Re: [OSM-talk] Coordinates in OSM. Really annoying

On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 9:42 AM, Dave F wrote: > We're *all* volunteers giving our valuable time to OSM. It could be more > efficiently spent if fixable variations such as this didn't occur. When I > add data I'm, quite rightly, expected to do it to a certain

Re: [OSM-talk] Coordinates in OSM. Really annoying

.uk/disclaimer/disclaimer.aspx> *From:* Dave F <davefoxfa...@btinternet.com> *Sent:* 24 April 2017 11:31:24 *To:* OSM Talk *Subject:* Re: [OSM-talk] Coordinates in OSM. Really annoying Hi I'm unsure why go on about anyone b

Re: [OSM-talk] Coordinates in OSM. Really annoying

On lørdag 22. april 2017 12.34.24 CEST Viet Nguyen wrote: > Not to mention [longitude, latitude] vs [latitude, longitude] issue. Mandatory read: http://www.macwright.org/lonlat/ (and http:// www.macwright.org/2016/07/15/longitude-latitude-is-the-right-way.html ) Been there, done that, get used

Re: [OSM-talk] Coordinates in OSM. Really annoying

ttp://www.solent.ac.uk/disclaimer/disclaimer.aspx> From: Dave F <davefoxfa...@btinternet.com> Sent: 24 April 2017 11:31:24 To: OSM Talk Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Coordinates in OSM. Really annoying Hi I'm unsure why go on about anyone being "thrown out".

Re: [OSM-talk] Coordinates in OSM. Really annoying

Hi I'm unsure why go on about anyone being "thrown out". I'm unsure why doing it inconsistently in the past in 'legacy' code is any reason for not trying to sort it out for the future. Programmers can reformat to any standard* of their desire /within/ their own program. It can't be hard to

Re: [OSM-talk] Coordinates in OSM. Really annoying

Hi, Is there /really/ any need for *six* coordinate formats? It's hard enough to learn a new process without basics like this tripping you up. There is nobody who is trusted enough to set an universal standard: https://xkcd.com/927/ Basically, there is an ISO standard

Re: [Talk-GB] [OSM-talk] Coordinates in OSM. Really annoying

Hi Dan, Yes I think it started on talk and has popped up here quite late on in the discussion. Jerry On 22 April 2017 at 20:01, Dan S wrote: > Hi > > Did I miss some emails, or did someone redirect this thread to a > different mailing list half-way through? I don't

Re: [Talk-GB] [OSM-talk] Coordinates in OSM. Really annoying

Apologies Dan Someone replied direct to me, I then typed wrong address when replying to the list. As you probably worked out, the previous posts are in OSM-Talk DaveF On 22/04/2017 20:01, Dan S wrote: Hi Did I miss some emails, or did someone redirect this thread to a different mailing

Re: [OSM-talk] Coordinates in OSM. Really annoying

Not to mention [longitude, latitude] vs [latitude, longitude] issue. I'm working on a web app using Leaflet library and had spent hours debugging my own code trying to figure out why data points didn't show up or showed up in the wrong continent. As it turned out Leaflet expects [x, y]

Re: [OSM-talk] Coordinates in OSM. Really annoying

On the left side, go figure! Or is that the right side? 2017-04-22 20:21 GMT+02:00 Martin Koppenhoefer : > > > sent from a phone > > > On 22. Apr 2017, at 14:57, Oleksiy Muzalyev > wrote: > > > > But such a situation is the same everywhere. >

Re: [Talk-GB] [OSM-talk] Coordinates in OSM. Really annoying

Hi Did I miss some emails, or did someone redirect this thread to a different mailing list half-way through? I don't see what the latter would be for, in this case, so I'm wondering if I'm losing emails...! Thanks Dan 2017-04-22 16:23 GMT+01:00 Dave F : > In this

Re: [OSM-talk] Coordinates in OSM. Really annoying

sent from a phone > On 22. Apr 2017, at 14:57, Oleksiy Muzalyev > wrote: > > But such a situation is the same everywhere. +1, there are even countries driving on the other side of the road than most of the others, willingly paying an extra for having

Re: [Talk-GB] [OSM-talk] Coordinates in OSM. Really annoying

Looks like I fell fowl of another annoying 'standard' ... just how replies to an email list are handled! If only people would use the same standard everywhere ;) On 22/04/17 16:23, Dave F wrote: > In this context I'm unsure what you mean by "interface standards" Working from the bottom ...

