Re: [OSM-talk] Country-specific defaults/values (was: R e: Proliferation of path vs. footway)

2009-08-14 Thread Jukka Rahkonen
Roy Wallace waldo00 at gmail.com writes: On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 10:10 PM, Tobias Knerrosm at tobias-knerr.de wrote: David Earl wrote: If cycleway does mean something different in Germany than it means in UK, why do we try to use the same tag/value in the first place? Why don't

Re: [OSM-talk] Country-specific defaults/values (was: Re: Proliferation of path vs. footway)

2009-08-14 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/8/14 Jukka Rahkonen jukka.rahko...@mmmtike.fi: First of all we need to get rid of all the fuzzy traffic signs broadcasted all over the world, like this http://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiedosto:Py%C3%B6r%C3%A4tie_422.svg and this

[OSM-talk] Country-specific defaults/values (was: Re: Proliferation of path vs. footway)

2009-08-13 Thread Tobias Knerr
David Earl wrote: My feeling is that what we are missing is largely country-specific defaults. Or rather we have failed to recognise this in the documentation, but it is what pretty much everyone is doing in practice already, and that's got a lot going for it. If cycleway does mean

Re: [OSM-talk] Country-specific defaults/values (was: Re: Proliferation of path vs. footway)

2009-08-13 Thread Richard Mann
Neither is acceptable. How long do you want style-sheets to get? Plus - what languages are all these tags going to be documented in? How many languages do I have to read to make sense of them all? Somehow we need to get to a common-enough definition that we can all live with. Which is not to

Re: [OSM-talk] Country-specific defaults/values

2009-08-13 Thread Tobias Knerr
Richard Mann wrote: Neither is acceptable. How long do you want style-sheets to get? A list of values mapped to a certain style doesn't strike me as particularly complicated to implement. Especially as these lists can be compiled with the help of national communities. I assume if you set up a

Re: [OSM-talk] Country-specific defaults/values (was: Re: Proliferation of path vs. footway)

2009-08-13 Thread Roy Wallace
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 10:10 PM, Tobias Knerro...@tobias-knerr.de wrote: David Earl wrote: If cycleway does mean something different in Germany than it means in UK, why do we try to use the same tag/value in the first place? Why don't we use, e.g., Radweg for Germany? (Or differentiate with

Re: [OSM-talk] Country-specific defaults/values (was: Re: Proliferation of path vs. footway)

2009-08-13 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/8/13 Richard Mann richard.mann.westoxf...@googlemail.com: Neither is acceptable. How long do you want style-sheets to get? Plus - what languages are all these tags going to be documented in? How many languages do I have to read to make sense of them all? Somehow we need to get to a

Re: [OSM-talk] Country-specific defaults/values

2009-08-13 Thread Tobias Knerr
Roy Wallace wrote: Differentiate with prefixes? Messy... If cycleway means A in Germany and B somewhere else, then cycleway is not a good tag. Instead, we should explicitly tag A where it applies and tag B where it applies. This would mean to totally get away from the concept of highway