Re: [OSM-talk] Crowdfunding for OpenStreetMap in Bénin : 275km² high resolution satellite imagery for Cotonou by 1-May 2016!

2016-04-28 Thread nicolas chavent
Hi Christoph, Frederik and all, Thanks Christoph and Frederik for your two emails, two points related to Benin : Christoph, thanks for setting up that hosting and serving of 100% opendata resources that we will be using in compliment of the freshly purchased imagery over Cotonou for data

Re: [OSM-talk] Crowdfunding for OpenStreetMap in Bénin : 275km² high resolution satellite imagery for Cotonou by 1-May 2016!

2016-04-28 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 04/28/16 08:55, Greg Morgan wrote: > The problem I have with both Christoph and Frederick statements from > Germany are that the comments have a feeling of not invented here and > more imperialism. The main problem I have with armchair mapping is not "people map an area without going

Re: [OSM-talk] Crowdfunding for OpenStreetMap in Bénin : 275km² high resolution satellite imagery for Cotonou by 1-May 2016!

2016-04-28 Thread Christoph Hormann
On Thursday 28 April 2016, Greg Morgan wrote: > > The problem I have with both Christoph and Frederick statements from > Germany are that the comments have a feeling of not invented here and > more imperialism. I think you are barking up the wrong tree here. Most of my mapping in OSM is in

Re: [OSM-talk] Crowdfunding for OpenStreetMap in Bénin : 275km² high resolution satellite imagery for Cotonou by 1-May 2016!

2016-04-28 Thread nicolas chavent
Hi Greg and all, Greg, we are 100% in agreement (your text is below). OSM Benin folks know their country, their OSM stuffs, their needs and the support of the collective ProjetEOF did crowdsource (with success from yesterda) for high res imagery over Cotonou This allow to open a dialogue with

Re: [OSM-talk] Crowdfunding for OpenStreetMap in Bénin : 275km² high resolution satellite imagery for Cotonou by 1-May 2016!

2016-04-28 Thread Greg Morgan
On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 10:52 AM, Simon Poole wrote: > > I'm slightly taken back by the number of people wanting to jump in and > make decisions for a local community on a topic that has little bearing > outside of their region. ... > > > Simon Simon, This is one of the most

Re: [OSM-talk] Crowdfunding for OpenStreetMap in Bénin : 275km² high resolution satellite imagery for Cotonou by 1-May 2016!

2016-04-26 Thread Enock Seth Nyamador
Greetings, Glad to see many views and comments coming up on this topic. Best, - Enock ​ OSMGhana ​ | ​ ​ UMaT, Tarkwa enockseth.github.io On Tue, Apr 26, 2016 at 11:50 AM, nicolas chavent wrote: > Hi John, > > There is a local OSM group active in Benin since mid

Re: [OSM-talk] Crowdfunding for OpenStreetMap in Bénin : 275km² high resolution satellite imagery for Cotonou by 1-May 2016!

2016-04-26 Thread nicolas chavent
Hi John, There is a local OSM group active in Benin since mid 2013, This group is skilled they got trained via (capacity building missions run by the collective Projet EOF) and had been always self training and growing their skills, growing their community and training Academic, Benin Red Cross

Re: [OSM-talk] Crowdfunding for OpenStreetMap in Bénin : 275km² high resolution satellite imagery for Cotonou by 1-May 2016!

2016-04-25 Thread john whelan
>John, Ulule does not charge 40%, the fees reasonably amount to 7 or 8%, that's a notable difference. If I donate $100 to a charity the net cost to me is $60 and $100 is more or less available at the end. If I donate $60 to the crowdsourcing then $55 arrives at the end. So if we can get

Re: [OSM-talk] Crowdfunding for OpenStreetMap in Bénin : 275km² high resolution satellite imagery for Cotonou by 1-May 2016!

2016-04-25 Thread nicolas chavent
Hi there, Wow! None of the folks from the Association OSM Bénin nor those from the collective ProjetEOF who worked with the Benin mappers on this crowdfunding for imagery on 275km2 of Cotonou would have expected that email traffic. Great to see this talk on the talk list! Great also to read that

Re: [OSM-talk] Crowdfunding for OpenStreetMap in Bénin : 275km² high resolution satellite imagery for Cotonou by 1-May 2016!

2016-04-25 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > Il giorno 25 apr 2016, alle ore 20:41, Christoph Hormann > ha scritto: > > what is most readily available and most convenient for them and there > is little incentive in providing alternatives just because they are > open if they don't provide

Re: [OSM-talk] Crowdfunding for OpenStreetMap in Bénin : 275km² high resolution satellite imagery for Cotonou by 1-May 2016!

2016-04-25 Thread Simon Poole
Am 25.04.2016 um 20:41 schrieb Christoph Hormann: > I tried to clarify my standpoint in my reply to Frederik. > > In addition i also think open imagery is currently severely underused in > OSM mapping due to convenient availability of not really open but free > to use in OSM imagery in Bing

Re: [OSM-talk] Crowdfunding for OpenStreetMap in Bénin : 275km² high resolution satellite imagery for Cotonou by 1-May 2016!