Re: [Talk-GB] [OSM-talk] Coordinates in OSM. Really annoying

In this context I'm unsure what you mean by "interface standards" On 22/04/2017 15:45, Lester Caine wrote: On 22/04/17 15:28, Dave F wrote: As they're parameters, the format can be standardised for the end user & any programme should be able to sort out syntax behind the scenes. Totally agree

Re: [OSM-talk] Coordinates in OSM. Really annoying

As they're parameters, the format can be standardised for the end user & any programme should be able to sort out syntax behind the scenes. On 22/04/2017 15:15, Lester Caine wrote: On 22/04/17 14:19, Dave F wrote: It's to provide the numerous coordinates format for each of the programs.

Re: [OSM-talk] Coordinates in OSM. Really annoying

On 22/04/17 14:19, Dave F wrote: > It's to provide the numerous coordinates format for each of the > programs. Select a boundary box (Alt+LButton mouse drag) & you get: > > https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C-BP_QdWsAEN-Ac.jpg > > I can't understand the need for the variations in syntax Not worked

Re: [OSM-talk] Coordinates in OSM. Really annoying

It's to provide the numerous coordinates format for each of the programs. Select a boundary box (Alt+LButton mouse drag) & you get: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C-BP_QdWsAEN-Ac.jpg I can't understand the need for the variations in syntax DaveF On 21/04/2017 17:28, Lester Caine wrote: On

Re: [OSM-talk] Coordinates in OSM. Really annoying

Oh, agree OSM isn't unique, but considering it's a geocoded project, it's just embarrassing that coordinates can't be coordinated. DaveF On 22/04/2017 13:57, Oleksiy Muzalyev wrote: On 21.04.17 17:28, Dave F wrote: Hi This is one of my OSM bugbears: http://osm.duschmarke.de/bbox.html Is

Re: [OSM-talk] Coordinates in OSM. Really annoying

On 21.04.17 17:28, Dave F wrote: Hi This is one of my OSM bugbears: http://osm.duschmarke.de/bbox.html Is there /really/ any need for *six* coordinate formats? It's hard enough to learn a new process without basics like this tripping you up. Is there any reason why the developers of these

Re: [OSM-talk] Coordinates in OSM. Really annoying

On 21/04/17 15:34, Max wrote: > On 2017년 04월 21일 16:28, Dave F wrote: >> This is one of my OSM bugbears: http://osm.duschmarke.de/bbox.html > > Can't use this tool, because alt + mouse click moves the whole window in > my desktop environment. Shift/Mouse works to zoom but no idea what the tool

Re: [OSM-talk] Coordinates in OSM. Really annoying

Looks a purely grammar problem to me. On 21/04/2017 15:41, James wrote: Could be for precision: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decimal_degrees#Precision On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 10:28 AM, Dave F > wrote: Hi This is one

Re: [OSM-talk] Coordinates in OSM. Really annoying

Could be for precision: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decimal_degrees#Precision On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 10:28 AM, Dave F wrote: > Hi > > This is one of my OSM bugbears: http://osm.duschmarke.de/bbox.html > > Is there /really/ any need for *six* coordinate formats?

Re: [OSM-talk] Coordinates in OSM. Really annoying

On 2017년 04월 21일 16:28, Dave F wrote: This is one of my OSM bugbears: http://osm.duschmarke.de/bbox.html Can't use this tool, because alt + mouse click moves the whole window in my desktop environment. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

[OSM-talk] Coordinates in OSM. Really annoying

Hi This is one of my OSM bugbears: http://osm.duschmarke.de/bbox.html Is there /really/ any need for *six* coordinate formats? It's hard enough to learn a new process without basics like this tripping you up. Is there any reason why the developers of these programs can't talk to each other &