Re: [OSM-talk] Name finder and home page search working again

2008-03-27 Thread Stefan Baebler
On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 12:55 AM, David Earl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 26/03/2008 19:31, OJ W wrote: Is it doing anything with the multilingual names in OSM (name:de=... and similar)? Yes, that should have been on my list in the previous message. This always was included. e.g. try

Re: [OSM-talk] Name finder and home page search working again

2008-03-27 Thread Sebastian Spaeth
David Earl wrote: It's a hard call. I did do a kind of weighting in the where am I feature to give a reasonable spread of places of different kinds - though again Tom hasn't implemented this in quite the same way on the home page. I agree that it's a hard call (and trade-off). Also, I

Re: [OSM-talk] Name finder and home page search working again

2008-03-27 Thread David Earl
On 27/03/2008 09:07, Stefan Baebler wrote: On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 12:55 AM, David Earl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 26/03/2008 19:31, OJ W wrote: Is it doing anything with the multilingual names in OSM (name:de=... and similar)? Yes, that should have been on my list in the previous

Re: [OSM-talk] Name finder and home page search working again

2008-03-27 Thread David Earl
On 27/03/2008 10:56, Sebastian Spaeth wrote: I wonder whether some context can be drawn in from whether there is a administrative city boundary or residential landuse area surrounding a street. But this would of course increase the parsing complexity a lot, I guess. It's a whole different

Re: [OSM-talk] Name finder and home page search working again

2008-03-27 Thread Karl Newman
I have in mind a piece of work I'm loosely calling finding the urban envelope which would analyse areas based on highway=residential and abutters, where present, and other relevant clues, to heuristically determine contiguous settlements. Hee. That's a nice idea, but I fear it would call

Re: [OSM-talk] Name finder and home page search working again

2008-03-27 Thread Gervase Markham
David Earl wrote: Suggestions for addressing this welcome - incrementally returning results is one possibility I guess. You can qualify it ..., UK (provided the is_in is present - which is almost never is for US places), but that's non-obvious. I strongly suspect Google Maps either only

Re: [OSM-talk] Name finder and home page search working again

2008-03-26 Thread 80n
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 3:37 AM, Lars Aronsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sven Grüner wrote: That brought up another question to my mind, which isn't related to the name finder in particular: Is there any agreement on how to tag abreviated place names? When there's the 'Volkswagen plant'

Re: [OSM-talk] Name finder and home page search working again

2008-03-26 Thread Andy Robinson
On 26/03/2008, Lars Aronsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sven Grüner wrote: That brought up another question to my mind, which isn't related to the name finder in particular: Is there any agreement on how to tag abreviated place names? When there's the 'Volkswagen plant' people would

Re: [OSM-talk] Name finder and home page search working again

2008-03-26 Thread David Earl
On 25/03/2008 21:18, David Earl wrote: On 25/03/2008 21:00, David Earl wrote: On 25/03/2008 20:53, Thomas Wood wrote: The namefinder still seems to fail with: St Paul's Cathedral (apostrophe as copied pasted from the British Museum blog post) Oh perversity! They've put a rsquo on their web

Re: [OSM-talk] Name finder and home page search working again

2008-03-26 Thread David Earl
On 26/03/2008 01:43, Sven Grüner wrote: Colin Marquardt schrieb: Since we have people's attention: please everybody extend http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Name_finder:Abbreviations That brought up another question to my mind, which isn't related to the name finder in particular: Is

Re: [OSM-talk] Name finder and home page search working again

2008-03-26 Thread Abigail Brady
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 11:35 AM, David Earl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It uses name, then place_name (but only when name is not given), then ref, iata, icao, old_name, and loc_name as if these were in square brackets after the name as described above. Hence name=Archway Road; ref=A5;

Re: [OSM-talk] Name finder and home page search working again

2008-03-26 Thread David Earl
On 26/03/2008 15:33, David Earl wrote: In your case, Zürichstrasse is apparently closer to Wallisellen than Dübendorf, so I'm afraid that's the point of reference you get in the expanded context. Name finder is based entirely on proximity; I'd need a reliable set of boundary information

Re: [OSM-talk] Name finder and home page search working again

2008-03-26 Thread OJ W
Is it doing anything with the multilingual names in OSM (name:de=... and similar)? http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Key:name On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 11:35 AM, David Earl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 26/03/2008 01:43, Sven Grüner wrote: What about 'short_name', just to make that *_name

Re: [OSM-talk] Name finder and home page search working again

2008-03-26 Thread David Earl
On 26/03/2008 19:31, OJ W wrote: Is it doing anything with the multilingual names in OSM (name:de=... and similar)? Yes, that should have been on my list in the previous message. This always was included. e.g. try searching for Cologne and Köln (or Koln) David

[OSM-talk] Name finder and home page search working again

2008-03-25 Thread David Earl
I'm pleased to say that after a major overhaul of the name finder to make it possible to update incrementally, and also a move to a different server (many thanks to Tom for helping set this up), the Name Finder and home page search box are now working again with a bang up to date index. The Name

Re: [OSM-talk] Name finder and home page search working again

2008-03-25 Thread Thomas Wood
On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 7:41 PM, David Earl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip - All combinations of apostrophe s, singular and plural should now work (previously it worked if it was mapped with 's and searched without, but not vice-versa). - We now get 100% on the British Museum Test for

Re: [OSM-talk] Name finder and home page search working again

2008-03-25 Thread David Earl
On 25/03/2008 20:53, Thomas Wood wrote: The namefinder still seems to fail with: St Paul's Cathedral (apostrophe as copied pasted from the British Museum blog post) Odd - it worked yesterday when I tried it. I'll investigate. I can't get through at all at the moment - presumably everyone is

Re: [OSM-talk] Name finder and home page search working again

2008-03-25 Thread David Earl
On 25/03/2008 21:00, David Earl wrote: On 25/03/2008 20:53, Thomas Wood wrote: The namefinder still seems to fail with: St Paul's Cathedral (apostrophe as copied pasted from the British Museum blog post) Odd - it worked yesterday when I tried it. I'll investigate. I can't get through at

Re: [OSM-talk] Name finder and home page search working again

2008-03-25 Thread Colin Marquardt
David Earl [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm pleased to say that after a major overhaul of the name finder to make it possible to update incrementally, and also a move to a different server (many thanks to Tom for helping set this up), the Name Finder and home page search box are now working

Re: [OSM-talk] Name finder and home page search working again

2008-03-25 Thread Lars Aronsson
Sven Grüner wrote: That brought up another question to my mind, which isn't related to the name finder in particular: Is there any agreement on how to tag abreviated place names? When there's the 'Volkswagen plant' people would also search for 'VW plant'. Obviously no application like