyone should win?
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program",
none of which I remember doing. It's totally possible that I simply
forgot though.
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nalyze the
results and share them with you, then draft a policy informed by the
results and the discussion here and elsewhere, and present that for
further discussion.
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erstanding about how OSM works.
I have suggested to them to discuss the matter on this (talk-co) mailing
list, maybe somebody shows up some day and you can discuss the matter
with them.
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ery engine that
relies on tags added just a few days ago, all going on *while* this
discussion is happening. Individual cases being brought up in the
discussion quickly leading to another large-scale "fix" - it is really
hard to follow.
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bot:building=yes"?
And how could that be differentiated from a building that originally had
building=YES and the bot only lowercased the tag value?
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ring most calls
for moderation, and Andy Mabbett from England editing supermarkets in
Germany.
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ce cream parlour because Q123456 is the generic
Wikidata category for ice cream parlours, then I think I'd rather not
have any Wikidata links in OSM at all.
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try.
I was hoping to get things over with this month which is going to get a
bit tight but I'm still planning that. Unless there's a reason to wait?
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ags have *not* been acted on since the original import 5 years ago,
changing this to "gtfs:reviewed=no" will suddenly have an effect?
Are all these automatic edits at least discussed on the Israeli mailing
list, or is this a free-for-all where anyone who knows how to write a
script runs ov
Hi,
On 25.09.2017 13:48, Matthijs Melissen wrote:
> Changing some of the labels is something we could do with one
> line of code and roll out tomorrow, if we wanted to.
Yes. Don't.
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t; tags or even use Latin
renderings altogether for "name". A future option of "display the name
you like" will also free these mappers to map the correct local names.
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sweeten the deal
then.
Also, personally I'm in a similar situation to Maarten. I'm from Germany
and I don't want a map with all German or all English names; ideally I
want a map with local names except where I can't read them ;)
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age ist hier möglich (allerdings nur auf
Englisch):
https://osm-dwg.limequery.org/741554
Man *kann* am Ende seinen Usernamen angeben, aber man kann sie auch
anonym ausfüllen.
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nt
to different things an hence the import wouldn't introduce "errors" per se?
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e event.
Certainly "organised" doesn't simply mean that someone gets a room an
pizza. They would have to provide instruction and guidance too.
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y different locations, implying that its an
> incorrect link).
Again, OpenStreetMap is not a workbench for importing and then fixing
non-OSM data (even if it may look convenient). Please build a QA process
based on the un-imported data and import it once you have fixed the
problems.
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ki/Proposed_features/stop_line
The proposal certainly needs fleshing out. Personally I think the use of
the "highway" tag is questionable since there will be many applications
out there that treat any linear feature with highway=* as something you
can travel on.
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haben, was und wie sie wollten und alle Freiheiten genossen
haben, können leicht selbst zum engstirningen Neues-Abblocker werden,
wenn plötzlich ein Neuling in "ihrem" Terrain unterwegs ist.
Oder anders: Wer ohne Tadel ist, der werfe den ersten Stein...
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t werden, und wenn man zwischendurch einen
Edit ablehnt, könnte die ganze folgende Kette in sich zusammenfallen.
Wenn Du das auch nur *halbwegs* zufriedenstellend lösen könntest, gäbe
Dir jede Informatikfakultät einen Ehrendoktor.
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auch die Leute, die sie zerstört haben.
Und die, denen die Daten was genützt haben.
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Hi,
On 07.09.2017 16:51, Max Erickson wrote:
> Broadly speaking, yes, such continuity should apply. Maybe not using
> exactly the same rule as the US DOT.
I know this is talk-us and I won't attempt to say anything USA specific
but such continuity definitely does not apply world-wide in OSM
e wiki page
for Corpus Christy says "QA: Validation: Use of validation tools in the
Tasking Manager process", but I assume that just refers to usual
automatic checks done by JOSM, not a second person inspecting the result?
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give future discussions a solid
foundation through research.
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s to answer complaints about bad beach routing ;)
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import documentation.
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ct from OSM") und dann, wenn Du das
poly-File-Plugin hast, direkt als .poly abspeichern.
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105 "Illinois"
96 "California"
90 "Hawaii"
81 "District of Columbia"
79 "Colorado"
61 "Iowa"
49 "Rhode Island"
46 "Michigan"
27 "Nebraska"
27 &quo
few more weeks won't kill us. We can sort this out
calmly and then do the right thing.
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few more weeks won't kill us. We can sort this out
calmly and then do the right thing.
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the site
> http://geosampa.prefeitura.sp.gov.br/PaginasPublicas/_SBC.aspx
> Therefore, any edition of streets that he has done in the city of São Paulo
> can be recovered with official data.
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e?
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up not having a name will probably show up in
enough QA tools already, no?
I'll do a count of how many names would revert and how many would be
removed altogether. Maybe it is indeed best to simply ditch them all.
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up not having a name will probably show up in
enough QA tools already, no?
I'll do a count of how many names would revert and how many would be
removed altogether. Maybe it is indeed best to simply ditch them all.
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how it could
be avoided.
Here's a list of way IDs affected, with country and state:
http://www.remote.org/frederik/tmp/chdr.details
I am trying to keep the damage to OSM to a minimum while at the same
time respecting copyright. If anyone wants to spot check a few
how it could
be avoided.
Here's a list of way IDs affected, with country and state:
http://www.remote.org/frederik/tmp/chdr.details
I am trying to keep the damage to OSM to a minimum while at the same
time respecting copyright. If anyone wants to spot check a few
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