Re: [OSM-talk] Hitting reset on talk-au

2011-07-13 Thread Michael Collinson
On 13/07/2011 02:10, David Murn wrote: On Tue, 2011-07-12 at 10:16 +0100, Dave F. wrote: On 11/07/2011 17:56, Mikel Maron wrote: Everyone This thread was on the topic of the atmosphere of the Australian community and talk-au, -Mikel on behalf of Talk Moderators Then, as a

[Talk-GB] OS OpenData and ODbL OK

2011-07-04 Thread Michael Collinson
, I will make some of the correspondence public so that you can see the exact question asked and the response. I would like to thank the Ordnance Survey for their kind consideration and the speed in which they were able to give a response. Regards, Michael Collinson License Working Group

Re: [Talk-GB] Copyright issues of checking details on other websites

2011-07-04 Thread Michael Collinson
On 04/07/2011 12:48, Donald Noble wrote: Sorry if this has been covered before, but I was just wondering what the copyright position is with checking details of, say a church or a shop, on their website and then adding those details to OSM? I would have thought that this was fair use of the

Re: [OSM-talk] License/CT issues: Let's not punish the world's disadvantaged, pls.

2011-06-24 Thread Michael Collinson
On 23/06/2011 17:35, John Smith wrote: On 24 June 2011 01:27, Robert Scottli...@humanleg.org.uk wrote: So - what, you're saying we should be doing the whole list-ten-thousand-names-in-the-corner thing? I don't understand - what's your point? My point is, why should other sites

Re: [OSM-talk] License/CT issues: Let's not punish the world's disadvantaged, pls.

2011-06-24 Thread Michael Collinson
On 24/06/2011 10:21, John Smith wrote: On 24 June 2011 18:06, Michael Collinsonm...@ayeltd.biz wrote: 4. At Your or the copyright owner’s option, OSMF agrees to attribute You or the copyright owner. A mechanism will be provided, currently a web page

Re: [OSM-talk] Pitiful proceedings - as usual

2011-06-21 Thread Michael Collinson
On 20/06/2011 19:18, Jason Cunningham wrote: I think using the word pitiful goes a bit far, but it got the intended response. As someone who spends little time reading through the mailing list I would expected this important step to be very well publicised, and that does not appear to be the

Re: [OSM-talk] Pitiful proceedings - as usual

2011-06-20 Thread Michael Collinson
On 20/06/2011 09:09, NopMap wrote: Hi! First of all: I am in favour of the licence change itself, I have agreed a long time ago and I was actually looking forward to phase 4 bringing forward some decisions. Nevertheless, the enabling of phase 4 (which likely may have happened yesterday or so)

Re: [Talk-GB] OS OpenData and accepting the new contributor terms

2011-06-18 Thread Michael Collinson
On 17/06/2011 14:50, Robert Whittaker (OSM) wrote: On 16 June 2011 17:50, Michael Collinsonm...@ayeltd.biz wrote: Here is as much information as I can give. It is not conclusive so I would summarise by saying that I *personally* (great emphasis!) have some contributions derived from OS

[Talk-GB] OS OpenData and accepting the new contributor terms

2011-06-16 Thread Michael Collinson
Here is as much information as I can give. It is not conclusive so I would summarise by saying that I *personally* (great emphasis!) have some contributions derived from OS StreetView data and have accepted the new terms without qualms. I explain my reasons below and what I intend to do. I

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] Statement from nearmap.com regarding submission of derived works from PhotoMaps to OpenStreetMap

2011-06-15 Thread Michael Collinson
+1 Much appreciated, both the statement itself and Ben's efforts to get it. Mike On 15/06/2011 03:36, Richard Weait wrote: On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 9:30 PM, Ben Lastben.l...@nearmap.com wrote: Hi all As promised, with apologies for the delay, here is the statement from NearMap regarding

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-legal-talk] Statement from nearmap.com regarding submission of derived works from PhotoMaps to OpenStreetMap

