Re: [OSM-talk] Is anyone making public transport routing maps basedon OpenStreetMap data?

2008-12-19 Thread Simon Ward
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 04:29:29PM +, Andy Allan wrote: be running, which is in the future and the timetable changed this week[1]. […] [1] hypothetically, but actually did quite recently for the UK rail network, which is a useful illustration. If you’re lucky they’ll give you advanced

Re: [OSM-talk] Is anyone making public transport routing maps basedon OpenStreetMap data?

2008-12-19 Thread Nick Whitelegg
You can't crowdsource a timetable. You can't crowdsource the future without objective evidence. You can, however, crowdsource what has happened in the past, and use it to make list of when the trains usually used to run. But I have absolutely no interest in an application that says trains usually

Re: [OSM-talk] Is anyone making public transport routing maps basedon OpenStreetMap data?

2008-12-18 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Frederik Ramm wrote: Soundy overly complex compared to just using pdftotext and then parsing the resulting ASCII text, unless of course there's OCR involved which would rule out this approach. Doesn't preserve the layout, in particular the columns, well enough. The UK rail timetable PDF is

Re: [OSM-talk] Is anyone making public transport routing maps basedon OpenStreetMap data?

2008-12-18 Thread Nick Whitelegg
I think that would be an excellent idea, however don't assume transit authorities will always give you the data because they often won't for various reasons. There is not however a problem as far as I know in people collecting their own timetable information from printed material and entering

Re: [OSM-talk] Is anyone making public transport routing maps basedon OpenStreetMap data?

2008-12-18 Thread Peter Miller
On 18 Dec 2008, at 13:46, Nick Whitelegg wrote: I think that would be an excellent idea, however don't assume transit authorities will always give you the data because they often won't for various reasons. There is not however a problem as far as I know in people collecting their own

Re: [OSM-talk] Is anyone making public transport routing maps basedon OpenStreetMap data?

2008-12-18 Thread Andy Allan
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 1:46 PM, Nick Whitelegg nick.whitel...@solent.ac.uk wrote: I think that would be an excellent idea, however don't assume transit authorities will always give you the data because they often won't for various reasons. There is not however a problem as far as I know in people

Re: [OSM-talk] Is anyone making public transport routing maps basedon OpenStreetMap data?

2008-12-18 Thread Joe Hughes
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 6:04 AM, Peter Miller peter.mil...@itoworld.com wrote: I was wondering however, if any of the authorities in gtfs-data- exchange would mind their data about the positioning of bus stops to be imported into OSM. Might be worth asking them at some point. The current bus

Re: [OSM-talk] Is anyone making public transport routing maps basedon OpenStreetMap data?

2008-12-17 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Peter Miller wrote: I think that would be an excellent idea, however don't assume transit authorities will always give you the data because they often won't for various reasons. One of the wonderful things about ODbL is the concept of a collective work as applied to separate databases.

Re: [OSM-talk] Is anyone making public transport routing maps basedon OpenStreetMap data?

2008-12-17 Thread Stefan Monnier
Not that I'm planning to screenscrape the PDF timetable or anything. Though I imagine that, if I were, I'd use CAM::PDF to read the file, write my own PDF renderer, then parse the columns and put the result in a MySQL database. Purely hypothetically. Would you happen to have a hypothetically

Re: [OSM-talk] Is anyone making public transport routing maps basedon OpenStreetMap data?

2008-12-17 Thread Peter Miller
On 17 Dec 2008, at 14:22, Nick Whitelegg wrote: I'm interested in completely mapping my city bus network, it would be great if there was some online routing application that I could go to that could plan my routes. Of course I'd have to provide it with sufficient survey information to do

Re: [OSM-talk] Is anyone making public transport routing maps basedon OpenStreetMap data?

2008-12-17 Thread Joe Hughes
On 17 Dec 2008, at 7:05, Peter Miller wrote: I wonder if there is scope for an OpenTimetable.org system or similar, which is an integrated - and open - bus/train timetable database. Transport companies could be invited to supply data to this, and then it could be made available to anyone.