Re: [OSM-talk] Import populated places from vmap0

2009-01-22 Thread Upliner Mikhalych
2009/1/21 22:53 Russ Nelson:: Don't sweat the small stuff like villages and hamlets. Make the map better, and as you do, sooner or later, somebody who came from that village will want it on the map, and will correct it. However for many regions of Russia even small towns does matter. If they

Re: [OSM-talk] Import populated places from vmap0

2009-01-22 Thread Upliner Mikhalych
2009/1/22 6:47 D Tucny wrote: GNS however is a valid source... http://earth-info.nga.mil/gns/html/index.html Thank you. This datasource will be useful anyway. I've accidentally missed it on Potential Datasources page. I'm just looking at mapping the correct feature types and looking at the

Re: [OSM-talk] Import populated places from vmap0

2009-01-22 Thread maning sambale
a bit of caveat when using gns for openstreetmap http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ph/2009-January/000363.html In some areas, gns is hugely inaccurate but still worth it to add to osm. On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 5:09 PM, Upliner Mikhalych upli...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/1/22 6:47 D

Re: [OSM-talk] Import populated places from vmap0

2009-01-22 Thread James Stewart
I spend quite some time working on central asia republics - especially the Fergana Valley (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Wiki_Project_Fergana_Valley ) which is in Uzbekistan, with parts of Tajikstan and Kyrgystan. I could not find any really reliable source - most places have at least

Re: [OSM-talk] Import populated places from vmap0

2009-01-22 Thread Russ Nelson
Isn't that the function of openstreetbugs? Perhaps if you don't know the size of a town, it should be marked there as Please correct the place tag, currently set to village. On Jan 22, 2009, at 3:33 AM, Upliner Mikhalych wrote: 2009/1/21 22:53 Russ Nelson:: Don't sweat the small stuff

Re: [OSM-talk] Import populated places from vmap0

2009-01-22 Thread Andy Allan
On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 3:56 PM, Russ Nelson r...@cloudmade.com wrote: Isn't that the function of openstreetbugs? Perhaps if you don't know the size of a town, it should be marked there as Please correct the place tag, currently set to village. OpenStreetBugs isn't fully integrated with all

Re: [OSM-talk] Import populated places from vmap0

2009-01-22 Thread OJ W
Wikipedia sometimes helps when trying to categorise stuff: https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Category:Capitals_of_republics_of_Russia https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/List_of_cities_and_towns_in_Russia_by_population The individual articles also normally start with x

Re: [OSM-talk] Import populated places from vmap0

2009-01-21 Thread Russ Nelson
On Jan 21, 2009, at 9:21 AM, Upliner Mikhalych wrote: So how imported points should be tagged? It is desirable that place names will be rendered in Mapnik. Have you any ideas? Excellent idea, Upliner! Well done. Perhaps you can make a somewhat arbitrary distinction based on population?

Re: [OSM-talk] Import populated places from vmap0

2009-01-21 Thread Upliner Mikhalych
2009/1/21 20:01 Russ Nelson wrote: Surely there is a population database for towns in Russia. Of course there it is easy to find databases for bigger cities. Full list of Russian cities with population more than 100 000 is already in OSM wiki. Things are more difficult with small towns and

Re: [OSM-talk] Import populated places from vmap0

2009-01-21 Thread Upliner Mikhalych
2009/1/21 20:48 Hakan Tandogan wrote: Maybe you could do a comparision to geonames.org, and add only places that have a similiar spelling in their russian name? Geonames is rejected datasource for OSM according to wiki. So I'm not sure that it is good idea to use their data for import. Best

Re: [OSM-talk] Import populated places from vmap0

2009-01-21 Thread Russ Nelson
On Jan 21, 2009, at 2:29 PM, Upliner Mikhalych wrote: I have already done test imports with points tagged as villages and changed some of them to towns. It will be good to find a better solution. Perfection is not a possibility and shouldn't be the goal. Usefulness is definitely the

Re: [OSM-talk] Import populated places from vmap0

2009-01-21 Thread D Tucny
2009/1/22 Upliner Mikhalych upli...@gmail.com 2009/1/21 20:48 Hakan Tandogan wrote: Maybe you could do a comparision to geonames.org, and add only places that have a similiar spelling in their russian name? Geonames is rejected datasource for OSM according to wiki. So I'm not sure that it