2011-06-15 Thread Michael Collinson
+1 Much appreciated, both the statement itself and Ben's efforts to get it. Mike On 15/06/2011 03:36, Richard Weait wrote: On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 9:30 PM, Ben Lastben.l...@nearmap.com wrote: Hi all As promised, with apologies for the delay, here is the statement from NearMap regarding

[OSM-talk] Announce: Beginning of Phase 4 of license change process

2011-06-14 Thread Michael Collinson
As per the implementation plan [1], we intend to move to phase 4 this Sunday 19th June or as soon after as is technically practical. This will mean that anyone who has explicitly declined the new contributor terms will no longer be able to edit, (unless they decide to accept). This currently

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Is mail address legal@... valid?

2011-06-05 Thread Michael Collinson
For me as a personal contributor, it looks great as is. It goes out with every extraction(?). You are making attribution credit reasonable to the medium (CC-BY-SA and CC-BY). You are crediting OpenStreetMap and properly identifying the CC-BY-SA license. You also have a link to

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Phase 4 and what it means

2011-06-05 Thread Michael Collinson
I am also very hesitant to have a specific date now and basically support Kai's concept. Mostly the date thing is caution, I would like to move to Phase 4 as soon as possible but think we can then take our time getting as much ODbL coverage as possible. It is also disparate situations. At one

Re: [OSM-talk] Mail sending rate?

2011-06-05 Thread Michael Collinson
Hi Brice, The first wave went out in batches over two days to about 14,000 contributors who have edited during the 12 months. The second wave going out now is to about 90,000 contributors who have made at least one edit but have not contributed over the last year. It started Friday UK time.

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Is mail address le...@osmfoundation.org valid?

2011-06-04 Thread Michael Collinson
Hi Jukka, Yes, it is still in use and we read everything and we we do try to respond. Have we missed something? Mike License Working Group On 04/06/2011 06:57, Jukka Rahkonen wrote: Hi, The page http://www.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Working_Groups#Licensing_Working_Group suggests that the

Re: [OSM-talk] CC-BY-SA still available?

2011-04-17 Thread Michael Collinson
On 17/04/2011 08:39, Andrew Harvey wrote: On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 9:37 PM, Michael Collinsonm...@ayeltd.biz wrote: ...From Sunday, we will run 5 weeks allowing folks who decline the ability to continue editing, i.e. CC-BY-SA only contributions. The objective is get the remaining 77,000 to

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] A legal question

2011-04-16 Thread Michael Collinson
Hi Eldad, This link http://www.osmfoundation.org/wiki/License may also help with general information. We are evolving it to help folks such as yourself, so if there is anything unclear or confusing, please do no hesitate to email me. Mike On 16/04/2011 15:55, Simon Biber wrote: Hi Eldad,

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap License Change Phase 3 Pre-Announcement

2011-04-14 Thread Michael Collinson
On 12/04/2011 22:59, SomeoneElse wrote: On 12/04/2011 19:56, Michael Collinson wrote: As part of the process, the legal wording of the Contributor Terms has been improved [3] on the basis of community feedback received and to make them more friendly to individual contributors. The human

Re: [OSM-talk] CC-BY-SA still available?

2011-04-14 Thread Michael Collinson
Hi Ed, On 13/04/2011 16:15, Ed Avis wrote: Michael Collinsonmikeat ayeltd.biz writes: If you are a user of OpenStreetMap data, this does not affect you. OpenStreetMap data continues to be licensed only under CC-BY-SA and this will continue until we reach a critical mass of acceptance of

[OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap License Change Phase 3 begins Sunday

2011-04-14 Thread Michael Collinson
2010 and have not taken part in our voluntary re-licensing program. Before being able to edit, you will have accept or decline new contributor terms. To give time to get the word out, this does not take effect until Sunday! Michael Collinson License Working Group

[OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap License Change Phase 3 Pre-Announcement

2011-04-12 Thread Michael Collinson
[3] on the basis of community feedback received and to make them more friendly to individual contributors. The human-readable version of the Contributor Terms is unchanged [4]. Michael Collinson License Working Group [1] More about Phase 3: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] CT, time period for reply to a new license change (active contributor)

