I had a bit of an interest in tagging speed limits a few years back. It's
way more complicated than it should be in the UK. Researching led me down a
bit of a rabbit hole of legislation & case law.
I made the following personal notes about UK limits and how to recognise
them, which I think is
The subject of UK speed limits and problems of mapping them has come up a
couple of times on these lists.
Firstly we have a problem because many users want a single numerical value
in the maxspeed tag, despite UK legislation having a range of speed limits
for road dependent on the physical nature
On 2 June 2013 19:11, Steve Brook srbr...@tiscali.co.uk wrote:
Should the parent relation be a route_master is that just for buses? I am
considering splitting it into three separate child relations, one for each
side of the triangle. This would overcome the problem I faced where you
have to
On 8 May 2013 16:09, Jason Woollacott wool...@hotmail.com wrote:
And then we end up with disputes over what areas you are and are not
permitted to enter. Broken Lines, and you are permitted to enter if
safe, solid lines, only permitted to enter in an emergency. Both of
which
On 28 February 2013 23:07, Jason Woollacott wool...@hotmail.com wrote:
Hi Jason,
Think I’ve managed to fix the problem.
Looks like a user had split the heath area, and then added a stream tag
to part of it. This stream was actually sat on top of another stream when
I separated them.
On 8 March 2013 09:04, Tom Chance t...@acrewoods.net wrote:
I live in Crystal Palace, that's not far from where my brother and sister
in law live. I'll get onto it.
Tom
I left the area just before Tom moved in. I can pass on a bit of advice.
The problems are in The Central Hill Estate, an
It looks like an edit in the Dartmoor area has caused problems. A large
square chunk of heath is missing with a waterway unnaturally running along
the line of the bottom right of the square.
I've had a quick look but it looks like it's not a quick fix, well at least
not for me. Does anyone want
Find myself more or less agreeing with the points Chris and Dudley made. I
see see farmland as a default, and haven't put any effort into mapping
farmland or fields. But I also agree with Tom's point, it is information
that has a place in the database, and you dont need to render it if you
dont
This subject kind of came up when the HS2 route was announced and made
available as open data. I didn't agree with that proposed route being added
to Openstreetmap, because I didn't feel the likelihood of it happening was
high enough.
Below is my, slightly amended, views on 'proposed' routes
On 30 September 2012 22:43, Peter Miller peter.mil...@itoworld.com wrote:
So what about slip roads on non-motorway dual-carriageways? Are these
70mph or 60mph in your view?
Thanks,
Peter
From what I've read I think there's a problem with the term '*
dual-carriageway*' being commonly used
As I mentioned earlier on it was speed limits for roundabouts along a dual
carriageway that led to me doing a bit of research on UK speed limit
legislation.
My 'notes' are below
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Jamicu/UK_Speed_Limits
A roundabout does not meet the given definition of a
On 26 September 2012 11:02, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net wrote:
- I only _use_ OSM data for the UK, where we don't have imports, and I'm
not
on DWG so I don't have to deal with the angry mails. I'm simply trying to
help and getting hostile doesn't really encourage that.)
Richard
The waterways in the area of the road seemed also to cause a problem. I've
remapped them and they've now sorted themselves out
Jason
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Just seen that the latest OpenGeoData blog entry (Weekly OSM Summary #47)
links to a weather map that uses OSM as map.
Reminded me that a UK weather website is using OpenStreetMap for its maps,
and that the free version of the live rain map might prove useful to people
out mapping. Does not work
On 29 May 2012 23:59, Colin Smale colin.sm...@xs4all.nl wrote:
I have prepared a set of GPX files (one per admin area) from the main OS
shapefiles. What would be the best way to get these into OSM?
Thanks for doing this. I agree use of the data will require individuals
effortt, so I'd
On 25 May 2012 12:30, Andrew Chadwick a.t.chadw...@gmail.com wrote:
What value should we use for source:maxspeed=* in built-up areas when
there's no signage or road markings, just street
lights?http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
There was bit of discussion on this about a year
On 19 May 2012 01:22, SomeoneElse li...@mail.atownsend.org.uk wrote:
Given that the SW Coast Path relation has broken and had to be repaired
recently, I'd definitely add a new relation for the new bit. Perhaps it
makes sense to have a super relation for the whole SW path made up of
smaller
On 15 May 2012 23:32, rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com wrote:
As I am not a regular cyclist I must admit that I don't pay much attention
to these signs. So my question is do Local Authorities use the cycle and
foot signs (segregated or otherwise) and reserve the cycle sign for cases
where traffic
I believe these tags should contain something along the lines of 'uk',
'sco' etc. Not because I'd wish the prefix to show the region, but because
the designations are unique and need I believe the tags need to be unique.