2016-04-25 Thread Christoph Hormann
On Monday 25 April 2016, Simon Poole wrote: > > Further I don't quite follow Christoph's argument. There is very very > little imagery used in OSM that is available on open (data) terms. As > long as the results of tracing etc are essentially unencumbered > nobody seems to have had issues with

Re: [OSM-talk] Crowdfunding for OpenStreetMap in Bénin : 275km² high resolution satellite imagery for Cotonou by 1-May 2016!

2016-04-25 Thread Christoph Hormann
On Monday 25 April 2016, Frederik Ramm wrote: > > You are not seriously suggesting that paying a proprietary data > > vendor for a likely restrictive license to use some imagery for > > mapping in OSM is in support of the idea of open data? > > I, too, am wary of this initiative because of the

Re: [OSM-talk] Crowdfunding for OpenStreetMap in Bénin : 275km² high resolution satellite imagery for Cotonou by 1-May 2016!

2016-04-25 Thread Simon Poole
I'm slightly taken back by the number of people wanting to jump in and make decisions for a local community on a topic that has little bearing outside of their region. Surely is must be their prerogative to decide how best to get imagery for their area, if at all (I do suspect that they will

Re: [OSM-talk] Crowdfunding for OpenStreetMap in Bénin : 275km² high resolution satellite imagery for Cotonou by 1-May 2016!

2016-04-25 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 04/25/2016 07:02 PM, Frederik Ramm wrote: > see for example http://wiki.openstreetmap.org and Gah, broke the link - http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Gaza#Commercial_aerial_photography Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09"

Re: [OSM-talk] Crowdfunding for OpenStreetMap in Bénin : 275km² high resolution satellite imagery for Cotonou by 1-May 2016!

2016-04-25 Thread Frederik Ramm
Christoph, On 04/25/2016 06:46 PM, Christoph Hormann wrote: > You are not seriously suggesting that paying a proprietary data vendor > for a likely restrictive license to use some imagery for mapping in OSM > is in support of the idea of open data? I, too, am wary of this initiative because of

Re: [OSM-talk] Crowdfunding for OpenStreetMap in Bénin : 275km² high resolution satellite imagery for Cotonou by 1-May 2016!

2016-04-25 Thread Christoph Hormann
On Monday 25 April 2016, nicolas chavent wrote: > This is an easy mean to make a big difference and have a huge > OpenStreetMap and opendata impact in Cotonou and Benin [...] You are not seriously suggesting that paying a proprietary data vendor for a likely restrictive license to use some

Re: [OSM-talk] Crowdfunding for OpenStreetMap in Bénin : 275km² high resolution satellite imagery for Cotonou by 1-May 2016!

2016-04-25 Thread Mikel Maron
That's awesome Kevin. Totally agree, funds can be used for mapping parties and motorcycle fuel! Let me know if Mapbox can help here too, willing to look into it. * Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron On Monday, April 25, 2016 12:01 PM, Kevin Bullock

Re: [OSM-talk] Crowdfunding for OpenStreetMap in Bénin : 275km² high resolution satellite imagery for Cotonou by 1-May 2016!

2016-04-25 Thread John Whelan
My thoughts would run along the lines of working with an existing charity to put some feet on the ground and more detail in the maps. That way the donated dollars go further, crowd sourcing takes a percentage, in Canada there is a 40% tax break on charitable giving so its stretches the

Re: [OSM-talk] Crowdfunding for OpenStreetMap in Bénin : 275km² high resolution satellite imagery for Cotonou by 1-May 2016!

2016-04-25 Thread Kevin Bullock
Hi all - I am working with OSM-Benin on behalf of DG to see if we can do something creative; I would rather see this crowdfunding be used for on the ground verification resources. Best, Kevin Bullock On 4/25/16, 9:25 AM, "althio" wrote: >John, > >You can't blame

Re: [OSM-talk] Crowdfunding for OpenStreetMap in Bénin : 275km² high resolution satellite imagery for Cotonou by 1-May 2016!

2016-04-25 Thread althio
John, You can't blame people for looking for the best imagery around Cotonou, Bénin. We are talking of the largest city in this country, 700 000+ inhabitants. I don't find it very reasonable to propose another project 1000 km away. The local mappers want to map their city, that's all. Best, -

Re: [OSM-talk] Crowdfunding for OpenStreetMap in Bénin : 275km² high resolution satellite imagery for Cotonou by 1-May 2016!

2016-04-25 Thread john whelan
There seems to be fairly reasonable free mapbox imagery of this area available. There is a lot of very reasonable African imagery available that has not yet been mapped. http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/1087 is an example. Cheerio John On 25 April 2016 at 10:17, nicolas chavent

[OSM-talk] Crowdfunding for OpenStreetMap in Bénin : 275km² high resolution satellite imagery for Cotonou by 1-May 2016!

2016-04-25 Thread nicolas chavent
Hi all, Below is the English translation of an email sent first to the hot-francophone mailing list. It focuses on the first crowdfunding 100% directed to OpenStreetMap in Western Africa. The project is run by the local OSM association (OSM Bénin) with the support of the collective Projet Espace