2011-04-07 Thread Michael Collinson
On 28/03/2011 00:52, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: Sorry that I come quite late with this, it might be too late, and it was bothering me occasionally already for some months: if we really decided in the future to change the license, isn't 3 weeks a little short for such an important issue? I am

[OSM-legal-talk] Someone ought to do something ... dealing with violations of OSM's geodata license

2011-03-20 Thread Michael Collinson
This is a general question for discussion from the License Working Group. I may also ask on the main list as the constituency is different. There are now 1 to 2 reports every month of folks violating OSM's license by using OSM's data or maps without any or without adequate CC-BY-SA

[OSM-talk] A reliable process for handling OSM license violations

2011-03-20 Thread Michael Collinson
There are now at least 1 to 2 reports every month of folks not giving us proper CC-BY-SA attribution. These are mostly websites but include poster advertising, a TV advertisement and a TV show. We need a reliable process for dealing with these. Currently, the License Working Group has been

Re: [Talk-GB] Incorrect use of OS VectorMap District when mapping?

2011-03-09 Thread Michael Collinson
At 12:32 10/02/2011, Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) wrote: Henry Gomersall [mailto:h...@cantab.net] wrote: Sent: 10 February 2011 11:07 AM To: Peter Miller Cc: Talk GB Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Incorrect use of OS VectorMap District when mapping? On Thu, 2011-02-10 at 10:30 +, Peter Miller

Re: [Talk-GB] Incorrect use of OS VectorMap District when mapping?

2011-03-09 Thread Michael Collinson
At 13:29 09/03/2011, Chris Hill wrote: On 09/03/11 11:57, Michael Collinson wrote: At 12:32 10/02/2011, Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) wrote: Henry Gomersall [mailto:h...@cantab.net] wrote: Sent: 10 February 2011 11:07 AM To: Peter Miller Cc: Talk GB Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Incorrect use

Re: [Talk-GB] Incorrect use of OS VectorMap District when mapping?

2011-03-09 Thread Michael Collinson
Jason, Yes, I'll try to do this over the weekend. Give me an off-line poke if I forget. Mike At 14:45 09/03/2011, Jason Cunningham wrote: Hi Mike, Can you provide us with a grid ref(s) for a location where the OS data is wrong Jason On 9 March 2011 13:33, Michael Collinson mailto:m

[OSM-talk] State of the Map U.S. Conference Report by Directions Magazine

2010-08-19 Thread Michael Collinson
http://www.directionsmag.com/article.php?article_id=3573 Congratulations to the organisers, speakers and everyone involved. Mike ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OSM-legal-talk] Contributor terms (was : decision removing data:

2010-08-13 Thread Michael Collinson
At 01:14 13/08/2010, Liz wrote: On Thu, 12 Aug 2010, Mike Collinson wrote: At 02:58 PM 12/08/2010, Robert Whittaker (OSM) wrote: PS: I'd be interested to know if the current CTs have had any legal review from OSMF's lawyers... Yes. Our initial desire was to have something very short, more

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] The use of OSM images in a promotional video

2010-08-09 Thread Michael Collinson
Hi Elliot, For me, yes and yes but. I mapped most of central Sydney myself originally and am delighted. Your use clearly indicates two separate layers which the community says is OK, you don't need to share alike the 3D model ... though perhaps you can consider it? As for the credits,

[OSM-legal-talk] (Not) Removing data

2010-08-09 Thread Michael Collinson
I have been away from the grand fray for several weeks due to personal matters and have been catching up with threads on this list. One question, I think from Liz, was who decided to remove data. That got me thinking as there was never any explicit decision point. Therefore I have a question

Re: [OSM-talk] Timeout uploading GPX traces

2010-07-30 Thread Michael Collinson
At 09:41 30/07/2010, Tom Hughes wrote: On 30/07/10 08:11, Ed Avis wrote: When a GPX trace file is larger than 100 kilobytes or so, the uploader web page times out in the browser and the file isn't uploaded. I've got a backlog of several long GPX traces to upload - is there some other way to

Re: [OSM-talk] Timeout uploading GPX traces

2010-07-30 Thread Michael Collinson
At 11:00 30/07/2010, Ed Avis wrote: Michael Collinson mike at ayeltd.biz writes: When a GPX trace file is larger than 100 kilobytes or so, the uploader web page times out in the browser As a possible short-term fix, try uploading an individual file in .zip format. This used to work and I

Re: [OSM-talk] Es Official! El Songa SOTM Mundial!