So for an Area of Outstanding Beauty resulting from UK created legislation
And on another slight different tangent, I've noticed a lot of 'implied
surfaces' in both versions
eg *Please note*: omitting the
surfacehttp://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:surface
=* tag implies it *is unpaved*
What's the background for suggesting not providing a surface tag will
result in an
On 27 April 2012 15:00, Rob Nickerson rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com wrote:
* Public rights of way are recorded by the local council on the
Definitive map and statement. I am pulling all the details together and
will contact all England councils asking for access to the definitive
statements (and
Just in the process of adding some speed limits and went to the wiki to
clarify tagging.
UK speed limits commonly had a source:maxspeed tag, which contained UK, eg
source:maxspeed=UK:motorway.
Wiki page was recently changed and advised using GB eg
source:maxspeed=GB:motorway
The change notes
Hi all,
Randomly found myself checking the status of the 'Southwest Coast Path'
relation yesterday. Checked it using a few of the links found on the
Wiki United
Kingdom Long Distance
thanks for the fix. was logged into the IRC channel so was aware you were
fixing it.
Various available links given for checking or viewing the relation are not
working (at the moment). Is this a temporary problem, or is it linked to
the size of the relation? Is this a type of relation that should
Thanks, now feel a bit embarrassed, that was kind of obvious.
Jason
On 22 March 2012 22:37, SomeoneElse li...@mail.atownsend.org.uk wrote:
Jason Cunningham wrote:
Just had a look at the text file. Can anyone give me some advice on a way
to quickly find the locations given in file?
It's
I've just noticed an update to Bing imagery in the UK. Area I was looking
at was Torbay, Devon. [link http://binged.it/yq8NYY]. The updates images
are not available at full zoom for some reason, so by zooming all the way
in you can see the previous images.
Finding it hard to give a date to the
Good to see the data being released,
But I don't believe this proposed route should yet be added to OSM.
You'll regularly here the phrase map what's on the ground, but we all(?)
accept upcoming changes to what's on the ground can be mapped, and these
upcoming changes to the land are mapped
January 2012 09:15, Michael Collinson m...@ayeltd.biz wrote:
On 10/01/2012 19:34, Jason Cunningham wrote:
Can anyone provide more detailed info on the final stance of the of the
top decliners? Looking at one of the websites, some are Guy, Ed Avis, Andy
Street, Simon Ward, Paul Martin and ulfl
Can anyone provide more detailed info on the final stance of the of the top
decliners? Looking at one of the websites, some are Guy, Ed Avis, Andy
Street, Simon Ward, Paul Martin and ulfl.
I'd given a bit of though to mapping some of the areas that are to be
affected by the loss of 'Guy's data in
I try to add the rivers streams when I can, but it always takes a lot of
work.
Previously didn't agree with adding straight from OS Vectormap without
fixing all of it's peculiarities, and was unhappy with a lot of woodland
added. But, I coming round to thinking OSM is about incremental
I've had the same problem. A quick search came up with a website suggesting
changes are being implemented and notes that these changes have broke the OS
and Collins Maps.
http://alastaira.wordpress.com/2011/07/06/bing-maps-hybrid-imagery-style-generation-700-and-broken-labels/
Cheers,
Jason
On
I think using the word pitiful goes a bit far, but it got the intended
response.
As someone who spends little time reading through the mailing list I would
expected this important step to be very well publicised, and that does not
appear to be the case.
After reading a few of these emails, and
I'd also like to give my support to using a bot to add names to existing
roads.
My views on this have moved one way then the other over the last few months.
My main issues were based around
1 - It would reduce foot surveys which would mean missing out on POI's
(etc). Now feel this argument
On 9 June 2011 15:59, Derick Rethans o...@derickrethans.nl wrote:
I can. I've a friend in the Netherlands that I'd say is the typical
person that we want as mapper. He had mapped a lot of town Which then
got wiped out by the AND import, and he didn't bother with OSM for a
looong time.
