Hey guys
Moderation is not just something I have the burden of doing on the talk list.
It's the way we should think about our posts to this lists ... be moderate.
Here's a good guide. Are you stressed, feeling attacked, frustrated by
something you have just read on talk@? Are your thoughts
Hi y'all
I'm just tuning into the discussions over the past few days. Let me ask,
please, before you post again, please review the etiquette guidelines.
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Etiquette
No matter what our disagreements and concerns, everyone here wants the same
thing, a great
All
In case you didn't see it the first time, this and related threads are
moderated. Do not respond further to these threads, or you will be individually
moderated.
Thanks
Mikel Moderators
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Hello
With absolute clarity
* legal-talk@ is the place for discussion of license details. That does include
specific questions on application of the license, remapping, OSMF policy, etc.
Any further posts on legal subjects on talk@ will result in moderation.
* talk@ is being actively
On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 8:06 PM, Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com wrote:
Have you not noticed how your posts are becoming repetitious?
If by that you mean, Thanks Steve for your insights on moderation, I
think you have now clearly communicated your point of view, then,
good, I'll stop.
If it was
On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 5:42 PM, Chris Browet c...@semperpax.com wrote:
You realize tightly moderate and issues of all nature are somewhat
contradictory, do you?
Not at all. Personal attacks, repetition, off-topic remarks,
spamminess, me-tooism - none of this comes under issues of all
natures.
On 25/08/2010 07:45, Steve Bennett wrote:
Not at all. Personal attacks, repetition, off-topic remarks,
spamminess, me-tooism - none of this comes under issues of all
natures. Picture the town hall meeting style that has become
popular in politics. Questions on almost any topic are allowed, but
On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 05:21, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 7:52 PM, Chris Browet c...@semperpax.com wrote:
But every opinions should have a place to voice themselves, shouldn't
they?
No. Not all opinions are helpful. And certainly, sheer volume of
talk@ is not the place for acrimonious posts about the license like this
http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2010-August/053323.html
Both sides have had their say in the Let's prepare to Fork OSM to a CCBYSA
2.0continuation thread.
Please, when responding to that thread now
On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 7:52 PM, Chris Browet c...@semperpax.com wrote:
But every opinions should have a place to voice themselves, shouldn't they?
No. Not all opinions are helpful. And certainly, sheer volume of
opinions is unhelpful.
If Talk becomes moderated/censured, where would that be?
A well-moderated list can be a valuable forum for achieving consensus,
rather than just a soapbox for every opinion to be voiced.
But every opinions should have a place to voice themselves, shouldn't they?
If Talk becomes moderated/censured, where would that be?
Wouldn't it better to create
On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 11:52:04AM +0200, Chris Browet wrote:
If Talk becomes moderated/censured, where would that be?
Wouldn't it better to create specific, on-topic moderated lists (and
moderate the existing ones) rather than moderating Talk, whose topic is
not obvious?
Then people who
Most of the topic‐focused lists are sane. I think the point is, legal
discussion is swamping the talk list, and there are already lists
specifically for legal discussion and therefore better suited to the
topic.
Is this moderating stuff all about the license change?
If so, and I know
Simon
The license change is the biggest single issue facing OSM at this time.
There are frequently complaints that people have not been aware that it was
happening. Shunting it off to legal-talk@ could be construed as a way of
helping the process to happen by stealth and attrition.
For the
Am 20.08.2010 12:36, schrieb Chris Browet:
Do you honestly think the Nearmap announcement should have been posted
to Legal, with only a fraction of OSM'ers aware? I don't think so.
Not the announcement but the discussion, I think.
Peter
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On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 12:36:18PM +0200, Chris Browet wrote:
Is this moderating stuff all about the license change?
No, that’s just the current example.
If so, and I know others agree, it should certainly NOT be moderated on
Talk.
I disagree. (Although, seeing as there is call for an
On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 12:01:02PM +0100, 80n wrote:
The license change is the biggest single issue facing OSM at this time.
There are frequently complaints that people have not been aware that it was
happening. Shunting it off to legal-talk@ could be construed as a way of
helping the process
This thread should be moved to legal. I saw the words ODbL and
Contributor Terms :-)
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On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 10:28 PM, Ed Avis e...@waniasset.com wrote:
We haven't had any problems before the controversy over licences, and I
expect
that once these troubles are resolved one way or another, there won't be
further
eruptions. So I'd suggest not setting up any elaborate
On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 7:28 AM, Ed Avis e...@waniasset.com wrote:
We haven't had any problems before the controversy over licences, and I expect
that once these troubles are resolved one way or another, there won't be
further
eruptions. So I'd suggest not setting up any elaborate moderation
The list has become sane again, and I've not had to use any Evil Powers.
But, is this what you want going forward?
My own inclination is that list moderators are elected per list for, say, a one
year period. But I suspect that finding people who want to be a moderator might
be hard.
Thoughts?
We haven't had any problems before the controversy over licences, and I expect
that once these troubles are resolved one way or another, there won't be further
eruptions. So I'd suggest not setting up any elaborate moderation mechanism
until it is proved to be necessary.
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Ed Avis
On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 2:34 AM, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote:
The list has become sane again, and I've not had to use any Evil Powers.
But, is this what you want going forward?
My own inclination is that list moderators are elected per list for, say, a
one year period. But I suspect
On 12/11/2009, at 14.49, Peter Körner wrote:
If you need anything other than this to decide of further proceedings,
please just ask.
Could this be the case of someone browsing around with Potlach in edit
mode?
Cheers,
Morten
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