2010-07-02 Thread Michael Collinson
At 12:24 02/07/2010, Liz wrote: On Fri, 2 Jul 2010, Mike Collinson wrote: (c) 2010 Producciones Shi-Shi Bai S.A. oh no, copyright songs for SOTM? will you lot have to pay to sing them? ... and with my exquisite voice, I am expecting to make huge sums with people paying me NOT to sing them.

Re: [OSM-talk] Question that will not be asked

2009-12-09 Thread Michael Collinson
At 10:29 09/12/2009, Pieren wrote: ... But the OSMF never tries to reach those who are not reading the talk-lists or watching the forums. How many times have we seen a call for a simple question about the new license on the diary or on the main site page or on the header on all wiki pages ? Never.

Re: [OSM-talk] Seoul

2009-09-08 Thread Michael Collinson
At 12:40 08/09/2009, Andrew Errington wrote: By the way, I just requested the creation of a talk-ko mailing list, but nothing's happening there yet (only a handful of mappers here!). Hopefully this sort of thing can be brought up and solved. Subscribe to talk-ko at

Re: [OSM-talk] source=(survey, yahoo, gps...)

2009-09-08 Thread Michael Collinson
At 11:40 08/09/2009, Valent Turkovic wrote: Do you use source tag? Why and how, please explain? I read the wiki page but I don't see many people use it and I'm wondering why. I try to put it on everything I map. It shows fellow mappers how accurate my contribution is. They can make a more

Re: [Talk-GB] Cameras?

2008-09-08 Thread Michael Collinson
My specs were about the same as yours though I had to drop the Optical viewfinder - they are now rare at the lower end. For brand new cameras, I came up with lower cameras in the Canon range (IXUS range and/or A450 or some such purely from memory) and in the Nikon LX range. Sony Cybershots

Re: [OSM-talk] cycle transit tagging (also applies to Motorail)

2008-09-04 Thread Michael Collinson
As a cycleway tag already exists and is presumably (?) used by cycle route planners, how about extending it with a 'transit' or similar value and then adding that to road, rail ways and ferry route ways? Just a thought, Mike At 12:27 PM 9/4/2008, Simon Hewison wrote: There's a few cycle

Re: [OSM-talk] Tag:highway=cycleway inconsistency

2008-07-03 Thread Michael Collinson
At 02:20 PM 7/3/2008, Florian Lohoff wrote: the wiki page for Tag:highway=cycleway has some inconsistencys. On the right it says implies: ... foot=yes ... In the examples on the lower part of the page it says highway=cycleway + foot=yes. So either the example suggests setting an obsolete tag or

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagwatch for europe

2008-07-03 Thread Michael Collinson
Etric, Thank you very much for this and continuing to work on it. It may be that working in UNIX Operating System debugging for a few years has turned my brain peculiar, but I certainly find it fascinating browsing through the tags folks have been using.