Hi all,
Recently was made aware of Findmaps new free service that overlays a lot of
recently released UK data over maps.
http://free.findmaps.co.uk/
The available background maps are 'google maps' 'osm mapnik' and OS.
You then chose to see several different datasets sourced, for example, from
Hi Mike,
Can you provide us with a grid ref(s) for a location where the OS data is
wrong
Jason
On 9 March 2011 13:33, Michael Collinson m...@ayeltd.biz wrote:
At 13:29 09/03/2011, Chris Hill wrote:
On 09/03/11 11:57, Michael Collinson wrote:
At 12:32 10/02/2011, Andy Robinson
Well done to all those who finished off the road network in Southwark. I was
drawn into OSM when searching for a mapping solution in the far south of
Southwark, and it's brilliant to see how things have come along.
Tom, I've noticed you've added a large number of trees with species details
OS VectorMap District is an excellent source of data for features like
streams and woodland, but these layers of data tend to be a bit of a mess
and need to be stitched together as part of a method in importing into OSM.
eg Streams will end when they meet a bridge, then reappear the other side of
I've also got an interest in waterways and found it was possible to make
them leap out using OSM Inspector in the Geofabrik Tools website
http://tools.geofabrik.de/
This is the link I use to view water in South London
I'm worried we're assuming that the GLA have supplied us with a definitive
source of names.
When I had a first quick look at the names provided I was worried they were
mainly based around adjacent road names when many allotments have complex
names.
I can find a couple where the allotments society
Thanks for taking the time to do this.
Having read this a I've decided its about time I read up on licence issue! I
guess that the potential loss of a lot of data could be a reason for some
people voting against the changes
Jason
On 22 July 2010 10:34, TimSC mapp...@sheerman-chase.org.uk wrote:
I've support this 'project of the week' and I've already tested the idea in
a small area.
If you look around the web for critical views on Openstreetmap it does look
like the big chunks of missing streets puts people off.
A few opinions to add.
1. If you know how to convert the shapefile, use
On 6 June 2010 22:13, Phil James peerja...@googlemail.com wrote:
...I just feel that blatant, blind copying of OS data is
prostituting what I thought Open
Street Map was meant to be about./Rant
OK, I've got my tin hat on: standing by for incoming... ;-)
Phil.
I've got a lot of
On 7 June 2010 05:18, Jason Cunningham jamicu...@googlemail.com wrote:
The OS data is been treated as a replacement and hard work isnt being
deleted. The OS data is only being used to add data that is not currently
present, or to mark up blunders.
Oops, That should have read The OS data
1... What's the correct way of tagging a street as 'dangerous/suicidal' for
pedestrians in OSM? (Couldnt find an answer in the wiki)
Recently come across a road in my area (London, UK) that had no pavement and
which clearly should be avoided by pedestrains, but there were no
restrictions in place
I'm in London and using the method, linked to by Kevin, the VectorDistrict
looks very good. I also converted to kml to see how some some of the old
docks near sea level matched up in google earth and I was more than happy.
Overlaying Vector District and 'StreetView tiles' in Josm indicates the
Thanks Chris
Why have the OS done wrong in their prj file?. The test ogr2ogr I performed
using the OS prj files were only slightly off when compared to the prj files
you provided, and I didnt realise there was a problem until you provided the
a new prj file.
Now that Chris has provided us with
You might also consider using the shape files from OS VectorMap for the
water ways. This provides a ready-made, quite detailed outline of
waterways. I have supplied a few people with help doing this, so think I
should write up the process in the wiki.
Cheers, Chris
I was also going to
On 9 April 2010 18:40, Robert Scott li...@humanleg.org.uk wrote:
I'm not really sure about this whole attitude of OS data is not perfect,
so let's ignore the imperfect bits.
I agree, and I'd go further
The accuracy of OS data looks vastly superior to our data. Its always hard
to keep track
+1,
I think we should be printing off maps and using them during walks. Mark
whats there, or not, with a highlighter pen.
Havent used 1:25K maps yet, but I have compared them using google when a
similar issue arose a couple of days ago. Its clear a huge amount of changes
have happened and it
This discussion is concentrating on the merits of Google, but I am more
concerned about the involvement of UNICEF and their apparent decision to
encourage people to create mapping data for Google. I assume UNICEF has a
variety of 'mapping data' or POI that it would like to see freely available,
Can I also be sorry for being pedantic and point out an issue with the
license.