Re: [OSM-talk] Tag:highway=cycleway inconsistency

2008-07-03 Thread Michael Collinson
At 04:53 PM 7/3/2008, Andy Allan wrote: On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 3:31 PM, Michael Collinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I certainly agree that the default for foot access should be one or the other for highway=cycleway. My own preference is for default foot=yes. I disagree - I think

Re: [OSM-talk] description tag and opinions

2008-06-27 Thread Michael Collinson
At 03:51 PM 6/27/2008, Nick Whitelegg wrote: What's the current thinking in general on what we should do with the description tag? From what I gather the consensus is generally to avoid anything which might be seen as an opinion, so far example serves Dunbridge Ales might be seen as valid whilst

Re: [OSM-talk] Walking routes and OSM (again)

2008-06-27 Thread Michael Collinson
At 03:57 PM 6/27/2008, Nick Whitelegg wrote: Hello everyone, Richard's comments the other day have got me strongly interested in implementing tightly-bound (to OSM ways) walking routes in Freemap. There are a couple of UI ways in which this could be implemented: a) Get the user to click each way

Re: [OSM-talk] Google Map Maker

2008-06-25 Thread Michael Collinson
[Off original topic!] Google certainly do access the information sent to gmail accounts in order to deliver targeted ads in the account holders web email browser. So the original post had me rushing to read the fine print. I had to read it pretty carefully but access is limited to the

Re: [OSM-talk] Trails (paths) with no individual names

2008-06-25 Thread Michael Collinson
If there is clearly a main trail and the rest are feeders (i.e. how to get on/off the trail) or stubs to viewpoints or other features, then yes I would just name the main trail. I think that is what your example is showing, even though it is actually quite short through a local suburb. As a

Re: [OSM-talk] Rendering of tracktype

2008-06-13 Thread Michael Collinson
At 09:50 AM 6/13/2008, Sven Geggus wrote: spaetz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I use highway=track for paved roads sometime. In Switzerland these agricultural roads are sometimes of very high quality. Same in Germany An alternative is to use highway=service, surface=paved since they are access

Re: [OSM-talk] Front page

2008-06-13 Thread Michael Collinson
At 01:57 PM 6/13/2008, spaetz wrote: Would it be worth moving the introduction, links, wiki, shop, conference advert, and donation buttons from the front page to an about tab in the view/edit/export.. tab strip? The left-hand edge of the main page seems to be getting quite long, so

[OSM-talk] OSM in the today's Financial Times

2008-05-22 Thread Michael Collinson
Burn your Anarcho-syndicalist membership card. Sell Google. Buy OSM. Today's Financial Times European edition, page 11, carries a 3/4 page article Way to go? Mapping looks to be the web's next big thing with this paragraph. At one end of the spectrum are people like Steve Coast, a British

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenPlantMap

2008-05-19 Thread Michael Collinson
At 10:22 AM 5/17/2008, Steve Hill wrote: Peter Miller wrote: I agree. I think we need to adopt a Wikipedia concept of 'notability'. For example... A wood is notable, a large established solitary tree in a park might be notable, but a nettle is not. Is a rare plant notable? I would suggest

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-GB] Cycling between capitals

2008-05-19 Thread Michael Collinson
Whoops, Andy Allan. At 04:20 PM 5/17/2008, OJ W wrote: Would it be worth including the cycle map as a layer on the front-page map? +1 if Andy Armstrong is amenable. It puts OSM into an area where there is just no competition at all. And it is applicable outside the UK. Mike

Re: [OSM-talk] contours on main map

2008-05-08 Thread Michael Collinson
At 04:32 AM 5/8/2008, Robin Paulson wrote: is there any intention to include contours on the main map at any point? would it be possible to have them as a static layer (i.e. they not be re-rendered every week like the mapnik images, to save processing time), with a transparent background?

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging of jogging tracks

2008-05-08 Thread Michael Collinson
At 02:23 PM 5/8/2008, Inge Wallin wrote: How should I tag a track in the woods that are designated for exercise like walking or jogging? I tried to read the page Map_Features in the wiki, but didn't really get much help. All the values for the 'sport' key are just applied to nodes and areas, not

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Attribution

2008-04-07 Thread Michael Collinson
At 02:55 PM 4/7/2008, Michael Collinson wrote: At 02:19 PM 4/7/2008, 80n wrote: Up to now there has not been any official guidance on how to comply with the attribution clause of our CC-BY-SA license. This means that people either try to do something that they hope is acceptable or they do

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapping Mottram and Tintwistle proposed bypass

2008-04-02 Thread Michael Collinson
At 09:01 AM 4/2/2008, Stephen Wing wrote: On 01/04/2008, Norbert Hoffmann mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, so how do I tag a section of highway that is going to be grubbed up and returned to nature (which is happening for short sections of the A14 at Haughley Bends)?