The OSMF decided to base themselves in the UK and is
A company limited by guarantee, registered in England and Wales. Company
Registration Number: 05912761
The Articles of Association [
I'd 'vote' for going ahead and using the roundel in the rendered mapnik map.
Use of the roundel is ubiquitous, and I cant believe that TFL would have a
problem with us advertising the location of tube stations. The roundel wont
be in the osm data set, its a rendering issue.
I am worried about the
I asked early on in the year for way to add a marker to a map when I wanted
to give a link to a map that that pointed out a location. The answer given
was to get a 'permalink' then put an 'm' before 'lat' and 'lon' in the url.
The edited link then brings up a map with a red diamond at the centre
I worried that the use of language might prove to be confusing and the the
buildings associated with a mine should have a separate tag.
1. Mineshaft may exist but we are going to be mapping the location mine
entrances, not the tunnel leading away from the mine entrance. In the future
someone may
2009/9/22 Morten Kjeldgaard m...@bioxray.au.dk
I am sorry, but I don't understand. Roman references an email from the
communications officer of Ramsar, and you are worried? You say the sites in
U.K. have probably been mapped by BOS? What kind of authority do you
represent to convince us that
I am worried there might be some copyright issues
The sites within the UK will probably have been mapped using the British
Ordnance Survey, and therefore should have copyright restrictions.
A quick internet search shows that data is available to download in the UK,
but with some conditions(?).
And I would be tempted to tag it
highway=footway
graffiti=yes
I am beginning to think cycleway gets added by eager cyclists far more often
than should really happen.
Jason Cunningham
user:jamicu
2009/9/10 Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 9:59 PM, James Livingston doc
the naptan:verified tag to yes if we are happy we've verified
it.
Discussion about merging and use of naptan now belong in the talk_gb group.
I've no problem with this advice changing, I've done this to hopefully
encourage editing and hopefully see some good advice appear.
Jason Cunningham
user:jamicu
Agree here. UK bridleways for instance should have foot=designated;
horse=designated; bicycle=designated as all three have equal right. It
would be a mistake to assume the horse rights are greater than
foot/bicycle; they are not.
I would similarly guess the shared foot/cycleways in Germany
in protecting and using these footpaths the
organisation or its members might be interested in the OSM project. As I
said at the beginning, does anyone know if there has been any contact? If
not its something I'd be willing to do since I've finally got a bit of spare
time this summer
Jason Cunningham
, and especially
after reading the discussions on paths/footways and woods/forests.
Jason Cunningham
user:Jamicu http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Jamicu
2009/8/10 Tom Chance t...@acrewoods.net
Dear all,
If the wood/forest and path/footway arguments have taught us one thing,
it's
You cant confidently split trees into two groups, although Ordnance Survey
have tried to.
I believe in the future there will be a desire to give areas of woodland a
tag that describes the type of woodland. But there is not rush and
Evergreen, Deciduous and Mixed seem like a safe start
Jason
Try the following website.
http://wtp2.appspot.com/wheresthepath.htm
It opens showing UK Ordinance Survey and Google maps side by side, but a
drop down list allows you to choose Mapnik only. You can then use site to
create a path. Click on the ? for instructions. Not to sure if I needed to
used
2009/4/16 Karl Newman siliconfi...@gmail.com
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 11:54 AM, Igor Brejc igor.br...@gmail.com wrote:
Lambertus wrote:
Igor Brejc wrote:
I think 5 sec interval when walking is quite enough - realistically
that's less than 7 m of distance between two points. The problem
Regarding The Bot. An excellent tool to to correct spelling errors (brigde
to bridge), but it must stay clear of tagging blunders.
A Bot can have no idea whether Landuse=Wood should be Landuse=Forest or
Natural=Wood, and therefore should stay clear, but could add something like
a note so local
Hi All
I've read through a bundle of licence emails, and there is one aspect that
worries me, which hopefully someone can clarify.
From my understanding (and I dont speak legalese), under the CCBYSA license
you can take OSM data, create a derived work and distribute it. But, you
had to let
I'm still a relative newbie, and am confused about how this could get added
to the Mapping Features.
I guess like a lot of people I joined the osm community then immediately
started mapping stuff in my local area. In the last few weeks I've tried to
learn a bit more by reading emails sent to the
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