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] import of dataset for new zealand

2008-03-18 Thread Michael Collinson
At 12:48 PM 3/18/2008, 80n wrote: On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 10:57 AM, Andy Robinson (blackadder) mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Richard Fairhurst wrote: Sent: 18 March 2008 10:54 AM To: mailto:legal-talk@openstreetmap.orglegal-talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-legal-talk]

Re: [OSM-talk] Contacting new users

2008-03-13 Thread Michael Collinson
At 12:09 PM 3/13/2008, Andy Robinson (blackadder) wrote: ... However it is not easy to contact new users if they wish to remain in the background. We could however help the project without compromising privacy if we obtained a little more information at signup (www) and then provided those new

Re: [OSM-talk] oneway except bicyckes

2008-03-12 Thread Michael Collinson
At 10:51 AM 3/12/2008, Franc Carter wrote: What's the best way to tag a piece of road that is oneway except for bicycles ? oneway=yes cycleway=opposite OR if there is a marked lane for bicycles: oneway=yes cycleway=opposite_lane http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Map_Features#Cycleway

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Voting - skyhook

2008-03-07 Thread Michael Collinson
At 11:05 AM 3/7/2008, Hakan Tandogan wrote: On Fri, March 7, 2008 10:41, Andy Robinson \(blackadder\) wrote: I think the point was to have a little fun and show that the process of creating tags needn't be so formal and boring. If people just posted their cool tag usage, rather than the

Re: [OSM-talk] High Visibility Vests - Printed OSM

2008-02-28 Thread Michael Collinson
What are the sort of volume points that cause a drop in price? May be OSMF could have some Medium and Large made to sell at SOTM as a fund-raiser. Mike At 11:23 AM 2/28/2008, Andy Robinson \(blackadder\) wrote: Has anyone had any high visibility vests printed/available before? I'm thinking of

Re: [OSM-talk] Parking symbols: YUCK!

2008-02-25 Thread Michael Collinson
At 10:19 AM 2/25/2008, graham wrote: Robert (Jamie) Munro wrote: I expect that someone with PostGIS knowledge can construct a query to quickly identify all the parking nodes inside parking areas and produce a list. I'm sure that many of us could write a perl or python script to take

Re: [OSM-talk] Straw Poll - Disk space used by OSM photos/audio

2008-02-14 Thread Michael Collinson
At 11:04 AM 2/14/2008, Robert Vollmert wrote: Hello, On Feb 13, 2008 9:41 AM, Gregory [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe (I possibly thought this when I started) so nobody knows where I live/start, but I could easily not worry about that. On Feb 13, 2008, at 19:14, Karl Newman wrote: Yeah,

Re: [OSM-talk] Straw Poll - Disk space used by OSM photos/audio

2008-02-12 Thread Michael Collinson
At 11:29 PM 2/10/2008, Andy Robinson wrote: On 10/02/2008, Thomas Walraet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andy Robinson wrote: I started taking photos in March 2006. Since then I've taken 14,000 photos taking up 10GB of space. Wow... When I take photos of street names, I set my camera

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] Progressing OSM to a new dataLicence regime

2008-02-05 Thread Michael Collinson
At 09:35 AM 2/5/2008, Rob Myers wrote: Robert (Jamie) Munro wrote: I'm still think that the foundation owns everyone's data already. When you sign up, it says: By creating an account, you agree that all work uploaded to openstreetmap.org and all data created by use of any tools which

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Rendering wish value suburb

2008-02-05 Thread Michael Collinson
At 03:23 PM 2/5/2008, Artem Pavlenko wrote: Begin forwarded message: From: Michael Galonska mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 31 January 2008 19:27:14 GMT To: Artem Pavlenko mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Rendering wish value suburb Hello Artem, Would it

Re: [OSM-talk] Bridges / viaducts for railways

2008-01-29 Thread Michael Collinson
At 06:57 PM 1/28/2008, Tom Chance wrote: Hello, I'm a bit confused about these tags: railway=viaduct bridge=yes cutting=yes embankment=yes I assume that 'viaduct' covers these sort of elevated rail lines so that bridges are just for, well, bridges over other ways:

Re: [OSM-talk] Move tagging RfCs/voting to extra list?

2008-01-29 Thread Michael Collinson
At 12:59 AM 1/29/2008, Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, I wrote the following two weeks ago because I felt that the talk list was a bit flooded by administrative voting ends, voting opens, comments requested etc. messages: would it make sense to create a new mailing list - say [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [OSM-talk] golf courses?

2008-01-25 Thread Michael Collinson
At 01:16 AM 1/25/2008, Alex Mauer wrote: The map features page lists both leisure=golf_course and sport=golf. Can we please pick one of these and remove the other? Often synonymous yes; always synonymous no. I find it useful to separately tag the place and use sport=xxx to mean pertaining to

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapping canals

2008-01-24 Thread Michael Collinson
At 03:34 PM 1/24/2008, Jo wrote: Dermot McNally wrote: My favourite suggestion so far is that a second key be introduced - either for the original measurement (my favourite, since it retains the traditional meaning of the existing key) or for the normalised equivalent. This is what I was

Re: [OSM-talk] RFC - lake

2008-01-11 Thread Michael Collinson
At 03:46 AM 1/11/2008, Robin Paulson wrote: is there any reason why this proposal has so many opposers? http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/Lake it seems a logical one to me, we need to differentiate between lakes and rivers, canals, etc. Yes, probably logical if we

Re: [OSM-talk] administrative boundaries and is_in

2008-01-10 Thread Michael Collinson
At 09:44 PM 1/9/2008, Robin Paulson wrote: can someone explain a few things about the way boundaries work, and their relation to the is_in key? as far as i can tell, when a location (say the suburb of balham, in london) is added to the map, the is_in tag needs to be set, multiple times. in this

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] The OSM licence: where we are, where we're going

2008-01-09 Thread Michael Collinson
At 12:33 PM 1/9/2008, Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, Although the recent Artistic License case has taken a different view: http://lawandlifesiliconvalley.blogspot.com/2007/08/new-open-source- legal-decision-jacobsen.html Hm, being neither lawyer nor native speaker of English nor American citizen

Re: [OSM-talk] [EMAIL PROTECTED] memory issues ?

2008-01-04 Thread Michael Collinson
Glad to hear that you've resolved this - I can own up now :-) . Central Sydney was, BTW, my test bed to produce a very detailed visual pleasing map useful for tourists so a good test case. Mike Stockholm At 09:57 AM 1/4/2008, Franc Carter wrote: Just so it's 'recorded somewhere' ;-) I

Re: [OSM-talk] My Openstreetmap talk at 24C3

2008-01-03 Thread Michael Collinson
At 12:57 PM 1/3/2008, Frederik Ramm wrote: The talk went ok, I got a lot of follow-up questions and believe I have recruited a number of soon-to-be addicts. The room was quite full even though in the auditorium next door they had the Sex 2.0 talk which was announced as being about achieving a

Re: [Talk-GB] UK administrative subdivisions

2007-12-03 Thread Michael Collinson
At 04:41 PM 12/3/2007, Mark Williams wrote: A set of county_or_other_area.poly files might be handy, also this might be useful to work on to define the boundaries in the map, as these are very awkward to map otherwise. And slightly at a tangent, might not these be useful for systematically

Re: [Talk-GB] [Fwd: Re: Speed limits]

2007-09-21 Thread Michael Collinson
At 11:13 AM 9/21/2007, Dave Stubbs wrote: I'm definitely against this idea! For the record, I have no great urge to go metric ourselves; I just want things to work, and perceive a point of failure in this. I realise that programmers can easily add a comversion routine - but why cause the

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